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Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Nobody: 5:51pm On Dec 08, 2015
RichDad1:
Spot on bro. They are like volcano waiting to be activated.
You must be retarded...
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Eluwilussit(m): 5:52pm On Dec 08, 2015
akike:
OMG!

That is not the root of this issue! It started way before 2001!

Rwanda genocide too, you have to thanks the West for that

What about Congo? Thank the West for that too
The West ain't no saints. They ain't no Santa either. They have interests which they will protect at all cost.

If the Boko issue is not taken care of by Nigeria, and the West steps in, so you think they will be doing it for free? The rest of us can't seem to be able to take care of ourselves, so someone has to do it for us and at a cost.

Talking about the origin, we can go as far back as we like or choose a recent date, which most of us can relate to. 2001 may even be too far back to some NL members cheesy.

If you have any justification for the terrorism that is being carried out by these Islamists, please do tell me. We have pretended enough and long. I don't think that if a religious war breaks out today, that Muslims can win it. Let them embrace peace. The world isn't a fair place, but why shoot your colleagues and people who have allowed you live a better life among them?

Trump has a point. Biased? Yes, but a legit point nonetheless.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by whatisthetruth: 5:53pm On Dec 08, 2015
Laid2001:
(CNN)—During his presidency, President Barack Obama has had to deliver statements on gun violence 15 times.

After a gunman opened fire at Oregon's Umpqua Community College, killing nine people and injuring seven, a visibly upset Obama said the shootings were becoming all too routine.

The gunman also died, although it's unclear whether he was shot by police or committed suicide.

"The reporting is routine," Obama said. "My response here at this podium ends up being routine, the conversation in the aftermath of it. We've become numb to this."

He then asked news organizations to tally up the number of Americans killed through terrorist attacks in the last decade and compare it with the number of Americans who have died in gun violence.







Oregon governor: Now is not the time to talk about gun control



Using numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we found that from 2001 to 2013, 406,496 people died by firearms on U.S. soil. (2013 is the most recent year CDC data for deaths by firearms is available.) This data covered all manners of death, including homicide, accident and suicide.

According to the U.S. State Department, the number of U.S. citizens killed overseas as a result of incidents of terrorism from 2001 to 2013 was 350.

In addition, we compiled all terrorism incidents inside the U.S. and found that between 2001 and 2013, there were 3,030 people killed in domestic acts of terrorism.* This brings the total to 3,380

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/oregon-shooting-terrorism-gun-violence/
So the U.S now wants to take guns away from it's citizens? I feel that would be the end to the America that we know.

A classic case of deflection in the islamic community.

As a brilliant debater once said, there are 3 phases of islam:

PHASE 1: WHEN THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY
-Here they preach, to each person their religion as their prophet said. They claim to be peaceful and fully abide by the laws of the land in which they are in.

PHASE 2: WHEN THEY HAVE A SIZABLE POPULATION
-Here they begin to agitate for their rights as enshrined not in the laws of the land, but in islamic law. Agitations are made for things like the sharia law, child marraiges and so on.

PHASE 3: WHEN THEY ARE IN THE MAJORITY
-Here, a full islamic state is declared and the non believers become oppressed. Non believers are required to pay a tax known as the jizya for them to be able to reside in an islamic state. Other forms of worship are prohibited, with Allah being the true god and controlling every aspect of life in the society.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by MENELIK1: 5:54pm On Dec 08, 2015
philclem:
........oya tell me how many terrorist attack recently carried out by non-muslimhuh
The killings of black American tees by white policemen, Kid murderers in elementary schools across America and Europe. Bros them plenty well well
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Nobody: 5:57pm On Dec 08, 2015
daretodiffer:
But he is not going tosad
Yes he is going to. Just one more attack on american soft
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by iykebest1(m): 6:00pm On Dec 08, 2015
onac16:
he will lose. the God the Muslims serve will not let him win.


hit like if you agree
the muslims don't have God. They have Allah
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by whatisthetruth: 6:03pm On Dec 08, 2015
yahayya1a:
Yeah take the advice from your fellow religious partner... Every good muslim isn't even capable of hurting your nail Talkless of detonating bombs, so if what you said about you being uncovering facts then i believe you'll know that those terrorist are only hiding behind the islamic flag and destroying it's name.

They ARE NOT muslims...
Yes they are muslims!

I can not state this clearly enough.

The debate here is not if a muslim is inherently good or bad, but rather, if islam is good or bad.

Every human is guided by conscience and a sense of morality, be they muslims, christians, atheists and so on. This innate feeling is what causes most people to search for a creator and in some cases they do find him.

However, what you find in the islamic community is that the more one goes in search of this creator, the more devout he becomes, the more radical his views also become. That radical nature of islam, when one draws ever so closer to allah, is one that is of great concern to those outside this faith.

For instance, if we went to a majorly muslim territory in the north of nigeria, say in front of a mosque and then proceeded to burn a quran, I can assure you that you will be greeted with physical violence from the most devout muslims.

On the flip side, if you went outside a church and started burning a bible, I stand to believe that most of the devout Christians won't lay a single hand on you.

So you see, the problems aren't in the humans themselves per say, who are born with this innate conscience. It is the fault of the ideology that further molds this conscience into rationalizing evil as good and that is what islam does. The more devout a muslim becomes to islam, the more the muslim believes allah, the more the muslim reads the quran and practices it, the more radical that muslim gets.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by DjAduba(m): 6:05pm On Dec 08, 2015
true2god:
Saudi arabia does not issue visa to anybody whose names are Joseph, Peter, David, elizabeth, Emmanuel, Benjamin, Timothy, and other christian related names, unless you are a diplomat or a white oil worker (like an expatriate).

So if the US stop issuing visas to people whose names are mohammed, aisha, abdulkareem, usman, muttalib, zainab, and other islamic\arab names, it is ok. Security first.
So what! Is US heaven.... Rrrrrrubbish
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:12pm On Dec 08, 2015
Rossikk:
Many christian armed robbers attend church and even patronise 'prayer warriors' prior to their operations. And 99% of armed robbers are christians.
So you mean 90% of armed robbers are Christians? Wow.... Perhaps you think you are smart..



Smh
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by MENELIK1: 6:13pm On Dec 08, 2015
gimakon:
He even speaks calmly... unlike those nairaland muslims we see in religion section. Seems he's a good person afterall.

Well, your islamic brothers brought bad name. Not just to Us, but the entire world. You may be peaceful, and calm and o honest, but islam has really brought a bad mark and it's affecting ties and businesses as we speak today.

God bless u for your warm reception, I must say I'm impressed, coming from a muslim.

I am really.
But the Rwandan genocide occurred between two mainly xtian groups, is that what xtianity teaches?
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by RichDad1(m): 6:15pm On Dec 08, 2015
yahayya1a:
You must be retarded...
Cos I don't buy into you blood sucking ideaology? Kikikiki grin
You're a potential Osama.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by cutekhalifa(m): 6:21pm On Dec 08, 2015
Good move.... If you kill a muslim u have killed a terrorist if u killed a terrorist you have killed a muslim... Islam is the problem of dis world... I blame Abrahim for his disobedient , he for allow ismael the father of all terrorist to die in desert....

Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:24pm On Dec 08, 2015
Eluwilussit:
The West ain't no saints. They ain't no Santa either. They have interests which they will protect at all cost.

If the Boko issue is not taken care of by Nigeria, and the West steps in, so you think they will be doing it for free? The rest of us can't seem to be able to take care of ourselves, so someone has to do it for us and at a cost.

Talking about the origin, we can go as far back as we like or choose a recent date, which most of us can relate to. 2001 may even be too far back to some NL members cheesy.

If you have any justification for the terrorism that is being carried out by these Islamists, please do tell me. We have pretended enough and long. I don't think that if a religious war breaks out today, that Muslims can win it. Let them embrace peace. The world isn't a fair place, but why shoot your colleagues and people who have allowed you live a better life among them?

Trump has a point. Biased? Yes, but a legit point nonetheless.
Please

I am.not going to do your research for you

If you are so ignorant to believe that this stuff started in 2001. You must be really pathetic.

Besides who trained them sef?

Who gave them the weapons?

Do not quote me gain until you make use of theb left in your phone.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by akilo1: 6:24pm On Dec 08, 2015
Islam should ban asap
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:25pm On Dec 08, 2015
cutekhalifa:
Good move.... If you kill a muslim u have killed a terrorist if u killed a terrorist you have killed a muslim... Islam is the problem of dis world... I blame Abrahim for his disobedient , he for allow ismael the father of all terrorist to die in desert....
Yes, blame him all you like

Islam is not going anywherecheesy
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:26pm On Dec 08, 2015
falopey:
sit don there. all Muslims are potential terrorists like a time bomb waiting for an appropriate time to explode. all radical Muslims of today were once innocent Muslims of yesterday like that friend of your s.
Including me

I cannot wait to bomb you and your family to smithereenscheesy

What about that for being a potential terrorists?
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Rossikk(m): 6:26pm On Dec 08, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
So you mean 90% of armed robbers are Christians? Wow.... Perhaps you think you are smart..



Smh
99%.

Quite possibly 100%.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Nobody: 6:27pm On Dec 08, 2015
MENELIK1:
But the Rwandan genocide occurred between two mainly xtian groups, is that what xtianity teaches?
No. But islam is far worse.
Personally I don't like the persecution, but religion by compulsion should be looked into. Islam should be looked into
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:27pm On Dec 08, 2015
RichDad1:
Spot on bro. They are like volcano waiting to be activated.
We will soon come for your head

I will be the one to cut it off

How satisfying it would betongue
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Nobody: 6:28pm On Dec 08, 2015
WaffenSS:
I wont lie to you, sometimes i get irrational and talk crazy, we all do. But i'm still offended by your remark that "Islam has really brought a bad mark". The whole point of my exchange with you is to dispel that notion. What you ought to have said is " Some crazy people use islam as a basis to act out their lunacy".

Like i told you, there are over 2 billion muslims practicing islam all over the world. Less than 0.1% are terrorists, or sympathetic to terrorism.

If Islam wqas the problem, and given how strongly we feel about our faith, almost the entire 2.5 billion of us would've since blown ourselves up.
I agree with you to some extent. Ok am sorry
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:28pm On Dec 08, 2015
Rossikk:
99%.

Quite possibly 100%.
Hahahaahahahahaaha... See as you de increase am. U no de fear God?
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:29pm On Dec 08, 2015
gimakon:
He even speaks calmly... unlike those nairaland muslims we see in religion section. Seems he's a good person afterall.

Well, your islamic brothers brought bad name. Not just to Us, but the entire world. You may be peaceful, and calm and o honest, but islam has really brought a bad mark and it's affecting ties and businesses as we speak today.

God bless u for your warm reception, I must say I'm impressed, coming from a muslim.

I am really.
This is an insult!

There are many Muslims here who are very respectful and cautious

I was once until I realised that you guys are sick. You need a sicko to cure you.

It is really a shame though if you live in Nigeiria and you believe that Muslims are like what you have heard unless of course you are from the SS or SE. You are the most clueless about Islam
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:30pm On Dec 08, 2015
DanielPam:
In their mind now, they're being persecuted for their faith. The truth is you are being persecuted because of the trouble your believe system is producing. If you can practice your religion in peace or preach it peacefully like the christians, buddhist, jews, hindus etc, u won't be having these troubles. Infact people will vehemently fight against any anti-islam propaganda. But u Muslims keep saying islam is a religion of peace when all u do is to kill and bomb. Some of you may claim that it is just islam extremists that kill. I've got one question for u. How often do u hear of extremists in judaism or buddhism attack a place? There are indeed good Muslims. I have 2 great lecturers that were good but the bad ones among you Muslims are serious nightmares.
We are the victims o

We are not going to apologise

And we are not going anywhere

And we are coming to America
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Rossikk(m): 6:30pm On Dec 08, 2015
whatisthetruth:
Yes they are muslims!

I can not state this clearly enough.

The debate here is not if a muslim is inherently good or bad, but rather, if islam is good or bad.

Every human is guided by conscience and a sense of morality, be they muslims, christians, atheists and so on. This innate feeling is what causes most people to search for a creator and in some cases they do find him.

However, what you find in the islamic community is that the more one goes in search of this creator, the more devout he becomes, the more radical his views also become. That radical nature of islam, when one draws ever so closer to allah, is one that is of great concern to those outside this faith.

For instance, if we went to a majorly muslim territory in the north of nigeria, say in front of a mosque and then proceeded to burn a quran, I can assure you that you will be greeted with physical violence from the most devout muslims.

On the flip side, if you went outside a church and started burning a bible, I stand to believe that most of the devout Christians won't lay a single hand on you.

So you see, the problems aren't in the humans themselves per say, who are born with this innate conscience. It is the fault of the ideology that further molds this conscience into rationalizing evil as good and that is what islam does. The more devout a muslim becomes to islam, the more the muslim believes allah, the more the muslim reads the quran and practices it, the more radical that muslim gets.
How do you know christians won't attack you if you burn bibles in front of their church? Don't say that until you try it.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:31pm On Dec 08, 2015
sparkwil:
You're on point bro
The problem has always been political correctness by those foolish liberals

Radical islam is a cancer that must be cured by every means
Radical Islam is not going anywheregrin
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Rossikk(m): 6:32pm On Dec 08, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Hahahaahahahahaaha... See as you de increase am. U no de fear God?
I've never seen an armed robber that's a muslim. Have you? All armed robbers in Nigeria are christians. I rarely make such sweeping statements, but on this one, I'm sure.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:32pm On Dec 08, 2015
babestella:
Very good, they all have terrorist tendencies, very wicked and unreasonable set of religious people.

They should even ban the president and all his muslim goons from travelling to the US, muslims are a serious threat to the world. If possible, they should all be exported to Mars so we could have some peace on this planet. Haba.
They are not going to ban Muslims

And Islam is not going anywhere

Pele!
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:33pm On Dec 08, 2015
Millerz:
daretodiffer

just so you know,I didn't read your reply. reason being that nothing sensible can come from you. quote me when you grow a brain wink.
I didn't read most of my mentions too

I ignored most of them then I saw this while I was scrolling

You are hilariouscheesy
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by sparkwil(m): 6:36pm On Dec 08, 2015
doveda:
Radical Islam is not going anywheregrin
grin grin grin
You're such a child
Oya sit down and learn...
Over 80% of the victims of radical Islamists including boko haram are Muslims
You see... Who should be more concerned?
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by Autino(m): 6:37pm On Dec 08, 2015
osemoses1234:
Nah Dem sabi make I go sleep jare
No be dem sapy Muslims have become an epidemic all over the world so thE guyman is apsolutely right
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by ZiggyMr(m): 6:42pm On Dec 08, 2015
Now Muslims ll be calling for his head, and this guy is just so on point. You don't even knw which one of them can blow u up, they are all the same. My muslim friends it's not compulsory you guys go to the U.S, try Saudi, Iran, Iraq or even Egypt.
Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump by doveda: 6:44pm On Dec 08, 2015
sparkwil:
grin grin grin
You're such a child
Oya sit down and learn...
Over 80% of the victims of radical Islamists including boko haram are Muslims
You see... Who should be more concerned?
I am a child o

But I know that radical Islam is not going anywhere
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