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Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 10:32pm On Dec 11, 2015
[size=13pt]TonyeBarcanista

sorry for coming in late...

but, the thing surprise me too, I am not in support of the Niger Delta joining Biafra, but the Igbos have every Universal and Constituitional right to demand for their freedom of expression and association..

I did not expect a Liberal minded person like Seun to fall for cheep gimmicks that his yoruba and fulani politicians spread in the Parliament..

I believe also that there is outside interference maybe DSS warning..
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Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by SonOfEl(m): 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2015
yapapa:
kill yourself.
Obviously you have nothing meaningful to post....loser
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ishiamu(m): 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
hw you take know? You don see am before?
Iz obvious ni.. I dnt need see b4 I comfirm... look well
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by solash:
TonyeBarcanista:
Let me first apologise for posting this on this section. This is because I have been restricted from posting on politics section due to ban given to me by one of the moderators in that section.

The purpose of this thread is to call the attention of the Founder of Nairaland, Mr Seun Osewa over his decision to 'ban' the promotion of Biafran agitation on Nairaland.com. As most of us know, Rule 9 has been amended by the owner to reflect on the ban. Quoting the rule...


Though I am neither an Igboman nor one of the promoters of Biafra, I couldn't help but express displeasure in the rule because it violates Article 2 of United Nations Resolution on Self Determination (1960), Sections 35, 39 and 42 of the Constitution of Nigeria and also is in conflict with the principle of Social justice.

For avoidance of doubt, article 2 of the UN Resolution on Self-Determination states that...

All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

It clearly states that people should FREELY determine their status and freely pursue it.
The decision of Mr Seun has contravened this paragraph and it is not something we should celebrate.

Furthermore, Nigeria Constitution guarantee some rights to every citizen and group. Some of which include;

1. Right to personal liberty (Section 35): Every person is entitled to personal liberty.

2. Right to freedom of Expression (Section 39): Right to freedom of expression and the press is very fundamental to the sustenance of democracy

3. Right to freedom from discrimination (Section 42): No citizen of Nigeria shall be discriminated against on the basis of his community, ethnic group, place of origin, sex, religion or political opinion

All the aforementioned rights have been taken away by the amended rule 9 of Nairaland.com. Additionally, the decision of Mr Seun also contravenes the principle of social justice. For avoidance of doubt, Social justice principle is of the view that everyone deserves equal economic, political and social rights and opportunities.

While I have been at the receiving end of some pro-Biafran promoters in terms of insults and abuse, it won't make me to support what I know is against their fundamental right as Nigerians and citizens of the world.

It will be more appropriate for the moderators to take down content by agitators of Biafra that promotes hate, violence and support arson. However, they deserve the right to be expressive. Those of us that believe in Nigeria will not hesitate to engage promoters of Biafra movement intellectually when opportuned.

Yes, we love promoters of Biafrans and some people don't want the Igbo nation or any other nation to secede but it is inappropriate to shut their voices. We have to uphold the tenet of democracy in promoting our unity.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria.
[A man once said "Sometimes in life you feel you have become a lord: superstar and have finally arrived, but a single careless mistake is just enough to cause your downfall"

I have a feeling that this singular action will hunt SEUN if not now maybe in the future.

One day people will remind him that he took the side of suppression and oppression of freedom of speech because of brown envelope.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Rapoo(m): 10:44pm On Dec 11, 2015
yhemsy62:
Even though I'm a Yorubas I also don't accept dat Rule#9
remain blessed my brother
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ribbit: 10:46pm On Dec 11, 2015
Adebowaletunji:
AM A YORUBA GAL AND I MUST SAY THAT THIS UR COMMENT IS NOT IN PLACE..THIS IS THE SAME THINGS WE ACCUSED THE IGBOS OF DOING AND YET DOING IT....IT IS NOT RIGHT!! YES IT IS NOT RIGHT AND I WONT JOIN THE REST OF IRRATIONAL YORUBAS TO MAKE MOCKERY OF COMMON SENSE..

IN UNITY OF NIGERIA I STAND BUT LIKE PROF WOLE SOYINKA I ALSO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE OF BIAFRA SHOULD BE LISTENED TO AND NOT SUBDUED..

WE CANT SIMPLY KILL THEIR IDEOLOGY AND THATS THE FACT..
MY PAIN IS THAT ALL MY FRIENDS HERE IN ABJ ARE ALL IGBOS AND WE FLOW VERY WELL
if igbos want people to listen to them, they should learn decorum ..

do you expect me to listen to you when you already called me a bastard and deserve to be killed? i say no ..


by the way, you are just an impostor. you are not yoruba.

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 10:48pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
if igbos want people to listen to them, they should learn decorum ..

do you expect me to listen to you when you already called me a bastard and deserve to be killed? i say no

If you can't decipher the massage without looking through the bullshit..

then you never got the message

Nnamdi Kanu is just a mere messenger to the whole message,

I am not Biafran, but they have every right to secede
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ribbit: 10:50pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:
[size=13pt]TonyeBarcanista

sorry for coming in late...

but, the thing surprise me too, I am not in support of the Niger Delta joining Biafra, but the Igbos have every Universal and Constituitional right to demand for their freedom of expression and association..

I did not expect a Liberal minded person like Seun to fall for cheep gimmicks that his yoruba and fulani politicians spread in the Parliament..

I believe also that there is outside interference maybe DSS warning..
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so tyson fury didnt have freedom of expression when he made hate comment about gays and got his wbo title taken away from him right?
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 10:53pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
so tyson fury didnt have freedom of expression when he made hate comment about gays and got his wbo title taken away from him right?
[size=14pt]Tyson Fury was being Homophobic


Freedom of speech in the case of Freedom of association what Biafra wants is 100% legitimate

you think you would have heard about catalonia if Spanish media banned barcelona fans from talking about it?
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Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by coolscott(m): 10:53pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:
[size=13pt]TonyeBarcanista

sorry for coming in late...

but, the thing surprise me too, I am not in support of the Niger Delta joining Biafra, but the Igbos have every Universal and Constituitional right to demand for their freedom of expression and association..

I did not expect a Liberal minded person like Seun to fall for cheep gimmicks that his yoruba and fulani politicians spread in the Parliament..

I believe also that there is outside interference maybe DSS warning..
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Kachisbarbie:
[size=18pt]...Some people are getting it twisted already, feel free to promote your tribe _ I think the problem here is doing it at the detriment of national unity.[/size]
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ribbit: 10:53pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:

If you can't decipher the massage without looking through the bullshit..

then you never got the message

Nnamdi Kanu is just a mere messenger to the whole message,

I am not Biafran, but they have every right to secede
right.. messenger of hate. simple .. seun does want his forum to be turned hate forum.. anyone that is not happy with that should get the fhuck out.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by madenigga(m): 10:54pm On Dec 11, 2015
without Biafran threads I discovered that nairaland politics section has already started getting boring.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 10:56pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
right.. messenger of hate. simple .. seun does want his forum to be turned hate forum.. anyone that is not happy with that should get the fhuck out.
[size=14pt]you completely lost my point..

Nnamdi Kanu started radio Biafra in 2014.

Biafra has been a concept since 1967.( before Kanu was even born)

Secession is not Hate preaching
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Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ribbit: 10:58pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:
Tyson Fury was being Homophobic


Freedom of speech in the case of Freedom of association what Biafra wants is 100% legitimate

you think you would have heard about catalonia if Spanish media banned barcelona fans from talking about it?
bulllshit ...

see hypocrisy
so tyson doesnt have the right to be homophobic abi?



shey nairaland belongs to federal government or seun.. if barcelona bans catalonia, what stops catalonia from launching its own media?
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ribbit: 11:02pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:
[t]you completely lost my point..

Nnamdi Kanu started radio Biafra in 2014.

Biafra has been a concept since 1967.( before Kanu was even born)

Secession is not Hate preaching
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so is the hate speech necessary ?

did Scottish party ask Scottish to kill the English because they want to leave england?

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 11:03pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
bulllshit ...

see hypocrisy
so tyson doesnt have the right to be homophobic abi?



shey nairaland belongs to federal government or seun.. if barcelona bans catalonia, what stopped catalonia from launching its own media.
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But when you are done from here you go to twitter and facebook where the arab spring started abi?

if facebook had banned people from starting the arab spring would u have heard about it

or people who are pro palestine..

Nairaland is a social media medium, Seun know it
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Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 11:08pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
so is the hate speech necessary ?

did Scottish party ask Scottish to kill the English because they want to leave england?

Once again you have lost me

I just told you earlier that NNamdi Kanu is just a mere messenger to a message than was alive before he was born,

my point is,, there would be radicals

and yes there have been radicals in British Indepence movements

google: IRA
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by yapapa: 11:10pm On Dec 11, 2015
SonOfEl:
Obviously you have nothing meaningful to post....loser
buhahahaha ....pained Biafra goat! all they do best is crying about over spilled milk.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:11pm On Dec 11, 2015
Goodboiyy:
I just observed something today. Yoruba's re scared of Biafra.. Rule No. 9 is not acceptable...
stop using nnmadi kanu's term here. how is yoruba scared of biafra? you south south minorities sud even be scare more. yorubas has everything needed 2 exist has a nation than any other.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 11:16pm On Dec 11, 2015
Drchristian:
stop using nnmadi kanu's term here. how us yoruba scared of biafra? you south south minorities sud even be scare. yorubas has everything needed 2 exist has a nation than any other.
why should we South South Minorities be scared...

all we ask for is Fiscal Autonomy and we seem to be getting there

13% derviation: Check

Forming of NDDC: check

forming of ministry: check

Total royalties all offshore bases: check

Natural Gas reserves is 9th highest in the world and still unexplored: check

we have nothing to fear but fear itself, I hope your Cocoa trees have started harvesting.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by lezz(m): 11:22pm On Dec 11, 2015
FTBOY:
hey biitch, remember me? fucktoto, the guy u banned and he trolled frustration into ur life. see what u've been reduced to....from a supermod to a lousy troll. such is life. i'm still celebrating ur fall. worse is coming ur way cool
grin grin She claims she resigned. She couldn't have made a more honourable decision. _fucking self-righteous and prudish. Remember when I was banned in a section she wasn't moderating, did some investigation and discovered she used her far-reaching, super-MOD tentacles to ban me across section. I was mad. To pour insult to my wounds, the pervert who invited her to get me banned was also as guilty as sin with the very post he summoned her with.

Such an intelligent girl with a biased judgement and misplaced loyalty.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:23pm On Dec 11, 2015
vladimiros:
why should we South South Minorities be scared...

all we ask for is Fiscal Autonomy and we seem to be getting there

13% derviation: Check

Forming of NDDC: check

forming of ministry: check

Total royalties all offshore bases: check

Natural Gas reserves is 9th highest in the world and still unexplored: check

we have nothing to fear but fear itself, I hope your Cocoa trees have started harvesting.
look at dis one, these are d resources that dis ibos are laying claims to including d ports and u said u sudnt be scared.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 11:32pm On Dec 11, 2015
Drchristian:
look at dis one, these are d resources that dis ibos are laying claims to including d ports and u said u sudnt be scared.

so igbos are laying claim to NDDC?

so igbos are laying claim to Ministry of Niger delta?

so igbos are laying claim to offshore royalties?

abegi, I am Niger Deltan 100%, but biafrans never claimed our resources
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by baby124: 11:33pm On Dec 11, 2015
It appears Biafrans like and crave attention. As much as I love freedom of speech, you really can't tell anyone what to do with their property. Are you Biafrans afraid that only you will be laughing at your jokes? I know that is hell for a Biafran.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 11:47pm On Dec 11, 2015
baby124:
It appears Biafrans like and crave attention. As much as I love freedom of speech, you really can't tell anyone what to do with their property. Are you Biafrans afraid that only you will be laughing at your jokes? I know that is hell for a Biafran.
TonyeBarcanista is not Biafran,
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Observant: 11:53pm On Dec 11, 2015
zinachidi:
Though i'm not in full support of this new law shaa, buh Seun isn't denying anybody freedom of anything, you can promote biafra all u want buh not on this forum, this forum is afterall his.. If he sees promoting Biafra as ''illegal'' which it isn't IMO, thats his opinion, and if u don't like it, u know where the ''de activate button is''

Freedom of speech dosen't mean u can call a soldier an idiot and get away with itgrin..

Anyways, this Biafra protest was termed legitimate by the FG and the UN also has laws supporting it, still don't know yhe thinls otherwise.
Go and get educated bro
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by arresa: 11:55pm On Dec 11, 2015
ribbit:
if igbos want people to listen to them, they should learn decorum ..

do you expect me to listen to you when you already called me a bastard and deserve to be killed? i say no ..


by the way, you are just an impostor. you are not yoruba.
Very strange concept in their world.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by arresa: 12:20am On Dec 12, 2015
vladimiros:
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But when you are done from here you go to twitter and facebook where the arab spring started abi?
if facebook had banned people from starting the arab spring would u have heard about it
or people who are pro palestine..
Nairaland is a social media medium, Seun know it
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I don't remember seeing Arab spring folks spewing hatred, insulting and inciting violence against their own citizens on twitter and facebook.

I don't remember Arab spring folks calling their country a zoo and their own citizens zoo animals, slaves, bastards and so on..

I don't even remember arab spring folks agitating for any kind of dissolution or the demise of their own country, their surprising was against bad leadership.

Last time I checked, Arab Spring was not about wishing evil and destruction against their own country, it was about patriotism and betterment of their country and fellow country folks.


FB and other social platforms are not against freedom of speech regardless what you are fighting or agitating for, but they have strong policies against hate, hate speech, abuse, insults, incitement and advocating violence and destruction.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by SonOfEl(m): 12:27am On Dec 12, 2015
yapapa:
buhahahaha ....pained Biafra goat! all they do best is crying about over spilled milk.
And all you do is jubilate cowardly over any anti biafran move or stance....contented slave
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by vladimiros: 12:39am On Dec 12, 2015
arresa:
I don't remember seeing Arab spring folks spewing hatred, insulting and inciting violence against their own citizens on twitter and facebook.

I don't remember Arab spring folks calling their country a zoo and their own citizens zoo animals, slaves, bastards and so on..

I don't even remember arab spring folks agitating for any kind of dissolution or the demise of their own country, their surprising was against bad leadership.

Last time I checked, Arab Spring was not about wishing evil and destruction against their own country, it was about patriotism and betterment of their country and fellow country folks.


FB and other social platforms are not against freedom of speech regardless what you are fighting or agitating for, but they have strong policies against hate, hate speech, abuse, insults, incitement and advocating violence and destruction.
if you focus on the hate, you won't still get the message

they were lots of Biafran people on NL who just focused on Biafra and not hate

and yes Arab Spring had hate, lots of hate..for the oppressed minorities
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody:
Drchristian:
stop using nnmadi kanu's term here. how is yoruba scared of biafra? you south south minorities sud even be scare more. yorubas has everything needed 2 exist has a nation than any other.
Chai! the H factor. Lol. My friend gerrout you dont know what you are saying.

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