I keep wondering... Amazing!

Austeenx:
It's amazing how we've been winning all these trophies with `average' players and inept coaches.

airmark:


I am jobless, will you give me a job? Next time don't post that busquets world best dm rubbish again.

I can't believe you are really proud of towing that path of extreme idleness.
I'm sure there are many toilet washing jobs around you, get one!

Lol

dmcdad:
I keep wondering... Amazing!

Airmark has a big case with Busquet.

Austeenx:
It's amazing how we've been winning all these trophies with `average' players and inept coaches.

You just inadvertently stumbled on one of the most counterintuitive facts about a team sport - the winning formular is a system and a few maestros mixed with average players. The system started with Cruyff and on his debut Barca beat Real Madrid 5-0 in the Bernabeu. That was telling.

The Galaticos of the mid 2000s were on paper unbeatable with World Class players in each position. Yet Barca with just 2 maestros and a super-maestro (if I'm permitted) completely annihilated them. Worst day ever for poor Sergio Ramos. Never underestimate the power of a system. Also, too many cooks spoil the broth. Just have 1 or 2 cooks whom the rest trust and follow blindly.

homesteady:


I can't believe you are really proud of towing that path of extreme idleness.
I'm sure there are many toilet washing jobs around you, get one!

When a dolt like you has nothing meaningful to state again, he goes personal. I won't tread that path with you. I bully you with facts.

philfearon:

I guess your brain didn't remind you that all of the time, Barca has 60-70 percent of the ball, which makes it harder for Busquets to be doing interceptions as the ones there are mostly from the counter he stopped...
If u had any iota of football sense, you will realise Barca pattern of football makes it hard for Busquets to be accumulating the same type of DM stats that a DM in another team(arsenal for example) accumulates..
Dont let your hatred blind you...

Who's this one again? Barca and spain dominating their opponents coversthe weaknesses of neophytes like valdes and busquit. Despite dominating opponents we still have busquets losing possession here and there and being a defensive weakling of note. He is always found wanting against counter-attacks where he is clueless. Any dm losing ball possessions anyhow is a poor dm. If you want to win barca easily just bully busquets, you are done. Psg and others did this successfully last season. Sometimes i don't know how you guys watched your games. If any unbiased technical soccer expert says he is the world best dm, then soccer is at its all-time low. Take busquets to teams like villareal, getafe, malaga or athletico, where his defensive ability will be thoroughly tested, you will understand better that he is a very average dm.

logica:
LOL. So if you were Matthieu, would you rather sit on the bench; or have your coach put you on the spot by subbing you in to a position you are not comfortable with? Would you rather be a scapegoat for conceding a goal less than 2 minutes after you got on the pitch? There is no doubt on what you would have chosen. Alba was not injured last I checked. It was just 20 minutes to go; so what was the sub about?

D manager is in charge, he can choose 2 use a player he deems probable, he watches them in training every week. Matthieu is a defender and a left footer, where else will he feel comfortable after his preferred LB position? Eric abidal was also a left footer who fit in @ CB and LB well so stop making excuses 4 matthieu. Both of deportivo's goal were scored exactly frm his wing. If he's not comfortable playing LB and yet can't displace pique/masch as u claim, den he should put in a transfer request

BIG DEAL Do you know the significance of a DM losing possession? (In case you don't get it, the position of a DM holding the ball is always precarious because he usually has nobody to cover for him if he loses the ball) And you say BIG DEAL? You listed Messi and Xavi losing ball possession and it led to a goal; do you realize this is an indictment on the DM and defense? Where did Messi lose possession? On the opponents side of the pitch; where was the defense and DM? You merely mentioned 1 instance of Messi and Xavi losing possession; should I mention about 10 instances Busquets did same; starting with Champions League SF against Inter Milan?

U still don't get it. D function of gaining back possession of d ball in d middle isn't d sole responsibility of the DM, as long as ure in d middle, u have 2 do ur part. So messi and xavi can lose possession in d middle and Busquests can't cos he's a DM? Very funny and hypocritical. That I mentioned just 1 example for messi and xavi doesn't mean it happened just once, even last season against granada or so, messi lost possession of the ball in the middle, the opposition got d ball, countered and scored within seconds, am sure ull blame Busquests 4 that too. Point is; for every ball Sergio Busquests has lost, he's won us 10 times more, gave assists and even won us penalties which has given us a load of goals and trophies. U can't be @ a loss if you lose $20 daily and gain $200 in d same day



NB: I just got 2 know ure actually a barca fan and boy am I surprised . A cule who thinks Sergio Busquests is average. Mehn that's a rarity

BarcaBlood:

Sacrilege. Comparing Matthieu to Abidal. Let's leave it at that.

BarcaBlood:

I just got 2 know ure actually a barca fan and boy am I surprised . A cule who thinks Sergio Busquests is average. Mehn that's a rarity

It's a rarity because I have watched far better Holding Midfielders play that role for Barca. Busquets does not compare favorably with Guardiola for instance. If you ever watched Guardiola play, you would know what I'm talking about.

logica:

Sacrilege. Comparing Matthieu to Abidal. Let's leave it at that.

Am not comparing them. Just making my point that he's not a top defender since accordind to u he's not comfortable playing LB that's why we should take d trash he's serving us and blame d manager instead

It's a rarity because I have watched far better Holding Midfielders play that role for Barca. Busquets does not compare favorably with Guardiola for instance. If you ever watched Guardiola play, you would know what I'm talking about.

Pep bossed his time and so is Busquests doing his. For this barca team there's no better DM. He fits in so perfectly. Well its said that one doesn't value what it has until he loses it. We don't want that 2 be d case, true cules value him, he's an unsung hero who doesn't even seek d limelight

logica:

Sacrilege. Comparing Matthieu to Abidal. Let's leave it at that.
It's a rarity because I have watched far better Holding Midfielders play that role for Barca. Busquets does not compare favorably with Guardiola for instance. If you ever watched Guardiola play, you would know what I'm talking about.

No one has ever compared Busi to Pep and no Barca fan will. If I may ask, how many Guardiola's can we find out there today? And who would you suggest we play as our midfield since Busi is average. Your honest answer bro, who can we deploy there that would fit expertly there and offer a Guardiola-esque performance for us?

airmark:


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I will like to ask you who is the brain in Barca's weakening of oponents with their passes?

stuff46:

I will like to ask you who is the brain in Barca's weakening of oponents with their passes?

In tiki taka, players in the middle play in unison and we have seen busquet not doing his best to shield his defence and losing possessions in the sytem. Over the years what majorly distinguish barca and other great teams is messi. Meanwhile, not many people notice that busquets is the weakest in ball possession among barca's midfielders. Gabi at 31 cashed in on this and ate him raw last year.

Laughable point

airmark:


1. Over the years what majorly distinguish barca and other great teams is messi.
2. Meanwhile, not many people notice that busquets is the weakest in ball possession among barca's midfielders. .

Everything starts with the ball and finish with the ball. The game is 11 versus 11 with ONE ball. We try to keep the ball, we try to play with the ball, we try to make everything with the ball.
Josep Guardiola, FutbollTV.com

This was Guardiola's reply to the question that was asked about his style of play. The Barcelona setting of play leaves the main work in the pitch for one man; Sergio Busquet. How?

www.passion4fm.com/tactical-analysis-of-the-barcelona-tiki-taka-playing-style/
Read here to understand more about this.

1. This is an undisputable fact, we have seen this arguement being rubbished by so called barca-haters during the time of Messi's absence. Mind you, all team mate has his or her own contribution to a team.

2. Whenever you see that barcelona team plays badly, it turns out that Busquet isn't at his best. Take clues from all the crop and edit pissures that you pasted. What does that tell you?
It shows that he is the focal point of the team. The hidden hero.
When one has a bad game and it affects the team what does that tell you.

Him being the weakest point in the midfield is a point I need you to justify more.

When Pep was appointed, his quote was that "we are in for a ride".

Since May 2014 that Bale scored against Atletico, he has yet to score against a big club.

Since May 2014, he has played against 29 big clubs and failed to score against one of them.

I guess Ronaldo is taking cue from him then.

stuff46:
[s]Laughable point
1. This is an undisputable fact, we have seen this arguement being rubbished by so called barca-haters during the time of Messi's absence. Mind you, all team mate has his or her own contribution to a team.[/s]

2. Whenever you see that barcelona team plays badly, it turns out that Busquet isn't at his best. Take clues from all the crop and edit pissures that you pasted. What does that tell you?
It shows that he is the focal point of the team. The hidden hero.

You should n't be surprised cos as a DM once you lose possession or not protecting his defenders, your central defence will have little chance against fleet-footed, intelligent attackers/ goal poachers hungry on a counter. I pasted ratings that showed that he was the one responsible for opponents getting back into games to earn one or three points which were not supposed to be as the world best dm. However, there are still matches barca won and your so-called dm played poorly defensively and got criticised by experts. But thanks to other great players who came to the rescue scoring crucial goals to erase his technical errors. Valdes got to man utd and his incompetence was clearly exposed and relegated to u-21 team. Busquets is next.

airmark:


1. You should n't be surprised cos as a DM once you lose possession or not protecting his defenders, your central defence will have little chance against fleet-footed, intelligent attackers/ goal poachers hungry on a counter.
2. I pasted ratings that showed that he was the one responsible for opponents getting back into games to earn one or three points which were not supposed to be as the world best dm.
3. However, there are still matches barca won and your so-called dm played poorly defensively and got criticised by experts. But thanks to other great players who came to the rescue scoring crucial goals to erase his technical errors.
4. Valdes got to man utd and his incompetence was clearly exposed and relegated to u-21 team. Busquets is next.

[quote]1. Hungry attackers who choose to counter attack barca in most times have had there own share of the loss as barca has suffered so that isn't a valid point.
2. I doubt if you sincerely watch barcelona games or bent on picking rating from goal.com. If you claim a good barca hater, please try watching and analyzing Busquet play in the pitch not just the wack rating from a site.
3. Show me those matches before I can tell you anything about that.
4. If Valdez got to and was relegated, serves him right cause right from his time at barcelona, he had clearly shown his incompetence in the game.

Show me a DM that has achieved Busquet's feet in his entire career since he was incorporated into the first team. You cannot jusify such stands as there is none. If he isn't covering much shield to the team, why are Barcelona's managers after Pep not clamouring for his axing in the first team. Like I said earlier, each member of a squad has a lot of contribution to the team. If busquet hasn't been good all while, why haven't he been displaced from the Spanish National team since his integration. My bro, zero your mind and see through the struggles of a nigga. Many DM have been bought to Barca and none has played more than 10match in that position without having question mark (Ranging from Song, Rakitic, Mashe, et al). They don't fit into the Setting of the Barcelona football in the Dm and have not been able to offer better competition or selection for the coach. It is better to start accepting the fact that he is the best of his time and move on with life cause all the above mention Matic, M. Schnederin, F. Coquelin and co. Haven't played top football and lasted more than a season that I have watched. I am still waiting on them to play better in coming years and try to displace Busquet as the best.


NB: If after all these point you still aren't convinced and confused that Busquet is a World Class DM I will recomend Uta Pia Pia. (It is just 20naira if you don't have the money, go dmcdad will give you)

stuff46:

Honestly you too get time. Unsurprisingly though, na waste of time I tell ya. That guy no go gree.

Messi: "Don't think about individual prizes. Been lucky to win them all, now I want to establish more of a name through team trophies" [tyc]

One would have expected him to relax after so much trophies and success!

someone shd pls list our club world cup fixtures...date...time

Claireshan1:
Happy birthday dmcdad

Holla abubakar

stuff46:

NB: If after all these point you still aren't convinced and confused that Busquet is a World Class DM I will recomend Uta Pia Pia.

Which senseless points?

That you said valdes ( the la liga best goal keeper for two consecutive seasons) was incompetent for barca since he is no more at nou camp?

That i should show you the matches busquets did n't shield his defence smartly, as if you did nt even watch the most recent xmas gift your world best dm gave to deportivo attackers?

That you doubted if i watched busquit play before, cos i used ratings to back up my assertions?

My friend, from rabat to manila, i know a great dm that can survive any weather when i see one. I was blessed to have watched the great makalele , lothar matthaus, deschamps, edgar davids, vieira and others in their era and understand what a great dm is made of compared to your sluggish busquet. I dont watch players based on what camera throws at me like you lots. I take into consideration many off-the-ball technical stuffs. Though great dms are scarce these days, but there are many dms playing for lowly-rated teams and are better than your diver. Take it to the bank busquit can never survive in an average team. You asked if busquets was nt great, another player would have displaced him. valdes kept for more than a decade despite having better keepers littering la liga and elsewhere. That defines how hogwash your points are.

I just remembered this paradox: Your greatest strength is your greatest weakness.. This paradox fits this Busquets argument like a washed pair of jeans.

dmcdad:

Honestly you too get time. Unsurprisingly though, na waste of time I tell ya. That guy no go gree.

I agree.

dmcdad:

Honestly you too get time. Unsurprisingly though, na waste of time I tell ya. That guy no go gree.

No worry nau, my guy go soon tire!

sebod:

No one has ever compared Busi to Pep and no Barca fan will. If I may ask, how many Guardiola's can we find out there today? And who would you suggest we play as our midfield since Busi is average. Your honest answer bro, who can we deploy there that would fit expertly there and offer a Guardiola-esque performance for us?

You see, I've read previous posts where people claimed Busquets makes up for his lack of physical presence and agility by being cerebral. I can only laugh. The truth is ALL defensive midfielders are cerebral by nature. It is a given. You cannot play that role if you are not technically gifted and sharp. There is an obvious reason why the best coaches were defensive midfielders in their playing days (pretty obvious). This is because as a DM you are already doing the duties of a coach. You are reading the game. You see the entire game due to your default location; the way a striker who is usually way upfront cannot see.

While I'm not looking for a Sammer who could carry his team to win the Champions League while playing as a Libero (for obvious reasons - that will change the leadership dynamics), I expect a more disciplined player who tends to lose the ball less, if at all.

Busquets can still do that but he needs to work on himself and discipline himself. It doesn't take much to put the ball out of touch if you sense you might lose it. That's what really smart DMs do.

sebod:
No worry nau, my guy go soon tire!

Him never know person wey him dey argue with.

sebod:
Messi: "Don't think about individual prizes. Been lucky to win them all, now I want to establish more of a name through team trophies" [tyc]

One would have expected him to relax after so much trophies and success!

Little wonder he is more contented with being more of a playmaker nowadays. My guy don be man finish sha.

logica:
You see, I've read previous posts where people claimed Busquets makes up for his lack of physical presence and agility by being cerebral. I can only laugh. The truth is ALL defensive midfielders are cerebral by nature. It is a given. You cannot play that role if you are not technically gifted and sharp. There is an obvious reason why the best coaches were defensive midfielders in their playing days (pretty obvious). This is because as a DM you are already doing the duties of a coach. You are reading the game. You see the entire game due to your default location; the way a striker who is usually way upfront cannot see.

While I'm not looking for a Sammer who could carry his team to win the Champions League while playing as a Libero (for obvious reasons - that will change the leadership dynamics), I expect a more disciplined player who tends to lose the ball less, if at all.

Busquets can still do that but he needs to work on himself and discipline himself. It doesn't take much to put the ball out of touch if you sense you might lose it. That's what really smart DMs do.

You never answered my question bro!

sebod:

You never answered my question bro!

The answer is right there. I am sure you can find names by yourself who match up with my description.

airmark:


When a dolt like you has nothing meaningful to state again, he goes personal. I won't tread that path with you. I bully you with facts.




Who's this one again? Barca and spain dominating their opponents coversthe weaknesses of neophytes like valdes and busquit. Despite dominating opponents we still have busquets losing possession here and there and being a defensive weakling of note. He is always found wanting against counter-attacks where he is clueless. Any dm losing ball possessions anyhow is a poor dm. If you want to win barca easily just bully busquets, you are done. Psg and others did this successfully last season. Sometimes i don't know how you guys watched your games. If any unbiased technical soccer expert says he is the world best dm, then soccer is at its all-time low. Take busquets to teams like villareal, getafe, malaga or athletico, where his defensive ability will be thoroughly tested, you will understand better that he is a very average dm.

There is a reason he displaced both Toure and Alonso in that position for club and country respectively!

philfearon:

There is a reason he displaced both Toure and Alonso in that position for club and country respectively!

Eh ehn? You mean, a 27 year old Busquets "displaced" a 34 year old Alonso in the Spanish NT? Tell us more. On the Toure matter...

logica:
Eh ehn? You mean, a 27 year old Busquets "displaced" a 34 year old Alonso in the Spanish NT? Tell us more. On the Toure matter...

G, the world Cup was played 5 years ago...
I believe u know maths, so subtract 5 from 27.....and that's the age he did that..

logica:
Oh oga coach. So which position is he good? Central Defense where Guardiola liked to play him?

The question is not whether Toure is good, but whether he was better than Sergio...