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Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by Rori(m): 8:16am On Dec 19, 2015
Also look at the issue this way. If we had allowed the previous administration to remove subsidy dnnt u think we wld nt be at this point now with this government? This govt. Wld nt be struggling by now to say they want to remove subsidy rather the issue wld nw be how to better manage the subsidy money since we all agree that the previous administration was nt prudent with d country's income. My point is that we should have gone past this point three years ago if the issue of subsidy removal was nt polticised.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by x12345678x: 8:17am On Dec 19, 2015
engrhorla:
Even if he did, does that mean he can have a change of opinion?

I don't get it!

Why are we always divided over political, religious and tribal issues?

If Tinubu or Anenih or Babangida should call for the removal of subsidy, we shouldn't attack the personality.
We should rather focus on the issue.

For me, I think every well meaning Nigerian needs to have a better understanding of the dynamics of fuel subsidy.
Are we really feeling the subsidy? Is it working? What about if it is removed? What impact will subsidy removal have on the economy that we are not feeling now?

These and many questions are what we, irrespective of your political, religious or cultural inclination, should focus on.

God bless Nigeria
I hope u gave this same advice in 2012.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by hush15: 8:26am On Dec 19, 2015
Dreambeat:
Ofcourse you will not hear because he is a snake.Who do you think sponsored some of those Ojota dancing parties in the name of protest just to discredit the previous administration.Tinubu and his likes are very deceptive,the more you look,the less you see.
Not just deceptive, also manipulative.... am sure he already has something up his sleeves for him to be talking self. The most greedy man I can easily point to in our country.
They say Jonathan government stole, I don't think they ever stole as much as this useless man has ...
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by ngoziama: 8:29am On Dec 19, 2015
persius555:
I keep wondering why a lot of nigerians becloud their sense of judge with partisan sentiment at the expense of the economy. The subsidy removal protest then was in many ways justified since crude oil price was still hovering between 80 dollars to above 100 dollars per barrel. The cost of producing a barrel was 30 dollars and the govt had upto 60 dollars left to share btw itself and its venture partners.
Today, crude oil sells for as low as 38 dollars and still expected to fall further. We can hardly fund our budget because profit margin is as low as 8 dollars per barrel. The gap is so huge that if we continue to fund subsidy with the meagre we make from crude oil, its only a matter of time before the economy comes crashing down.

Jagaban's call for removal of subsidy at this point in time is just the right thing to do economically. The money should be channeled into building our infrastructures like power, railway, highway,schools etc. These sectors will form a solid base for a diversified economy. A lot of nigerians opposed subsidy then because no one trusted the GEJ's pdp led govt. As at that time, other economies were increasing their foreign reserve while we were depleting it. Today, algeria has almost 100 billion dollars in its foreign reserve and a national debt profile of 5 billion dolars. Compare that to our own 29.5 billion dollars reserve and a debt profile of over 15 billion dollars. Who is responsible for this anomaly? Your guess is as good as mine.

The two countries are monolithic based economies, algeria has a well developed infrastructural system.the same cannot be said of nigeria.We have a larger population which by all general economic index should be an advantage.
If you are apc agent pllllllllleasssssssssssse please just keep quiet .Take a look at nigeria and score buhari.it is zero per cent.

During gejs tenure we never witnessed political assassinations, he never interefered in electoral matters.look at buhari today, first he appointed 98percent hausas I mean core northerners to head inec. bayelsa inconclusive, wike sacked, akwaibom sacked, t, taraba sacked , fayose is also in the line. Of course the world is watching and I bet you buhari has come to pay for his atrocities.his vengeance nature has derailed his zero ideas.buhari said there is no subsidy and we have assimilated that so he shouldn't mention subsidy now .
A wicked leader is the worst ever to happen to us . Jonathan had a human face but the arrogant man in aso rock is mean but buhari should not try God
He should check our history.when nigerians begin to cry and pray things happen ohhhhh.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by ngoziama: 8:37am On Dec 19, 2015
fckmn24seg:
If GEJ had removed subsidy would the money not go like DASUKI GATE? The partial removal of subsidy went down the drain with nothing to show for it, all promises of new refineries and road only appeared in our dreams and imagination.

Stupiiid Jonathan and his ministers
Call gej and his ministers stupid and call buhari and his ministers what.dasukigate is just an avenue to keep us busy discussing gej administration why they impoverish us through anti people policies.all of them are involved in dasukigate so why all the hypocrisy.any saint amongst apc should stone dasuki and if that stoner is not a saint may thunder strike him or her dead from above.. using dasuki as an excuse meanwhile nothing is in their brains and it is even unfortunate that returning to school is far from it.mtchewwww
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by x12345678x: 8:40am On Dec 19, 2015
muyibaba222:
Remember Nigeria economy and demand/price of crude was nt like this in 2012. Nigeria was getting more money then
When u guys quote d current price of crude et al, u indict this government d more, the cost of subsidy in 2012 was wayyyyyy higher than what it is tday. To me removing subsidy in 2012 n increasing pump price to 100naira was a genius plan. The new plan by dis govt wit pump prices to go up to #97 when d cost of crude is 35dols(meaning d price we pay for subsiding is way smaller than what we payed in 2012) is not even intellectually close to the previous plan. PMB's projected pump price is 97# @35dollars/bbl while GEJ's price was 100# @115dollars/bbl. Use ur church mind now do the maths which one saves us more money and makes more economic sense.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by akigbemaru: 8:44am On Dec 19, 2015
Tinubu to BUhari remove subsidy now.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by myrates: 8:45am On Dec 19, 2015
This is hypocrisy of the highest order. It is even more sad that the ignorant poor masses who are not enjoying kerosine subsidy were sponsored to stage protest against subsidy removal thereby making the so called cabal more wealthy and the poor getting poorer. Now the same APC that said 'no removal of subsidy' is now proposing the immediate removal, suddenly,everybody keeps quiet.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 8:48am On Dec 19, 2015
nwakibie3:
U should also tell ApC to stop looking backward(past administration) so that we can move forward
Exactly what I meant.

We are so much fixated, even this govt, on the inadequacies of the past govt that little or nothing is being done to ameliorate the status quo.

I think we are on the same page now?
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by x12345678x: 8:50am On Dec 19, 2015
persius555:
I keep wondering why a lot of nigerians becloud their sense of judge with partisan sentiment at the expense of the economy. The subsidy removal protest then was in many ways justified since crude oil price was still hovering between 80 dollars to above 100 dollars per barrel. The cost of producing a barrel was 30 dollars and the govt had upto 60 dollars left to share btw itself and its venture partners.
Today, crude oil sells for as low as 38 dollars and still expected to fall further. We can hardly fund our budget because profit margin is as low as 8 dollars per barrel. The gap is so huge that if we continue to fund subsidy with the meagre we make from crude oil, its only a matter of time before the economy comes crashing down.

Jagaban's call for removal of subsidy at this point in time is just the right thing to do economically. The money should be channeled into building our infrastructures like power, railway, highway,schools etc. These sectors will form a solid base for a diversified economy. A lot of nigerians opposed subsidy then because no one trusted the GEJ's pdp led govt. As at that time, other economies were increasing their foreign reserve while we were depleting it. Today, algeria has almost 100 billion dollars in its foreign reserve and a national debt profile of 5 billion dolars. Compare that to our own 29.5 billion dollars reserve and a debt profile of over 15 billion dollars. Who is responsible for this anomaly? Your guess is as good as mine.

The two countries are monolithic based economies, algeria has a well developed infrastructural system.the same cannot be said of nigeria.We have a larger population which by all general economic index should be an advantage.
Nigerians dint trust GEJ in [b][/b]2012n
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 8:51am On Dec 19, 2015
Bizibi:
we can't be looking backward and hope to move forward hmmm,just wait for the next president......
Wait for the next president?

Baba, three and half years no be small thing o.

I cried that Buhari should be president. Now he is there and I am not pleased with what he is doing.
Therefore, I have been crying for an improved performance from him.

My point: it is our duty, we the citizens, to bring about the change or transformation we want.

Let us make these leaders work for the mammoth wages they are collecting.

God bless Nigerians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 8:57am On Dec 19, 2015
Rori:
The issue is if they objected against removal of subsidy back then, what was dia reason? Now they are calling for it to be removed , why do they want it removed now? N/B I dnnt think oil price shld be used as a reason cuz the price will still eventually go up
I get you.

That is why I opined that we the citizens should dig deep into this subsidy issue.

Enough of them feeding us archaic, baseless information.

My problem is not why APC kicked against subsidy then as it were or why APC is canvassing for subsidy removal now.

My problem is this: Is subsidy working for we Nigerians as a whole? Will we be better off if it's removed?

It is about us and how we feel.

We have a voice, let us use it.

God bless Nigerians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 9:00am On Dec 19, 2015
x12345678x:
I hope u gave this same advice in 2012.
Well sir/ma, I did not.

But does that matter?

Shall we keep looking at the past and thereby deprive ourself the joy in the present and the goodness in the future?

Nay, I disagree!

Hence, I say that was then and this is NOW!

Moreso, we become wiser as the days roll by.

I hope you agree with me, Sir/Ma?

God bless Nigerians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by moyin2009: 9:41am On Dec 19, 2015
Hypocrisy, during GEJ era you fought him for partial removal now you are clamoring for total removal. God Bless Nigeria and deals with thieving politicians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by skipofem(f): 9:41am On Dec 19, 2015
engrhorla:
Well sir/ma, I did not.

But does that matter?

Shall we keep looking at the past and thereby deprive ourself the joy in the present and the goodness in the future?

Nay, I disagree!

Hence, I say that was then and this is NOW!

Moreso, we become wiser as the days roll by.

I hope you agree with me, Sir/Ma?

God bless Nigerians!
it will not matter cos u are a bias, selfi.sh and a bloody hipocr.it
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by emmygzy(m): 9:42am On Dec 19, 2015
MichaelSokoto:
Jagaban of Borgu has spoken!
Haterz can kontinue havin erektion over it! cool

Pained morrafuckers! tongue
why abused people for saying the truth. If you are an APC robot that always believe in anything APC says, it doesnt mean you should call them modafuckers. Its like even if Tinubu says he wants to kill all your family, you will see it as the best idea.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 9:48am On Dec 19, 2015
skipofem:
it will not matter cos u are a bias, selfi.sh and a bloody hipocr.it
Oh, come off it. Name calling won't do, bro.

However, you will agree with me that we the electorate are in a very reasonable way more concerned about the direction that the country is going now than in 2012.

Hence, the reason I said it does not matter.

God bless Nigerians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by emmygzy(m): 10:04am On Dec 19, 2015
lordkay10:
Don't mind those demented f00ls, there are too many blockheads on nairaland these days, this has always been my argument, the oil price during GEJ's era doesn't justify removal of subsidy coz we had more than enough to sustain it. And I'm 100% sure they would have squandered the money the DasukiGate way. Reading posts from people like you gives me consolation that not all Nigerians are stupid
How old are you? are you sure that youre up to 18? why call people fools. The people youre calling fools for air their opinion could be manager of companies. Ive met so many big men and women on this nairaland. Please use your brain. What theyre saying is the truth. You dont do things that you condemed other people for doing. That is hypocrisy. Aside that, the cost of crude is down, and i dont think government is paying much subsidy again, unlike Gej's era that the landing cost of refined petrol was very high making him to pay trillions of naira for subsidy claims.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by nikz(f): 10:16am On Dec 19, 2015
Hypocrisy at its peak! So now it's best to remove subsidy after fighting GEJ? Weldone oh! Only God will judge.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by MrCounselor: 10:18am On Dec 19, 2015
preacherz:
Another of ya Lofty promises........just like de Devil.......dont U APC Jan ja weed eva get tiredhuh??

Bunch of mentally deranged amphibians
Ndi ala na-awa Anya
Ndi ala na-awa Anya, Kill yourself, you the super-sophisticated Homo sapien.
You have nothing to show for it... As if the Hausas have been helping you
rule your states since the 1914 Amalgamation.

I don't do politics, but I'll gv APC enuf time to prove a changed Nigeria.
Biafra will only be a mediocre entity, I dey tell you.
If otherwise, goodluck.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by Nobody: 10:24am On Dec 19, 2015
Are these not the same people who campaigned against subsidy removal 3 years ago? APC keeps stealing GEJ's ideas, and yet they frustrated the man's effort to actualize his programmes, What a scam!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by egobetatoday: 10:26am On Dec 19, 2015
Pidggin:
Are these not the same people who campaigned against subsidy removal 3 years ago? APC keeps stealing GEJ's ideas, and yet they frustrated the an's effort to actualize his programmes, What a scam!
since they dont have ideas of their own the best they can do is steal other people's ideas. Change indeed!¥
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by lordkay10(m): 10:49am On Dec 19, 2015
emmygzy:
How old are you? are you sure that youre up to 18? why call people fools. The people youre calling fools for air their opinion could be manager of companies. Ive met so many big men and women on this nairaland. Please use your brain. What theyre saying is the truth. You dont do things that you condemed other people for doing. That is hypocrisy. Aside that, the cost of crude is down, and i dont think government is paying much subsidy again, unlike Gej's era that the landing cost of refined petrol was very high making him to pay trillions of naira for subsidy claims.
You're either a 13 year old or an adult with a brain of a 13 year old!
Just read my posts did I pick out anyone? You're the biggest hypocrite for criticizing my post when ur own post too reeks of foul language. You're not worth my mentions anymore, swegbe!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by Bizibi(m): 10:51am On Dec 19, 2015
engrhorla:
Wait for the next president?

Baba, three and half years no be small thing o.

I cried that Buhari should be president. Now he is there and I am not pleased with what he is doing.
Therefore, I have been crying for an improved performance from him.

My point: it is our duty, we the citizens, to bring about the change or transformation we want.

Let us make these leaders work for the mammoth wages they are collecting.

God bless Nigerians!
wait fr the next president, the party will give him headache..... it is time we focus on our states
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by engrhorla(m): 11:09am On Dec 19, 2015
Bizibi:
wait fr the next president, the party will give him headache..... it is time we focus on our states
Okay oooo.

Those states truly need focus!

God bless we Nigerians!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by darediamond(m): 11:21am On Dec 19, 2015
You are never one of the educated and non-educated mumu of the highest orther we have in Nigeria.
Your head they dia TANDA GIDIGBA!!
May Jah bless you. Amen
Dreambeat:
Ofcourse you will not hear because he is a snake.Who do you think sponsored some of those Ojota dancing parties in the name of protest just to discredit the previous administration.Tinubu and his likes are very deceptive,the more you look,the less you see.
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by darediamond(m): 11:27am On Dec 19, 2015
One of the trained super mumu you bé?
MichaelSokoto:
Jagaban of Borgu has spoken!
Haterz can kontinue havin erektion over it! cool

Pained morrafuckers! tongue
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by Splashme: 11:32am On Dec 19, 2015
Viktor1983:
Funny Country . grin grin grin grin
Too too many clowns around.
where are the actors of #OccupyNigeria?
Ifele megbuo unu!
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by omoalayo(m): 11:48am On Dec 19, 2015
This people that did not allow the previous administration to remove the subsidy now asking someone to remove it...
I will nt gree... NO REMOVAL OF SUBSIDY..KO JOOR. OCCUPY NAIJA... they should first go and call Jonathan give Him the chance to become President fr 2 weeks and then He remove the subsidy.. Then We'll take note... But without that... No subsidy removal...
Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by miqos02(op): 11:49am On Dec 19, 2015
ocelot2006:
Correction: Oshiomole NEVER EVER supported subsidy removal. Check the 2012 Town Hall meeting organized in Lagos by Thisday newspaper on this same issue. Oshiomole was on with the opposong party.
see this link

dailypost.ng/2011/12/23/subsidy-battle-in-lagos/

Re: Remove Subsidy, Stimulate Infrastructure, Tinubu Tells Buhari by impartialspec: 11:49am On Dec 19, 2015
Dreambeat:
Hipocrisy!After winning an election riding on the back of 'do not remove subsidy',you have suddenly woken up from your slumber to realize that subsidy claims have been holding the nation back.This man is one of those Nigerian politicians that need to be done away with in a revolution.He has directly or indirectly killed dreams.I am sure God cannot wait to judge him.
This is post of the month
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