₦airaland Forum

vedaxcool:

coldsummer:
[size=18pt]All these loot in billions. How would the country survive.


Go will judge Okonjo sanusi, emefele Jonathan.


What sort of useless animals are these. [/size]

LordAdam:
This is like awarding contracts, unless you believe awarding contracts is a terrible policy too.

LordAdam:
The government has its terms, if the prospective contractor meets the terms, he or she gets the contracts.

LordAdam:
You fail to see that a similar policy was enforced in the local auto industry and it has been working fine (pending any untoward revelations). In the auto industry, the import duty of used cars was increased to 70% and the import duty of imported new cars also got a raise. However, the importation of knocked parts was reduced to encourage car manufacturers to set-up assembly plants here.

Now we have Nissan, Hyundai and a host of others including Peugeot (that has been around) making giant strides. At the moment, tens of manufacturers including Toyota and Mercedes and registered interest in entering the Nigerian auto market.

LordAdam:
Every nation enforces policies to discourage foreign imports for goods that can be produced in the country. Rice can be produced in Nigeria, but we are not self-sufficient now. There may be other policies that could be used to achieve the end-point of reduced rice import and increased domestic production, I am no economist, but do not suggest that the policy by the GEJ administration is even remotely terrible.

LordAdam:
Your suggestion also has a loop hole. You cannot have a uniform tariff across all goods. It defies reason.

LordAdam:
Politicians will always have discretionary power, there is no way to avoid that. After all, it is the business men that fund the campaigns of the politicians, so the politicians have to return the favor when they get to power.

LordAdam:
What Nigeria needs is accountability. The question is not that politicians awarded the quota to their businessmen friends, the problem is that they did so with total disregard of the rules they themselves had set. That is the fraud and a major accountability problem. If you make rules, then follow them.

LordAdam:
Try harder. Attack the message, not the messenger. Though this statement means I am a hypocrite

I have a thick skull, I am a dimwit.

-Lord Mor.on

omohayek:
Guess what? I do think it's also a terrible tool which is almost always misused by politicians to reward their followers and relatives with public funds. Isn't awarding inflated contracts one of the most common forms of corruption in Nigerian politics?



And who gets to set those terms? Do you think successful countries are built on politicians awarding contracts on favorable terms to their cronies and kinsmen? Because that's what you have today in Nigeria.



You must be joking. Nigeria doesn't even register as a blip on the radar screen in terms of manufacturing of anything whatsoever, let alone cars. The key car manufacturers in the world are the USA, Germany, Japan and South Korea, and they didn't get to where they are by Nigerian-style tariff manipulation.



Every country also has corruption, robbery, rape and murder, but that doesn't mean these are good things. Most try to reduce the incidence of such things, but in Nigeria we cheer greedy politicians as they attempt to cheat us by interfering in markets, just because they say their policies are on our behalf.




Why, because you don't understand it? Tell that to Hong Kong, which has had such a thing for most of its history. Tell it to the World Trade Organization, which has negotiated several rounds of treaties towards this same "unreasonable" goal.



And instead of trying to fight it, we should therefore surrender to it? Why fight robbery and rape either? After all, they will always be with us.



No, the question is that politicians are allowed to award quotas and subsidies to friends at all: this is precisely what is called "corruption" in civilized countries. The difference between Nigeria and better run countries is that instead of just shrugging their shoulders and saying "that's life", citizens of less corrupt countries get outraged and either go out on the streets to protest, or introduce recall initiatives to throw the crooks out of office. We need to stop making excuses for our thieving political class, even if they come from the same tribe or party as we do.

Finally, no offense, but it's clear that you don't have any idea of how free trade works, or why protectionism is such an awful idea. As a corrective, I suggest you read Frederic Bastiat's "Candlemakers Petition."

http://fee.org/freeman/the-candlemakers-petition/

No politician will ever be able to outdo the wisdom of the market in deciding how to allocate resources - let alone Nigeria's political class of thieves and senile ex-soldiers, hardly any of whom have ever run any business under conditions of fair competition in their entire lives.

LordAdam:
IDIOTS!!!

Did you guys read the article?



EKPA!!!

Was it GEJ that told the companies not to fulfill their end of the bargain? Is the PMB government not still maintaining the illicit rice quota 6 months into the government? Is it not the same thing that is happening with fuel subsidy? Did the PMB government not pay the fraudulent marketers N400b a few weeks back.

You guys are the evil in Nigeria. POT calling KETTLE black. HYPOCRITES!!!

-Lord

LordAdam:
Follow up a bit?

Is he the one to follow up? The EFCC and ICPC, are they not independent bodies? What about the regulatory agencies? Is he also the person heading all of them? Why did their respective heads not ensure that the policies were enforced and fraud were eliminated. Was it GEJ that informed them to let corruption thrive?

I remember the Odua scandal and how the woman was protected by GEJ, so I'm not saying GEJ was perfect. But PMB is no different. Why is everybody silent about the role of Sanusi and Emefiele in Dasukigate? Or that Femi Adesina as Editor received money (although it has now been returned)? Why are they not still lambasted if they are not protected by PMB.

As I said, the status quo remains. After Buharigate, the mills of Dasukigate has gone worringly silent. When you point a finger at someone, four figures are pointing back at you.

-Lord

LordAdam:
IDIOTS!!!

Did you guys read the article?



EKPA!!!

Was it GEJ that told the companies not to fulfill their end of the bargain? Is the PMB government not still maintaining the illicit rice quota 6 months into the government? Is it not the same thing that is happening with fuel subsidy? Did the PMB government not pay the fraudulent marketers N400b a few weeks back.

You guys are the evil in Nigeria. POT calling KETTLE black. HYPOCRITES!!!

-Lord

LordAdam:
Is it not media blackmail?

Did you not notice how the electronically controlled zombies jumped on the thread to scream anti-GEJ sentiments, without reading the article, like he was the one that managed the companies or oversaw the selection process?

It was an okay writeup but the intent was wrong especially when you look at the title. Why did the writer not say "Rice Mafia orchestrate massive fraud in Nigeria N117b rice import quota scheme"? Rather than use "massive fraud" to suggest that the whole scheme was ridden with fraud whereas only the marketers and their cronies defrauded Nigerians.

GEJ did his job of formulating good policies. The Minister of Agriculture did his best to ensure the policies were enforced. And saboteurs in the ministry that are still employed in the ministry under PMB's government today sabotaged the policy. These same people will likely sabotage PMB's policies too, like is evident with the fuel subsidy scandal.

As long as people like you and those I quoted earlier on continue to reason like jelly fishes, nothing meaningful will happen in Nigeria.

-Lord

baralatie:
What agenda are you talking about here?
A "media circus" leading to nowhere!!
A character assassination which of people and govt with nothing other than "classic media show for people to waggle their eyes about!!
I am still sticking to this statement" as long as these chanters continue to distract PMB,he will not achieve much unless he ignores all this media circus!

Daplux4:
The hypocrites came with lies and everything they say are all lies

feedthenation:
It seems every aspect of our economic sector is riddled with massive corruption...

LordAdam:
Is it not media blackmail?

Did you not notice how the electronically controlled zombies jumped on the thread to scream anti-GEJ sentiments, without reading the article, like he was the one that managed the companies or oversaw the selection process?

It was an okay writeup but the intent was wrong especially when you look at the title. Why did the writer not say "Rice Mafia orchestrate massive fraud in Nigeria N117b rice import quota scheme"? Rather than use "massive fraud" to suggest that the whole scheme was ridden with fraud whereas only the marketers and their cronies defrauded Nigerians.

GEJ did his job of formulating good policies. The Minister of Agriculture did his best to ensure the policies were enforced. And saboteurs in the ministry that are still employed in the ministry under PMB's government today sabotaged the policy. These same people will likely sabotage PMB's policies too, like is evident with the fuel subsidy scandal.

As long as people like you and those I quoted earlier on continue to reason like jelly fishes, nothing meaningful will happen in Nigeria.

-Lord

themilanway:
So Premium times is now an APC paper?Where were you and your goons when they reported Boko haram killed over 100 soldiers?
I guess the writers intent wasn't"wrong"then.Talk of double standard.

kevade:
I totally agree actors like the attorney general of the federation, Kate in a state governor, etc.
The write up has shown how our common wealth is being channelled to a thieving few while sabotaging legitimate long term plans that would guarantee the nations rice production development.
They bragged with pseudo achievements in this sector and every other sector of our economy. Politicising every sound policy it comes up with. Throwing figures of their spending without proper procedures, how in Heavens sake will it work.
My friend stop the sentiments and dwell on the issues. These guys have continued to drag us backwards for every supposed lrap.
The last administration was a sham.

Ijaya123:
GEJ ineptitude government practically brought this nation to its knees...and we are still struggling to get up.

May God help PMB.

LordAdam:
Show me where I said categorically that Premium Times is an APC paper in my reply? Na Sango go specially create the thunder wen go fire you.

I said "the intent was wrong". And I also said the "writeup was okay". The controversy may have been injected to spark interest rather than for political reasons. Next time, comprehend before replying.

-Lord

LordAdam:
Show me where I said categorically that Premium Times is an APC paper in my reply? Na Sango go specially create the thunder wen go fire you.

I said "the intent was wrong". And I also said the "writeup was okay". The controversy may have been injected to spark interest rather than for political reasons. Next time, comprehend before replying.

-Lord

LordAdam:
IDIOTS!!!

Did you guys read the article?



EKPA!!!

Was it GEJ that told the companies not to fulfill their end of the bargain? Is the PMB government not still maintaining the illicit rice quota 6 months into the government? Is it not the same thing that is happening with fuel subsidy? Did the PMB government not pay the fraudulent marketers N400b a few weeks back.

You guys are the evil in Nigeria. POT calling KETTLE black. HYPOCRITES!!!

-Lord