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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 30, 2015
blueseacats:
Mr. Tithe is considered charitable donations and are treated as such. If you don't know know now. Hope you know how irs deals with charity donations during returns ?
guy am sorry you are mistaken, Giving tithe has nothing to do with Govt policies. .if you are always waiting for ur Tithe as Tax return ,why pay Tithe

Thank God am educated cos u could have deceive me by calling Tithe as Tax return as a policy in Nigeria
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 30, 2015
Maximus85:


You didn't add PROSPERITY.

What makes me laff most is their yearly theme.

Since the 90's ooo
My year of double grace
My year of prosperity
My year of double portion
My year of divine upliftment
My year of absolute grace
My year of heaven on earth (lol)

Just look at them, they are all stuck/trapped in the same spot. Only if they can get free, they will be more successful working hard and then praying to God to bless their effort.

Good job by the pastors though, they well know how to fuel and ginger the gullible people's gullibility.

The more they look, the less they see.

Now, I'm waiting to be insulted. The truth is more bitter than bitter leave.
Only idiots will insult you, let's wait for idiots to respond.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Ryda(m): 1:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
midolian:
What makes this very annoying is that some people will never learn..some will still come here to defend their masters and attack the message and the messenger angry

The days of the prophets are gone. We only have pastors and Imams left...and very very few of them are real #Check my signature and see if u can Quoteme
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:14pm On Dec 30, 2015
Let me use this opportunity to worship Him that saved me from masturbation, lying, stealing, watching porn, abusing others and committing many sins:

His name is Jesus.
I know He lives and loves me more than any pained critic.

1 Praise to the Holiest in the height,
and in the depth be praise, --
in all his words most wonderful,
most sure in all his ways.


2 O loving wisdom of our God!
when all was sin and shame,
a second Adam to the fight
and to the rescue came.


3 O wisest love! that flesh and blood,
which did in Adam fail,
should strive afresh against the foe,
should strive and should prevail.


4 O generous love! that he who smote
in Man, for man, the foe,
the double agony in Man
for man should undergo;


4 And in the garden secretly,
and on the Cross on high,
should teach his brethren, and inspire
to suffer and to die.


5 Praise to the Holiest in the height,
and in the depth be praise, --
in all his words most wonderful,
most sure in all his ways.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Maximus85(m): 1:16pm On Dec 30, 2015
abbayrex:
This to me will be the best piece I have read this year. I hope our people are cured again the spell cast upon them by these charlatans who disguise as men of God. Most of them are senior occultic ifa priest.

There's this one with illuminati signs all over the church ground. Yet the followers say it's a coincidence..... Whaaaaat? Over 40 buildings...... Coincidence?

God have mercy.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
God is holy, so are His children.

Not that all who call upon Him are His,

Christ Jesus foretold that false prophets shall arise and deceive many.

But the Op's generalised approached is illogical.


And therefore, we can't accept opinions that are weird to logic
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
blueseacats:
Example this guy above just posted this, nobody will know this if not for irs audit https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208132427298812&id=1544605485&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F2831220%2Fmiracles-faith-healing-prophecies-tools%2F2&_rdr. Now how do we know what our flamboyant pastors actually spend our money on?
you don't need to know that's the role of the elders....you are giving to God not the church or Man
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
guy am sorry you are mistaken, Giving tithe nothing to do with Govt policies. .if you are always waiting for ur Tithe as Tax return ,why pay Tax

Thank God am educated cos u could have received me by calling Tithe as Tax re
My aim is not to deceive but educate you, church's don't pay tax because they nonprofit org. Just like every other nonprofit. Do your research. But non profits accounts are always audited for fraud, and churches are not excluded except in Nigeria where everything goes. Irs audit of churches always leads to this https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208132427298812&id=1544605485&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F2831220%2Fmiracles-faith-healing-prophecies-tools%2F2&_rdr . I guess in Nigeria this is not fraud , it's man of God spending gods money , pls free yourself from financial slavery.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:19pm On Dec 30, 2015
BlackPeni5:
Religion is a scam...But spirituality is genuine.
#Word..
You just summed it up..

Religion is a Bi*ch, and we all fell for her..
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:22pm On Dec 30, 2015
But it's dead in arrival.

Accept it or live it,

Even the governors/leaders you think might see reason in this have strong faith in God.

Yea, and some of them have experienced God's miraculous power,


Yea, many of them donate lavishly to God.

God therefore has so many on his side.

But who's on the OP's side?

Satan and a few cheesy
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:23pm On Dec 30, 2015
blueseacats:
My aim is not to deceive but educate you, church's don't pay tax because they nonprofit org. Just like every other nonprofit. Do your research. But non profits accounts are always audited for fraud, and churches are not excluded except in Nigeria where everything goes. Irs audit of churches always leads to this https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208132427298812&id=1544605485&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F2831220%2Fmiracles-faith-healing-prophecies-tools%2F2&_rdr . I guess in Nigeria this is not fraud , it's man of God spending gods money , pls free yourself from financial slavery.
now you are right.we have our diff beliefs..I know am always blessed when I pay my tithe,so I think am not in financial slavery...the only diff between you living flamboyantly in America and I living thru Gods blessing in Nigeria is Winter(snow) and I think I have the better weather thanks to God
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
you don't need to know that's the role of the elders....you are giving to God not the church or Man
Giving to God? Now I will leave you at this point ,keep your Nigerian definition of giving to God , I will take the western one , when I was broke I got scholarship from people who gave to charity that helped me through school, God is exalted, when my friend's daughter was sick, they got help from people who gave to charity to God be the glory at end my society is good neighbors smiling at each other and we only have one church , when I look at the faces of Nigerians around the neighborhood I usually visit , they don't look happy and there are over 4 church making noise at a moments notice. Keep your version of Christianity I will keep mine thanks.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by ikorodureporta: 1:27pm On Dec 30, 2015
Meanwhile, they'r like.......
*thinking of tomorrow's cross-over service gate fees*
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Ryda(m): 1:28pm On Dec 30, 2015
emusmith:
The carnal mind understandeth NOT the things of the Spirit neither can he know them. Why? They are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED or understood.
1 Cor. 2:14.

Op and his likes: It is the end that always justifies the means. A day comes, when every knee will bow to HIM who made it.

You mock divine miracles: Soon, you will need it and God will laugh because man, from the beginning, has depended on his infinitesimal wisdom and that has failed him. Truly, God's wisdom is foolishness to the wise. Salvation is what you need to truly be alive.


Jesus, all the way!!!


Nobody is condemning anybody the issue here is that Pastors have been deceiving people all in the name of God almighty creator of the heavens and earth

Pastors who mke false statement all in d name of God are jst like Nigeria politicians
they tell u all u want to hear.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by larrymoore(m): 1:29pm On Dec 30, 2015
beautiful diction! women are mostly at prey.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:29pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
now you are right.we have our diff beliefs..I know am always blessed when I pay my tithe,so I think am not in financial slavery...the only diff between you living flamboyantly in America and I living thru Gods blessing in Nigeria is Winter(snow) and I think I have the better weather thanks to God
Yea, that's your personal believe really, Chinese don't pay tithe, yet they are the fastest growing economy in the world, and have now become the richest, whatever happens to hard work.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by derecho(m): 1:30pm On Dec 30, 2015
The best post I have read so far.
flamingREED:
Let me use this opportunity to worship Him that saved me from masturbation, lying, stealing, watching porn, abusing others and committing many sins:

His name is Jesus.
I know He lives and loves me more than any pained critic.

1 Praise to the Holiest in the height,
and in the depth be praise, --
in all his words most wonderful,
most sure in all his ways.


2 O loving wisdom of our God!
when all was sin and shame,
a second Adam to the fight
and to the rescue came.


3 O wisest love! that flesh and blood,
which did in Adam fail,
should strive afresh against the foe,
should strive and should prevail.


4 O generous love! that he who smote
in Man, for man, the foe,
the double agony in Man
for man should undergo;


4 And in the garden secretly,
and on the Cross on high,
should teach his brethren, and inspire
to suffer and to die.


5 Praise to the Holiest in the height,
and in the depth be praise, --
in all his words most wonderful,
most sure in all his ways.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:31pm On Dec 30, 2015
blueseacats:
Yea, that's your personal believe really, Chinese don't pay tithe, yet they are the fastest growing economy in the world, and have now become the richest, whatever happens to hard work.
A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.
Ecclesiastes:6:2

You don't need to work like an hustler to be rich or comfortable...God giveth as he likes
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:33pm On Dec 30, 2015
When persons who know nothing about God speak,
You immediately discern that they have not read their Bibles half as well as they read Economics, political science and human theories.

How else do we explain unfair criticism against God's church?

For your information, Till heaven and earth pass away the word/worship of God shall not pass away.. It's a prophecy.

Observe these lines below very well:


1 The Bible stands like a rock undaunted
'Mid the raging storms of time;
Its pages burn with the truth eternal,
And they glow with a light sublime.


The Bible stands tho' the hills may tumble,
It will firmly stand when the earth shall crumble;
I will plant my feet on its firm foundation,
For the Bible stands,
The Bible stands.


2 The Bible stands like a mountain tow'ring
Far above the works of man;
Its truth by none ever was refuted,
And destroy it they never can.


3 The Bible stands and it will forever,
When the world has passed away;
By inspiration it has been given,
All its precepts I will obey.


4 The Bible stands every test we give it,
For its Author is divine;
By grace alone I will expect to live it,
And to prove it and make it mine.

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:34pm On Dec 30, 2015
AnakinSkywalker:



Funny that those who barely believe in Jesus are less corrupt than the people in Nigeria who take religion hypocritically serious.
There is correlation between how religious a country is and how poor it is. How bad it is and how corrupt it is.
Sorry the countries that depend on their wisdom are actually currently doing better. Very much better than those waiting on God to come build roads, plan their cities and enforce laws.

He mocks the fact that their is no proof of divine miracles today. I can perform a miracle. Any miracle if given the time. The same time it takes these so called men of God to plan a crusade and plan their so called miracles.

There are so may people on the street, they need miracles. There is none that I know of that has been healed. There are over 200 churches where I used to reside in Lagos. None of those guys have been healed. Not one.

He will need God and God will laugh? really? God does that? God is not childish.
There are so many people on the street that are sick. What are doctors doing?
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:39pm On Dec 30, 2015
Only a sinless man, without moral defects can persuade me to stop following God and I will give a little attention to him.

But since neither the OP nor anyone else can attain righteousness except by God, then they have lost out greatly in the matter.

Hallelujah!
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:39pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.
Ecclesiastes:6:2

You don't need to work like an hustler to be rich or comfortable...God giveth as he likes
I used to think like you on this topic until I left Nigeria, that's when I realized I was lazy, and that Nigerian youths are not far from being among the lazy set of youths in the world, the same bible said no food for lazy man remember?

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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Akaujaa(m): 1:40pm On Dec 30, 2015
Logically, this makes sense but spiritually, it doesn't. The Holy Bible says that the canal mind cannot understand the thing of the spirit. I am not oblivious of the fact that most pastors of nowadays are fake and materialistic but that doesn't imply that the words of God have changed by their penchant for materialism. Miracles still happen. Jesus performed miracles and he said greater works shall ye do in my name. Miracles are not meant to be captured by cameras and in videos, I agree. They happen in a manner that surpasses human understanding. God does not need your money as a condition for miracle to take place in your life; all He needs is your faith and believe in Him. So, all it takes is for one to have a perfect knowledge and understanding of the bible to be able to decipher when he/she is being misled by the self-acclaimed men of God. Above all, I BELIEVE IN MIRACLE because God has not changed, only men have changed.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
emusmith:
There are so many people on the street that are sick. What are doctors doing?


The doctors never claimed to heal like the biblical Jesus did.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
blueseacats:
I used to think like you on this topic until I left Nigeria, that's when I realized I was lazy, and that Nigerian youths are not far from being among the lazy set of youths in the world, the same bible said no food for lazy man remember?
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
John:3:27

But am not hungry but satisfied and comfortable so why will i go abroad and hustle like a slave when my God is always with me and making sure am living like king among men
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:43pm On Dec 30, 2015
Bollinger:


The amazing part of it all is that countries who don't even believe in God are growing in leaps and bounds. I wonder why?

They are?

Check again o.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.
Ecclesiastes:6:2

You don't need to work like an hustler to be rich or comfortable...God giveth as he likes
That's why we got chased out of the garden, so we can fend for ourselves . Read proverbs 14:23, proverbs 13:4, 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by flamingREED(m): 1:47pm On Dec 30, 2015
Finally,

Kumuyi's miracles are genuine.

You don't want to go and witness them yourself,
Nor do you believe the testimony of those that have experienced them,

In science facts are affirmed with control experiments

Why not, at least, attend a crusade organised by him with a relative or a near kin or a neighbour who's sick,

And then exercise the faith you're expected to exercise in prayers

Before trying to dispute their verity.

It takes a fractionally-distilled hypocrite to biasedly rival God the way you do
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
kallmemrB:
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
John:3:27

But am not hungry but satisfied and comfortable so why will i go abroad and hustle like a slave when my God is always with me and making sure am living like king among men
1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 Ecclesiastes 9:10 you must be a pastor, so I will show those verses you chose to ignore.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Welcomme: 1:52pm On Dec 30, 2015
agunnadi1:
OP you write up is an indication that you are not a christian in the true sense Please write on other things and leave a group you don't belong to alone. presence of counterfeit is an evidence there is genuine.
d op is a muslim. It was a copy n paste crap.
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by erusen: 1:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
Bollinger:


The amazing part of it all is that countries who don't even believe in God are growing in leaps and bounds. I wonder why?
which countries dont believe in god.did jesus tell u to enrich anoda man.or the bible told u to be guilable

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