₦airaland Forum

cckris:
Gitmo is in Cuba, and US Courts have no jurisdiction there.

cabaliciouscabal:
The govt cannot allow those criminalsssss out on bail, cus most of d judges dat granted d bail ar xtremly corrupt in Jonathan govt, Dasuki told Mohammed dat he should quickly get d dollars ready in other to bribe d judges handling kogi election petition claims, so most of those judges ar not working for d good interest of our country, all dey ar after is dia pockets. They will continue to receive disgrace in dia useles.s judgment and granting of meaningless injunction to dia cronies.


Imagine former governor of rivers state peter odili got same injunction not to be probe or tried in law court, after it is glaring dat he is among pple dat av looted d wealth of dis nation.


I support d president to hold on to dem until responsible judges with fear of God will take charge without fear or favour.


As for kanu d albino, he should continue to waste his tym by rejection one judge after d oda, he will go mustafa way, d federal govt is not in a hurry with his case, d next hearing he should ask for his girlfriend to come and sit as d judge.



He should av put all dis consequences together b4 dramatizing all d madness he was saying on his radio dounce biafra, now he is facing d shame, pain, alone.

Achuwa1:
Pmb is toeing the part of destruction by allowing fg agencies not to obey court orders & i think his advisers have failed to let him realise tht he is a president in a democratic government,not a president of a military govt.
. Mark my words,,,he will not finish his tenure with the part he is toeing,,do u know why ?...
because the senate will get fed up with his military system of govt,then gang up against him & impeach him or the wrath of God will fall on him..
i foresee him resisting impeachment & tht will lead to unrest,but will later calm down by the time osibanjo takes up the mantle of leadership coz God is watching.

Curlieweed:
First, Gitmo isn't technically part of the US. That's the reason the detainees were kept there. It creates the required environment to keep them in legal limbo (or purgatory if you want).

Secondly, none of the Gitmo detainee is a US citizen.

In this case these people are Nigerians held on Nigerian soil but some criminals in power refuse to obey the simple principles of separation of powers and the rule of law. You can't enforce the law by breaking the law. That kind of arbitrary abuse of power is a pure recipe for anarchy .

I'm not in anyway surprised by all this. Anybody could have predicted that the Mumuharri , the Daura President is too daft to understand how an orderly modern society works.

Enjoy your change ! E no concern me.

omenka:
From the beginning, they said Nnamumudi Kalluu has nuclear weapons and would visit the country with one of them soon, killing every living being in it besides Biafrans- we didn't see as much as a fire cracker.

Then they said he cannot be arrested- we was.

Then they dared the State to keep him beyond two days- he's been in a dungeon for over two months.

Then they said Vladamir Putin has ordered his release- he remains in the dungeons!

Then they said a lawmaker in the UK wrote a petition to their parliament for his unconditional release- that was over a month ago, dude's still languishing in the dungeons.

Then they said David Cameron has ordered his release since he's a UK citizen otherwise they would go to war with Nigeria- DSS got offended and increased the liquidity of his beans meal.

Then they protested on the streets- it didn't change anything.

Then they gave an Ultimatum- it has since expired and NOTHING has happened.

Then they said only an Igbo President could calm them down- PDP zoned the presidency to the North!

Then they demanded 8billion bribe to stop their protests- not a penny has been given them and I doubt Baba would give any.

Now they've brought Washington post article- Na today?? Ask them about detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

nduchucks:
Are you saying that because they were granted Bail the authorities should give up the right to arrest them for other crimes they perpetrated? Who cares if the arrest came 1 hour or 2 after they were releases but didn't get a chance to abscond?

CaaseStudy:
The international searchlights are beaming on Buhari and Nigeria. Separation of powers and the rule of law are being truncated and the judiciary and legislative arms are fast loosing relevance.

All i see in Buhari is a dictator who is yet to get used to democratic ways of doing things... He really needs a complete transfusion of his military blood and DNA to that of a true democrat. Talk of leopards shedding its spots, Is it POSSIBLE? ...

Bollinger:


There are some crimes you are accused of all over the world where they lock you up and throw away the keys. Terrorism for one. Every country is in agreement on this. And nowhere did a court order say to release a terrorist suspect and the government of America said no. Unlike what is happening in Nigeria.

Weselion:
Just Imagine if the Boko Haram leader is caught and a court orders for his release?

Nnamdi Kalu is a budding terrorist and should be treated like one.

Dasuki diverted funds meant for military artillery, some soldiers were prosecuted for not obeying orders due to absence of weapons and a court is putting him on bail?

Nigeria cannot move forward until citizens stop being hypocrites

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

EasternLion:
This is the man Obama right hand man campaigned for, he promised you he was a changed personality, and we here told you it is a lie that our own leopard never changes its spots, you said na lie say na Change, say na American change una carry come.

Now we are left with an unrepentant old despotic dictator, he finds it sweet to carry out vindictive agendas using the secret service.


I weep .


Iron hand does not mold a good country, rule of law, justice, equity and fairness does.

excellence44:
WHY WOULD HE OBEY COURT ORDER WHEN HE SAID JUDGES ARE CORRUPT?

" Dasuki is accused, among other things, of diverting $2.2 billion
meant to buy arms to fight the Boko Haram Islamic uprising.
Three courts have ordered his release on bail."


2019 is just by the corner.

anticabal1:
I haven't seen a developed country that was moulded by iron fists.

McSquishi:
As an American, I know I am not in a position to look down upon corrupt government practices. As others have pointed out our record re: Guantanamo & rendition alone is enough to give pause before judging.

I don't know enough about Buhari to give a full opinion, but I'm quite interested. Seeing the Post write about it interests me even more and makes me question the narrative bc I know many potentially great African leaders are often derailed in Western press. It seems as soon as something good may come for an African nation whom we've had our hands in the pockets of, we find a way to cast the leader/party/movement in a negative light (amongst other hands on tactics).

I would say though, that we should all be careful when we find ourselves willing to trade freedoms for security. Just bc the West does it doesn't make it right.

arresa:
We borrowed democracy from the West, but the judiciary in the same western countries you love to subscribe to and hold up against your own country that's battered and looted dry by the same judiciary and criminal elements while you suffer on bad roads, while you exist in darkness, while you are saddled with crippled healthcare, while they and their families jet out for ordinary headache, while you and your children are left with sad and pathetic education system don't grant bails to terrorists, they don't get to manipulate the court system to get evade justice while criminals walk around spending and enjoying stolen funds.

Their presidents don't call their treasury department to release billions to anybody or turn their treasury department to ATM or share stolen funds meant for their soldiers fighting terrorists all over the world with friends and cronies.

In Nigeria, looters and criminals walk free because of our corrupt and bankrupt judiciary, but not in America where they impeach presidents for less, where they send governors, senators and reps to jail with ease because they have credible, functioning and incorruptible judiciary, a far cry from what you are saddled with in Nigeria, a million mile long distance from the one you expect us to continue to live with still after 55 years of suffering and lack of progress.

Ibori is in jail in Britain because our corrupt and decayed judiciary refused to do their job. e are talking about a judiciary and court system that let a criminal like Ibori dedicate the terms of his own prosecution from where he is prosecuted to who prosecutes him and who judge his own case all under a president who not only looked the other way, but allowed the common criminal to to evade the Nigerian people and Nigerian justice system.


It's always laughable and pathetic to hear Nigerians pull up America when supporting their own upside down logic and disingenuous concern for rule of law after staying docile, silent for 55 years while the same criminals they are siding with used the same make sure they stay poor, underdeveloped and doomed to fail.


Nigeria is not America and America is not Nigeria.


The fact that you borrowed democracy from America doesn't mean you are or and must function like America.

Get your own dirty house in order first before such comparisons.

Sincere9gerian:
Not surprised at all. All the current shenanigans called fight against corruption will lead to nowhere. For instance, since the commencement of the so called fight against corruption, the collection of #50 by police officers on the road has not reduced one bit. If anything, it's getting worse. Buhari is just fighting his political enemies. Nothing has changed.
Olopa wil continue to collect their bribe.how much do they pay. Them?
#Truth

Pavarottii:
If I say what is in my mind now, they will ban me. Nairaland of late, doesn't allow freedom of speech! Well all I av to say is that.
"POSTERItY WILL JUDGE US ALL".

bettercreature:
We the intelligent people of south-west will give him another mandate comes 2019

MXrep:
Are u buharis mouth piece?? If that was the situation couldn't he simply explain yesterday??

plaetton:
The most pathetic piece of nonsense I have seen today.

During the last 15 years of Nigerian's democracy, no person was detained for freedom of speech, talkless of treason, despite all the national security challenges that the past administrations endured.

In fact, let me refresh your memory, that it was this same Buhari, yes, this Buhari, that chided GEJ for not looking into the GRIEVANCES of BOKO HARAM.
Have we forgotten soo soon?
Selective amnesia , perhaps

Today, you think we should sacrifice freedom for nebulous security?
Security from a harmless civilian, whose only weapon is his voice and forceful opinion ?

You're either very very ignorant or very very disingenuous.

ruffDiamond:
wasted generation of b-EAST curse be the day yr entire lineage born and curse be the day they die !









b-EAST OF ÑO NATION_uzodimma Ewu-ala

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

arresa:
We borrowed democracy from the West, but the judiciary in the same western countries you love to subscribe to and hold up against your own country that's battered and looted dry by the same judiciary and criminal elements while you suffer on bad roads, while you exist in darkness, while you are saddled with crippled healthcare, while they and their families jet out for ordinary headache, while you and your children are left with sad and pathetic education system don't grant bails to terrorists, they don't get to manipulate the court system to get evade justice while criminals walk around spending and enjoying stolen funds.

Their presidents don't call their treasury department to release billions to anybody or turn their treasury department to ATM or share stolen funds meant for their soldiers fighting terrorists all over the world with friends and cronies.

In Nigeria, looters and criminals walk free because of our corrupt and bankrupt judiciary, but not in America where they impeach presidents for less, where they send governors, senators and reps to jail with ease because they have credible, functioning and incorruptible judiciary, a far cry from what you are saddled with in Nigeria, a million mile long distance from the one you expect us to continue to live with still after 55 years of suffering and lack of progress.

Ibori is in jail in Britain because our corrupt and decayed judiciary refused to do their job. e are talking about a judiciary and court system that let a criminal like Ibori dedicate the terms of his own prosecution from where he is prosecuted to who prosecutes him and who judge his own case all under a president who not only looked the other way, but allowed the common criminal to to evade the Nigerian people and Nigerian justice system.


It's always laughable and pathetic to hear Nigerians pull up America when supporting their own upside down logic and disingenuous concern for rule of law after staying docile, silent for 55 years while the same criminals they are siding with used the same make sure they stay poor, underdeveloped and doomed to fail.


Nigeria is not America and America is not Nigeria.


The fact that you borrowed democracy from America doesn't mean you are or and must function like America.

Get your own dirty house in order first before such comparisons.

ibnakeem:
Pls sir, can you tell us what the offenses of Uwazuruke and Asari Dokubo were when they were both detained by the Obasanjo led government. It happened within the last 16 years of Democracy. Or has Charles Okah been freed for the crime of his brother Henry Okah?