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johnydon22:
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Oh my goodness we get more out of point...

Last i checked "Adam and Eve ate the apple not cain" so there was no way cain was among the culpable in the fruit eating..

Cain's offence was killing Abel and i am certain that "Thou shall not kill" was also given during the time of Moses..

So there isn't also reason why "thou shall not kill" was not given till the time of moses..?

This is so funny. Contradiction galore..

You said without the law there is no sin, at the same time condemn cain's sin which was committed before the law..

Common tell me more.. Show me how inces_t was not wrong before the law but murder was..

Since there was no law, if one is right then both are right but if without the law was still was wrong then both are wrong..

Read your reply before replying next time..

And again please on what moral ground was the world of Noah destroyed since there was no law before that meaning there was no evil ...

Common defend your inconsistencies more.. [/b]

johnydon22:
You still haven't shown how it is wrong.. show us how

Kenneth4u205:
because when you steal,you cause another person (victim) to experience pain and loss which is wrong

Kenneth4u205:
Genesis 4:17


And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Toyolad:
That means that God didn't determine it wrongness, who or what then did??....it also means that there are some principles followed by God himself wich are higher than Him....#still confused...we should then follow these principles independent of God's instructions.

xerxesII:
Why does god hate poor people?

Judas2013:
Why would God place a forbidden tree in the garden so close to his innocent creation and allow Satan to tempt them into eating from it, all the while looking on without doing a thing to prevent it?

xerxesII:
I hate those people who knock on your door and tell you how you need to be 'saved' or you'll 'burn'



_Stupid firemen

Kenneth4u205:
Yea there are some principles followed by God.those principles where laid down by God during the creation of the universe, even before man was created.you are wrong by saying such principles are above God.That's not true, God is not like president buhari that disobeys his own court order. God is a fair judge and always obey his own laid down principles. this principles are just like the building brick used in constructing this world.


now some of our actions here on earth either affect this principle bricks positively or negatively. those actions that will affect this bricks negatively is what we call sin. so the wrongness is determined by the effect on the principles and it was God on the other hand that created the principles. hope you got the point

Judas2013:
How many donkeys did Jesus ride in his triumphal entry into Jerusalem? Was it one donkey, like Mark, Luke and John say? Or was it two donkeys like Matthew said?

johnydon22:
[color=#990000]12Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is more than I can bear.
13Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your
presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, [size=20]and whoever finds me
will kill me.



Now the enlarged brings me to another question.. Adam and eve, Cain and Abel were supposedly the only people on earth then Cain killed Abel..

who were those Cain were referring to in the bolded.. "And whoever finds me will kill me" . who were they when we had only 3 people on earth at the moment.. ?

Kenneth4u205:
you err my brother so I will explain. the Bible only told us on Genesis 4:9 that God LATER ON asked Cain where is your brother? .take note of the phrase "later on".


Genesis 4:9
9 Later on, Jehovah said to Cain: “Where is your brother Abel?” and he said: “I do not know. Am I my brother’s guardian?”


so who told you that it was the same day that he killed Abel that God asked him that Question?.later on can mean one week,one month, 10 years, 50 years or even 100 years later because a thousand years is like a day in the sight of God.so later on can mean many years later and by then there were already more than three people on earth. hope you got that?

xerxesII:
In 1king 13:15-26, why did god trick his prophet and killed him for falling for his tricks?


Here's what 1king 13:15-26 says :

15 Then he said to him, “Come home with me and
eat bread.” 16 And he said, v“I may not return with
you, or go in with you, neither will I eat bread nor
drink water with you in this place, 17 for it was said
to me wby the word of the LORD, ‘You shall neither
eat bread nor drink water there, nor return by the
way that you came.’ ” 18 And he said to him, “I also
am a prophet as you are, and an angel spoke to me
by the word of the LORD, saying, ‘Bring him back
with you into your house that he may eat bread and
drink water.’ ” But he lied to him. 19 So he went back
with him and ate bread in his house and drank
water.
20 And as they sat at the table, the word of the
LORD came to the prophet who had brought him
back. 21 And he cried to the man of God who came
from Judah, “Thus says the LORD, ‘Because you have
disobeyed the word of the LORD and have not kept
the command that the LORD your God commanded
you, 22 but have come back and have eaten bread
and drunk water in the place of which he said to
you, “Eat no bread and drink no water,” your body
shall not come to the tomb of your fathers.’ ” 23 And
after he had eaten bread and drunk, he saddled the
donkey for the prophet whom he had brought back.
24 And as he went away xa lion met him on the road
and killed him. And his body was thrown in the road,
and the donkey stood beside it; the lion also stood
beside the body. 25 And behold, men passed by and
saw the body thrown in the road and the lion
standing by the body. And they came and told it in
the city where ythe old prophet lived.
26 And when the prophet who had brought him
back from the way heard of it, he said, “It is the man
of God who disobeyed the word of the LORD;
therefore the LORD has given him to the lion, which
has torn him and killed him, according to the word
that the LORD spoke to him.”



So tell me, why god tricked the poor guy?

Smallville10:
then how did people come into d city

Toyolad:
nicely explained sir..no wonder He exalts His words higher than His name!!!...but why did God lay down these principles in the first place rather than some others...Don't you think that if He follows or guided by some principles then He's limited by them, therefore not limitlessly powerful as we claim?

Toyolad:
nicely explained sir..no wonder He exalts His words higher than His name!!!...but why did God lay down these principles in the first place rather than some others...Don't you think that if He follows or guided by some principles then He's limited by them, therefore not limitlessly powerful as we claim?

Kenneth4u205:
I have observed that a lot of Christians don't really understand some certain part of the Bible. most of our pastors are not really enlightened or grounded in scriptures. this has resulted in higher number of atheist in our society today.some no longer believe in the Bible any more. so if you are an atheist, I'm here to answer all your questions.if you are also a Christian that need a deeper understanding of the Bible,I'm here to help.if you think that the Bible contradict itself, I m here to prove that wrong. let the questions begin

Kenneth4u205:
Genesis 4:17


And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

oglalasioux:
1. What race was Adam and Eve? What biological process made them give birth to all the races on earth?

oglalasioux:
2. Whom did the bible say should not kill Cain when God put a mark on him?

Kenneth4u205:
it is called genetic as I took my time to explain vividly below How all race came about from Adam and Eve




Take a crash course in genetics
and find out how we’re all one
race.
According to the Bible, all people
—you, your neighbors, the guy
who makes your coffee—came
from Adam and Eve ( Acts 17:26 ).
The number of humans dwindled
to the eight who were spared
aboard the giant ship we call
Noah’s Ark—when God judged
sinful humanity—and then we
grew from there (Genesis 6–10).
So, how did we end up with so
many different skin shades? It’s
probably simpler than you think,
but it will require some basic
genetics . (Don’t worry,I ’ll keep
it simple.)
Skin shade is governed by
multiple genes and is quite
complex, but for the sake of
simplicity, assume for a moment
that there are only two. Genes
come in pairs of pairs. During
reproduction, half of the genes
passed on to the offspring come
from each parent. For this
discussion, let’s assign the letters
“A” and “B” to the genes that code
for large amounts of melanin —the
brown-colored pigment in
everyone’s skin. We’ll also use
the letters “a” and “b” to designate
the genes for small amounts of
melanin.

In very dark-skinned people
groups, individuals carry AABB
genes and only produce dark-
skinned offspring. In very light-
skinned people groups,
individuals carry aabb genes and
only produce light-skinned
offspring.
If a male and female from each
group mate and produce a child,
the combination of their AABB and
aabb genes would give rise to a
child who carries the AaBb genes
for melanin and would be “middle
brown” in skin shade. Now, if two
people carrying the AaBb genes
got married and reproduced, their
children could have a wide rage of
skin colors.
If Adam and Eve were both middle
brown ( AaBb ), they would have
produced children with a wide
range of tones. Suddenly, all of us
being one race doesn’t seem so
complicated.
Okay, so that explains the different
skin tones, but how did different
people groups come to be divided
as they are now? Again, we can
find the answer in the Bible.
Doing Short Division
In Genesis 11, our ancestors
refused to obey God’s command
to spread out and fill the earth.
Instead, they started building a
monument to their insolence—you
probably know it as the Tower of
Babel . God judged our ancestor’s
disobedience by imposing
different languages on them by
their family groups. This language
confusion forced them to scatter
over the earth as God intended.
Eventually they congregated with
others who shared a common
language, and instantaneous
barriers were set up in the gene
pool. Not only would people tend
not to marry someone they
couldn’t understand, but entire
groups that spoke the same
language would have difficulty
relating to and trusting those they
did not understand. These people
groups then moved away or were
forced away from each other into
different parts of the world.
The dispersion at Babel broke the
large interbreeding group of
humanity into smaller groups with
less genetic variability. Each group
had different mixes of genes for
various physical features. All sorts
of factors modified the frequency
of certain combinations of genes,
causing a tendency for specific
characteristics to dominate. In
other words, kids and grandkids
shared the same basic genes their
ancestors took with them from
Babel
Breaking It Down
So, what’s the bottom line? The
Bible tells us, and genetics
confirms that we’re all
descendants of Adam and Eve. No
matter the color of our skin, we’re
one race . . . but this also means
we are all sinners, like our first
parents, and all in need of the
gospel in Jesus Christ

Kenneth4u205:
Adam and Eve later gave birth to sons and daughters who also gave birth to son's and daughters. God didn't drive Cain away immediately the next day after killing Abel. it was after some couple of years after the killing that God drove him away. read your Bible. the Bible used the phrase "LATER ON" which can mean many years later. by then the other children of Adam(Seth) have multiply and spread all over since the live up to 900 years then.



The early chapters of Genesis are
concerned with the origin of the
Earth and all life, including man.
The Author's intention is
seemingly to present the grand
picture first and then add certain
details throughout the rest of
Scripture; this is called
Progressive Revelation. All we are
told about Adam's offspring is that
the first son was named Cain, the
second son named Abel [Genesis
4:1-2 ], then after Abel's murder,
another son named Seth was
"begotten when Adam was 130
years old." After that, Adam "begot
sons and daughters" [Genesis
5:3-4]. This same passage also
tells us that Adam lived for 930
years [Genesis 5:5]. Therefore,
according to Scripture, Adam and
Eve's family consisted of sons
Cain, Abel and Seth, plus a
minimum of two other sons and
two daughters, giving a total of
seven children. However,
accepting that Adam, and likely
Eve, lived for 930 years, seven
children would be the minimum
number, but does this seem
reasonable?
Genesis chapter five presents the
genealogies of the descendants of
Adam where we are simply given
the father's name, his age when
he "begot" the first son and the
total number of years he lived.
With the exception of Enoch, all of
these pre-flood descendants of
Adam lived a minimum of 777
years, while most were over 900
years. In each instance, the record
simply gives the name of the first
son, then adds "and begot sons
and daughters." With these words,
the minimum number of children
per family then becomes five. But
is this really a credible number?
Living over 900 years means
living ten times longer than we do
today. Proportionately, the female
period of fecundity – today 30 to
35 years – would then be about
350 years. At a rate of only one
child every seven years, this
would result in 50 children for
Adam's immediate family.
Interestingly, two ancient books
written about the time of Christ
but not having the authority of
inspired Scripture confirm these
figures. The Book of Jubilees,
whose author is unknown, was
written in the second century B.C.
and states that Adam and Eve
were in the Garden of Paradise
seven years [p.49]. Then Eve gave
birth to her first child, Cain,
between the ages of 64-70, or the
same numbers as the age of the
Earth, anno mundi. Eve's second
child, Abel, was born seven years
later – between the years 71-77
anno mundi [p.51]. The total
number of Adam's children is not
given in this work; however, it is
found as a footnote in The Works
of Josephus where it states: "The
number of Adam's children, as
says the old tradition, was 33
sons and 23 daughters." In view
of their longevity, these appear to
be reasonable figures while it
would have to be said that,
sinners though they were, Adam
and Eve had faithfully obeyed
God's first commission to: "be
fruitful and multiply …" [Genesis
1:28].