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johnydon22:
why i told we need all the data necessary.. I do not know everything the Egyptians know about Sirius neither do i have the details of the dogon's people knowledge of Sirius to draw a conclusion.

More over possessing superior knowledge over a premise does not suggest external influence of such knowledge after all people still speculate Pyramids were built with the help of Aliens because of the architectural feats one could dub impossible with the kind of technology we imagine they had.

My position is; that we do not know how something was achieved doesn't mean aliens did, it means we don't. and needs a little more of curiosity on this subjects and consistent study to ascertain HOW..
This is exactly the point, that we do not know how they did this.. Should we then say they got help from an alien specie (Maybe assumably Zeus?)

Roman architecture i am familiar with make use of smaller blocks

plaetton:
Johnnydon22,
You're neglecting one very important piece of these mysteries.

We are not the ones suggesting that aliens did this or did that.

1. The Dogons say they were visited and taught astronomy by the " Sons of the stars ".
Why do we neglect that ?

2. The ancient Sumerians said in all their texts that whatever astronomical knowledge they had were taught to them by the Annunakis ( those who from above came).
Why do we neglect that part?

3. The Egyptians claimed their gods traversed the heavens on the " Boats(ships) Of heaven", today's equivalents of spaceships.
They also claim that pyramids were already there before the earliest Egyptian civilization.

Why do we neglect that ?

The bible says that the sons of gods( aliens of course) came down to Earth, cohabited with humans, interbred with some humans to produce giant leap offsprings, the Nefilims, Emmims, also referred to in the bible as sons of the Annakims(Annunakis ?).

The book of Enoch details the names of the leaders of the fallen angels ( of course Aliens) who came down to Earth to teach humankind agriculture, animal domestication, metallurgy, architecture, medicinal herbs, as well as social contracts, warfare etc.

When we put the architectural and building legacies, their advanced knowledge of astronomy and mathematics, and then add them to their own written testimonies, it becomes obvious that all these ancient cultures could not have been hallucinating from the same potion.

wiegraf:
So, they disclosed extremely scientifically advanced information and were accurate.

My serious (serious) question here is; why do you not worship these gods?

they've been far more impressive than yahweh, who thought the earth was the centre of the universe and had to run away from an army that was using iron (seems he didn't know how to make steel), and are African.

You never heard of them? Well, now that you have are you willing to discard false oyinbo religions and embrace your african roots?

Oh, and please, while how they got the data is debatable, it still is a lot better than what judeoxtianity offers. If you're going to make a move using 'faith' and long shots, why not this??

Plus, they're from the marine world, and have spaceships!!!



And we all know spaceships and the marine world exist. So, why not believe their tale of over the obvious yahweh charade?

vooks:
Plaetton,
What is your most convincing proof of ET presently?

UFOlogy like other crappy pseudoscience requires more faith than anything else. Faith in something is not wrong but when such a faith laden subject is christened 'science ' to legitimize it you got tons of problems

vooks:
If you are going to attempt to look intelligent, go further than Wikipedia knowing articles can be edited by anybody.
Are there any academic and peer-reviewed studies of the Dogon astronomy?

plaetton:
This is quite stuuuuupid, I must say.

Again, this obviously stems from very poor comprehension skills.

The op's position is that since we Africans are beholden to worshipping god-in-sky myths from middle East junk yards, why not learn our own closer to home god-in-sky myths from our own African brothers, the Dogons of Mali?
This was from where our discussions began.

Now, I am guessing that it is your brainwashed safe-guard mechanism that kicked in your knee-jerk reactions.

Funny that you should ask for a peer review of Dogon mystery, an African myth.

When was the last time you asked for a peer review of christian mythologies, the bedrock of your worldviews ?

Silly m.o.Ron.
Tufiakwa!

plaetton:
There you go again.

You guys have a difficult time comprehending things.

So , if I say that there exits a preponderance of evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life, for you that amounts to blind faith

Just look at the words you have mischievously thrown at me in just one post.
UFO, Ufology, Pseudoscience, Faith, Science.
Except for UFO ( which means unidentified flying object ), neither I nor others used used the other words in our discussion.
And yes, it was a discussion, NOT a debate.

It annoys me that someone of your intellect( ??) cannot see the difference between discussing possibilities, with the anecdotal evidence available, and expressing blind faith, such as you have in your skydaddy Jesus belief system.
To you half thinkers, everything is about blind belief or not.
You are incapable of analyzing, speculating and rationalizing on very simple anomalies without invoking blind faith.

It is doubly hilarious that someone like you who believes in a talking snake, talking donkey, chariots of fire with rotating wheels, pillars of smoke in the day and pillars of fire in the night, would ask for evidence of UFOs.
Funny indeed.

Let me indulge you.
My best, my bestest evidence for UFO is presently the bible.

vooks:
Primitive African bonobo
The OP has a more than passing interest in Dogon religion, he is into UFO conspiracy and obviously buys the bullshiet that aliens taught them some serious irrelevancies such as Sirius B and NOTHING else. This was my concern

plaetton:
Irrelevancies, you say ?

That's my point, dude.

This discussion is beyond your mindset, beyond your mental conditioning.

You didn't have to inject yourself into it.

Why don't you run off to Sunday school, and let adults carry on a discussion.

Reyginus:
Lolololol. Plaetton, your mouth/hand is becoming something else.

plaetton:
Irrelevancies, you say ?

That's my point, dude.

This discussion is beyond your mindset, beyond your mental conditioning.

You didn't have to inject yourself into it.

Why don't you run off to Sunday school, and let adults carry on a discussion.

johnydon22:
Oh yes you said it but it still doesn't change the fact that it had mundane effects.

supernatural event that made the natural earth (sun) stand still for natural men who are engaging in a mundane activity of warfare

It still doesn't change the fact that our earth stopped rotating on it's axis.. whether you paint it supernatural in order to make yourself feel good believing it still won't change the effects such phenomenon would have if it ever happened.

dorox:
I am in agreement with you that if the earth had stopped rotating on its axis as implied by some people understanding of that text, it would have resulted in a series of cataclysmic events that the earth might not have survived.

The earthquakes would have been so powerful that mountains would have seized to exist in an instant and red hot molten magma from the earths core would have forced its way out in a super massive pyrotechnic display of volcanic eruptions. All the oceans would have poured out their contents in an instant, creating a tsunami that would have encycled the globe.

However, there are other ways to make the sun appear to stay in one place without having to stop the earths axial rotation. One simple method is by using reflectors to illuminate Joshua's position with sun light from outer space.

Reyginus:
Cataclysmic events? How? Explain the above.

dorox:
I listed some of the events that would result from a sudden decceleration of the earth's angular velocity in the second paragraph of the post you quoted.

Reyginus:
Of course I know. I mean how? How will the things happen?

dorox:
Stopping the earth from rotating would require a tremendous amount of force to overcome the earths kinetic energy. The problem is is that the materials that the earth is made of cannot withstand that kind of force before ripping apart down to its core.

Reyginus:
What about tidal locking as a result of forces, gravitational pull, between a star and the earth?

Reyginus:
What about tidal locking as a result of forces, gravitational pull, between a star and the earth?

johnydon22:

Earth is not tidally locked, the moon is... So at the velocity of earth's axial rotation coming to a sudden halt.. dorox listed out the effects it would have on the planet...Nothing will remain as you know it..

dorox:
I don't fully understand your question, but if you are asking about the gravitational force exacted on the earth by any celestial body other than the sun and moon, then it is so insignificant that it is safe to ignor.

Reyginus:
I was simply prescribing another option that may open the room for the effects we'd get if earth is stooped. Let me explain.

You are of the opinion that that which may stop the earth's rotation is a collision with higher energy capable of breaking apart the fragile earth. I'm simply asking if necessarily we need any higher force stronger than the earth if already we know that tidal locking will do it without splitting the earth's materials? Do you get me now?

dorox:
For the earth to be tidally locked to the sun, its period of revolution will have to decrease from 365.25 days to 24 hours. I have not done the maths yet, but it is safe to say that the force that would be required to accelerate the earth to achieve that kind of orbital velocity in such a such time will completely shatter the earth into smithereens.

Reyginus:
Why do you think a repelling force and not an attractive force is possible?

dorox:
I did not get your question

Reyginus:
I mean do we really need a pushing force. A force that splits and shatters. What's wrong with a force that draws atoms closer resulting in a tidal locking?

dorox:
Can you tell me what you mean by tidal locking? I just want to make sure that we are talking about the same thing.

Reyginus:
In simple terms, it's a situation whereby a planetary body maintains a similar posture as a result of forces acting between it and another planetary body. Gravitational.

dorox:
A Planet is said to be tidally locked to its parent star if the amount of time it takes for it to make a full rotation on it's axis is exactly equal to the time it takes to revolve around the star.
The earth revolves around the sun in 365.25 days and rotates on it's axis in one day. So to be tidally locked to the sun, the earth would either slow its axial rotation such that a day becomes 365.25 days, or increase its orbital speed such that a year becomes one day.