₦airaland Forum

SamJed:
television no dey that time na

mimibright:
If you think the old testament is valid then you should equally have a second wife because God himself encouraged it, he encouraged war, sacrifice of animal blood, and slavery too. Old things are past away including the old testament.

SamJed:
for those that believe that it is your inner self that matters, the only question i have for them is, do you have to open a mango before knowing it is a mango You can't be doing a different thing outside and we claiming a different person inside....the two go hand in hand

biafransoul:
According to Christ, this is the real Christian.

Panzerfaust:
No believer is bound by the laws of Moses. Especially not gentiles like us. When the Israelites left Egypt, God gave them these laws to avoid contamination of his people by other tribes. It is funny how christians of nowadays will start picking specific laws from the OLD testament just to justify their ideologies. This is the same old testament that recommended killing of goats to wash sins away.
While the laws of the old testament are not completely irrelevant, we have to understand that we are bound by the NEW covenant.
Nigerians can be quite hypocritical when it comes to these thing. We don't question tribal marks, yet we question tattoos! What is the difference?
Also, another key issue dividing the body of christ is on whether females should wear trousers or not. What most ignorant people don't know is that TROUSERS were introduced, not primarily as male clothing, but to enable people RIDE HORSES. This made it subject to cultures over time. In most South-East Asian cultures, men wear skirts. Yet our Pastors here in Nigeria tell us that wearing trousers will take you to hell because it is "male clothing".
Back to the main issue, I won't recommend anyone getting a tattoo because of the stigmatization attached with body art. I'm also against males wearing ear-rings, not because I think its a sin, but because I know Jesus won't be happy with it.

mimibright:
you don't get it! Their are many portions of the old testament you can't imagine God can ever encourage. Example during war you are expected to kill him(the unbeliever) and take his wife and children as slaves. Some Today Muslims think it's right to kill because God encouraged it. The qoran and the bible tell the same stories in slitly different ways but you read it well u get the same picture. All am saying is if anyone thinks the old testament should be fully adhered to, then he should welcome all the evil done their as well which isn't right. Some of the things God encouraged is sickling... And morally wrong.

benji93:
Slavery ıs an act that wıll always lıve wıth man, all humans are not equal on economic grounds, so the tendency of one person becoming a slave of another is not impossible, despite this, the old testament specifies how slaves must be treated, also the old testament as opposed to what you indicated does not support polygamy, if it does not touch on it you cannot conclude that the old testament supports. In the beginning the bible says God realized, it was not appropriate for Adam to be alone, so he provided a companion, tht was one person, what more should explain God's stand of the number of spouses if not this. Polygamy in old testament was a choice. In fact if we get the entire story of the patriarchs that married more than one wife, circumstances lead them to that decision, like in the case of jacob.In Deut 17:17 God told the Isrealite Kings not to marry many wives. Even the new testament never came against polygamy clearly, it emphasized on monogamy,polygamy was the making of man, not God, so if you say the old testament allows Polygamy, the new testament does not diallow it, it emphasized on how God created it from the beginning, Jesus even made reference to the old testament. Polygamy in my opinion is a matter of choice. The bible says if your right hand will cause you to sin, cut it off, it is better to enter the kingdom of God maimed that languishing in hell full. So be wise my firend.

kaziblake:
women of Israel in the old testament put on jewelries.

If God really condemm jewelries as you claimed...the women of Israel shldnt have put them on.

Pls tell me the verse of the bible where God condemned jewelries.

CandyDiva:
please don't..u will regret it later

oyeludef:
Jesus said he didn't come to abolish d law but to fulfill it. As at d time of the apostles, the only scriptures dey were having was d old testament and dat was wat dey always referred to. Even wen Jesus resisted the devil during the three temptations, all d scripture he quoted were from the book of deuteronomy which is part of the law so y should anyone say it isn't relevant today anymore. Jesus even said not even a jot or tittle of the law will go without fulfilment dis shows dat even d comma, dots and every character of the old testament(expecially d original text) were inspired.

MicKaro:
Rubbish, Young Bingham used the bible to enslave blacks under pretense of the Gospel and what if circumstances make me marry two wives, is that a sin.

turboG:
What does the Bible say about tattoos / body piercings?

The Old Testament law commanded the Israelite’s, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28). So, even though believers today are not under the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23–25; Ephesians 2:15), the fact that there was a command against tattoos should raise some questions. The New Testament does not say anything about whether or not a believer should get a tattoo.

We do have this command in 1 Peter 3:3–4: “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.” Granted, this passage is directed at Christian women, but there is a principle here that may be apropos: namely, a person’s external appearance should not be the focus of our attention. Much effort goes into “elaborate hairstyles” and “fine clothes” and jewelry, but that’s not where a woman’s true beauty lies. In the same way, tattoos and body piercings are “outward adornment,” and we should be careful to give more effort to the development of the “inner self,” regardless of our gender.

In relation to tattoos and body piercings, a good test is to determine whether we can honestly, in good conscience, ask God to bless and use that particular activity for His own good purposes. “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). The New Testament does not specifically command against tattoos or body piercings, but it also does not give us any reason to believe God would have us get tattoos or body piercings.

An important scriptural principle on issues the Bible does not specifically address is if there is room for doubt whether it pleases God, then it is best not to engage in that activity. Romans 14:23 reminds us that anything that does not come from faith is sin. We need to remember that our bodies, as well as our souls, have been redeemed and belong to God. Although 1 Corinthians 6:19–20 does not directly apply to tattoos or body piercings, it does give us a principle: “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.” This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do and where we go with our bodies. If our bodies belong to God, we should make sure we have His clear “permission” before we “mark them up” with tattoos or body piercings.

http://www.divdel.com/blogs/2016/02/what-does-the-bible-say-about-tattoos-body-piercings/

TVTKOKO:
Every Sunday na so so bible yarns go full frontpage
mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeew!

oyeludef:
Jesus said he didn't come to abolish d law but to fulfill it. As at d time of the apostles, the only scriptures dey were having was d old testament and dat was wat dey always referred to. Even wen Jesus resisted the devil during the three temptations, all d scripture he quoted were from the book of deuteronomy which is part of the law so y should anyone say it isn't relevant today anymore. Jesus even said not even a jot or tittle of the law will go without fulfilment dis shows dat even d comma, dots and every character of the old testament(expecially d original text) were inspired.

Vanquay:
The old Testament condones slavery and Polygamy,hope you are in support of that too

princebaby:
May God 4give the world amen

mimibright:
can your sister imagine Jesus piercing his ear? Because Jesus can't so she shouldn't

oyeludef:
the portions of the old testament dat needed to be corrected were corrected by Jesus during his several sermons and dey are recorded.

help3852:
hahaha, it is not a sin, but Jesus Will not be happy....


pls don't misinterpret the bible the new testament did not come to destroy the old testament. We must be very careful

promisechuks:
Sorry bro, all has been fulfilled and the laws are now abolished. No atom of law is guiding us now.

The fact is that you quote that verse still you blind yourself of seeing "TILL ALL BE FULFILLED". Which means; at the moment everything is fulfilled, then the law will be abolished immediately.


But bro, know it today, that ALL WAS FULFILLED at the cross. Immediately jesus said "it is finished" and gave up the ghost, the bible tells us, the presence of the shekinah glory of God which was in the holies of holies' chamber of the temple disappeared, which gave everyone the grace to access God's presence anytime and not to access God's temple by keeping laws and ordinances. That was when the law became ABOLISHED.

see the problem many christians are having; they think that NT is a continuation of the OT, while it is a REPLACEMENT and not a continuation.

Please,bear in mind that adding a new wine to an old wine makes everything bad and as such corrupted, this is no different from the law and gospel of grace. If the OT is perfect, there will be no need for NT.

Another problem is that, they try to mix law with grace, before they can be righteous before God, thereby, corrupting the whole righteousness wish later pushes them to hell. The GREATEST INSULT to grace is to add law to it, indirectly meaning that christ's work on the cross is incomplete, imperfect and that jesus didn't do it all. AN INSULT!

And they end up trying to earn eternal life that has been freely given.
Grab grace.

mimibright:
okay good, now this your own believe of Christianity . many other people believe you look the way you like but your inner self is what God looks at. This is the problem with religion today, so much conflict and too many church's.

oyeludef:
nice hearing ur view on this brother. Well dis is where many grace preachers today av gone wrong. The law isn't limited to wat God handed down to moses in d book of exodus but the whole of the Torah and even the historical books and prophets are continuation law. Now tell me if its everything in even the Torah dat has been fulfilled? Has moses prophesy in Deutschland 33:2 come to pass?
Listen to Peters sermon on d day of Pentecost. Wat is d time of restitution He spoke about? Act chapter 3
18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. (Compare)

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities
. How can you then say the law has been abolished wen a large part of it is yet to be fulfilled? Have you been glorified? Have ur mortal put on immortality? Has death and hell been cast into d laske of fire? Several other questions are there dat i know you can't answer. Jesus came to give us salvation by which we have grace to fulfill the law. Abraham was a gentile like you and I and he experienced grace by having faith in God before d law(circumcision) was given to him. Today we experience salvation completely by belief in Christ and we are empowered to fulfill the law knowingly or unknowingly. Why will Jesus b coming again for the millennial reign?
I used to be a disciple of Joseph prince and I know d gospel of grace very very well. If you are telling me dat d new testament is a deviation from the old, wat did paul mean wen he said unto the Jews were committed the Oracles of God? As for you saying d shekinah glory left d temple wen Christ died, u r partly correct but I believed He left long before then but just announced its Leaving dat way dat day and dat He won't be coming back but now He resides in men otherwise, it won't av been possible for d several kings who invaded d Jewish temple and carted away with all d valuables. No one would even dare do dat to Moses tabernacle talkless of Solomons temple where the shekinah glory dwelt.