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| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by joseph1013: 6:12pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
My question for this list is: do we need this many players for selections? This is tantamount to creating confusion. I wish Siasia all the best. I hope this selection does not reflect what will be his hallmark throughout his tenure. How Aminu Umar, Aaron Samuel and Fanendo Adi deserve callups ahead of Success, I don't understand. How all the defenders portrayed in the list deserve a callup ahead of Leon Balogun is beyond me. Just look at the guy's performance against Bayern last night. The defeated Bayern at home. I will wait for subsequent lists to know what's up. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 6:21pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Imagine! Juwon Oshaniwa over Taye Taiwo at that time he was in the form his life. After the guy entered, burkina-faso almost scored. My heart was in my mouth. Thank God we later won. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:23pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
joseph1013:Are you saying Coach Keshi did nothing good after the AFCON? That man felt the full weight of everything wrong with the NFF and those guys were always faultless because the axe fell on Coach Keshi's head. I keep repeating, we were getting there. The last three games of Coach Keshi showed we terminated him and a wrong time. We scored seven goals in our last three games, conceded three, won two and drew one. I am not saying he was excellent but only geniuses can navigate through treacherous paths and deliver results. How many list his sighting of Aaron Samuel. His infusion of Hope Akpan and Aluko, how many hail him for his taking Mikel to a more creative role. What of the Italians injuring players to win. He was not close to what you guys make him. Coach Keshi is the best since Westerhoff and it was not only due to the AFCON. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:25pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness: Na wa. Oshaniwa was one of the brilliant choices of Coach Keshi. If it is that one, you have no point. That boy did well. How come subsequent coaches never called Taiwo. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:26pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
I asked the same question(s). Isn't 22 home-based players too much?? He invited 20 foreign-based. Why not pick the few homebased you wanna work with? How all those homebased will train for 2 weeks-plus and still be replaced by the foreign based one week to the game and eventually on match day shows there's no need for 22 home-based players in camp. And seriously, BIGGEST SHOCK OF THE DAY IS THE ABSENCE OF LEON BALOGUN, Nigeria's finest/best central Defender in Europe currently. Isaac Success' omission is another notable mention. I pray the other "very good players" (not every one on that list is a super class-act) in the list get the results for us. It's a relatively good list but still got certain big question marks. joseph1013: |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 6:30pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:After Keshi left him to expire? Which coach never called Taiwo if not Oga Keshi? You mean Oliseh era? Haba! The man don dey expire na. ![]() |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by wayodude(m): 6:41pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd:The stats show Amuzie has played 2 competitive games all season on the other hand Madu has hardly missed any game for his table topping team. Adi plays in the MLS and they are currently off season I think? Where did the coaches see him play to gauge his match fitness? If we were one nil down with 5 mins to go, will Siasia be more confident looking on his bench seeing an inform Ujah eager to get on it or Fanendo Adi from Portland Timbers? How do you rationalise the selection of Aminu Umar ahead of John Ogu who has been an ever-present and energetic midfield enforcer for the Isreali League Leaders? Even selecting Nosa Igiebor, Hope Akpan, Raheem Lawal would have been fairer. Balogun doesn't get a place but Okonkwo does?? At the moment Naijas best defence would/should comprise Omeruo RB(yes he's better there!) Oboabona and Balogun CB and Madu LB! I don tire jare, I'll leave matter... Barman!! Another star for this table!! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by NRIPRIEST(m): 6:42pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness:I have been watching you for a while and now it's safe for to say you are a tribalist....Yea,you are a Yoruba and you have problem with Igbo people. Fix your mind,nigga! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 6:43pm On Mar 03, 2016*. Modified: 9:48pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:When did he start to use Aluko? Was it when he was inform or...? When Aluko was in the form of his life, in Rangers, Keshi ignored him but when he eventually invited him, Keshi benched him in the first match, played him for only 2 minutes to the end of the match and finally dropped him from the list because he doesn't want Aluko to spoil market for the player he was busy promoting. Uzoenyi. Chai! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 6:45pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
NRIPRIEST:Yes! I have problems with mediocre players. No be my fault na. Even my tribes men will not be spared. What about you? ![]() |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:52pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Hahahahaha...... Me sef don tire.... Balogun and Success are the biggest omissions from the list. Kingsley Madu also. I rate Madu higher than all the left-backs invited (maybe apart from Echiejile). Meanwhile, uhmm.... Aminu Umar is a forward not a midfielder. John Ogu is a midfielder just like Raheem lawal, Hope Akpan and Igiebor. So Aminu wasn't picked ahead of Ogu. #smiles Meanwhile, how many bottles have you had before I came in? #smiles wayodude: |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by NRIPRIEST(m): 6:56pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness:I feel like when it comes to positions that require competence tribal sentiments should be trashed. Moreover,this section is one of the most civil and sanest section on this forum and we all wish it remains so. I respect every contributor including and pray we get over our tribal issues someday in this country. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 7:07pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
NRIPRIEST:Bros, i view thinks based on merit and not tribal sentiments. Even if na my brother messed up i will speak against him. Football is not about sentiment it about passion and i don't want somebody to spoil my Eagles. And so far, I have demonstrated it here several times but on how you arrived at that.... I hope you are not reading my comments through the lens of.... You know now. I will stop here. Have a nice day. Thanks |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:13pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: I think Success omission has to do with him not playing regularly up front. He plays on the wings in a lot of his games. The coaches might feel we need people who play naturally upfront. Ighalo and Aaron Samuel play upfront naturally. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by wayodude(m): 7:14pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd:Oh yea he is a striker, which even pisses me off more! So his selection implies he is in better form than Brown Ideye, Stanley Ohawuchi, Kayode Olanrewaju, Blessing Eleke etc abi? Even AS Roma's young Umar Sadiq? Issorait I dey vex well well....that's how the other local 'mumu' coach took Shola Ameobi to Brazil and left inform Ezekiel Imoh, Ujah, Eneramo, Ideye, Obinna etc at home. Any fool will have noticed that Emenikes goal drought with Naija started when his partnership with Ideye was broken. Not naija coaches though ![]() |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by AIG07: 7:42pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
I just check tru d list! I'm as amazed as every other person here is. Good list but are these men d best d country has? Siasia's needs to justify d reason he excluded d likes of Isaac Success, established n in form Leon Balogun(our current captain of defence)... We all hope those invited do us proud. But the fact still remains that Nigeria soccer is synonymous to Nigeria politics where godfatherism is been played out. I don't want to criticise sia1 now-'patience'. Who knows may be that team list is nff influenced. That is why a foreign grade A coach will still remain d best. cos de can't be easily manipulated like d indigenous ones! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 7:58pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
AIG07:The Leon Balogun case though. And it is more dissapointing when u see names like Oboroakpo and Oduduwa on d list. Players he may end up nt fielding. Well, I trust Siasia. I believe he must have a very cogent reason for nt inviting Balogun |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Orkpekyandega(m): 9:07pm On Mar 03, 2016*. Modified: 9:23pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness: @ the bolded. Seriously you mean Stephen Keshi invited these guys; Aaron Samuel and Michael Babatunde because he perceived his protector was a gunner? Very funny indeed. Who was his protector then? |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Orkpekyandega(m): 9:37pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Forgiveness how many years did it take Stephen Keshi to win us AFCON with very harsh working conditions from his employers. How many did it take his foreign counterparts to do same with better working conditions from the same employers? |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:43pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Orkpekyandega:Haba! You know na. ![]() |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Orkpekyandega(m): 9:57pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness: May be you want me to guess; Goodluck Jonathan? See as of the time Keshi invited the duo, no body ever believed he was going to loose his election so don't go there. The truth of the matter is that, Keshi managed to get the best out of the little we had at the time. If he had relied on the so called foreign stars or NFF list eh, we would have had to wait for another century to win the AFCON. Keshi was one man that knew how to get the results with his formula untill NFF interfered. Bros we never had the stars to win AFCON, but Keshi made it with them. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 10:01pm On Mar 03, 2016*. Modified: 10:23pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Orkpekyandega:Hmm! There is a difference btw winning with class and winning with wuruwuru. You can ask Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea and Brazil. They will tell you. Can you cross your heart and swear you didn't complained or hissed when you watched Eagles played the first 3 matches in the last Nations Cup. Maybe you have forgotten because of the trophy. If collecting 5 million at the end of every month is harsh working condition, i wonder wetin hawker go come talk. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 10:04pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Orkpekyandega:Ok na, nobody believed but Oga Keshi don think am. He is a politician coach. ![]() |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by wayodude(m): 10:12pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Hahahaha my guy are you sure you know what you're talking about here? Monday who??! Philippe Troussier aka the White witch doctor qualified Nigeria for the 1998 World Cup after taking over from Shuaibu Amodu. We qualified for France 98 with a game to spare! Na Wa for u o. I think we should all give abit of background about ourselves and football history supporting naija. I'm 35. My first game Watching Nigeria was in the Algiers 90 AFCON when we lost 5 - 1 against the host. From that point on I watched the super eagles go full cycle from rubbish to world beaters back to rubbish... I have lived outside Nigeria since I was a teenager but Nigeria is still my team. It's in my blood! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Orkpekyandega(m): 10:30pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
forgiveness:We were not blessed with the stars the former(foreign) Coach had na. Remember with this same Wuruwuru he led us to the round of 16 which Lars Lagerback could not, despite the huge sums he collected from the NFF. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 10:40pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Orkpekyandega:Well, I don tire 4 HP football maybe you enjoy it but as for me. Mbanu! |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:44pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
wayodude:It is sad I can not do a full research on this due to lack of Internet details. Maybe I am missing some things but look at this list of Nigerian coaches. Clemens Westerhof (1989–94) Shaibu Amodu (1994–95) Johannes Bonfrere (1995–96) Shaibu Amodu (1996–97) Phillipe Troussier (1997) Monday Sinclair (1997) Bora Milutinović (1997–98) http://www.gongnews.net/amodu-makes-world-mark-never-lost-a-world-cup-qualifier-game/ Sinclair took over from Trousierre and our team improved. Mind you, I lived in the same building with Coach Monday Sinclair. Our flats were side by side. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by wayodude(m): 10:48pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Nah bro, forget Wikipedia. I'm almost certain Troussier qualified the team for the World Cup in 98 BEFORE getting fired. I think Sinclair was part of his back room staff. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:58pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Just in Siasia snubs Leon Balogun and Isaac Success. Adi was invited though. |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Orkpekyandega(m): 10:58pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
[b][size=14pt] 18 foreign coaches who have managed the Eagles previously Posted by timmynaijaon February 19, 2010 at 12:08pm [/size] As the search for a foreign coach for the Super Eagles hots up, we examines the performance of 18 foreign coaches who have managed the Eagles previously. - John Finch (England) 1949 He led Nigeria to its first international game against Sierra Leone on October 8, 1949 when both countries were under British administration. Nigeria won 2-0. He handed over to Daniel Anyiam who became the first indigenous coach ofthe national team. Rating: 7/10. -Les Courtier (England) 1956-1960 The biggest win Nigeria ever recorded took place under his guidance when the Red Devils beat Dahomey (now Benin) 10-1 on November 28, 1959. Rating: 6/10. -Moshe Jerry Beit haLevi (Israel) 1960 -61 In 1960, Jerry received an offer to coach the Nigerian national team. In his first match against Ghana, Nigeria was beaten 3-0 in Lagos and the press called for Beit haLevi to be fired. He decided to stick with the job and helped build a better Nigerian side. Rating: 5/10. - George Vardar (Hungary) 1961-1963 Under him, Nigeria suffered tremendously in the hands of Ghana and Sudan. He left the post for Daniel Anyiam who had his second stint with the team. Rating: 3/10. -Jorge Penna (Brazil) 1963, 1972-1973 His first coming was in 1963 when he managed the team for one year before he managed the team between 1972 and 1973. Rating: 5/10. -Joseph Ember (Hungary) 1965-1968 UNDER Ember, Nigeria failed to qualify for the Nations Cup in Tunisia in 1965 and in Ethiopia in 1968. His assistant, Peter ‘Eto‘ Amaechina, took over from him and was in charge of the team from 1969-1970. Rating: 2/10. -Karl-Heinz Marotzke (Germany) 1973-1974 He came to Nigeria after managing the Black Stars of Ghana between 1968 and 1970. His first major role with the team was between 1970 and 1972. But barely nine months after he had applied for the job on April 21, 1970, he was sidelined. He was redeployed to conduct coaching courses in the states of the federation while Penna returned to the team. The Eagles were eliminated by Senegal in the preliminary competition for the 1972 Munich Olympic Games under the guidance of Penna. He remained in the country until he was named a member of the NFA in 1973. Rating: 4/10. -Othman Calder (Germany) 1974 Following the sacking of the NFA board led by Edwin Kentebe and the disbandment of the team and its technical crew, the new administration hired Calder in December 1974 to prepare the team for the next Nations Cup. His first assignment was to screen the over 90 players that had been selected from the National Sports Festival held in August of the same year. But in the following year, the coach suddenly abandoned his post and left the country. His employers, the National Sports Commission, had been unable to meet his demands which included an official car, a house and a monthly salary of N1, 700. Rating: 2/10. -Jelisavic ‘Tiki’ Tihomir (Yugoslavia) 1974-1978 Popularly called Father Tiko, the Slav narrowly missed taking the national team to the Argentina ‘78 World Cup after Godwin Odiye scored an own goal in the match against Tunisia to send Nigeria out of the race. Rating: 7/10. -Otto Glória (Brazil) 1978-1982 The former Portugal coach guided Nigeria through the 1980 Africa Cup of Nations, which the team won in the final in Lagos with a 3-0 win over Algeria. He left this position after poor performances at the 1982 Nations Cup in Libya. Rating 8/10. -Gottlieb Göller (Germany) 1981 He came to Africa managing the Togolese national team in 1972. He was later hired by the German construction company, Julius Berger, to coach its football team in Lagos between 1979 and 1981. He was engaged to coach the Nigerian team after a 2-0 loss in Lagos to Algeria in the first leg at the last qualifying series for Spain ‘82 World Cup. Gloria had been sidelined in the return leg tie but the team lost again 2-1 in Constantine, Algeria. Goller later left the country to work in Mozambique and then Togo. Rating: 4/10. -Manfred Hoener (Germany) 1988-1989 He came in after the NFA had experimented with coaches Adegboyega Onigbinde, Chris Udemezue and Patrick Ekeji, who had failed to win any major tournament. He began his coaching career in 1972 and worked in Austria, Turkey, Egypt and Thailand before coming to Nigeria. His arrival in 1988 was as controversial as his disappearance later that year. He led Nigeria to a second place finish at Maroc‘88 Nations Cup. He was regarded more as a physical trainer than a tactician. Rating: 6/10. ................... Cc: forgiveness pls you can access the foreign coaches up till date.... [/b] |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Nobody: 11:05pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Isaac Success scored the second goal for Granada tonight as they defeated Sporting Gijon 2-0... |
| Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:07pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
wayodude:I know I am mixing up some things but man, for you to ask Monday Who? Shows you missed a great Legend. Coach Monday Sinclair is the true Guardiola of Africa. Having his Sharks team playing Breathtaking Possessive Football before Arsene Wenger and Guardiola. Look at this excerpt. ROUSSIER: He has been under fire despite putting a 100 per cent record with two wins in as many matches and placing the Eagles within 90 minutes of a place at the World Cup finals. The Frenchman is very bitter about undue interferences with training programmes by the sports ministry. "I don't have anything against Enugu as camp for Eagles" says Troussier. He prefers Soleni the camping site of Abidjan-based Asec Mimosas. But later said, he wants the Eagles to train in Lagos. Meanwhile, as Troussier stayed back at home in France, the Nigeria Football Association (NFA) has issued an ultimatum which expired last Friday for players to report in Enugu or face the music. SINCLAIR: If Troussier decides to quit (as he has earlier threatened), Chief coach Monday Sinclair should take charge of the Eagles against the Harambee Stars of Kenya. Are you panicked? Oh, it should be apprehension, as according to Monaco striker, Victor Ikpeba: "Nigerian Europe-based players don't respect local coaches." EAGLES: The Eagles have outrightly rejected camping in Enugu and decided to train in Lagos for the match against Kenya. Eagles' captain Uche Okechukwu said: "We'll stay back in Lagos to train for the Kenyan match rather than go through the hassles of finding our way to Enugu." Another blow to the sports establishment? NFA: The infuriated soccer house went into action Thursday passing a stern 24 hours ultimatum to Phillipe Troussier. "Return or face the axe." NFA's mouth-piece, Austin Mgbolu apparently annoyed with 'undue' media criticisms like: ominous headlines ... Nwobodo Chases Troussier Away (Champion): Troussier At Large(Concord); Minister Goes Solo Over Troussier's Successor (Punch); Sinclair To Lead Eagles ... Ministry, NFA Ignore Troussier (Vanguard), etc. said the football association accused of indolence have resolved that the decision to camp in Enugu is final and irrevocable. -- https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/soc.culture.nigeria/2FWgj0HeWh4 |
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