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@OP, U and ur likes really need to stop trying now because u are actually making things worse with ur depraved reasoning. WTF has Ese being a Virgin got to do with d whole case?? I really don't blame ur or ur likes but rather our so-called leaders especially d moslems who seem to hide behind their religion to break every law in the Constitution. The Sharia court, the Emir and even some religious elders in the community were all involved and yet u ask why people blame Islam?? I guess we should blame Amadioha for not letting his thunder strike people anymore.

chigoizie7:
Nope, where the problems lies is the fact that this very case of kidnap and subsequent rape is not peculiar to just yunusa, there are soo many other related cases.

Have u ever heard of aiding and abating of crimes? When u aid and abate, u are as guilty and the 1st offender.

Now, who are the custodians of Islam? Who married ese to yunusa? When d case was initially reported by ese's mother and other victims in such circumstances to the religious clerics and the chief of d clan, what did they do?
Are u telling me they didn't know that what ese did was a crime against FG and humanity?
Who converted ese to Islam? I bet an imam did. And since an imam saw nothing wrong with what yunusa and his likes did or were doing, then it is attributed to their religious beliefs including the imam and every other person who knew that such things have been happing since time immemorial but choose to keep quiet, probably because it conforms with the doctrines of their faiths.



My brother, let us call a spade a spade and stop calling it a shovel maybe because they are used for similar things.


Most of the people of islamic faiths condemning yunusa's acts are only doing it because it has been blown open. Why are they all speaking up all of a sudden?
I am quiet sure that the hausa's that took ese's mum to the north when ese disappeared knew what yunusa was upto as it is a norm, I am also aware that many people are present when one conducts a marriage rites, I am also positive that those people present knew what yunusa did considering the fact that ese has to be converted from Christianity to islam, I am also aware that yunusa has family relatives and friends, they are also aware of what yunusa did. But what did they do? They kept mute, why? Because they saw it as a norm, and what is d definition of norms? It is a principle guiding a group of people, it also associated with their way of life.

So, my brother u have no moral and legal right as to tell me not to associate islam with evil, because that is simply what they are.


How do u know that someone is hausa, igbo, yoruba? It is because of their common traits, ranging from their food,language, mode of dressing, greeting and all that.

So, when I see a group of people doing a similar thing, the right thing to do is to associate them with what they were doing.


My brother where were u b4 ese's case? Let's not forget about yerima's case, because so many islamic clerics and powerful nigerians from the northern divide, probably muslims justified his acts.
There was another case where a young girl had to poison d estranged husband for dis very act and confidently pleaded guilty.

Assume d islamic clerics and other custodians of Islam condemned yerima and d girls case, yunusa wouldn't been in this case now, so, na dem dem

Like I will always say.

Islam is a religion of devils by the devils and for the devils. Nothing can change that.



And igbo adage says, "emekaria otutu ihe karia ugboro abuo m'obu ato, oburu omenala"

Here omenala means culture, and culture is the peoples way of life.

Ask an igbo friend to help u translate my adage, I know u have one
And den, u,op and your likes have d guts to castigate d man who brought this whole mess to d open, what pathetic stup!dity and imbecil!ty?



Who asked yunusa not to give his own verson of the story? Punch? The man? Or ese's family?

Since your ilk can come out to justify yunusa and den rubbish d man who made it open, why have u both refused to channel that energy into making yunusa to speak up so that people will hear his own side? NOOO, u guys didn't, that is unadulterated hypocrisy.

My friend it seems like your imbecilic brain is incapable of learning anything from the OP's post or mine.

First of all, no prima facie case of abduction, marriage, forceful conversion and rape can and has been established against Yunusa but simply mere allegations without supportive evidence (one of the points the OP was clearly pointing out).

Didn't you listen to the audio tape where she admitted to voluntarily travelling to Kano and converting to Islam?
So how can you say it was kidnapping when it clearly is a case of elopement by two lovers and not abduction (shey you know the difference)?
Similarly, how can you say it was forceful conversion when the girl herself was clearly saying otherwise?
Why was she (in the video) protesting against being handed over to the police without her Yunusa - does that suggest forceful abduction to you?

Even the issue of her age was suspicious, lying she was 17yrs instead of 13 or 14yrs suggested complicity and deception on her part in order she may prolong her stay with her lover, Yunusa - don't say she was completely innocent and didn't contribute anything towards her predicament.

No, the authorities/Yunusa's friends did not keep quiet or did nothing but rather contributed to her return; starting from his friends who informed the mother about the elopement - otherwise how was she able to know where to search for her daughter?
Yunusa's father was the 1st to oppose and do something about it by reporting the matter to the village head, who in turn took it to the Emir, who subsequently ordered for the repatriation of the girl back to her parents through the Hisba Council and State Police AIG.
Unfortunately, there was a delay by both the police and their counterpart, the Hisba council, due to concerns for the girl's safety because she did not want to go home out of alleged fear from being killed or severely beaten by her parents/community for running away (with a Hausa Boy) and converting to another religion (it is possible she may have been lying to this). Nonetheless, they still had to be sure and therefore thoroughly investigated the matter in order to ascertain she would not come into harms way - meanwhile the Emir was unaware, he was under the impression his earlier order for return of the girl had been carried out; so how ppl be faulting this man, I just don't know (BTW, its aiding and abetting NOT abating).

These are some of the details the Christian dominated biased press completely failed to mention so that you guys could continue to celebrate your renown bigotry with wanton abandon.


An unbiased press would know where to find Yunusa in prison where he was detained and to charged to court just as they were easily able to reach out to Ese's parents for their one sided story.

Since you agree with stereotyping based on tribe and religion then I am sure you would equally agree with the following:
Well because Igbos are CANNIBALS (don't argue, even last year police closed down a restaurant selling human meat in Igboland) and predominantly Catholics; its probably ok to presume that their cannibalism must be connected with Christianity in which they practice the taking of holy communion, the wine and bread symbolizing the consumption of the blood and flesh of Jesus - yeah, how do you like that?

dealslip:
I am still trying to detect the shifting of goal post or the fear of facing facts. You said Rebbecca and Mary were married off as minors just to buttress your point that Christian/South should stop flogging the issue that Ese is a minor. I made you understand that writings on google by anybody doesnt make it proof that those characters in the bible were indeed married off as minors. I guess it is safe to say The Prophet is a paedophile since there are also writings on google to justify it. The OP wants to know why Islam was dragged into the matter as per the 'biased' interview with the muslim cleric. I made you understand that since the emir, sharia court and hisbah police were all involved in the matter then Islam cannot be separated from the case. I know you understand what I am saying but you pretend not. I guess Taqqiya has to be employed at this point. You are merely distracting the core of the matter.

You were shifting the goal post because you were evading the fact that these evidences are available and accessible through google.
If you regard the prophet as a pedophile then it equally holds that Joseph was also a pedophile for marrying Mary at between 12 -14yrs (the customary age for Jewish to marry in biblical times) and similarly for the Christian god who impregnated her to later bear him a son, Jesus Christ.
It is equally correct to hold that since the former Pope was involved in the much publicized cover up of the institutionalize wanton rape of young boys and girls by Catholic priests under their care throughout the Christian world then pedophilia and homosexuality cannot be separated from Christianity - yeah, how do you like that?

superstar1:
Useles almajiri take your time to educate the likes of Yunusa in your barbaric communities and reform your mentally sick people that are practising ''Abduction islam'', a new version of paedophillic and depraved islam.

I have enough bowls to give out to wandering homeless abductors like you, for you to beg for your daily bread with ease.

Abeg park well somewhere. Human beings are talking, goro-chewing cattle is poking his nose. Mscheeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww.

Look at you: a cannibalistic bastard, product of baby factory, a descendant of one of the 99.9% prostitutes from that erosion ravaged infertile cursed red soiled axis of beasts from the evil east.
What could be more barbaric than a supposed human being that eats its own kind?
And you have the audacity to call somebody barbaric - what an irony!

I will read the rest of this article in the morning with clear head, cause I'm feeling drowsy now and want to go to bed.

However, he said

''Allah said in the Glorious Quran, “O you who believe, you are forbidden to marry women against their will” (Quran 4:19)

If Allah said all that, that means you Muslims do not believe in the Koran.

Honestly you are a f00l and you are full of sh1t

So you wrote this long useless epistle all because you are looking for you to "prosecute"? Oloshi buruku.

Rather than thank punch for bringing this abduction to light and securing the release of the girl, you chose to condemn them and their editor. You've are just a sentence away from asking your religious leader or calling boko haram to place a fatwa on his head.

I won't be surprised if you are a paedophile yourself - enticing and sleeping with under aged children. I spit on you!! You are a disgraceful piece of sh1t. Leave punch and it's editor alone and face the issue at hand. No woman - whether a minor or adult should be taken away from her family and friends, held incommunicado and then impregnated or converted without their knowledge, consent or approval. This is 2016 and nigeria. You can't even try such nonsense in Saudi Arabia where your holy land is located.

It is posts like yours that do nothing to the plummeting reputation your religion has across the world and continue to give your religion a very, very, very bad name.

ItsMeAboki:
Similarly, how can you say it was forceful conversion when the girl herself was clearly saying otherwise?
Why was she (in the video) protesting against being handed over to the police without her Yunusa - does that suggest forceful abduction to you?

Even the issue of her age was suspicious, lying she was 17yrs instead of 13 or 14yrs suggested complicity and deception on her part in order she may prolong her stay with her lover, Yunusa - don't say she was completely innocent and didn't contribute anything towards her predicament.

so you think the statement you may have made her record while you sharpened your daggars will stand in a court of Nigerian law?

have you heard that "ignorance is no excuse"?
1) the case is that Yunusa kidnapped a minor.
Is that true?
2) Yunusa's father aided and abetted Yunusa in holding the kidnapped minor.
is this true?
3) Yunusa's village head provided support for Yunusa to imprison and rape the kidnapped minor.
is that true.
4) The Sharia Council aided and abetted in the criminal enterprise of kidnapping, raping, impregnating, and attempted to cover up the crime by changing the identity of the victim from Ese to Aisha! They even issued a certificate of Islamization!!!
Is this true?
5) The Sultan of Kano frustrated all police efforts to help the mother recover her child to the extent the police had to flee the palace multiple times in fear of their lives!
is this also not true?

@poster
Is this supposed to be a fatwah against Ayakonla
May you and your small children, especially girls ever be raped, molested, abducted, and abused in the name of your own god, amen!

ItsMeAboki:
You were shifting the goal post because you were evading the fact that these evidences are available and accessible through google.
If you regard the prophet as a pedophile then it equally holds that Joseph was also a pedophile for marrying Mary at between 12 -14yrs (the customary age for Jewish to marry in biblical times) and similarly for the Christian god who impregnated her to later bear him a son, Jesus Christ.
It is equally correct to hold that since the former Pope was involved in the much publicized cover up of the institutionalize wanton rape of young boys and girls by Catholic priests under their care throughout the Christian world then pedophilia and homosexuality cannot be separated from Christianity - yeah, how do you like that?

I know you understand my point but you are merely pretending to be offended and forming prejudice. My point all along is that your 'evidence 'of minor marriage in the bible was gotten from google and not the bible itself so it doesnt hold water. If you cannot point to the particular verse in the bible, it means you have no point. From the way you write it is very obvious that you are learned therefore comprehension challenge isnt the issue here. I made you understand that the fact that something was written about the prophet on google doesnt make it true if it cant be traced to the quran or hadiths.

ItsMeAboki:
Look at you: a cannibalistic bastard, product of baby factory, a descendant of one of the 99.9% prostitutes from that erosion ravaged infertile cursed red soiled axis of beasts from the evil east.
What could be more barbaric than a supposed human being that eats its own kind?
And you have the audacity to call somebody barbaric - what an irony!

What is "this thing" saying? A mere product of paedophilic copulation.

Get a brain, you are playing above your league. Find your way to your little girls abducting sharia court and be communicating in Arabic.

Supported Op u're on point.

These guys are trying so hard to convince me they are nothing but extremists

dealslip:
I know you understand my point but you are merely pretending to be offended and forming prejudice. My point all along is that your 'evidence 'of minor marriage in the bible was gotten from google and not the bible itself so it doesnt hold water. If you cannot point to the particular verse in the bible, it means you have no point. From the way you write it is very obvious that you are learned therefore comprehension challenge isnt the issue here. I made you understand that the fact that something was written about the prophet on google doesnt make it true if it cant be traced to the quran or hadiths.

LOL, its obvious that you do not understand the workings of the internet in general and that of google as a search engine in particular, and most importantly the essence of my earlier posts.

Well google itself is not a compendium of knowledge holding facts and information on its own, like a reference book e.g. encyclopedia, dictionary, Bible, that has been authored by somebody.
It merely provides you with a direct link to the source of the information which you wish to access in various stored formats (books, magazines, newspapers, research publications, data banks etc) throughout the world.

Therefore if you wish to e.g. find out the age at which Mary was betroth to Joseph, all you need to do is type that inquiry into google and it will automatically provide you with the direct links to that information - try it yourself and see.

In the case of the above information, I never claimed it was written in the bible, but inferred that it had been thoroughly researched and concluded she was betrothed at the age of between 12-14 yrs based on the biblical custom and norms for Jewish girls at that time.

As for the age of sexual consent at the Vatican, well that is still in place as a law till today - shey you know that the Vatican is considered and treated as an independent country (within Italy) governed according to canon laws under the Pope.

These are verifiable facts - note, not every true fact about Christianity must be written in the bible.

superstar1:
What is "this thing" saying? A mere product of paedophilic copulation.

Get a brain, you are playing above your league. Find your way to your little girls abducting sharia court and be communicating in Arabic.

Copulation!
Yes indeed, the mechanism of your birth as a result of a village stud being paid to fvck and impregnate your prostitute mother at a baby factory.
Born out of wedlock, a bastard without a known father and home training - its no wonder that many of your ilk are criminally inclined and morally challenged.
Cannibal, crawl back to your den and chew more on some human bones.

tit:
so you think the statement you may have made her record while you sharpened your daggars will stand in a court of Nigerian law?

have you heard that "ignorance is no excuse"?
1) the case is that Yunusa kidnapped a minor.
Is that true?
2) Yunusa's father aided and abetted Yunusa in holding the kidnapped minor.
is this true?
3) Yunusa's village head provided support for Yunusa to imprison and rape the kidnapped minor.
is that true.
4) The Sharia Council aided and abetted in the criminal enterprise of kidnapping, raping, impregnating, and attempted to cover up the crime by changing the identity of the victim from Ese to Aisha! They even issued a certificate of Islamization!!!
Is this true?
5) The Sultan of Kano frustrated all police efforts to help the mother recover her child to the extent the police had to flee the palace multiple times in fear of their lives!
is this also not true?

Yes indeed, I've also heard that ignorance is bliss - for which it seems you have been condemned to wallow in till eternity, as you obviously seem to lack the necessary intellect to appreciably comprehend the finer issues at hand.