1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
I cover up my face for you. I feel so ashamed of you. Your write up shows how depraved you are!
1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
You can be riding camel as well.
See what the stone age wanna be writer is saying!!!! You are just part of teh people suffering from inferior complex and that simply believes they must keep living in the stone age because of the advantage it confers on them over women. It is nothing but INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
You should be ashamed of yourself for looking for being desperate to look for anything to defend your fantasy of being in bed with a mere child.
Hmmm you even have their time, last week i wasted so much mb trying to enlighten the bigots that they should leave Islam out of it, Yunusa should be held responsible for his actions not Islam. The unrepentant bigots hurled all sorts of insults at me for most of my comments.
Remember u guys call all igbos ipods on here. Remember u guys call anyone against some apc policies a pdp member? So that's how the blame game works pls get used to it.
Having served in the north opened my eyes to this Op's religion. two boys were doing exam malpractise with their koran cos they were writing IRS,after all the warnings by the supervisor which fell on deaf ears.The supervisor decided to fling their holy book,the next action by this two young boys was to beat the teacher and her baby then burn them to death. what kind of religion embraces violence,rape and evil. Islam is Evil....#ISLAMABAD#
For point of reference to the Op cos i know he may want to know,the school this evil happened is GGS Jekadefari Gombe State.
Haa! standing ovation for your lies. At no point did the bible mention the ages of Joseph, Rebbecca or Mary. The need to interview the Islamic leaders is to establish whether it was proper in Islam to 'elope' with an under aged girl, convert her without her parent's consent and restrict the parents access to her.
Maybe not but nonetheless, Google is your friend, just search for the age at which Mary the mother of Jesus was betrothed to Joseph; you will get the answer of between the age of 12 -14, which was the norm for biblical Jewish girls - of which Mary was certainly not different.
Also google for the age of sexual consent at the headquarters of Christianity, the Vatican, you will find it is 13 years. You can therefore conclude that had Yunusa eloped to the Vatican, he would likely have obtained the Pope's blessings to have married and had sex with her.
Meanwhile, the Op's position is very clear: while no one in north is supporting Yunusa or admitting to no wrong doing on his part; what we abhor is the mindless blanket of condemnation of his region/religion/tribe for his singular action.
See what the stone age wanna be writer is saying!!!! You are just part of teh people suffering from inferior complex and that simply believes they must keep living in the stone age because of the advantage it confers on them over women. It is nothing but INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
You should be ashamed of yourself for looking for being desperate to look for anything to defend your fantasy of being in bed with a mere child.
Shut up, your ppl who still believe in witchcraft in this 21st century and you are talking of stone age; ppl who still abandon and leave their children to starve to death, torture, maim and brutalize them on mere suspicion of witchcraft - and you have the effrontery call some ppl stone age, I just dey laugh.
Maybe not but nonetheless, Google is friend, just search for the age at which Mary the mother of Jesus was betrothed to Joseph; you will get the answer of between the age of 12 -14, which was the norm for biblical Jewish girls - of which Mary was certainly not different.
Also google for the age of sexual consent at the headquarters of Christianity, the Vatican, you will find it is 13 years. You can therefore conclude that had Yunusa eloped to the Vatican, he would likely have obtained the Pope's blessings to have married and had sex with her.
Meanwhile, the Op's position is very clear: while no one in north is supporting Yunusa or admitting to no wrong doing on his part; what we abhor is the mindless blanket of condemnation of his region/religion/tribe for his singular action.
Christians don't use google results to support the bible. It should be google using the bible as a back up for it's assertion. I am very certain that the Quran cannot be backed by google either. Anything the Vatican does cannot be binding on the bible. The Bible is binding on the Vatican. The forceful conversion of Ese to Islam and the fact that she was held in custody and her parents denied access to her is the reason for the outrage, this is strange to Southerners and cannot be tolerated by Southerners. Marrying minors in the North may not be strange but the conditions under which this was done was criminal coupled with the fact that Sharia council, Hisbah police were even undermining the authority of the Nigerian police force shows a tactical support of Yinusa's action from the Sharia. People that do this in the South are arrested with immediate effect and if not careful lynched.
peaceloveworld2: It is clearly visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that the Ese Oruru Saga is a heavily biased and one-sided reportage by Martin Ayankola (see attached picture), the Editor of The PUNCH Newspapers, the official face of the Christian sponsored anti-Islamic narrative and the emerging No 1 enemy of Islam in Nigeria. As of today, NO ONE, has interrogated Yunusa to get his side of the story. What has happened to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty? Does an accused not have a right to fair hearing? Yet, Martin Ayankola, a supposed brown-envelope journalist has usurped the role of the Judiciary by using his newspaper to try, convict and prosecute Yunusa and heavily maligned the image of Islam. And like a rabid dog, the Christian dominated media lapped on to the story and began disparaging the image of Islam.
That the alleged and yet unproven crime of one individual will be sensationalized and commercialized for cheap pecuniary gains by generalizing it as an Islamic phenomenon in order to denigrate the religion of almost 2 billion Muslim faithful is the height of the most irresponsible, shallow and indolent journalism. Put differently, Ayankola descended to the cesspit of gutter journalism all in a bid to achieve the preconceived agenda of the Nigerian Christian Community (NCC) which is to paint the image of Islam in a bad light, demonize its adherents, fan the embers of disunity and ethno-religious crisis in an already fragile polity. To further confirm this assertion, no Nigerian Christian has distanced Islam from the alleged act of Yunusa which implies that it was a preconceived agenda. Afterall, silence means consent and tacit support. The only Nigerian who has done that is Professor Wole Soyinka who interestingly, is a known non-adherent of both Islam and Christianity. Is this the level to which religious bigotry fuelled by hate-filled fellows like Martin Ayankola has degenerated to? “But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners” (Quran 8:30)
‘Abduction’ or elopement
According to the one-sided reportage we have read, Yunusa was well known to the family of the Orurus. Ese herself confirmed that she used to ‘play’ with Yunusa and other customers of theirs who patronize them. The questions begging for answers among others therefore, are: 1. At what age was Ese deflowered and who was the first cradle robber? 2. Is Yunusa the first person to sleep with Ese and is Yunusa the only person she has ever slept with? 3. Were Yunusa and Ese already sexmates (repugnant) in Bayelsa before the sojourn to Kano? 4. Are any of Ese’s sister siblings, female friends and female colleagues virgins and is the under-age fornication a trend prominent among her colleagues in Bayelsa? 5. Does she and her friends sleep with Bayelsa boys or they only sleep with their Hausa customers? 6. When they got to Kano, did Yunusa sleep with her, was if forcefully, or by mutual consent? For these questions to be answered, both of them should be placed face-to-face and interrogated by independent parties, not the likes of religious bigots and media outfits like Martin Ayankola and The PUNCH Newspapers respectively. With these, we shall be able to firmly establish if this is a case of ‘abduction’ by Yunusa or an elopement by the two lovers.
Yunusa’s alleged acts are very un-Islamic
Let’s even assume that the allegations are true, is Yunusa’s act in concurrence with the dictates of Islam? No! They are not un-Islamic for the following three reasons: 1. There are at least four conditions precedent to wedding or a Nikkah in Islam. They are the consent of the bride in question, consent of her parents or guardian, two witnesses and request for dower (the gift a bride requests from the groom). Were any of these conditions satisfied by Yunusa? Was there a Nikkah? So how could The PUNCH claim that Yunusa’s actions are Islamic? Allah said in the Glorious Quran, “O you who believe, you are forbidden to marry women against their will” (Quran 4:19)
2. Islam prohibits immoral sex (fornication and adultery) in all its ramifications. In actual fact, Islam encourages adherents to flee any signs of temptation. That is why in the Mosque and other Islamic gatherings, the men and women do not sit together so that unnecessary ‘body contact’ do not stir imaginations to begin to run wild? Allah said in the Glorious Quran, “The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah” (Quran 24:2)
3. Allah also said in the Glorious Quran that there is no compulsion in religion. “There shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong” (Quran 2:256). So what doctrine or provisions is Yunusa following? If at all the allegation of forceful conversion is true because we have not heard Yunusa’s version of the story, can Yunusa be said to be following the provisions of the Glorious Quran as being speculated by The PUNCH?
Campaign of calumny and hypocrisy of Martin Ayankola and The PUNCH
Followers of the Ese Oruru Saga and readers of The PUNCH can testify to the intense and almost everyday maligning of the image of Islam by Martin Ayankola, the enemy of Islam and his newspaper, The PUNCH, the mouthpiece of Christian media pen terrorism. A look through The PUNCH magazine today shows that the papers is riddled with stories against Islam. The 2016 anti-Islamic agenda of The PUNCH is fast unfolding before our very eyes. The following are the some of the laundry list of anti-Islamic stories targeted at inciting the NCC against the Nigerian Muslim Community (NMC) currently trending in The PUNCH:
What axe has Martin Ayankola got to grind with Islam? Who are his paymasters? What is their end goal? Are the agents of destruction and founders of Boko Haram (PDP) who lost out in the last general elections behind this? Is it an Igbo agenda or the agenda of the Yoruba Christians?
Double Standard (Ese Oruru versus the three Lagos School Girls)
We have observed that when a crime is committed and the alleged is a Muslim, the Nigerian media spearheaded by the hate-filled, extremist Christian and the insanely ethno-religiously bigoted enemy of Islam, Martin Ayankola and his Newspaper, The PUNCH will lap on to the story, sensationalize and commercialize it to achieved their permanent agenda to denigrate the Islamic faith. How could a bribe-hungry journalist rubbish a religion all in a bid to make a living? As Governor El-Rufai said recently, “what we cannot allow is the continuation of such blackmail, and the expectation that if you make yourself sufficiently obnoxious and incendiary the government will use public funds to settle you”. Is this how bad the worst President Nigeria ever had, Goodluck Jonathan, left the country such that the bribes paid to the pro-PDP PUNCH has finished and the magazine is desirous of patronage by the frugal Buhari administration?
But when the same crime is committed by a Christian, it is treated like an independent issue, with no references, overt or covert to Christianity. Nothing better evidences this than the recent abduction of three Lagos School Girls. Of the 12-member infamous abduction gang, three have been caught and their names are Emmanuel Arigidi, Lamamei and Clement Abanara Million. Even a teenager knows these are Christian names. Why didn’t Ayankola and The PUNCH shout to high heavens that the abductors are following the dictates of Christianity? The baby-factory phenomenon and kidnapping which have become stocks-in-trade of the South East (Igboland) has yet to be blamed on Christianity. The Baptist Church pastor, Camerius J. Mills who raped a 15-year old girl in the United Kingdom was not blamed on Christianity. The genocidal Uganda-based Christian terrorist group, Lord Resistance Army which uses the cross and hopes to establish a country run on the 10 commandments in the bible have been deliberately isolated from Christianity by the Nigerian and Western media. The recent case of the Ebonyi Pastor, David Ibe who raped a church member has yet to be blamed on Christianity. The case of gay paedophila tearing the Vatican apart has yet to be blamed on Christianity. The gay weddings in churches have yet to be blamed on Christianity. So much for the bible and Christianity! Why should Ese’s case be blamed on Islam by the Agent of Doom, Martin Ayankola?
Fanning the embers of discord and the ignoble quartet
With the way Ayankola and The PUNCH are going, they will tear this country apart. Like Adolf Hitler who rose to power on hate-filled anti-Semitic rhetoric and from which he eventually murdered 6 million Jews in the 1954 holocaust, same with the extremely hot-tempered, fraudster of a human and mentally unstable Donald Trump who is revving up anti-Hispanic, anti-African and anti-Muslim hate-filled campaign rhetorics, and yet same with the failure who calls himself Governor of Stomach Infrastructure (GSI), Ayodele Fayose who has started an anti-Islamic rhetoric, Ayankola is fast joining a dishonourable quartet who the world would eventually blame God for ever creating if they achieve their agenda. Does Ayankola want to turn this country to another Syria, Somalia or Sudan? Compare the campaign of hate against Islam by The PUNCH and the editorial (see below) by THISDAY Magazine who demonstrated rare professionalism by identifying the main issues in the Ese saga and not joining the bandwagon of extremist Christians like Martin Ayankola. http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/06/issues-in-ese-orurus-abduction/
Faith-based criminal tagging, way to go going forward?
Over the years, the NMC has endured and maintained dignified composure in the face of unwarranted provocation and attacks by the largely Christian Nigerian Media, Going forward, this will no longer be the case. We do not want to be pushed to the extent of combusting this country. Henceforth, we shall use all the means available to us to tag every criminal with their faith. We shall use the electronic and print media to highlight the faith of any criminal apprehended. With this, the NCC will have a taste of the fruit they have always served the NMC for decades. We shall use the social media platforms to highlight any crime committed by a Christian and quote supporting bible passages to drive home our point. Commit a crime and the image of your faith will be tarnished in the media. This generalization madness by the NCC has got to stop. The only way to stop it is for the NMC to respond in kind.
Pleas
In light of the above, the Nigerian Muslim Community (NCC) hereby call on: 1. the Presidency to wade into this matter by ordering a full scale and independent investigation into the Ese Oruru saga and expose all the truths and untruths. More importantly, Nigerians need to hear from Yunusa. If Yunusa is tried and convicted in a court of competent jurisdiction, he should be severely punished in line with the laws of land – No mercy!
2. the Presidency to commission an investigation into the cases of Muslim children being forcefully converted to Christians at the Edo IDP camps with the rhetoric, “accept Jesus or you will go to hell”
3. the Presidency, the National Assembly (NASS), the Ministers of Justice and Information, the Lagos State Government and the Nigerian Union of Journalist to please call emerging Agent of Hate, and the official face of extremist Christian ideologies in Nigeria, Martin Ayankola and his ignominious newspaper, The PUNCH to order.
4. the owners of the The PUNCH Newspapers and the Aboderin family to salvage whatever is left of the magazine’s lost glory and completely evaporated objectivity by relieving Martin Ayankola of his job before his agenda to throw this country into an avoidable ethno-religious crisis becomes full blown
5. the government to investigate, arrest, and and prosecute Martin Ayankola because he is no different from Nnamdi Kanu and proscribe The PUNCH newspapers which is the print version of Radio Biafra in order to prevent other religious bigots masquerading as journalists and media outfits to follow the ignoble part of fuelling hate-filled narratives to achieve preconceived agenda and God forbid, throw Nigeria into a needless ethno-religious civil war.
6. the Nigerian Christian Community should immediately, please call their Agent of Doom to order and desist from making a living by promoting prejudice and specializing in incitement.
7. the NASS should pass a bill mandating the age of consent/marriage as 18 for both sexes. Though this may be unpopular with the likes of SanI Yerima who once forced the NASS to jettison such motion in the past, President Buhari, Senator Saraki and Speaker Dogara should demonstrate strong political will to push through the bill so as to prevent a recurrence of the Ese episode.
NSCIA, NASFAT, MURIC copied.
ISLAM IS LOVE ETERNAL (On the truth we stand)
“Believers, be the supporters of justice and testify to what you may have witnessed, for the sake of God, even against yourselves, parents, and relatives; whether it be against the rich or the poor. God must be given preference over them. Let not your desires cause you to commit injustice. If you deviate from the truth in your testimony, or decline to give your testimony at all, know that God is Well Aware of what you do.” – Quran (4:135)
After reading this trash, I had no other reason to believe that Islam is truly a religion of devils for the devils and by the devils.
From boko, to abduction of teens and subsequent rape to taking animals(cows) more important dan human lives. To killing innocent people all in d name of inheriting 72 whatever virgins.
I really tot some so called islamic clerics can come out to condemn their evil acts, but Nooooooooo, they are busy justifying a paedophile de filing a kidnapped teenage.
And u even have d guts to even ask if she is a virgin b4 d abduction or not. What difference does it make? She was kidnapped( a big crime) and raped ( another big crime) both crimes are against humanity and d laws of FG of nigeria.
So, u want to tell me that a man who abducted a prostitute and den raped her against her will is justified? Pathetic beings.
Islam a bad.
Quote me anyday, anytime and anywhere. Islam is the worst thing to have ever happened to the entire world.
Why would boko haram end when people like u justify their acts? Well, what is my business? Na for north east dem go de kill una people any how, wetin concern me?
Shut up, your ppl who still believe in witchcraft in this 21st century and you are talking of stone age; ppl who still abandon and leave their children to starve to death, torture, maim and brutalize them on mere suspicion of witchcraft - and you have the effrontery call some ppl stone age, I just dey laugh.
ur jt a senseless pedophile, what does a 14 year old girl know?maybe if this was the story of your mother,u may not even be alive 2 type all dis bullshit.
Maybe not but nonetheless, Google is your friend, just search for the age at which Mary the mother of Jesus was betrothed to Joseph; you will get the answer of between the age of 12 -14, which was the norm for biblical Jewish girls - of which Mary was certainly not different.
Also google for the age of sexual consent at the headquarters of Christianity, the Vatican, you will find it is 13 years. You can therefore conclude that had Yunusa eloped to the Vatican, he would likely have obtained the Pope's blessings to have married and had sex with her.
Meanwhile, the Op's position is very clear: while no one in north is supporting Yunusa or admitting to no wrong doing on his part; what we abhor is the mindless blanket of condemnation of his region/religion/tribe for his singular action.
Funny, I will ignore every other crap u wrote up there and focus on your last.
Condemnation of his religion and tribe. Yes. It should be condemned because, ese is not the only girl in such situation, and to even think that the the so called religious clerics, emirs, custodians of the tribe and even sharia whatever and their imams kept mute for this dastardly act means that they are all in support and by extension to d religion.
What other way is suitable to condemn the d acts that those I mentioned did? None.
By extension also, they are in support and their evil religion is bidding on their decisions.
Bros, please deal with it.
Least I forget. ISLAM is a religion of DEVILS for the DEVILS and for the EVILS.
In every way possible, the essence and letters of this ops defence is damaging even more to Islam than those who slam it.
His allusion to the sexual conditions of the victim is a typical defence of rapists.
His biblical examples are unrelated and at best dodgy.
You think we don't want to hear from Yinusa? Who kept him from talking? The Punch?
Like it has been said over and over again. This is a criminal case. Those involved in this disgraceful conduct should all face the music no matter how highly placed.
The fact that Islam influence everyday actions and even cultures of Muslims ( and there are evidences of this influence for both good and bad); means Islam would inevitable be mentioned simply because its the common denominator linking most of the cases talked about.
The op really should keep quiet, let this slide and channel his anger and frustrations towards northern and radical Muslims who put the religion in bad light; both online and in real life. The clean up should start from themselves.
peaceloveworld2: The injustice is that we have not heard from Yunusa. An accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty no matter the crime.
Put yourself is Yunusa's shoes. Should you just be taken to court and not interrogated.
As of today, no one has interrogated Yunusa. Is this a Christian agenda to denigrate Islam all along?
Is faith-tagging crime the way to go?
I can't believe that you are desperately trying to depict an adult man who abducted an underage girl from her home, took her to Kano and forcefully married her as the victim here?
.you muslims never seem to stop amazing me with your crass rubbish
@Peaceloveworld u try well well, but Islam is a disease, . I Invite u to religious section, where Muslims are schooled, pls bring your quran and hadiths along. I am blackfire
Christians don't use google results to support the bible. It should be google using the bible as a back up for it's assertion. I am very certain that the Quran cannot be backed by google either. Anything the Vatican does cannot be binding on the bible. The Bible is binding on the Vatican. The forceful conversion of Ese to Islam and the fact that she was held in custody and her parents denied access to her is the reason for the outrage, this is strange to Southerners and cannot be tolerated by Southerners. Marrying minors in the North may not be strange but the conditions under which this was done was criminal coupled with the fact that Sharia council, Hisbah police were even undermining the authority of the Nigerian police force shows a tactical support of Yinusa's action from the Sharia. People that do this in the South are arrested with immediate effect and if not careful lynched.
LOL, look at you, too afraid to face facts by shifting the goal post. Well google is merely a search engine which simply connects you to many sources of information, among them your bible and many records of history and research - running away from them would never change the facts therein within them.
On the matter of Ese, kindly provide any source of credible evidence that the girl was forcefully converted to Islam or was held against her will and that there was any marriage - apart from hearsay coming from biased journalism.
On the other hand, here is a video and audio evidence of the girl protesting against being handed over to the police without her beloved Yunusa; you can also hear her admitting to being 17yrs of age, travelling to Kano and converting to Islam from her own free will.
This is why the OP and many believe that there is more to this story and that the reporting by Punch Newspaper is one sided as well as malicious and reeking with sentiments against the region/religion and tribe that Yunusa belongs.
Funny, I will ignore every other crap u wrote up there and focus on your last.
Condemnation of his religion and tribe. Yes. It should be condemned because, ese is not the only girl in such situation, and to even think that the the so called religious clerics, emirs, custodians of the tribe and even sharia whatever and their imams kept mute for this dastardly act means that they are all in support and by extension to d religion.
What other way is suitable to condemn the d acts that those I mentioned did? None.
By extension also, they are in support and their evil religion is bidding on their decisions.
Bros, please deal with it.
Least I forget. ISLAM is a religion of DEVILS for the DEVILS and for the EVILS.
#qoutemeandjoinyunusa
This is exactly where the stupidity of you and your ilk lies: does the crime of one person, in this case Yunusa, constitute the crime of his whole tribe and members of his religious faith? How silly can you ppl be?
TippyTop: Rubbish article. Check out the number of women suffering from fistula in the north.
Children belong in schools not on your bed.
Honestly I agree with you, the writer is lunatic, And all the money spent on his education is a pure waste. We are talking about the destiny of a minor and the PAIN on her parent. Does the guy has a daughter? If yes, my prayer is that his daughter will be KIDNAPPED and be MOLESTED in Jesus name Amen.
GreatAgb: Rubbish! I stopped reading when I saw "...was Ese a Virgin"? Like it matters.
It doesn't even matter if Ese consented to sex. What d law cares about is the fact that marrying an underaGe girl is a criminal offence
So marrying an underaged girl is a criminal offence but deflowering and impregnating aren't, is that what you are saying? FYI Yinusa never married her at any point.
zenith4biz: When an action is performed by a criminal and such action is sanctioned by the custodian of a religious or customary law. Such action would be deemed to be legal based on the custom or religion.
Answer the following questions OP. 1. What is the purpose of Hisbah Commission? 2. What are the roles played by the commission in the abduction and conversion of ese? 3. Why are there compulsory 'conversion' centres in the north? 4. What are the roles played by Hisbah Commission in the repatriation of ese? 5. Did Yinusa receive any moral support from his community and religious leaders after successfully bringing a 'trophy' home?
abeg helep me ask am. no be sanusi say him direct sharia council for kano make dem release d girl since last year dem refuse sharia council no be islamic organization for kano
This is exactly where the stupidity of you and your ilk lies: does the crime of one person, in this case Yunusa, constitute the crime of his whole tribe and members of his religious faith? How silly can you ppl be?
Nope, where the problems lies is the fact that this very case of kidnap and subsequent rape is not peculiar to just yunusa, there are soo many other related cases.
Have u ever heard of aiding and abating of crimes? When u aid and abate, u are as guilty and the 1st offender.
Now, who are the custodians of Islam? Who married ese to yunusa? When d case was initially reported by ese's mother and other victims in such circumstances to the religious clerics and the chief of d clan, what did they do? Are u telling me they didn't know that what ese did was a crime against FG and humanity? Who converted ese to Islam? I bet an imam did. And since an imam saw nothing wrong with what yunusa and his likes did or were doing, then it is attributed to their religious beliefs including the imam and every other person who knew that such things have been happing since time immemorial but choose to keep quiet, probably because it conforms with the doctrines of their faiths.
My brother, let us call a spade a spade and stop calling it a shovel maybe because they are used for similar things.
Most of the people of islamic faiths condemning yunusa's acts are only doing it because it has been blown open. Why are they all speaking up all of a sudden? I am quiet sure that the hausa's that took ese's mum to the north when ese disappeared knew what yunusa was upto as it is a norm, I am also aware that many people are present when one conducts a marriage rites, I am also positive that those people present knew what yunusa did considering the fact that ese has to be converted from Christianity to islam, I am also aware that yunusa has family relatives and friends, they are also aware of what yunusa did. But what did they do? They kept mute, why? Because they saw it as a norm, and what is d definition of norms? It is a principle guiding a group of people, it also associated with their way of life.
So, my brother u have no moral and legal right as to tell me not to associate islam with evil, because that is simply what they are.
How do u know that someone is hausa, igbo, yoruba? It is because of their common traits, ranging from their food,language, mode of dressing, greeting and all that.
So, when I see a group of people doing a similar thing, the right thing to do is to associate them with what they were doing.
My brother where were u b4 ese's case? Let's not forget about yerima's case, because so many islamic clerics and powerful nigerians from the northern divide, probably muslims justified his acts. There was another case where a young girl had to poison d estranged husband for dis very act and confidently pleaded guilty.
Assume d islamic clerics and other custodians of Islam condemned yerima and d girls case, yunusa wouldn't been in this case now, so, na dem dem
Like I will always say.
Islam is a religion of devils by the devils and for the devils. Nothing can change that.
And igbo adage says, "emekaria otutu ihe karia ugboro abuo m'obu ato, oburu omenala"
Here omenala means culture, and culture is the peoples way of life.
Ask an igbo friend to help u translate my adage, I know u have one And den, u,op and your likes have d guts to castigate d man who brought this whole mess to d open, what pathetic stup!dity and imbecil!ty?
Who asked yunusa not to give his own verson of the story? Punch? The man? Or ese's family?
Since your ilk can come out to justify yunusa and den rubbish d man who made it open, why have u both refused to channel that energy into making yunusa to speak up so that people will hear his own side? NOOO, u guys didn't, that is unadulterated hypocrisy.
1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
1. Isaac (40yrs) married Rebecca (3yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible 2. Joseph (90yrs) married Virgin Mary (10yrs) in your so-called Holy Bible. Mary gave birth to Jesus at the age of 12yrs before going on to have Joseph (jr), James, Jude and Simon.
Aren't Isaac and Joseph both paedophiles and isn't the bible in support of child marriage. So if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a paedophile (Astagfirullahi), Isaac and Joseph also were.
The article and the discussion is beyond your comprehension, far beyond your mental capacity. The likes of @ Chrisooblog understand the intent of the article and can hold useful discussions, not people like you.
Assignment for you: Please fetch the age at which Mary had the other four children and age gaps between them.
so if Alhaji Muhammed married aisha at age 9 in sixth century you too must marry aisha at same age in this 21st century? Make una get sense small na.
LOL, look at you, too afraid to face facts by shifting the goal post. Well google is merely a search engine which simply connects you to many sources of information, among them your bible and many records of history and research - running away from them would never change the facts therein within them.
On the matter of Ese, kindly provide any source of credible evidence that the girl was forcefully converted to Islam or was held against her will and that there was any marriage - apart from hearsay coming from biased journalism.
On the other hand, here is a video and audio evidence of the girl protesting against being handed over to the police without her beloved Yunusa; you can also hear her admitting to being 17yrs of age, travelling to Kano and converting to Islam from her own free will.
This is why the OP and many believe that there is more to this story and that the reporting by Punch Newspaper is one sided as well as malicious and reeking with sentiments against the region/religion and tribe that Yunusa belongs.
I am still trying to detect the shifting of goal post or the fear of facing facts. You said Rebbecca and Mary were married off as minors just to buttress your point that Christian/South should stop flogging the issue that Ese is a minor. I made you understand that writings on google by anybody doesnt make it proof that those characters in the bible were indeed married off as minors. I guess it is safe to say The Prophet is a paedophile since there are also writings on google to justify it. The OP wants to know why Islam was dragged into the matter as per the 'biased' interview with the muslim cleric. I made you understand that since the emir, sharia court and hisbah police were all involved in the matter then Islam cannot be separated from the case. I know you understand what I am saying but you pretend not. I guess Taqqiya has to be employed at this point. You are merely distracting the core of the matter.
Kindly tell me: if Islam is Peace or Love as you proclaim, why do we have Islamist extremist today, that are terrorizing the world, instead of an extremely Peaceful and Loving people? .
My candid advice for you is to recheck your convictions. Tomorrow may be too late.
An Almajiri that will thoroughly school your sorry ignorant moronic self anytime. So you think you insulted me by calling me Almajiri? Foolish idiot.
Useles almajiri take your time to educate the likes of Yunusa in your barbaric communities and reform your mentally sick people that are practising ''Abduction islam'', a new version of paedophillic and depraved islam.
I have enough bowls to give out to wandering homeless abductors like you, for you to beg for your daily bread with ease.
Abeg park well somewhere. Human beings are talking, goro-chewing cattle is poking his nose. Mscheeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww.
LOL, look at you, too afraid to face facts by shifting the goal post. Well google is merely a search engine which simply connects you to many sources of information, among them your bible and many records of history and research - running away from them would never change the facts therein within them.
On the matter of Ese, kindly provide any source of credible evidence that the girl was forcefully converted to Islam or was held against her will and that there was any marriage - apart from hearsay coming from biased journalism.
On the other hand, here is a video and audio evidence of the girl protesting against being handed over to the police without her beloved Yunusa; you can also hear her admitting to being 17yrs of age, travelling to Kano and converting to Islam from her own free will.
This is why the OP and many believe that there is more to this story and that the reporting by Punch Newspaper is one sided as well as malicious and reeking with sentiments against the region/religion and tribe that Yunusa belongs.
I think your brain should be able to decode that it was not ordinary for a confirmed 13yr old girl to be claiming she is 17 nah, or is that difficult for u to comprehend??
see wetin dasuki dey face