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| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Demmzy15(m): 12:34pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200:The verse never stated "THE LORD'S HALF", but the children of Israel's half. So half of 16,000 was given to the levites which would be 8000. The verse is clear enough! The 32 virgins went to the Levites. Inasmuch as NOBODY has been able to prove that there were child marriages in the Bible and/or use of women as sex slaves, and since the Levites could only marry fellow levites, the POWS were to strictly to serve.@underlined, nothing points to that direction. The levites got 8000 virgins with other booties, which was half of the children of Israel. Concerning what they used the virgins for, that's laughable. Are you trying to say the virgins was collected just to stare at? Child marriages are full in the bible, we in fact debated it last year. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Demmzy15(m): 12:37pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
cckris: You're very funny o! !!! Lmao!!!! We have almost 15 million Arab Christians and they use Allaah for God! This is John 3:16 in Arabic transliteration: "Li-annhu haakadha ahabba Allahu al-'Aalama hataa badhala . . . " https://www.answering-christianity.com/abib-02.jpg "For God so loved the world, that . . . " If you want more references I can gladly give you, stop displaying ignorance! Here's the 32 virgins: 36-40 The half share of the soldiers was 337,500 sheep and goats, of which 675 were the tax for the Lord; 36,000 cattle for the soldiers, of which 72 were the tax for the Lord; 30,500 donkeys for the soldiers, of which 61 were the tax for the Lord; and 16,000 virgins for the soldiers, of which 32 were the tax for the Lord. Numbers 31:36-40 What did your God do with the virgins?! |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by truthman2012(m): 12:44pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Oh, what a nonsense ! So it is allahh's plan to allow Muhammad suffer from pains of poison for many years before he died but saved Jesus from the pain of crucifixion. It shows allahh loves Jesus more than Muhammad. The Gospel of Barnabas you are referring to is the formulation of desperate muslims. The tone of the gospel credited to Barnabas is islamic, it is the exact way the muslims construct statements, which is inconsistent with the four Gospel written by Jesus disciples. Why should only Barnabas gospel be different from others? Even in law, the witnesses of the majority override the witness of one man. Read more here: www.answering-islam.org/Green/barnabas.htm |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Nobody: 12:56pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200:I never noticed the persons in there. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Scholar8200(m): 2:54pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Demmzy15:Okay I see where the 32 comes from: And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord'S tribute was thirty and two persons. 41 And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord'S heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the Lord commanded Moses. Numbers 31:41,42 Meaning they were given to the priests who are just like the Levites and the strict laws on marriage etc applies to them. Through the OT there is nothing like sex slavery using captives! In fact, if anyone was interested in a woman among the POW, there were laid down procedures to be followed, procedures that respects the dignity of the woman in question! @underlined, nothing points to that direction. The levites got 8000 virgins with other booties, which was half of the children of Israel. Concerning what they used the virgins for, that's laughable. Are you trying to say the virgins was collected just to stare at?You will have to prove contrary! If a nation like Syria would use such only as a servant to the mistress how much more a nation that had such laws -Israel: And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away [size=14pt]captive out of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's wife.[/size] 3 And she said unto her mistress, Would God my lord were with the prophet that is in Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy. 2Kings 5:2,3 Even the syrians did not use kid girls as sex slaves! Child marriages are full in the bible, we in fact debated it last year.Show me ONE therein. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Scholar8200(m): 2:58pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Do the mathematics yourself. Besides, the clarification of how it was written and compiled as given by others previously should be of help. Should you repeat this question, I would not answer. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:02pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200:laughing... like I always say.. your choice to choose what you want to believe.. all I have to do is show you the truth |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by CHEUARIN: 3:03pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
@ Scholar8200, cckris, truthman2012 et al: Keep standing up for Jesus Christ. There is something about that Name that is giving the devil and his agents nightmares... Many terrible and demonic materials had come and gone down into hell; yet, the Holy Bible still stands... The trick of the devil and his agents are simple...make a Christian/pagan not believe in Jesus and book his flight straight to hell...the devil is not smart, of course. @ Agents of darkness (spiritual and physical): When will you quit from trying to desecrate Jehovah and the name Jesus. Who can battle with the LORD? Can a product contend with the Manufacturer? No way! Who else did what God/Jesus Christ did? He who has the key, the secret and the power raised the dead and conquered Satan home and away. A classical example: Study John Chapters 11 and 12. Here, Lazarus was confirmed dead by doctors and witnesses and buried. After 4 days, Jesus called him (Lazarus) from the grave. It is only God that can do that, not man. If it is done in India, the news will be everywhere wth evidence. The truth is bitter! Now, here is the shocker: John 11: 45 - 52 and John 12: 9 - 11. If people of that generation were ready to display evil and hatred against the good Lord, Jesus, how much more people of today... So, no challenge... Evidentially, Satan is and will remain a loser. All satanic agents world-wide and their deceitful inventions ended up in huge disappointments. The fundamental error and disappointment was made when the devil enabled Jesus fulfil destiny through crucifixion as prophesied. He(the devil) has not recovered from that big blow! He was simply limited in wisdom and never understood mysteries of God. The devil today is fighting deceitfully to re-write what he did through his agents...public crucifixion of Jesus...What a joker! Well, the more you fight the Truth, the more it prevails and the more you lose...that is the reason the True Church of the Living God is marching forward without physical Christians fighting for Jehovah. Real battles are won in the spiritual realm and in that name that conquered Satan forever...Jesus Christ. Finally, we all have free-wills from Jehovah. That is why we are not remote-controlled like robots. Choose who to serve but I recommend the only True Way...Jesus Christ; John 14:6. With my free-will, I have chosen Jesus Christ...He is working for me big time...Thank You Jesus. I am a Christian from Heaven and I am surely going back there. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Scholar8200(m): 3:05pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:This is ironical! You show the truth using the failed 'gospel of Barnabas'! |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:09pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:laughing.. I sha can't open your brain and put in explanation.. You are on your own |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:11pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:laughing..Allah loves Jesus more than Muhammad (saw).. definitely you are saying Allah loves Buhari family more than your own family?.. you think like a kid.. we are created to be what we are told to be.. /simple / For your information ...Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the highest in rank of prophets.. ask Jesus na.. go read gospel of Barnabas Mr man |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:16pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:laughing.. Barnabas is now a Muslim.. Barnabas gospel was forged by Muslims.. that's cool .. gospel of Barnabas is different from others because he's an eyewitness.. his gospel cleared so many errors in the gospel of historians that wrote Bible.. if eye witness of one man shows the loopholes in many eyewitness account.. then the one man eye witness override it all.. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:17pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
cckris:go read Luke account and John account... you yourself will see the contradictions in their account |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:19pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200:failed gospel? laughing... give me one reason it's a failed gospel.. Just one.. mind you.. tell me the year between the Bible compilation and Jesus death |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Empiree: 3:30pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200:And how is Barnabas a failed bible? ....because it contradicts some of your doctrines? . Aren't other Gospels failed too? How about Gospel Of Judas, ever heard of that? . It defers with kjv and others as well. Havent you guys no sense to have figured this out. King James deficiencies gave birth to RSV. And yet you guys still telling us bible is the truth? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 3:42pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I thought I made myself clear ? What is your accusation against the word of God ? You said because the bible was not written during the time of jesus. If we are to agree with your reasoning, then the quran is even worse, or is the quran written during the time of jesus ? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 3:46pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Empiree:the book of barnabas say jesus is not the messiah, muhammed is. And the quran say jesus is the messiah. Which among do you believe ? Baranbas gospel or the quran ? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by DeathStroke007(op): 3:46pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212:we talking Bible authenticity, you bring in Jesus and Quran.. are you educated at all? me xef fuckup by answering u.. when you grow up and your common sense starts working.. quote me |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 4:03pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I point out your hypocrisy, because the bible is not written during the time of jesus, it cannot be the word of God, what about the quran ? The story of abraham, isaac, jacob and the rest. Muhammad was present during the days of this mighty men ? You are asking me to use common sense ? Seriously ? Okay. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Empiree: 4:07pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212:muslims do not claim gospel of Barnabas is 100% authentic. We simply deduce from it same way we deduce from others. Now Gospel of Barnabas says Jesus is NOT God and NOT son of God. Do you agree with that or not?. Why Christians Hidden Gospel Of Barnabas http://www.jesus-islam.org/Pages/WhyhaveChristianshiddenthegospelofBarnabas.aspx |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 4:14pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Empiree:jesus is the son of God. If barnabas gospel was hidden, I don't think we will be discussing about it now. their are many hadith that are no longer in the internet anymore. Were are they ? Why are they remove ? Because muslims scholars believe , the hadith contradict the quran. Same way the gospel of barnabas contradict the bible. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by cckris: 5:04pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I've already MEMORISED them. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Empiree: 5:10pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212:Lol. Hadith is the sayings attributed to the prophet of Islam(SAW). It is not a protected and guaranteed book. We never said it is. Here, we talking about Quran. We say Quran is God's perfect Holy Book. It is the first and primary source of guidance in Islam You also said Bible is word of God and Bible is primary source in Christendom. But then, you have plenty of contradicting Gospels but we have one Quran. See what i am talking about?. So we are competing primary source of guidance from both religions. We are not talking about other sources for now. Quran is the only guarantee Book in the world. Can you boost of this with Bible? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by cckris: 5:18pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Christianity doesn't include anything like Islamic FATWA. Today some 'christian' pastors are celebrating gay marriages in THEIR 'church', & no Christian has any Bible mandate to FIGHT or KILL them. Moslems may therefore be tempted to conclude that gay acceptable in Christianity. Christianity is STRICTLY based individual WILLINGNESS to worship God, in spirit & in truth.This great FREEDOM to choose, is admittedly too difficult for Moslems to digest. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by cckris: 5:37pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Empiree:King James deficiency? The 70 scholars that produced the King James Version (KJV), did a great job. But the KJV isn't the first translation from Hebrew. The Septuagint, is a Greek translation of the Old Testament, produced 300 years before Christ, in which Joshua son of Nun was rendered as Jesus. That's how the name Jesus dominated Greek civilizations of Europe, & thus worldwide. All translations MUST refer to existing Scriptures, & there were many. And the PURPOSE of translators is always to make the contexts understandable to its generation. KJV is still the best. Besides, there's always the Hebrew Scriptures to compare with. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by cckris: 5:54pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Demmzy15:If you translate 'Ilah Ilah Il Allah', you will easily discover that the Arabic word for God is not Allah. Christians in Northern Nigeria are taking note of this, & in future editions of Hausa Bible, the word Allah will not be used. And some non-Christians will not understand. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by cckris: 6:02pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212:They don't even have the Old Testament to refer to & compare with. They just plagiarise, & presume that Maryam, Moses' elder sister was Mary the mother of Jesus, even when simple history shows that they were separated by 1500 years. |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 6:02pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Empiree:are you denying , the hadith is not a revelation ? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 6:05pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
cckris:Read this thread and see how they are un able to answer my question https://www.nairaland.com/2440687/how-old-mary-when-she |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Empiree: 6:48pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
malvisguy212:Read again |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by malvisguy212: 7:00pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Empiree:is the hadith a revelation ? |
| Re: Truth About Crucifixion by Empiree: 7:01pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
cckris:Read further here https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/7 Mr King James defender, read this https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/8 How do you feel after reading it? |
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