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| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 9:04pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
adeaks:Please note that despite the fact that Awolowo contested election at the federal level, he was still the leader of AG on whose back Akintola rode to power. My opinion here is that Awolowo, having seen the obvious deviation of Akintola from AG's ideology and his increasing relationship with the Balewa government-the perceived enemy of AG is enough reason for Awolowo to mount pressure on Akintola to return to the ideology of the party or face the wrath of the party. It was not a gesture to control the government under Akintola but to make sure his legacies and the ideology of AG never go into extinction in their stronghold. It was never a case of Godfatherism gone bad because I can't say who the godson is in their context. Awolowo and Akintola led AG, so I don't see where Akintola became godson to Awolowo. I hope I have been able to debunk the claim of those scholars that Awolowo was a godfather to Akintola. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by obiZEAL(m): 9:05pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
adeaks:Sir, track records equals experience ( the records were obtained from a job welldone). As for the guiding hands we have a constitution and we a legislature. The youth can also learn from history. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 9:05pm On Mar 12, 2016*. Modified: 9:22pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Audience you can ask your questions... Judges compile the scores and forward to Nairalandinterschooldebate@gmail.com Adeaks Joseph1832 Jarus |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 9:14pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
obiZEAL:Now you agreed that Godfatherism cannot be singled out the sole bane of effective leadership. It is not even the problem ab initio. When our electoral institutions are reformed, there won't be any need to be afraid of godfathers. Thanks for eventually agreeing to the fact that, concentrating our effort on the extinction of godfatherism doesn't worth it, but using the same effort in choosing leaders with integrity, accountability and transparency. I believe you know that godfatherism is still practised in advance countries we are looking up to. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by sammyscholar(m): 9:22pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:You wrote this in your essay: "As perversely as this culture may have been re-engineered, it's dilaceration will be more inimical than logical. " How do you mean? You mean Nigeria is going to suffer if it removes the touches and mights of political Godfathers in its political landscape? What benefit has Godfatherism had on this country before now, now, and would even have after now? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 9:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
You guys are wonderful... Make sure you clear all questions posited to you... If you have duly done that, then you can conclude so we can bring the debate to a close, while we await results. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 9:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
You guys are wonderful... Make sure you clear all questions posited to you... If you have duly done that, then you can conclude so we can bring the debate to a close, while we await results. Abuklaw Catalyst4real ObiZEAL Noskyboy |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by obiZEAL(m): 9:33pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Abuklaw:Lolz.... You wish I only mentioned the reformation of our electoral system because he brought it up, like I mentioned in one of my replies, the process of Godfatherism does not start during the election, it is inherent in political parties where INEC has no jurisdiction, it plays out in the campaign processes too,,, so sir, electoral reform is a secondary solution to a primary problem. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Catalyst4real: 9:45pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
sammyscholar:Refer to my definition of Godfatherism, or I don't mind reiterating "the architectural motive behind the evolution of godfathers is to have an experienced role model to look up to, who is godly in nature and fatherly in principle" Removing Godfatherism is like eliminating that guide and support from people who have thread on the same part as the present leader. What has Godfatherism done in Nigeria? very minimal i must say, because we haven't discovered it's true purpose. Nigerian Godfatherism may have been abused, but take reference from developed nations that practice it, and see how well they thrive. Looking carefully, it is not the godfatherism itself that pulls us back, but how deeply we continuously misplace priorities, we live in an economy where people are more loyal to their tribes, villages and ethnics than they are to the country at large. Eliminating godfatherism won't even help us, that's like cutting the branch, ignoring the roots |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by noskyboy(m): 9:46pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
a big thank you to Abuklaw, Catalyst4real and ObiZeal for this exhaustive, very educative and interesting intellectual exercise. I would conclude by saying that Nigeria's politics is one that is growing and needs credible leaders, and if credible leaders must emerge, then the process for emergence of good leaders must be open to all, and to do that, godfatherism must be discouraged. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 9:47pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
I will summarily conclude that godfatherism should not be said to be the problem of effective leaders but that Reformation needs to be made to our electoral system. That effective leaders with the positive character, integrity, vision, purpose and mission do not see any threat in godfatherism since they know what they want to achieve as leaders. I hope the readers would agree with me, that removing godfatherism from Nigeria's political sphere won't solve the inadequacies of our leaders. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 9:55pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Well. We have finally come to the end of today's debate. *sigh* the judges are working on the results. Please bear with us, as there is probability that we may not Annouce the winner today.... Hang around. Thanks... |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by obiZEAL(m): 9:56pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Big shout out to Abuklaw and Catalyst4real, you guys gave me a run for my data and time. For my final thoughts; obiZEAL: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by arcnomec(m): 10:05pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Thumbs up to all debaters tonight,you guys dealt extensively well on the aforementioned topic.. But my humble take on this topic," if you take away godfatherism in the political scene,then politics become a charade,cause godfatherism has it own advantages it provides to politics and as well as it disadvantages too. So reformation is the key factor here,without giving recourse to demands and selfish interest of the supposed godfathers at the detriment of the mass. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by joseph1832(m): 10:11pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Well done debaters. I must say you all really wowed me with your points, rebuttals and counter rebuttals. However, I must call to your attention that you guys still lack the spirit to carry out proper research. I believe by now in your various schools, you should have been taught Research Methodology? And if you haven't, you should make proper effort to learn/study this, it will open and broaden your minds.... I wonder what happened to books, journals and newspapers? You guys should make use of your school library when debating topics like this, many of your seniors have written 'projects' on this topic, I expected to see more use of books, journals and newspaper references but didn't. As at the time when 'godfatherism' was in vogue, (the fourth republic to be precise) the internet wasn't even in use then, but you guys kept posting links as your references I must not fail to inform you guys to please know how to make adequate and appropriate references when quoting books, journals, newspapers or even the internet. Your research methodology will teach you further as regard this. Once again, I enjoyed this debate, thank you guys for your time and I wish you the best in your studies and endeavors. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 10:17pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
arcnomec:a big thank you for this assertion. That is what team ABU is trying to pass across to the readers. Barackodam, I can see you observing from that corner. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Nobody: 10:22pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Great, great effort guys. I definitely learnt one or two things from your essays. Just a little advice for Catalyst4real. I felt your reply below and one or two of your rebuttals were overly acerbic. As this is an intellectual exercise, I think you can deliver your rebuttals without taking personal potshots or denigrating your co-debaters. Tackle the question and not the person. I feel all the other debaters did very well in this regard. That being said, I would love to see both teams in the next round. Kudos Catalyst4real: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 10:23pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
joseph1832:Thanks for the advice. We will note it in subsequent fixtures. But I want you to know that I personally think there is no need bugging people with references few will end up checking. And word count to is an impediment to posting numerous references. Once again, thanks for the invaluable advice. We hope to hear from you soon. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by barackodam: 10:26pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Abuklaw: ![]() To support our own, ghost mode wise |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 10:29pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
adeaks:Thanks for this sarcasm. you will only see one of us in the next round and that is probably team ABU. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by joseph1832(m): 10:31pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Abuklaw:The reference(s) is to give your work validity and credibility. It doesn't matter whether anybody checks it or not. In social sciences, it was noted that whatever ever one writes is based or was based on a previous work or idea, that's why many want to know what influenced your thought or idea. That's one of the need for using references. When you get to your pen ultimate year in school and when they teach you research methodology, you'll understand more. This is a debate that has to do with ideas, fact and proof, thus, this is the education section where we dwell on facts and evidence, not baseless and senseless opinions like we see in Romance section. LOL. ![]() |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Catalyst4real: 10:31pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
adeaks:Alright. Noted Emotions were high then, I meant no contempt ![]() I believe Obizeal concurs ![]() |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 10:34pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
barackodam:And we really need the support. It came in nick of time. Thanks to all abusite for your unwavering support. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by obiZEAL(m): 10:52pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:Yea ..indeed, it was a great experience regardless of the outcome. We all did great. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Taeewo(m): 7:03am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Nice topic |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Abuklaw(m): 7:35am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Good morning Fynestboi. We hope the result will be available as soon as possible. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 8:06am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Abuklaw:Yes sir.... |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by HerexG(m): 8:27am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Abuklaw:Great job "Abuklaw", your presentation was amazing , you were able to engage me through out with your scintillating view points . Though only but few founding political godfathers were able to influence our political system, I this was due the early military intervention With this your political ideas stated, I'm proud to say that Nigeria politics sure have a hope in you. Keep it up. Score sent |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by HerexG(m): 8:46am On Mar 13, 2016 |
noskyboy:Well done "Noskyboy" your points were quite factual and expository , I'm looking at a great future mouthpiece of the voiceless Nigerians. But please pay more attention on your vocabulary and proper spacing of your write up for easier reading. Score sent |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by HerexG(m): 9:05am On Mar 13, 2016 |
obiZEAL:Good job "Obizeal" I admire your logic, nice presentation. You Simplified the idea of "godfatherism" in regards to Nigerian politics , well done our future professor . Score sent |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by HerexG(m): 9:17am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:Great job "Catalyst4real" liked the way you painted the image of "godfatherism" bright and enlightening us how it is wrongfully practised in Nigeria. I won't fail to commend on your creative approach you employed in writing, well done. I Score sent. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool debate: Unijos Vs Abu Zaria::: Winner::: ABU ZARIA by Fynestboi(mod): 9:50am On Mar 13, 2016 |
The time we are waiting for is here.... |
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