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Ecoterrorist:
when Zombie deny their master. A check on your old post will show you even sniff on PMB boxers to feel cool

Ipob DSS agent, how come you missed this when wasting your life sleeping and waking on Nairaland looking for who to take on online when you are just a whimp in real life

We elected a 1985 president who believes the country can only survive by running after foreign investors no matter how suspicious whatever pact signed is. I have not been surprised by his traveling about. This is how he believed it is done in in the 80's, and this is how he still believes it should be done now and his gullible supporters like i once was will tell you 'he's strengthening international relations' 11 months after coming to power. I only regretted supporting the man as it was a choice of the devil and the deep deep blue sea. Turns out we elected a major disaster and a potential catastrophe. It won't be long before we hear that Nigeria has been sold to the highest bidder.

MrLouisVanGaal:
Ipob DSS agent, how come you missed this when wasting your life sleeping and waking on Nairaland looking for who to take on online when you are just a whimp in real life

We have a record of all the Zombies here so all these latest wailing wont stop us from callingZombies like you out

that's what buhari taught them

ChokolateBoss:
Very well, we've got that one clear. U don't have alzheimers, so why will u claim disobedience of court orders started in this admin. Perhaps u're biased and not being objective?


U're d one that made a claim and I asked u to prove it. Instead u're telling me 2 give u links where previous admins flagrantly disobeyed court orders more than this one.
So now u've changed ur stance from
"it started in this admin"
to
"it didn't start with this admin but they do it flagrantly".
Is that ur stance now?


Cos I quite don't understand how som1 could say what u said if their memory is in tact


Not at all. I understood exactly what u wrote and there's nothing in ur statement which implies u were using figures of speech.


Very wrong. If u say otherwise, pls prove it.


Oh come on! I didn't tell u to prove what is clearly in d article (that erring dss operatives refused to show up in court). I said u should prove how court order disobedience started with this regime. Perhaps u want to mention Dasuki or Nnamdi or Metuh or Dokpesi's trial? Just an idea though

Just a question: if some dss operatives beat up som1 after which they're charged to court and they've not shown up yet, can that be classified as 'flagrant' disobedience by PMB's regime?


Obviously u're sensitive to this 'alzheimer' word. Sorry if u're hurt. I apologize.

You appear a lot incorrigible, except that you last 2 statements saved the day.

I said my statement was overboard, so which figures of speech are you talking about?

Disobey of court orders have been worse in this administration, and any objective person will agree with it.
Since the beginning of this administration, we have been inundated with cases of the FG or it's agencies vehemently refusing to obey court orders.
It's now left for you to show us that these things have been since time immemorial.

You talked about Dasuki, Metuh, Kanu etc. My dear, a court order is a court order. The presidency can't choose which ones to obey and disobey. It breeds illegality, and thus is corruption in itself. If the Judiciary now becomes an appendage of the Executive, how effective do you think the Justice system will be?

@bold: Go back and read the first question you asked me, and tell me if my response didn't deal appropriately with the original question.

ChokolateBoss:
Look at this brainless goat who has allowed hatred and prejudice for PMB shorten his lifespan talk to me about lecture. Oga face it, u hate Buhari and u're so bitter. If u like die of painment, e concern u.
Ur initial comment lacks any objective reason and I still insist u go and ask for a refund of ur tuition. Or for ur mind u be objective critic abi?

In case u're afflicted with alzheimers, this is ur initial brainless post:



Does behaving like touts not imply beating up someone for no justifiable reason? Did d said incident happen under PMB's regime? Are Naija security operatives not known for abusing power?

Oh I forget! They were all cuddly angels who wiped tears from our eyes and baked cakes for civilians before PMB's regime.

Did u read in d news that PMB ordered them to beat up d man and not show up in court to face judgment? At least they were charged to court and summoned, is that not a good development on its own?

Since u're quick to attack PMB cos of d misdeeds of security operatives, how many times have u come on NL to shower praises on him when d same operatives do sth laudable?

Talking about courts rising up to face PMB's "tyranny", oga just shut up u no get talk. U're just a pained jobless hater

even though I might not like to say this, but this ur lamenting outburst is that of a zombie.

buhari disobeys court orders, why won't other institution follow the line of the president. they where charged to court and summoned why haven't they appeared, cause their oga at the top ur god, disobeys the court. u are an illiterate so the President has to order them to do evil before they do, just as u guys put it they are following the illiterates body language.

for ur information i can decide to like who I want, its my decision and choice. and the facts remains that buhari is an illiterate sadist, only a myopic personality like u would lick his ass.

for jobless I am comfortable and fine not gullible like u hungry lots who voted to collect 5k..
ZOMBIE.

Ecoterrorist:
We have a record of all the Zombies here so all these latest wailing wont stop us from callingZombies like you out

Talk to the hand

... but why did he refuse to release the information to the DSS concerning the 22 medical expatriates lodged in his Hotel?
DSS need to be more professional in discharging their duties.

Kennydoc:
You appear a lot incorrigible, except that you last 2 statements saved the day.

I appear incorrigible? Smh!

Kennydoc:
I said my statement was overboard, so which figures of speech are you talking about?

I just tire for u. U're d one who said I took ur statement overboard. And I told u I didn't, that I responded exactly to what u said. Or was this not what u said?

Kennydoc:
My statement that disobey of court orders started in this administration might have been taken overboard

Taken overboard by who? Definitely not me. U're d one who made a wrong assertion and changed stance when told to prove it.

Kennydoc:
Disobey of court orders have been worse in this administration, and any objective person will agree with it.

Which u have not still proved. Haba! Why is it so hard? Since u've changed stance to "this admin disobeys court orders more than d previous ones", then provide a catalogue of those flouted orders which according to u, set a precedence for d erring dss operatives to not appear in court.

Kennydoc:
Since the beginning of this administration, we have been inundated with cases of the FG or it's agencies vehemently refusing to obey court orders.
It's now left for you to show us that these things have been since time immemorial.

U just admitted u exaggerated ur point and u're still telling me to prove to u again that court orders were flouted b4 dis regime. What is wrong with u pple nii?

Kennydoc:
You talked about Dasuki, Metuh, Kanu etc. My dear, a court order is a court order. The presidency can't choose which ones to obey and disobey. It breeds illegality, and thus is corruption in itself. If the Judiciary now becomes an appendage of the Executive, how effective do you think the Justice system will be?

Has d presidency/buhari declared categorically that d erring operatives shud not appear in court? I gave u examples of Dasuki et al to jog ur memory since they're d prominent court cases we've been hearing of.
At best, what u've been doing is making strawman arguments.
In ur next post, I want u to list those 'flagrantly' disobeyed court orders and stop beating around d bush.. Dazall! U said we've been inundated with numerous instances frm d start of dis admin abi? Good. List dem

ChokolateBoss:
I appear incorrigible? Smh!


I just tire for u. U're d one who said I took ur statement overboard. And I told u I didn't, that I responded exactly to what u said. Or was this not what u said?

Taken overboard by who? Definitely not me. U're d one who made a wrong assertion and changed stance when told to prove it.


Which u have not still proved. Haba! Why is it so hard? Since u've changed stance to "this admin disobeys court orders more than d previous ones", then provide a catalogue of those flouted orders which according to u, set a precedence for d erring dss operatives to not appear in court.


U just admitted u exaggerated ur point and u're still telling me to prove to u again that court orders were flouted b4 dis regime. What is wrong with u pple nii?

Has d presidency/buhari declared categorically that d erring operatives shud not appear in court? I gave u examples of Dasuki et al to jog ur memory since they're d prominent court cases we've been hearing of.
At best, what u've been doing is making strawman arguments.
In ur next post, I want u to list those 'flagrantly' disobeyed court orders and stop beating around d bush.. Dazall! U said we've been inundated with numerous instances frm d start of dis admin abi? Good. List dem

You can't be asking for the Court orders disobeyed by Buhari, cos you know them. You were not born this month, so you've been following the events around the presidency, especially with regards to the arms deal prosecutions.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/196078-online-petition-asking-buhari-to-resign-gathers-momentum.html
Now tell me how many past Presidents have had petitions against them to resign as a result of disobedience to Court orders.

Even the respected Falana had this to say
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/196564-falana-to-buhari-obey-the-courts-release-dasuki-nnamdi-kanu-immediately.html

No other administration since 1999 has had this kind of dust raised as a result of disobey of court orders, as much as I can remember. You can remind me though.

Kennydoc:
You can't be asking for the Court orders disobeyed by Buhari, cos you know them. You were not born this month, so you've been following the events around the presidency, especially with regards to the arms deal prosecutions.

Yes i can ask u. because d so-called events around d presidency are 99% social media brouhaha with no legal substance. Thanks to d internet plus cheap data/free cheats everywhere, pple can come online to post whatever they like. But ask them to prove their claims, they either start insulting u or beat around d bush.

Kennydoc:
Now tell me how many past Presidents have had petitions against them to resign as a result of disobedience to Court orders.

Lol. This is very funny. How does an insignificant online petition by a group of anti-Buharians translate to proof of anything? When did phones/internet/data become as widespread as we have it today?
Why didn't u also give me d link to d online petition which countered d one above (and I must add, it had far more votes). Or u didn't know of it? Anyway, that's besides d point.

In d link u gave me, this was Falana's opening statement:

"For 16 years that the Peoples Democratic Party was in power, the federal government exhibited total contempt for the Rule of Law. The Constitution and other laws were breached with impunity while court orders were disobeyed on a regular basis."

Did u skip that part? Huh?

Thank u very much for d links tho I've already seen Falana's part b4 now.
As much as I respect Falana, he's not infallible and obviously he didn't get all his facts right b4 he issued his statement; even though d reasoning behind his statement is very sound.

Now lemme tackle ur two instances head-on.
DASUKI:

ChokolateBoss:
Another judge of a FCT High Court in Maitama, Abuja, Justice Peter Affen, on Friday ruled that the continued detention of the immediate past NSA, Col. Sambo Dasuki (retd.), did NOT violate his order granting the ex-NSA bail on December 21, 2015.

The judge dismissed the application by Dasuki seeking to stop his trial for alleged diversion of N19bn arms funds on the grounds that his re-arrest on December 29, 2015 violated the order of the court granting him bail.

Justice Affen ruled that the application lacked merit and ordered that the trial of the ex-NSA, who was charged along with others, must continue.
The judge fixed April 20 and 22, April for trial.

Earlier, Justice Baba Yusuf of the same court had also on February 8 made similar declaration that the detention of the former NSA was in not in breach of his order granting bail to him on December 18, 2015.
The judge had fixed March 23 for commencement of trial....

Dasuki was re-arrested by operatives of the Department of State Service on December 29, 2015 shortly after he was RELEASED from Kuje prison upon fulfilling the bail conditions imposed on him by the two judges of the FCT High Court in Maitama.

Justice Affen ruled on Friday, that since it was clear that the ex-NSA was not re-arrested by the EFCC but by the DSS, the EFCC could not be said to have violated the said order granting him bail...

He also ruled that the order granting bail to the defendant did not preclude him from being re-arrested by other agencies of the Federal Government in respect of other alleged crime...

“The order of court made on December 21, 2015 did not in any way contemplate any government agencies other than the EFCC to whom the order was directed, ”Justice Affen ruled.
While ruling that the EFCC had not violated its order, the judge added even if it did, Dasuki’s lawyer did not show how that could constitute grounds for discharging him or stay the criminal proceedings...

Punchng.com: FG, EFCC DID NOT DISOBEY COURT ORDER

So abeg tell me, which court order was disobeyed? The judges expressly stated that their court orders were not disobeyed and gave a go-ahead for his continued detention and trial. Shikena!
Or u want to tell me d court judges disobeyed their own order?

KANU:

ChokolateBoss:
ABUJA–Justice John Tsoho of the Federal High Court in Abuja has declined to release the detained leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, Mr. Nnamdi Kanu‎ on bail pending his trial.

‎In a ruling today, the court also denied bail to two other pro-Biafra agitators, Benjamin Madubugwu and David Nwawuisi, who are facing trial with Kanu.
‎

Justice Tsoho maintained that the charge against the defendants “is a grave one that will attract severe punishment upon conviction”.

The court noted that the offence that was allegedly committed by the defendants, which borders on treasonable felony, attracts ‎life imprisonment.

It held that the right to personal liberty of any individual takes secondary place once the issue of national security is involved.

Besides, Justice Tsoho observed that the defendants had in an affidavit they deposed in support of their bail application, ‎insisted that they have a right to agitate for self determination.

“The situation as perceived by this court is that there is conflict of interest between the applicants who insist that they have a right to agitate and the respondent (federal government) ‎which argues that it has the responsibility to maintain peace and order.

“Personal liberty of an individual within the contemplation of section 35 of the 1999 constitution is a qualified right that is not absolute. It can be curtailed in other to prevent a person from committing further offence.

“Section 35 cannot be used as a canopy to escape lawful detention by persons suspected to have committed serious crime”, the Judge held.

While ordering that the defendants should remain at Kuje prison, the Judge fixed February 9 to commence their trial.
‎

The trio are answering to a six-count treason charge that was preferred against him by the federal government.
The court had on January 20, remanded them in ‎prison custody shortly after they pleaded not guilty to the charge against them.
They were in the charge that was signed by the DPP, alleged to have committed treasonable felony, an offence said to be punishable under Section 41(C) of the Criminal Code Act, CAP C38 Laws of the Federation of Nigeria.

FG alleged that the accused persons were the ones managing the affairs of the IPOB which it described as“an unlawful society”.
Kanu who is also the Director of Radio Biafra and Television, was specifically alleged to have illegally smuggled radio transmitters into Nigeria.

Source

So my friend, I ask u again, which court orders were disobeyed? The previous charges were dropped and fresh ones filed against him and a high court judge ruled that he should be locked up pending trial.
I hope u've heard it now from d Judge's own mouth

Kennydoc:
No other administration since 1999 has had this kind of dust raised as a result of disobey of court orders, as much as I can remember. You can remind me though.

A baseless claim which u still can't prove.
Pls what dust are u talking about? Is it dust raised by ignorant hate-filled wailers and IPOB youths on NL or twitter? Cos within d judiciary, there's no dust raised since everything done till now is by d order of d court judges.

Pls give me more examples of Buhari/FG 'flagrantly disobeying court orders'. I was expecting u to give me a litany of dem but was surprised to see only two cases. Just two

ChokolateBoss:
Yes i can ask u. because d so-called events around d presidency are 99% social media brouhaha with no legal substance. Thanks to d internet plus cheap data/free cheats everywhere, pple can come online to post whatever they like. But ask them to prove their claims, they either start insulting u or beat around d bush.


Lol. This is very funny. How does an insignificant online petition by a group of anti-Buharians translate to proof of anything? When did phones/internet/data become as widespread as we have it today?
Why didn't u also give me d link to d online petition which countered d one above (and I must add, it had far more votes). Or u didn't know of it? Anyway, that's besides d point.

In d link u gave me, this was Falana's opening statement:

"For 16 years that the Peoples Democratic Party was in power, the federal government exhibited total contempt for the Rule of Law. The Constitution and other laws were breached with impunity while court orders were disobeyed on a regular basis."

Did u skip that part? Huh?

Thank u very much for d links tho I've already seen Falana's part b4 now.
As much as I respect Falana, he's not infallible and obviously he didn't get all his facts right b4 he issued his statement; even though d reasoning behind his statement is very sound.

Now lemme tackle ur two instances head-on.
DASUKI:


So abeg tell me, which court order was disobeyed? The judges expressly stated that their court orders were not disobeyed and gave a go-ahead for his continued detention and trial. Shikena!
Or u want to tell me d court judges disobeyed their own order?

KANU:


So my friend, I ask u again, which court orders were disobeyed? The previous charges were dropped and fresh ones filed against him and a high court judge ruled that he should be locked up pending trial.
I hope u've heard it now from d Judge's own mouth


A baseless claim which u still can't prove.
Pls what dust are u talking about? Is it dust raised by ignorant hate-filled wailers and IPOB youths on NL or twitter? Cos within d judiciary, there's no dust raised since everything done till now is by d order of d court judges.

Pls give me more examples of Buhari/FG 'flagrantly disobeying court orders'. I was expecting u to give me a litany of dem but was surprised to see only two cases. Just two

Not until you give me examples from the previous administrations.

Kennydoc:
Not until you give me examples from the previous administrations.

R u sure u even read d article u posted 4 me?

Obasanjo/FG blatantly flouted d supreme court order given by 7 Justices of d supreme court in d case btw Lagos State and d FG over d FG seizing Lagos L.G.A council allowances.
It was Yar'Adua years later, who complied with d court's instructns

This was referred to by Falana in d link u gave me.

Details of d case are in nigeria-law.org or just google it sef

Both houses of d NA actually started an impeachment process on Obj over constitutional breaches and disobedience of court judgments. Perhaps u didn't follow d brouhaha dat shook both chambers as at d time.
Its All Here

Now that's an example of 'dust' being raised my friend, not d 'dust' of wailers n IPOB jingos on social media.

And as ex-president under GEJ's regime,

A High Court of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT) in Wuse Zone 2, Abuja, has held former President Olusegun Obasanjo in contempt of court for flouting orders restraining him from among others, publishing his autobiography – “My Watch.”
More details

And during GEJ's tenure,

2 federal high court judges and 1 appeal court judge ruled against deployment of soldiers to polling units during elections.

What the courts said:
 
Justice Aikawa restrained the President and INEC “from engaging the service of the Nigerian Armed Forces in the security supervision of elections in any manner whatsoever in any part of Nigeria, without an Act of the National Assembly.”

Justice Abdul Aboki, in his lead judgment in the Ekiti State Governorship Election appeal delivered on February 16, held that “even the President of Nigeria has no powers to call on the Nigerian Armed Forces and to unleash them on peaceful citizens, who are exercising their franchise to elect their leaders.

“Whoever unleashed soldiers on Ekiti State disturbed the peace of the election on June 21, 2014; acted in flagrant breach of the Constitution and flouted the provisions of the Electoral Act, which required an enabling environment by civil authorities in the conduct of elections.”

Source

Also,

Justice Ibrahim Buba of the Federal High Court in Lagos held that the practice of deploying troops of the Nigerian Armed Forces in the conduct of elections when there is no uprising is “anti-democratic” and not in tandem with civil rule and constitutional democracy.
Source

After blatant disregard for d rule of law during d Ekiti elections by using soldiers, GEJ/FG still further disobeyed d court's judgment because soldiers were used in presidential elections and we had reports of wanton harassment n intimidation carried out by soldiers on perceived enemies at d polls.

Did d DSS under GEJ not also unlawfully arrest, detain and harass SLS? After d high court judgment that d FG should pay N50m in damages as well as offer a public apology, was it carried out? Remind me if it was.
Source

DSS said back then they'll appeal d judgment, what has come of it today? Where's d appeal court judgment?

GEJ also disobeyed the court judgment ordering reinstatement of suspended President, Court of Appeal, Hon. Justice Ayo Salami

Kennydoc:
Not until you give me examples from the previous administrations.

Given examples (proved)
Court order disobedience did nt start with dis regime (proved)
FG did not disobey court orders on Nnamdi n Dasuki, according to d court judges themselves (proved)
Ur claims are baseless (proved)

bonechamberlain:
even though I might not like to say this, but this ur lamenting outburst is that of a zombie.

buhari disobeys court orders, why won't other institution follow the line of the president. they where charged to court and summoned why haven't they appeared, cause their oga at the top ur god, disobeys the court. u are an illiterate so the President has to order them to do evil before they do, just as u guys put it they are following the illiterates body language.

for ur information i can decide to like who I want, its my decision and choice. and the facts remains that buhari is an illiterate sadist, only a myopic personality like u would lick his ass.

for jobless I am comfortable and fine not gullible like u hungry lots who voted to collect 5k..
ZOMBIE.

Ad hominem fallacies and baseless claims that hold no water. Come n engage me in a logical n factual debate n stop nagging like a frustrated hag

ChokolateBoss:
Ad hominem fallacies and baseless claims that hold no water. Come n engage me in a logical n factual debate n stop nagging like a frustrated hag

so u still dey ... bye bye .