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dmcdad:
First things first... What is the aim or the objective(s) of the club each season? This will enable one to properly evaluate Arsene. If their aim is a top-four finish and Wenger gives them that, will it be termed bad? I don't think so. But if the target is to win trophies, then that is when one would say he is underachieving.

The last time I checked, the board's main concern is a place in the following season's Champions League. As long as they make enough on the financial aspect of the game they are ok. Now, has it changed? That is what we need to know in order to properly assess Wenger.

SIRcumalot:
even if you sack Wenger,who wan replace am ?
asking for change when you don't know wetin fit happen na big risk.
spurs was supposed to hire LVG before we hijack the move pochettino who is doing very currently, na their backup option.
them for dey enjoy philosophy now.

Spy360:
Arsenal created clear scoring chances just as Barca, the difference in the finishing. Our finishing was disgraceful.

It was mesmerising watching MSN, those guys na cheat I tell you. Life could never be so unfair.

Spy360:
NL would be sentenced to two weeks of boringness. Ramdeuter would start self servicing again.

O0ooo!

edoyad:
Dortmund are currently thrashing Spurs meaning ramdeuter will be singing about EPL for two weeks ?

Spy360:
NL would be sentenced to two weeks of boringness. Ramdeuter would start self servicing again.
O0ooo!

chrisley024:
Barca na cheat jor! How one team go get all those 3 guys.

SIRcumalot:
even if you sack Wenger,who wan replace am ?
asking for change when you don't know wetin fit happen na big risk.
spurs was supposed to hire LVG before we hijack the move pochettino who is doing very currently, na their backup option.
them for dey enjoy philosophy now.

ollah1:
The greediness of your coach made Suarez sign for Barca under his nose. It's a pity and I'm glad the guy scored a screamer at the perfect time to make him further have sleepless nights

SIRcumalot:
even if you sack Wenger,who wan replace am ?
asking for change when you don't know wetin fit happen na big risk.
spurs was supposed to hire LVG before we hijack the move pochettino who is doing very currently, na their backup option.
them for dey enjoy philosophy now.

ollah1:
The greediness of your coach made Suarez sign for Barca under his nose. It's a pity and I'm glad the guy scored a screamer at the perfect time to make him further have sleepless nights

Spy360:
What transpired should not be entirely blamed on Wenger due to the dynamism of that transfer saga.

Permit me to explain...

Suarez had a very complex transfer clause which Liverpool were not willing to reveal.

But Suarez then wanted to move, he needed Champions league and also a different atmosphere due to the moral issues he was facing. Wenger too was interested and put in several bids. Suarez wanted Arsenal.

Suarez's agent who was ignorant of the complex clause, advised Arsene to bid £40m. Arsene thought he had activated his release clause, but it was later revealed after the intervention of the FA that the clause stated 'if a bid in excess of £40m is made, Liverpool may allow Suarez to discuss with the other club'.

The frustration made Wenger to then add the extra pound.

Meanwhile, Gerrard had talked Suarez out of the idea, and he chose to stay for another season.
(He would be ever grateful to Gerrard I think)

Other consequences of the transfer saga was that Wenger lost Higuain to Napoli, while hoping for Suarez.

My point however is that the deal was never going to happen.

Spy360:
I take solace in the impressive performances of the young ones:

Bellerin- though not as good as he was last year

Iwobi- showed tremendous confidence for his age against such big opponents

Elneny- energetic with confident passing, and what a sublime goal

Coquelin- brilliant tackles should have learnt alot from Busquets

We sure have a bright future.

sleekdot:
There is no one guaranteed of anything when you make a change

With Wenger you know say na sure fourphy and CL second round bashing steady

With another coach it could get better and it could get worse

Are you prepared to fear the unknown and stick to the current mediocrity

dmcdad:
This I think is the reality. They are well concerned about the financial aspect of things, and that is evident in the amount of money the club makes every season. I must say Arsenal make a staggering sum of money for a club that doesn't win trophies.

So it seems the aim is about finances. I got to learn about this some 3-4 seasons ago and since then I fully grasped the idea behind Wenger's mode of spending and him not winning trophies as fans would expect, and also why his job is ultimately secured.

Now have you sat down to imagine if the board were to give him or rather have always set in stone the objective of winning trophies, they wouldn't have sacked him long before now? No matter how patient they are or can be, if his objectives were a negation of what I posted above, then I think he would have been showed the door.

Let's see what happens though. But unless they change their season's objectives, then I think Arsene will remain for the foreseeable future.

Spy360:
What transpired should not be entirely blamed on Wenger due to the dynamism of that transfer saga.

Permit me to explain...

Suarez had a very complex transfer clause which Liverpool were not willing to reveal.

But Suarez then wanted to move, he needed Champions league and also a different atmosphere due to the moral issues he was facing. Wenger too was interested and put in several bids. Suarez wanted Arsenal.

Suarez's agent who was ignorant of the complex clause, advised Arsene to bid £40m. Arsene thought he had activated his release clause, but it was later revealed after the intervention of the FA that the clause stated 'if a bid in excess of £40m is made, Liverpool may allow Suarez to discuss with the other club'.

The frustration made Wenger to then add the extra pound.

Meanwhile, Gerrard had talked Suarez out of the idea, and he chose to stay for another season.
(He would be ever grateful to Gerrard I think)

Other consequences of the transfer saga was that Wenger lost Higuain to Napoli, while hoping for Suarez.

My point however is that the deal was never going to happen.

dmcdad:
Honestly, I think the duo of Welbeck and Iwobi up front have lots of potentials. If they can get a run of games, and maybe with a bit of luck on their side, then i think they will do just fine.

They combined well last night. I was particularly impressed by the showings of Iwobi. He really made things difficult for Barça defenders on the night. I think they can both be decisive with their combination and also with being lethal in front of goal.

What do you think about their combo last night, and what are the odds against them forming a good partnership?

Spy360:
They both have similar plays; skillful on the ball and movement with pace. Their skill set can cause a lot of trouble for opposition defence, but both are terrible in front of goal. They both lack the killer instint top strikers should have. They are better off as wingers.

pickabeau1:
I learned this and I stopped buying arsenal merchandise also

dmcdad:
Madrid are also suffering partially from the same thing. Perez is more concerned about the business aspect of the club and making money with less emphasis on the footballing aspect of things.

pickabeau1:
Nah

Peres is also concerned about footballing success
Hence he tolerated a boring Mou style especially after the Manita

The mistake he has made is sacking carlotti even after he delivered the decima..weird

dmcdad:
You don't understand what's up bruv. Pérez's primary aim is money and not football, hence my initial statement.

What do you think is the primary aim of making those Galactico signings? Do you think its primarily for the sporting purpose? Nah... First things first, its primary aim is for the financial gain it will bring, and then the footballing aspect.

The same thing I am saying is what even Madrid directors are complaining of. Perez obviously doesn't work with the board in taking decisions. A director of the club made the same statement I made earlier on, that Perez only cares about the financial aspect of things as against the sporting aspect. Need I tell you also that the latest interview Benitez had as regards his departure from Madrid reaffirmed what I have been saying? He made the same statement too.

I guess I ain't wrong afterall.

pickabeau1:
But he knows he has to be careful so the socios don't boot him out

He has a stay of execution though especially after the decima

Though last year's treble must have pained the Blancos

sleekdot:
The second team in EPL is getting the lesson of their season

Aubameyang 2-0

dmcdad:
Subotic just go dash them 1 goal.

raumdeuter:
That silly Subotic. just ruin home and away clean sheet

Chelsea Arsenal Spurs (home and away loss) complete

raumdeuter:
That silly Subotic. just ruin home and away clean sheet

Chelsea Arsenal Spurs (home and away loss) complete

Debroslink:
EPL clubs gangbanged all over Europe. The league is fast becoming a laughing stock.

dmcdad:
EPL the best league in the world by a distant. Oooops.

Let's see how Liverpool will fare in the Europa. As for Citey, them don reach their final bus stop.