₦airaland Forum

emaculate99:
If Nigeria is really meant to be united and blended into a single united country through amalgamation, do you think there will be need for us calling for unity everyday? The constant call of unity after amalgamation is as a result of the fact that amalgamation of the country has failed to unite the people. why should we still continue to make use of something that has failed in what it is meant to do? Is it not a mistake if such amalgamation failed in performing what is necessary intended for?

horlapelumi:
also in history you will agree that tribes in Nigeria have something in common, they come from the same geographical location. And as i have earlier stated amalgamation was not imposed rather it was posited without any opposition which means it is good enough to work with

OAUTemitayo:
The poor state of the country is borne of mediocrity imposed by the use of tribal consideration above expertise.
JAMB is a very good example

emaculate99:
If Nigeria is really meant to be united and blended into a single united country through amalgamation, do you think there will be need for us calling for unity everyday? The constant call of unity after amalgamation is as a result of the fact that amalgamation of the country has failed to unite the people. why should we still continue to make use of something that has failed in what it is meant to do? Is it not a mistake if such amalgamation failed in performing what is necessary intended for?

horlapelumi:
In answering that, i would like you to know that an implied consent is deem to be legal consent in law. consider the reactions of our people when the proclamation was made, no agitation against it whatsoever which simply means, go ahead, we are behind you.

why bring in Contract when common sense has the answer

horlapelumi:
This argument of yours is almost brilliant but not brilliant, considering the fact that you fail to consider the reason for the agitation and when has this agitation been on. Do we have to trace this calls to an act of 1914? Do we have to be fooled by our leaders who are harping their failure on amalgamation instead of working out their lapses?

Well the reason for all the calls for Peace is simple; ’Nigerians love being together, only few people play up issue of regionalism and tribalism. Our problem is accentuated by few individuals. It requires evaluation and the need to explore our diversity for strength and unity. Wherever you find yourself look at what unite you

horlapelumi:
This argument of yours is almost brilliant but not brilliant, considering the fact that you fail to consider the reason for the agitation and when has this agitation been on. Do we have to trace this calls to an act of 1914? Do we have to be fooled by our leaders who are harping their failure on amalgamation instead of working out their lapses?
Well the reason for all the calls for Peace is simple; ’Nigerians love being together, only few people play up issue of regionalism and tribalism. Our problem is accentuated by few individuals. It requires evaluation and the need to explore our diversity for strength and unity. Wherever you find yourself look at what unite you

emaculate99:
How can their be opposition when you have been conquered? The people have been conquered, they have no opposition that can work if they want to oppose. It still hold that with the fact that there is no request for advice or recourse for the people's interest or without consultation, the british imposed amalgamation on the people. Or are you trying to say that imposition no longer means to force something on people without their consultation?

Does coming from Africa a necessary reason for the tribes to be joined? that is why it was said that the british failed to consult the people before allowing themselves to be misguided that all Africans can be joined together but their culture are different. If that is the case, France suppose to merge Benin Republic, Chad and Niger together because they all come from the same geographical location.

Timidelaw:
This as well as your last question makes me feel you are yet to get the topic. 1914 Almagamation; an Historical mistake(I blatantly oppose this). What exactly are we saying? It's simply not the act(cause we are not responsible for that) but the result(which we should take full responsibility for) So why even tell us all what the British guys have said?

Timidelaw:
So the fact that one governor refuses to develop his state is also due to tribalism(or in your words, tribal consideration)..... my respectful opponent, please now

That exactly is what we stand to say.... lets take charge of our nation and do that which is needed. The states even while existing alone have failed in all respect to provide the needed for its people, but we rather blame amalgamation for this

Timidelaw:
Why say too much of our diversity and give this as an excuse. "As a large united multi-national state, China is composed of 56 ethnic groups."

ElectGINeer:
No offence Please.
I don't think the LASU representative understand the topic.
What are the result of the amalgamation?
The British do it for their own profit without consulting the victims.

ElectGINeer:
No offence Please.
I don't think the LASU representative understand the topic.
What are the result of the amalgamation?
The British do it for their own profit without consulting the victims.

Xynerise: My question goes to Horlapelumi.

Your last statement in capital letters sounds sarcastic. Does living together for 100 years means we have been united for 100 years?

Slaves can be with their masters for 20 years but still pray for a day of freedom.

OAUTemitayo:
You failed to admit the differences between the people of Nigeria.
While the Igbos are Christians and abhor Sharia law, the Hausas are Muslims and are clamouring for Sharia which the others won't hear of.
Why can't they just go their way?

OAUTemitayo:
The same China where Tibetans cannot vote in their own land!
And for your information, Chinese have a common bond called Mandarin

cyndylove64:
oau i have a question?if amalgation was a historic mistake am sure the educated elites clamouring for independence neva saw it as a mistake.bsyd we all know that if nigeria was not amalgamated d yorubas fulani nd igbos will all be consumed by greed.now nigeria was founded as far bak as 11century.now my question is.will u have preferred war to being amalgamted.or do u tink the educated elites saw the amalgamatiin has a mistake.what country wasn't to form a state.again sum 1 said isreal was born out oof a single tribe through jacob..hmmmm.it is said absolute power corrupts absolutely.amalgamation is not the problem or mistake bt hunger for power d greed of it.if not for amalgamation were will decomarcy lie.thank you

horlapelumi:
This same set of people that have been conquered successfully fought for independence? Even after independence they never talked about discarding amalgamation. Yet you think they are not happy with it? Lets be logical a bit; British goverment of then would do anything to keep Nigeria under them but they could not because people rose and stood their grounds and even with little objection among themselves they won the course. What do you think would take this people to fight against amalgamation? Just voices of the minority would surfice but such voice was not raised simply because they were contempted with it.

Try to find out if everyone from Benin, Chad and Niger speak the same language. That can give you a clue.

OAUTemitayo:
What is our nation? I have nothing in common with Sharia enforcers.
Isn't amalgamation the reason why the Yorubas of Kogi were merged with the North against their own consent?
Is that the force of their leaders?

Timidelaw:
thanks for the info, am yet to oppose that, but my point remains, aver 50 ethnic groups. Also a deeper reading into history will let you understand that no group of people have no common bond including Africa(Nigeria).

OAUTemitayo:

Are you saying you can forced people into a union without their consent?

horlapelumi:
You also fail to recognize the fact that Nigeria accommodates different religions, tribe and system of law. The constitution gives no room for state religion, is that the crime?
For the hausas clamoring for Sharia, they can easily get it because the constitution provides that "there shall be for any state that requires it a sharia court" and also "there shall be a shariah court of appeal of the federal capital territory". what else do the want? All this excuses of tribal differences and religious differences are like fisher men arguments, they hold no water in laws and in facts.

cyndylove64:
oau i have a question?if amalgation was a historic mistake am sure the educated elites clamouring for independence neva saw it as a mistake.bsyd we all know that if nigeria was not amalgamated d yorubas fulani nd igbos will all be consumed by greed.now nigeria was founded as far bak as 11century.now my question is.will u have preferred war to being amalgamted.or do u tink the educated elites saw the amalgamatiin has a mistake.what country wasn't to form a state.again sum 1 said isreal was born out oof a single tribe through jacob..hmmmm.it is said absolute power corrupts absolutely.amalgamation is not the problem or mistake bt hunger for power d greed of it.if not for amalgamation were will decomarcy lie.thank you

horlapelumi:
Fynestboi, thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear that but i can only do that if you look at whatever precedes that paragraph.
We have been together and still together because we are not together by mistake. Our years of union is far more than our years of independence, even though this years have been with different challenges the same way couple marry and go through series of challenges but that does not mean their union was a mistake at the first place, those things only make them stronger the same way Nigeria is now.
Don't you think the amalgamation would have been dissolved if it were a mistake during the civil war? Its did not simply because it was built for us to live with......

Xynerise: For Timidelaw

Every country has its own economic problems. Amalgamation is not the sole problem of Nigeria in terms of economic instability or other economic related problems. I believe the topic wants you to talk about the benefits of 1914 Amalgamation in Nigeria as against the inter-tribal war and disunity we have been experiencing in Nigeria.

According to one of the debaters, A region in Nigeria believes power belongs to them alone. I don't see that coming in a united nation.