₦airaland Forum

olrotimi:
I get it, the average Nigerian hopes that corruption gets stamped out by all means but Mr Falana has taken it personal, ignoring the professional oath he took at his call you bar.
It would be prejudice to deny an 'accused' bail when he hasn't been proven guilty by the court. A convict doesn't need bail.
Abi himself has joined the bandwagon of media conviction which is synonymous with this administration?

My guy don't worry, Buhari would reconsider you when he shuffles his cabinet

Accused murderers and armed robbers are not entitled to bail. So, Falana is only advocating we treat people accused of corruption similarly. Looking at the level of corruption in the system, I don't think it's a bad idea. We need to start fighting corruption with all seriousness and not with kid gloves.

Ribaman:
On contrary, only those who do not know what the 'Rule of Law' means would canvas such a position. I am against corruption in the form or shape, but find that the 'Rule of Law' meant to protect us all.

Rule of LAw should not protect those who abuse it.

Who look for court injunctions to delay justice.

olrotimi:
I get it, the average Nigerian hopes that corruption gets stamped out by all means but Mr Falana has taken it personal, ignoring the professional oath he took at his call you bar.
It would be prejudice to deny an 'accused' bail when he hasn't been proven guilty by the court. A convict doesn't need bail.
Abi himself has joined the bandwagon of media conviction which is synonymous with this administration?

My guy don't worry, Buhari would reconsider you when he shuffles his cabinet

The most sensible comment i read here

seunmsg:
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Accused murderers and armed robbers are not entitled to bail. S[/b]o, Falana is only advocating we treat people accused of corruption similarly. Looking at the level of corruption in the system, I don't think it's a bad idea. We need to start fighting corruption with all seriousness and not with kid gloves.

Sorry which law says at bolded? Kindly quote me th relevant sections to back it up

The same Falana that said Stella Odua could only appeal to God? I stopped taking that man serious from the moment it was confirmed that Supreme Court didn't actually remove Stella odua

seunmsg:
I support Femi Falana, if we are serious about fighting corruption, we really need to get very tough on people accused of stealing our country dry. Our laws are just too soft and provides big loopholes for corrupt people to get away. Anybody accused of stealing N10million and above should not be granted bail until the case is finally decided.

are u really serious on the bolded? so if i accuse u of stealing while serving in government, u should be thrown to jail without bail. how would u be able to defend urself if the accusation is PHANTOM. do u really know why the judicial/legal system was setup? Or are u trying to say that every accused is a criminal that should be denied bail without fair hearing and conviction.

You should even be advocating for Jungle Justice, accused and be jailed without conviction. #smh

mehn i can't believe ma ears

So on point. I propose we adopt the Chinese model, shoot the looters, and take everything they stole back.

seunmsg:
I support Femi Falana, if we are serious about fighting corruption, we really need to get very tough on people accused of stealing our country dry. Our laws are just too soft and provides big loopholes for corrupt people to get away. Anybody accused of stealing N10million and above should not be granted bail until the case is finally decided.

I can imagine the stern look on the face of those criminals that populate the national assembly. Assembly of looters and criminals.

seunmsg:
Dictatorship is far better form of government than democracy if the state wants rapid development. The problem is, it is always difficult to find a patriotic, intelligent, pragmatic, well intentioned and selfless dictator. The few countries like Singapore that have been fortunate to have dictators with these characteristics are great countries today. But the problem is, almost all dictators are selfish, corrupt, intellectually poor and self centred. The good ones are rear to find.

We all know that most dictators are self-serving megalomaniacs who play god with the lives of their citizens.

Who will want to gamble their life on the chance that the "dictator" will be benevolent ?

It is interesting to note that the singaporeans were not campaigning to have a dictator installed,
in fact lee kuan yew was democratically elected.

Since humans always have the tendency to abuse power , it turns out that the most important ingredient of a successful government is self-regulation.

Any system of government which doesn't have it will fail, but democratic system have more chance of attaining
self-regulation than others.

Fedayeen:
Sorry which law says at bolded? Kindly quote me th relevant sections to back it up

Armed robbery and murder are not bailable offence. It is common knowledge. Use google to search for the relevant laws.

No wonder this man never made past his chambers. What a disgrace to the legal system.....u dnt jst keep people in jail for bn accused na.....wonder what is lecturers will be thinking right now

Is this man CLEAN?!

seunmsg:
Armed robbery and murder are not bailable offence. It is common knowledge. Use google to search for the relevant laws.

If I slap u ehn....even person wey kill 9 pple for south carolina was given bail of around a hundred million dollars.
.........Derek is bail but most tym it's set so high dat it's not an option

seunmsg:
Accused murderers and armed robbers are not entitled to bail. So, Falana is only advocating we treat people accused of corruption similarly. Looking at the level of corruption in the system, I don't think it's a bad idea. We need to start fighting corruption with all seriousness and not with kid gloves.

That is not entirely true in reality,
Some armed robbery and murder suspects do get bail once
in a while.
It is all about context, you can't treat a man who killed another
while fighting the same way you treat an hired assassin , that will be injustice.

AntiWailer:
Rule of LAw should not protect those who abuse it.

Who look for court injunctions to delay justice.

How do you know who has abused the rule of law without trial ?
Guilty by pronouncement ?

romme2u:
are u really serious on the bolded? so if i accuse u of stealing while serving in government, u should be thrown to jail without bail. how would u be able to defend urself if the accusation is PHANTOM. do u really know why the judicial/legal system was setup? Or are u trying to say that every accused is a criminal that should be denied bail without fair hearing and conviction.

You should even be advocating for Jungle Justice, accused and be jailed without conviction. #smh

mehn i can't believe ma ears

He must be one of those who burn people with tires just
because someone shouted "thief"

Nigeria is blessed with too many thieves making it true that a people deserve the kind of leaders they get.

elmisti:
No wonder this man never made past his chambers. What a disgrace to the legal system.....u dnt jst keep people in jail for bn accused na.....wonder what is lecturers will be thinking right now

No wonder your country is the poorest oil exporter in the world, ranking with the poorest countries on every development indices.

romme2u:
are u really serious on the bolded? so if i accuse u of stealing while serving in government, u should be thrown to jail without bail. how would u be able to defend urself if the accusation is PHANTOM. do u really know why the judicial/legal system was setup? Or are u trying to say that every accused is a criminal that should be denied bail without fair hearing and conviction.

You should even be advocating for Jungle Justice, accused and be jailed without conviction. #smh

mehn i can't believe ma ears

People have been innocently accused of murders, denied bail for a long time before they get discharged and acquitted. Fact is, there will always be collateral damage in every criminal justice system.

People get killed for corruption in china. So, detaining people accused of corruption until they are found guilty or innocent is not too big a price to pay to rid our country of corrupt leaders.

AntiWailer:
Only PDP thieves and iPOB youths will disagree.

There is [b]evidence of billions transferred with account statement [/b]and wailers are still screaming witch hunt.

Anybody with money traced to his account and the money belong to the govt should not be granted bail.

This one that Saraki is going to court with 400 lawyers and FBI over loots.

Meanwhile a guy stole 6 goats in the same Ilorin and was beaten to death.

Please save me the one sided fight crap l, if PDP and Jonathan have been doing 1 sided fight against corruption since they came to power at least Tinubu and co would av been jailed and finished their jail term if he was truelly a thief.

You are obviously ignorant and your mentality is only good
for the jungle.

When does transferring money from government to companies
or individuals becomes a crime ?

I am sure it is this kind of belief that is making EFCC not to have
a headway.

You can't charge someone for collecting money for a service,
you can only charge them for not delivering.

neocortex:
That is not entirely true in reality,
Some armed robbery and murder suspects do get bail once
in a while.
It is all about context, you can't treat a man who killed another
while fighting the same way you treat an hired assassin , that will be injustice.

Murder is murder in any context and it is not a bailable offence. Please note that all killings are not murder. Manslaughter and second degree homicide are not murder. Those are the ones you may get bail for not murder.

AntiWailer:
Only PDP thieves and iPOB youths will disagree.

There is evidence of billions transferred with account statement and wailers are still screaming witch hunt.

Anybody with money traced to his account and the money belong to the govt should not be granted bail.

This one that Saraki is going to court with 400 lawyers and FBI over loots.

Meanwhile a guy stole 6 goats in the same Ilorin and was beaten to death.

Please save me the one sided fight crap l, if PDP and Jonathan have been doing 1 sided fight against corruption since they came to power at least Tinubu and co would av been jailed and finished their jail term if he was truelly a thief.

Gbam

elmisti:
If I slap u ehn....even person wey kill 9 pple for south carolina was given bail of around a hundred million dollars.
.........Derek is bail but most tym it's set so high dat it's not an option

And south carolina laws are applicable to Nigeria right?

romme2u:
are u really serious on the bolded? so if i accuse u of stealing while serving in government, u should be thrown to jail without bail. how would u be able to defend urself if the accusation is PHANTOM. do u really know why the judicial/legal system was setup? Or are u trying to say that every accused is a criminal that should be denied bail without fair hearing and conviction.

You should even be advocating for Jungle Justice, accused and be jailed without conviction. #smh

mehn i can't believe ma ears

Femi Falana is the fada of clowns.

A human rights lawyer/activist advocating for this kind of nonsense should never be taken seriously.

seunmsg:
And south carolina laws are applicable to Nigeria right?

Lol, nd tell me wch nation is championing human right if nt USA.......u knw, u av lived so much in this zoo u seem to 4get what bn human means

Aigbofa:
No wonder your country is the poorest oil exporter in the world, ranking with the poorest countries on every development indices.

And as long as our lawyers abandon fundamental ethics the way Falana jst did, our country will be poorer than a church rat!

seunmsg:
Murder is murder in any context and it is not a bailable offence. Please note that all killings are not murder. Manslaughter and second degree homicide are not murder. Those are the ones you may get bail for not murder.

Kindly quote the section of the constitution that back up your claim.

It appears you are confusing being charged with murder and being convicted
of one.

The law has no interest in keeping anyone in jail except there is a genuine reason for it
(e.g being a threat or possibility of absconding).

You cannot punish an accused for a crime he/she is yet to be convicted of.

TANTUMERGO007:
who takes falana serious?

pdp armed robber, loot conspirator n country's sarbotager sitted..

neocortex:
He must be one of those who burn people with tires just
because someone shouted "thief"

i tell u.
bunch of crass

elmisti:
And as long as our lawyers abandon fundamental ethics the way Falana jst did, our country will be poorer than a church rat!

Not true, it is part of human rights to protect people whose lives are affected by unbridled corruption.
If there's is a reasonable evidence that a crime has been committed why would any sane judge grant an injunction against detention and prosecution?

This is what is going on in Nigeria and it is dumb. Do armed robbers get such a treatment?

seunmsg:
People have been innocently accused of murders, denied bail for a long time before they get discharged and acquitted. Fact is, there will always be collateral damage in every criminal justice system.

People get killed for corruption in china. So, detaining people accused of corruption until they are found guilty or innocent is not too big a price to pay to rid our country of corrupt leaders.

instead of researching for a better way to make the system efficient and effective thereby reducing injustice, u went all for this.

i hope if u or ur relations become part of the collateral damage, u won't cry foul. Or why don't u propose Jungle Justice so that there will be no need to waste money and time on justice.

So if i accuse the current president of nepotism, would he be kept in jail until judgement is pronounced

Aigbofa:
Not true, it is part of human rights to protect people whose lives are affected by unbridled corruption.
If there's is a reasonable evidence that a crime has been committed why would any sane judge grant an injunction against detention and prosecution?

This is what is going on in Nigeria and it is dumb. Do armed robbers get such a treatment?

Bro, cool down ehn. Am from kwara state so u should know how badly I want to see corrupt leaders wiped off but as long as democracy is the system, everyone, and I repeat EVERYONE yet to be convicted of a crime is entitled to bail as long as he is nt a threat or liable to abscond......in any sane world what a lawyer gets for his client first is bail before anything. That's how tinz work. Imagine we put everyone accused of corruption in jail, the whole maitama and lekki will be prisons already