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Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by patrick89(m): 8:04am On Apr 12, 2016
seunmsg:
You bigots have no shame I swear. How is this rail project about Yorubas being cunny? Why you guys are trying desperately to destroy a project that will benefit all southerners is what I don't understand.

For your information, the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway project was conceived and designed by the Goodluck Jonathan administration. The PMB administration only saw the sense in the project and decided to continue with it. It is not a Yoruba project as you are desperately trying to portray it.

Cross River is a state with huge tourist potentials. Making the state easily accessible to almost all parts of southern Nigeria through high speed rail is a project that should not even cause any argument. How can you develop calabars tourist potentials if people can't access the state easily?

And please, stop comparing the ibaka sea port with the railway project. They are two distinct projects meant to serve different purposes. Both are desirable and one should not be cancelled for the other. Any reasonable person from the south south should support the Lagos-calabar rail project and still push for the Ibaka sea port. Calling for the cancelling of the rail project because government is not finding the sea port project is simply crass.
what do you care? I know how you kicked against ibaka sea port, so why are you supporting this mirage? We know your antics!!!
The Op has said it all its only the shallow mind that will not understand what the op is saying..
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by obailala(m): 8:22am On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT:
I can not figure out how you reason!! You have no argument here, what concerns another opinion made by someone else with mine? let me stop here you don't worth the long epistle.
Apologies if my generalised opinion irks you. But I was seriously appalled by the responses I got in a similar thread, hence my generalisations.
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by mapet: 9:24am On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT:
For me, I don't hide my opinion about things like this, I don't try to impress anyone or to be politically correct. I will allow you to bring up the ibaka sea project by Godswill Akpabio, you will discover the way some sections of the media propagated how unviable the project will be, they attacked and attacked the project to a halt.. now fast forward to 2016 a railway project was claimed to have budgeted for in this year infrastructure budget to a whooping sum of 60billion dollars.. choi! and the national assembly removed them because they are hindering the success of PMB (that's what they want us to believe)lol.. This same project was denied by Budgit.com at least they're somehow credible because they published the first budget when it was passed, stolen, padded and represented again (LWTMB! this budget don suffer what a funny country).
Now looking at the attention diversion strategy the conspirators of this drama, actually wanted to put the masses against nass, and absorb PMB from the blame. now ask yourself, why did the newspapers report that the Nass removed those project, ? "Mind you the main target here is Calabar -lagos railway line" the reason is to divert attention and blame...
Then on another angle, why is the railway line seem to be more important to calabar than to lagos?
what and what have changed on viability of calabar/akwaibom to host sea port, but railway line by some sections of the media propaganda. The answer is simple, the railway line is a project that's aimed at diverting attention and those supporting it now, are supporting it because it's not a project that will give you (south south) economic independence,rather a parasitic one to lagos...
why not use that same money to make all the coastlines viable for goods and services.. they will come and tell me how important the mirage railway line will be,but they'll never tell you same about ibaka sea
shine your eyes! this project is a poisonous project aimed at diverting a lot of things not only attention!
Bros,

Your post is laced with crass ignorance and bile, this has probably robbed it of the intellectual value it should have been. Ibaka port is Akwa Ibom state project. PDP was in government for virtually the whole time the port was conceptualised, yet it never materialised. You should ask yourself why? You blame a government that is trying to get off to start for a supposed project (a state project for that matter) that Akwa Ibom could not bring to light? Meanwhile are these port projects not supposed to be private sector led?

Now my tots on the project is even different. The Akwa Ibom state government may not be able to muster the strength to pull it off as quickly as Lagos did Lekki FTZ Port and Airport. The two environments are different, Lagos is light years ahead of Akwa Ibom on all fronts and investors will see through these criteria to put their money.

Now to the Cal-Lag rail........
1. What still baffles me is that you lot seem so myopic that you cannot see the big picture. How can you be looking for the benefit of Lagos or Calabar in isolation when the rail line will traverse Calabar >> Uyo >> Aba >> PortHarcourt >> Yenegoa >> Otuoke >> Yenegoa >> Ugheli >> Warri >> Sapele >> Benin >> Agbor >> Asaba >> Onitsha >> Benin >> Ore >> Ijebu Ode >> Sagamu >> Lagos. Or do you think the rail line will fly on water from Lagos to Calabar?

2. Some of you people are your own worst enemies. How in the world can you say a rail project that is passing through 11 south-south cities is "aimed at diverting attention and those supporting it now, are supporting it because it's not a project that will give you (south south) economic independence,rather a parasitic one to lagos". What other development are you looking for? Are you going to force ships to a non-existent and not-to-be-in-the-near-term Ibaka port?

3. South Easterners like you need to ask yourself what do you truly want? 2nd Niger bridge, you complain, Cal-Lagos Rail you complain.........
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by mapet: 9:32am On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT:
whenever issue that bothers on economy comes up, yorubas dump party affiliation, same with hausafulani but igbo people can not see beyond party! we are talking of economy here!!! the sw people are cunny! their plan is very simple! can't you see it?? why is it very difficult?
I just confirmed that you're bigot-ridden and illogically twisted soul. So to you it is about how the "he sw people are cunny"? I was wondering how you're struggling to make sense and making no progress at it
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by donstevoz(m): 9:47am On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT:
For me, I don't hide my opinion about things like this, I don't try to impress anyone or to be politically correct. I will allow you to bring up the ibaka sea project by Godswill Akpabio, you will discover the way some sections of the media propagated how unviable the project will be, they attacked and attacked the project to a halt.. now fast forward to 2016 a railway project was claimed to have budgeted for in this year infrastructure budget to a whooping sum of 60billion dollars.. choi! and the national assembly removed them because they are hindering the success of PMB (that's what they want us to believe)lol.. This same project was denied by Budgit.com at least they're somehow credible because they published the first budget when it was passed, stolen, padded and represented again (LWTMB! this budget don suffer what a funny country).
Now looking at the attention diversion strategy the conspirators of this drama, actually wanted to put the masses against nass, and absorb PMB from the blame. now ask yourself, why did the newspapers report that the Nass removed those project, ? "Mind you the main target here is Calabar -lagos railway line" the reason is to divert attention and blame...
Then on another angle, why is the railway line seem to be more important to calabar than to lagos?
what and what have changed on viability of calabar/akwaibom to host sea port, but railway line by some sections of the media propaganda. The answer is simple, the railway line is a project that's aimed at diverting attention and those supporting it now, are supporting it because it's not a project that will give you (south south) economic independence,rather a parasitic one to lagos...
why not use that same money to make all the coastlines viable for goods and services.. they will come and tell me how important the mirage railway line will be,but they'll never tell you same about ibaka sea
shine your eyes! this project is a poisonous project aimed at diverting a lot of things not only attention!
You write like a kid sir. Political correctness won't kill you in Jesus name! And what is it wit 'diverting attention' , did you come across it newly?
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by akulaxx: 12:19pm On Apr 12, 2016
ONNE IS NOT A DEEP SEA LOCATION, BUT IBAKA IS.

IN DEEP SEA LARGE OCEAN VESSEL CAN COME AND DISCHARGE GOODS DIRECTLY. UNLIKE TINCAN OR APAPA WHICH ARE NOT DEEP SEA.

OCEAN VESSEL ONLY COME TO DEEP SEA PORTS DEPTH OF ABOUT 359METER DEEP
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by PRXPERT(op): 12:34pm On Apr 12, 2016
obailala:
Apologies if my generalised opinion irks you. But I was seriously appalled by the responses I got in a similar thread, hence my generalisations.
apologies accepted!! go and sin no more
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by PRXPERT(op): 12:38pm On Apr 12, 2016
donstevoz:
You write like a kid sir. Political correctness won't kill you in Jesus name! And what is it wit 'diverting attention' , did you come across it newly?
I would have allowed you to go by but no! I don't allow stupid people around here. oya swerve!! everybody has seen your stupidity
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by LordAdam:
seunmsg:
You bigots have no shame I swear. How is this rail project about Yorubas being cunny? Why you guys are trying desperately to destroy a project that will benefit all southerners is what I don't understand.

For your information, the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway project was conceived and designed by the Goodluck Jonathan administration. The PMB administration only saw the sense in the project and decided to continue with it. It is not a Yoruba project as you are desperately trying to portray it.

Cross River is a state with huge tourist potentials. Making the state easily accessible to almost all parts of southern Nigeria through high speed rail is a project that should not even cause any argument. How can you develop calabars tourist potentials if people can't access the state easily?

And please, stop comparing the ibaka sea port with the railway project. They are two distinct projects meant to serve different purposes. Both are desirable and one should not be cancelled for the other. Any reasonable person from the south south should support the Lagos-calabar rail project and still push for the Ibaka sea port. Calling for the cancelling of the rail project because government is not finding the sea port project is simply crass.
You don use your brain today. Finally!

Six of the locations this rail will cross are in my home state. So put away SW, SE/SS rivalry aside; I hope at the end of the day, that project will see the light of day.

The Ibaka sea port is a nice idea, why it hasn't gotten off the ground is appalling and every right thinking SS knows who to blame for that.

Those issues aside, I do not like the distortion, controversy, and politicizing of issues by the APC-led government. That is my major gripe. APC is an opposition against itself.

The executive is fully APC. The legislature is led by APC. So, what exactly is the issue?

Must the APC leadership drag internal ego quambles into core nation-building?

That Buhari cannot wade into this mess and tell both parties to keep their differences away from policy is very unfortunate.

I notice he has held at least 3 meetings with high-profile individuals from NASS on this budget, but of what use is a meeting if the agreed position after the meeting is not adhered to?

For a man who calls himself Mr. Integrity and problem-solver, all of this tarnishes his already battered image.

It is his government. In the end, the buck rests on his table. All the blames will go to him.

So, if he thinks people will spare him because other actors in the APC ruined his government while he stood idly by, he should start thinking straight.

It is bad enough that the APC government is visionless. But must they add crass stupidity to the mix?

-Lord
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by PRXPERT(op): 12:55pm On Apr 12, 2016
mapet:
Bros,

Your post is laced with crass ignorance and bile, this has probably robbed it of the intellectual value it should have been. Ibaka port is Akwa Ibom state project. PDP was in government for virtually the whole time the port was conceptualised, yet it never materialised. You should ask yourself why? You blame a government that is trying to get off to start for a supposed project (a state project for that matter) that Akwa Ibom could not bring to light? Meanwhile are these port projects not supposed to be private sector led?

Now my tots on the project is even different. The Akwa Ibom state government may not be able to muster the strength to pull it off as quickly as Lagos did Lekki FTZ Port and Airport. The two environments are different, Lagos is light years ahead of Akwa Ibom on all fronts and investors will see through these criteria to put their money.

Now to the Cal-Lag rail........
1. What still baffles me is that you lot seem so myopic that you cannot see the big picture. How can you be looking for the benefit of Lagos or Calabar in isolation when the rail line will traverse Calabar >> Uyo >> Aba >> PortHarcourt >> Yenegoa >> Otuoke >> Yenegoa >> Ugheli >> Warri >> Sapele >> Benin >> Agbor >> Asaba >> Onitsha >> Benin >> Ore >> Ijebu Ode >> Sagamu >> Lagos. Or do you think the rail line will fly on water from Lagos to Calabar?

2. Some of you people are your own worst enemies. How in the world can you say a rail project that is passing through 11 south-south cities is "aimed at diverting attention and those supporting it now, are supporting it because it's not a project that will give you (south south) economic independence,rather a parasitic one to lagos". What other development are you looking for? Are you going to force ships to a non-existent and not-to-be-in-the-near-term Ibaka port?

3. South Easterners like you need to ask yourself what do you truly want? 2nd Niger bridge, you complain, Cal-Lagos Rail you complain.........
you should go and look at the route properly to know exact rout where the railway line will pass through and stop pulling out things from your asssss!
people like me see through your antics, why are you lots using this project to divert attention of the populace to the obvious fraud committed by presidency on this budget e.. now y'all that haave been against Ibaka sea port are now supporting this project with an innate agenda, the point remains that South south priority for development is sea port and not railway..
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by delvinmaya(m): 2:45pm On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT and mapet, your exchange could be refreshing and educative only if you two put aside certain differences. Most especially you PR. mapet has to an extent given enough credence to his argument, so if you could counter him intelligently, I would love it. Waiting
Re: The Truth Behind This Calabar Lagos Railway Project,compare With Ibaka Sea Port by mapet: 3:27pm On Apr 12, 2016
PRXPERT:
you should go and look at the route properly to know exact rout where the railway line will pass through and stop pulling out things from your asssss!
people like me see through your antics, why are you lots using this project to divert attention of the populace to the obvious fraud committed by presidency on this budget e.. now y'all that haave been against Ibaka sea port are now supporting this project with an innate agenda, the point remains that South south priority for development is sea port and not railway..
My Antics? Please stop sounding like an immature kid. Amaechi himself verbally gave this route in the video while defending the budget with the Senate committees on Transport and appropriation, why are you living in denial? Do you have the "authentic route" why not submit the facts instead of the unnecessary hatred you're spewing here. [size=14pt]You do not even know the route!!![/size]

Who says I have been against the Ibaka project? Akwa Ibom is not my state, and I do not reside there. Lagos, where I live has a port project currently ongoing, which the state government embarked upon, while PDP was in government. They even got FG to take part of the state. Did anyone stop Akwa Ibom from doing same? Why try to blame people for your short-comings?
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