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Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by benji93: 8:51pm On Apr 16, 2016
TPAND:
Thumbs up man.
I have been thinking. all international trade in the world is transacted in dollars. It amazes Nigerians are falling for the cheap APC media stunt as usual.
China wants to give Nigeria Yuan in exchange for a payback in dollars. China is so smart, give them yuan, protect their foreign reserve and the detriment of Nigeria paying back in dollars
I would like you to clarify your point, by comparing 'I was the only one in Nigeria that understands the International Commercial Terms and Laws' and 'all international trade in the world is transacted in dollar', i can deduce that you actually mean that the use of dollar as legal tender is a law binding all members of the world trade organization. I would like you to tell me where you got that information from, cos i just read an article titled ''dollars unofficial status as the world's currency'' from investopedia a few minutes ago. I agree dollar is the most used currency in international trade, but there are reasons why the us dollar is prefered, which are reasonable, but in the case where another country's currency can assume all the characteristics of the dollar there would definitely be a tip over, some of us might not be cognizant of the more technical terms used in economics but we are not dumb, we understand it when something is logical, so please i would really like you to give me your source. then i can reconsider my thoughts on the situation at hand. Tnks.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by rottennaija(m): 8:56pm On Apr 16, 2016
donfish28:
http://thewillnigeria.com/news/buhari-emefiele-move-to-crash-the-dollar-sign-landmark-currency-deal-with-china/

I don't think this will crash the prices of phones from China because for example Gionee m5 which cost 2299 yuan from China will still be about 70,000 naira

Economists in the house your contributions please
Naija...the first thing you could think of was phone. I'm sure you also had your sight on s7
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by TPAND(f): 8:58pm On Apr 16, 2016
benji93:
I would like you to clarify your point, by comparing 'I was the only one in Nigeria that understands the International Commercial Terms and Laws' and 'all international trade in the world is transacted in dollar', i can deduce that you actually mean that the use of dollar as legal tender is a law binding all members of the world trade organization. I would like you to tell me where you got that information from, cos i just read an article titled ''dollars unofficial status as the world's currency'' from investopedia a few minutes ago. I agree dollar is the most used currency in international trade, but there are reasons why the us dollar is prefered, which are reasonable, but in the case where another country's currency can assume all the characteristics of the dollar there would definitely be a tip over, some of us might not be cognizant of the more technical terms used in economics but we are not dumb, we understand it when something is logical, so please i would really like you to give me your source. then i can reconsider my thoughts on the situation at hand. Tnks.
Let me go through my incoterms and UST codes before giving you a cogent response, but it's unheard of by international principle to conduct international trade in a local currency.
Crude oil is never sold in Naira
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by bams2999(m): 9:00pm On Apr 16, 2016
thanks Mr President
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by benji93: 9:02pm On Apr 16, 2016
TPAND:
Let me go through my incoterms and UST codes before giving you a cogent response, but it's unheard of by international principle to conduct international trade in a local currency.
Crude oil is never sold in Naira
if it is then that would be one of the most illogical laws i have heard of
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by dukeo(m): 9:05pm On Apr 16, 2016
Upon all the arguments, nobody has managed to answer the ops question. WHAT IS ITS EFFECT ON CHINESE PHONE IMPORTATION? Chai Nigerians nawao
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by benji93: 9:08pm On Apr 16, 2016
TPAND:
Let me go through my incoterms and UST codes before giving you a cogent response, but it's unheard of by international principle to conduct international trade in a local currency.
Crude oil is never sold in Naira
Listen bro, i am not an economist, but listen to yourself, you sound as if you are not sure of your assertions, it is unheard of does not mean it is law , convention does not necessarily mean law. The world has adopted the us dollar as a reliable legal tender for certaian reasons, we cannot obviously conduct our oil transactions with other countries in naira. Our currency is not stable, the recnt brouhaha is just an example, however if any other currency can beat the US dollar to its appropriateness then you would see entities moving towards the other side of the boat.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by intergral(m): 9:11pm On Apr 16, 2016
ddjay:
But this is good o, 1 Chinese yuan is N30.70k (official rate).
bro and we nigerians are not seeing the benefits of these..... imagine galaxy s7 is sold in china for 4500 yaun which means 4500x30.7=#138,150 grin cheesy..... and buying it in us means $670 x #305= #204,350 shocked angry huh................. how u see am cool grin
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by intergral(m): 9:16pm On Apr 16, 2016
dukeo:
Upon all the arguments, nobody has managed to answer the ops question. WHAT IS ITS EFFECT ON CHINESE PHONE IMPORTATION? Chai Nigerians nawao
check this out galaxy s7 is sold in china for 4500 yaun which means 4500x30.7=#138,150 cheesy cheesy cheesy grin ..... and buying it in us means $670 x #305= #204,350 shocked sad angry huh ................. how u see am cool cool
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by TPAND(f): 9:27pm On Apr 16, 2016
benji93:
Listen bro, i am not an economist, but listen to yourself, you sound as if you are not sure of your assertions, it is unheard of does not mean it is law , convention does not necessarily mean law. The world has adopted the us dollar as a reliable legal tender for certaian reasons, we cannot obviously conduct our oil transactions with other countries in naira. Our currency is not stable, the recnt brouhaha is just an example, however if any other currency can beat the US dollar to its appropriateness then you would see entities moving towards the other side of the boat.
You missed it, 'Our currency is not stable', can you mention one currency in the world that is stable. You need more information on commerce, FOREX, dollarization, International use of the dollar before you dispose my arguments. Do you know in the last 6 months China tightened its Foreign Exchange Policy - twice. Sticter than Nigerias. Don't read from investopedia. Rather read commercial terms and international trade from WTO domiciled source.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by benji93: 9:45pm On Apr 16, 2016
TPAND:
You missed it, 'Our currency is not stable', can you mention one currency in the world that is stable. You need more information on commerce, FOREX, dollarization, International use of the dollar before you dispose my arguments. Do you know in the last 6 months China tightened its Foreign Exchange Policy - twice. Sticter than Nigerias. Don't read from investopedia. Rather read commercial terms and international trade from WTO domiciled source.
Well i can say i now know a little about dollarization(it does not even answer the question i asked you), i stumbled across it, when trying to confirm your assertions. no currency is stable but in the long run some currencies are more stable than others, in a more scientific language, i would use the word elastic limit, some currencies are on the average more resilient than others of the pack. My friend, my speciality is not in economics,though i know a little abt it,fortunately you now sound as someone who knows much about economics, so i would like you to point me towards a particular direction, i would like you to give me a specific url source, to refer to, i have tried tried reading through some WTO documents, but no mention of the US dollar as the official legal tender. I hope i am not asking for too much.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Skanas(m): 10:04pm On Apr 16, 2016
intergral:
check this out galaxy s7 is sold in china for 4500 yaun which means 4500x30.7=#138,150 cheesy cheesy cheesy grin ..... and buying it in us means $670 x #305= #204,350 shocked sad angry huh ................. how u see am cool cool
Well said bro...what this all means in plain language is that if you are buying from China and pay directly in yuan technically it feels as if you are paying in dollars at CBN rate(or near CBN rate) i.e $670 * 197=131990 which is better than paying in dollars at the parallel market rate. My only fear about all this is that if it's allowed to stand for too long it will kill production internally for us as more cheaper goods from china will by way of competition force our local shops to closed up....let's not depend on this for so long, we need to use this period to create more industries so as to increase our export...
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by vower(m): 10:07pm On Apr 16, 2016
pls can Import phone from China website like gear best?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by vower(m): 10:13pm On Apr 16, 2016
and can I import phone from China now using d yuan exchange rate?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by banky3w(m): 11:20pm On Apr 16, 2016
augster:
Nigerians ehn. I wonder if they think at all. Shout from now till tmao that someone is uneducated, it doesn‘t change the fact that he‘s the president till 2019.
Unless death chop off him head....... He won't be president then. grin grin
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Newerakings(m): 11:31pm On Apr 16, 2016
Many person who criticize buhari only say what they heard from people and not an opinion they actually form on their own quite pitiable
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by ihearYou(m): 11:36pm On Apr 16, 2016
NnamdiN:
same old recycled bulllshytte. what's the effect?
Why do d igbos hate Nigeria and tend to denigrate anything good that is coming her way? I am not surprised at or statement,it is true to type.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Nobody: 11:38pm On Apr 16, 2016
divinecode101:
Choi! Cocont heads plenty for Nigeria!! This is an agreement signed this week!! some are expecting the effect this same work!!! I cry for Nigeria
Hey dummy, keep crying for yourself not Nigeria. The fact is that the op, on his title, laid emphasis on the "effects of the agreement on phone imports", but what i'm seeing here is the things we've already known. So could you be kind enough to educate me on those "effects on phone import", instead of typing rubbish here?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Nobody: 11:39pm On Apr 16, 2016
herbie27:
What phones do they import from China?, are we suppose to be looking at the benefits of importing or exporting to favour our unfavourable balance of payment.
Sisi, that your question should be directed to the op not me.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by yaki84: 12:41am On Apr 17, 2016
augster:
Nigerians ehn. I wonder if they think at all. Shout from now till tmao that someone is uneducated, it doesn‘t change the fact that he‘s the president till 2019.
so why do they say we shud support him when he has been sworn in on a four yr deal?

abi how we go tek support am mek him work well?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Obajemustapha(m): 1:23am On Apr 17, 2016
searchng4love:
watchin Bubu keenly...let us wait to hear from Fayose.


I don't trust APC's stories
Do u knw ur own self let alone trust ur self go do ur chores if u have a tym to waste
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by cyzzy: 2:58am On Apr 17, 2016
Nigerians must think deeper, for those who are happy for the low exchange rate, what do u think will happen to it when our demand for yuan comes pouring in? We need to become self sufficient
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by omobaekiti: 4:39am On Apr 17, 2016
benji93:
Well i can say i now know a little about dollarization(it does not even answer the question i asked you), i stumbled across it, when trying to confirm your assertions. no currency is stable but in the long run some currencies are more stable than others, in a more scientific language, i would use the word elastic limit, some currencies are on the average more resilient than others of the pack. My friend, my speciality is not in economics,though i know a little abt it,fortunately you now sound as someone who knows much about economics, so i would like you to point me towards a particular direction, i would like you to give me a specific url source, to refer to, i have tried tried reading through some WTO documents, but no mention of the US dollar as the official legal tender. I hope i am not asking for too much.
I deliberately quoted you so as you will see this comment although I am actually talking to @tpand:what Nigeria did with China is called currency swap,if you are a manufacturing country and you wish to sell your product and keep a tight leash on your currency like the Chinese do,all you just need to do is swap currency.I want to make it as short as possible: Before now if you need to import from China you would be given a price of goods sold in yuan at the rate in dollars,then you go down to your bank and buy dollar with naira to buy your goods from China. All that is not going to be there anymore,because now CBN has yuan now so instead if buying dollars just go yo your bank,purchase yuan voila you get your goods.This will reduce the tension on naira temporarily as those bringing in goods from China won't source for dollars rather they would be looking for yuan.
In my opinion if the government want to now help naira,all we need do is get our petrol refineries working,thereby reduce the amount we use in importing refine fuel.As that is one of the reasons our reserves take a huge hit,then we go ahead to really diversify our economy we are good to go. So to answer the OP yes the price of phones coming from China (all goods) should crash as the middle currency (almighty $) has been eliminated,and you know muddle men in all business would always add their own so as "dem must chop nah".
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by NnamdiN: 6:38am On Apr 17, 2016
ihearYou:
Why do d igbos hate Nigeria and tend to denigrate anything good that is coming her way? I am not surprised at or statement,it is true to type.
dafuq? Don't even start.
Went through your posts so no need to indulge you. It's obvious you're one those driven nuts by the thought of BIAFRA. Good luck in your quest to remain "brothers by force".

But let me indulge you a little. I import too and this senseless article didn't address anything. No be everybody get time to hate on your nigeria and your president undecided
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by exquisitM(m): 9:05am On Apr 17, 2016
WHO ARE THEY DECEIVING? FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CLAIMS THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOREIGN RESERVE TO MEET NIGERIANS DEMAND FOR DOLLAR.NOW WHICH FOREIGN RESERVE ARE THEY GOING TO CONVERT TO CHINESE YUAN?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by intergral(m): 9:59am On Apr 17, 2016
Skanas:
Well said bro...what this all means in plain language is that if you are buying from China and pay directly in yuan technically it feels as if you are paying in dollars at CBN rate(or near CBN rate) i.e $670 * 197=131990 which is better than paying in dollars at the parallel market rate. My only fear about all this is that if it's allowed to stand for too long it will kill production internally for us as more cheaper goods from china will by way of competition force our local shops to closed up....let's not depend on this for so long, we need to use this period to create more industries so as to increase our export...
you've given me a solid reason to totally agree with you
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by hardbody: 10:49am On Apr 17, 2016
oshaosha2014:
As a man that sits on the fence, I want to ask you, who certificate don hep for this countryhuh Beside, having a certificate does not guarantee success in life. Baba is using common sense here, which I doubt many people with certificate have. Remember, they don't teach you common sense in school, you get it on the street. Buhari na street.
OK. Street president, carry on.

That will do for now.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Ritchiee: 12:31pm On Apr 17, 2016
2n2k:
Next time, don't just copy and paste unless you understand and can distil the issues involved.

Nigeria is not adopting Chinese currency as its official currency or replacing naira with it. It is just a bilateral currency swap. This agreement will not increase our foreign reserve and if you are not importing from China, you will never get to deal in or with it.
You really are very funny.If you had read my sentences before the pasting,you wouldn't have gone through this trouble.Read and understand some other time before replying.Look before you leap.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Elxandre(m): 12:44pm On Apr 17, 2016
augster:
You wey get certificate wetin you don achieve? Wetin you do to improve the dusty road that leads to your house?
Nigeria, where youths support mediocrity.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by samsam2019: 1:03pm On Apr 17, 2016
Abudu2000:
why are these bloggers deceiving the public for Christ sake,the use of dollars for international trade is a policy already made and sealed in the UN, unless the country wants to face sanction no one can change that treaty,so don't get your hopes up....even if you want to import from China you have to convert to dollar since the world bank deals in dollars
smh for Dollards!!!
brain dead, what if I tell you I buy stuffs from abroad with gbp?
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Justinah4real(f): 1:09pm On Apr 17, 2016
dustmalik:
Don't mind these Buhari haters. This is going to make life easier for those who import from China, and of course, our exporters. In time, I believe this administration is going to get it right.
Is this not the man that chased GEB from office, claiming he wants to hit the ground runing. This was how Abacha and Objs children became billionares by apealing to the masses to be patient with expensive fuel scarcity.
Re: Nigeria Signs Currency Pact With China And It's Effect On Phone Imports by Nobody: 3:13pm On Apr 17, 2016
banmee:
Bros don't deviate from the argument. You claimed that there would be sanctions if countries engage in international transactions without the currency of use being the dollar. First you were wrong about any kind of sanctions being put on any country. Secondly, you can trade with whatever currency you want as long as the country or person you are doing it with is in agreement with you.
THANKS A LOT for schooling (abudu2000) him and the other guy. please which international law?
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