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| Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by Nobody: 7:17pm On Apr 17, 2016*. Modified: 7:46pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
SOLUDO TO NGOZI OKOJO IWEALA "... Soludo accused the coordinating minister of the economy of running the country’s economy aground and blaming the state governors for failure to save for the rainy days whereas the federal government has benefitted more from sharing the Excess Crude Account (ECA) savings.http://leadership.ng/news/408685/soludo-fires-okonjoiweala-n30trillion-stolen-watch Excerpt starting from Paragraph 7. Soludo made this statement in Feb 2015. It is important to re awaken it following d current attempt of wailers to start using d same excuse for Jonathan following the recent statement by Ngozi. Copyright Nairalander SamsuRana |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by DickDastardly(m): 7:24pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
![]() The Crooks that has benefitted immensely from the system will never let us be. You Mr Soludo, okonja iweala, jonathan etc should let us hear pls. Criminals! ![]() |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LouisVanGaal(m): 7:29pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
DickDastardly:Is that what you can make from the. Article Mr Dickhead ?? |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by Nobody: 7:30pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LouisVanGaal:i tire |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by youngaz(m): 7:33pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Seriously if dey shuld start counting d crimes committed by diz pple mouth go just dey open anyhow.........am nt a wailer nor a APC-ist.....bt let us face d fact.....wen diz present govt leaves office maybe PDP too will ave to probe dem nd in dat case PDP too will stop corruption in their party |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 7:37pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Don't forget his previous publication on why APC should stop telling Nigerians stories and start the business of governance. When you form an opinion, do it based on facts and make sure that preconceived notions of the writer/speaker are unearthed. While Soludo defends PDP achievement, he is particularly obsessed on painting Jonathan's achievements black though he prefers the statistics and uses than when he talks about Nigeria before the international communities. My understanding of these show of antagonisms emanated from Jonathan's refusal to hand him the Governorship of Anambra State notwithstanding being the preferred candidate of Peter Obi and APGA Leadership who begged him to decamp to APGA to achieve his noble dream. I learnt Jonathan told Peter Obi to anoint another candidate to receive his support as he fears that Soludo will follow the footsteps of Rochas Okorocha whom he/PDP supported his election but he turned back and stabbed them on the back by decamping to APC PDP Handed Nigeria Over In A Better State Than It Met Nigeria - Soludo |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by shamsuRana(m): 7:41pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
tuale4u:Noted and thanks sir... ![]() |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by Nobody: 7:43pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:For sure PDP under OBJ tried. OBJ govt saved $22billion that help us not to feel 2008 and 2009 global recession. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by modath(f): 7:44pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Soludo go hear the story of how hin ancestors take "crawl" reach Anambra!! He is castigating Hero of our time & madam textbook economist. *This thread go sweet die*!! ![]() |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by Nobody: 7:46pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
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| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 7:57pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
tuale4u:You mean like Yar'dua who only allowed 25% annual budget performances on the premise of savings? How much did Tinubu and Fashola saved in Lagos State? Why is Lagos State debt competing with that of pan Nigeria, not forgetting that of Southwest APC's States? Who do citizens of APC control States blame for subjecting their children unborn to debt? May be Jonathan |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by modath(f): 7:59pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Furthermore, did the governors also stop the federal government from saving part of its share?This is the part that we've always asked Jonathanians to EXPLAIN, but because they do not have any logical or intelligent argument to put forth,they either; 1. Curse their present & unborn generations. 2. Wail about their collective Nigthmare; Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi AKA "The slayer of the IB", "Ijaya PDP" "The lion of Ubima" Or 3. Derail the thread!! Disciples of the Legend of the Hero, in simple ingrish; what happened to the 52% share of the FG?. Amaechi is not a signatory to the Federation account nah.. ![]() |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 8:11pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
modath:The amount spent on Bokoharam was Federal Government savings under Jonathan. Why is it hard for you to understand? If I may ask, Obasanjo/Okonjo Iweala saved while Jonathan/Iweala didn't? Where were you when Okonjo Iweala vehemently opposed 18,000 minimum wage, specifically the multiplying effect on senior staff even before she became a minister under Jonathan? If I may remind you her words, she said it will drain Nigeria savings and broke the gradual assimilation of middle-class spending power into the system. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by idensko(m): 8:11pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
For the first time, Nigerian economy is now rated by credit rating agencies (Fitch, and Standard and Poor’s). Even on corruption perception, Nigeria is far better today than in 1999, and PDP created the two major anti-corruption agencies — ICPC and EFCC, and as at 2014 TI scored Nigeria 2.7 and ranked 136 out of 175 countries. PDP secured debt relief for Nigeria, thereby relieving Nigeria from the stranglehold of the IMF/World Bank policy conditionalities. APC does not have to negotiate with Washington on many economic policies. The list is long. PDP passed the 2015 Administration of criminal Justice bill, a perfect document in fighting corruption The point therefore is that despite the fall in oil price, APC is starting from a much stronger base than PDP did in 1999 and the challenge now is to do far better. In the coming years, Nigerians will be asking APC to show us their figures! By SOLUDO. Soludo is a respected Igbo Son, but it seems like he is just. Trying to score Cheap Political Points dis dayz. D problem with dis Yoruba folks is trying to create another Okonjo Iweal out of kemi. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 8:20pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
idensko:Kemi Adeosun is just like a cashier or better still a finance Minister on auto-pilot. She is only good for a State material. Under her watch, Ogun State sank deep into debt that will be hard for future generations of Ogun State citizens to liquidate. What then makes her different from this discussion? |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:23pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Is Soludo any better? Mtscheeeeeeew |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by fulanimafia: 8:27pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
modath:Don't push them to explain that before you cause brain haemorrhage in some wailers. Imagine claiming that the FG's share was used to fight terror when all evidence points to the fact that the FG through Dasuki was either actively or passively sponsoring and fostering terror, while looting both appropriated and unappropriated funds under the guise of fighting the scourge. The ineffectual alcoholic was so waved on Henny and Bubbly that he never realized the ripple cum drowning effects of wasting the oil price boom. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by OLADD: 8:35pm On Apr 17, 2016*. Modified: 11:23pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
modath:Ignoring your kind of stupid post would have been the most preferable option but it's a disservice to commonsense if that's done. Which 52% were you expecting the FG to save from? Should the FG opt to save money at the expense of executing its developmental projects and fulfilling other financial obligations? Should they keep money aside and allow Boko haram to subdue the entire country? Should they be saving money and allow the nation to be grounded because of inability to meet fuel marketers' subsidy demand? Even if there's no corruption, the 52% FG share can't solve the numerous problems facing the nation in the areas of road construction, health care delivery, security services, salaries etc. No matter what Soludo or any other sycophants say, the bulk of the blames goes to the greedy governors (led by long throated Ameachi) who held the FG by the jugular thereby forcing the later to deplete the ECA. Let's be sincere in our comments. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by OLADD: 8:43pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:God bless you. Good points. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by modath(f): 8:47pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:Madam, what happened to the "Lady" part? ![]() What is hard to "understand" is that the BH excuse as the reason for squandering billions is untenable.... http://theeagleonline.com.ng/jonathan-gave-me-approval-to-withdraw-2b-from-eca-okonjo-iweala/ https://www.naij.com/377870-jonathan-administration-ran-nigerias-economy-down.html http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/168645-jonathan-gets-approval-to-borrow-1billion-to-fight-boko-haram.html https://www.nairaland.com/2438214/jonathan-noi-governors-excess-crude If I may ask, Obasanjo/Okonjo Iweala saved while Jonathan didn't? Where were you when Okonjo Iweala vehemently opposed 18,000 minimum wage, specifically the multiplying effect on senior staff even before she became a minister under Jonathan? If I may remind you her words, she said it will drain Nigeria savings and broke the gradual assimilation of middle-class spending power into the system.She vehemently opposed because the imperialist tendencies she is part & parcel of is to cut wages below "poverty" levels, reduce spendings on health care & welfare A Level 14 civil servant who has spent more than 20years in the civil service receives about 100k+ after deductions, that is too much in your madam gele's books! 18k minimum wage too much in a major oil producing nation, when after deductions it's just around 15k at most!!!! ![]() There are some opinions we should endeavour to suppress even when we feel we may burst or aspirate if we do! !! |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by OLADD: 8:53pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:God bless you. Good points. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by PRYCE(m): 9:01pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
modath:See who was screaming objectivity to me a while ago... You the champion of the cause you accuse me of madam MOE! You skipped everything Soludo said, didnt offer any intelligent input but resorted to Namecalling and your 'outdated' sarcasm... Funny how peeps accuse others for their opaque vision!... like Figuratively! |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by antispexish(m): 9:14pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
OLADD:this is where these savings thing gets to me. The money was not saved, and we did not see any physical manifestation of what the money was used for. If gej can be held by the jugular and forced to deplete the ECA , then he had no business being our president and commander in chief, he was a mistake! he was even shown how to save by his predecessor who did it successfully with less inflow of cash. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by gaddafe(m): 9:16pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
When will all this blame game stop. I was under the impression that Buhari was voted in to solve the problems not to start telling Nigerians who's to blame. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 9:24pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
modath:You didn't make any reasonable point to challenge my assertions and secondly, it's not a must to reply. I put it to you that the current minimum wage is the only reason why Yar'dua could pay salaries (N7,500) when Oil price collapsed in 2008/2009 while Buhari and present Governors can't cope paying N18000 in 2016 under the same condition. Don't forget the Governors have vehemently complained and wish for a downward review. I have made up my mind not to defend any politician again. However, I will always provide a balance in any discussion if need be. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by mbhs139(m): 9:31pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
idensko:How pathetic it sounds and I feel sometimes when I read comments like this on this forum, by supposedly educated people. We are discussing national issues that affect everyone,irrespective of tribe or religion, you are here talking about "Yoruba people ". It's a shame! Big time shame when young educated minds like you can't do away with the toga of ethnicity and clannishness. A very big shame, shame! |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by modath(f): 9:47pm On Apr 17, 2016*. Modified: 10:08pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:To the uninformed, diamond & cubic zirconia are both shiny ornaments, takes a discerning mind to know quality, so the babble is excused.. It is a must to reply, you addressed me, if you hadn't, we wouldn't be doing this!!! I put it to you that the current minimum wage is the only reason why Yar'dua could pay salaries (N7,500) when Oil price collapsed in 2008/2009 while Buhari and Nigeria Governors can't cope paying N18000 in 2016 under the same condition. Don't forget the Governors have vehemently complained and wish for a downward review.When excuses are being made for mismanagement of the economy, minimum wage that barely skirt the region of below poverty line should never be an excuse.... Dollarisation of campaign for an undeserved second term is not an economic drain. Balance is subjective, looking at a number from different directions could make it a 6 or a 9!! For the avoidance of doubt, any attempt to twist the Nigeria narrative of the not so distant past will be countered with facts.... Emotions don't come into this, some of us are committed to Nigeria & will UPHOLD her honour & glory, SO HELP GLORY ME GOD... ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/2251899/buhari-set-cancel-strategic-chinese |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by LadyExcellency: 9:57pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
^^ I think it was APC that started the dollarization when Amaechi and Tinubu were matching Atiku's handouts dollars for dollars in a bid to get corrupt APC delegates to vote for Buhari. The truth is that every dollar owned by Nigerians that is domiciled anywhere in Nigeria is part of our foreign reserve. It's all about government policy to make use of it. The foreign currency depletion was anticipated when Buhari was elected hence I don't see why you are surprise. He changed the colors of Nigerian currencies in 1984 and would've done it again if Emefiele didn't warn him and told him how he was beaten in his own game by PDP politicians and businessmen alike who exchanged all their Nairas for dollar for fear of witch-hunt by Buhari, the master dribbler himself. |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by modath(f): 10:06pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
OJ did it? , we know, just prove OJ killed Nicole!!! Evidence, Evidence, Evidence!!! ![]()
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| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by KUNZY02(m): 10:47pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
OLADD: |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by KUNZY02(m): 10:51pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
It seems you all have forgotten so soon that the money GEJ used to fight BH was the 1million dollar the NASS approved for him and not the Excess crude savings |
| Re: Jonathan and Ngozi is to blame for not Saving, not Governors-Soludo by malton: 11:02pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
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