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Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by gwales: 10:02am On Apr 18, 2016
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Ratello:
Obviously, you are oblivious of what International Politics is all about what ReverendDesm0ndjuju is talking about here requires you pick up history books of relationships between the Western world and developing nations (especially Africans) then you might get schooled. Murtala Mohammed treaded this path when he tampered with the foreign policies of Nigeria as it affects the Western world (especially US) he paid with his life, perhaps you need to read up books on Allende of Chile in the '70s he also paid with his life, Patrice Lumumba readily comes to mind too for importing communism to a newly grabbed continent where the Western world are hellbent in enforcing democracy.....many more to discuss but it seems you are totally out of the loop. undecided one more advice, listen to RevDesm0ndJuju, for more schooling. Buhari needs to tread softly if he is going to live to see the Nigeria of his dreams.
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Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by omoharry(f):
Ratello:
Obviously, you are oblivious of what International Politics is all about what ReverendDesm0ndjuju is talking about here requires you pick up history books of relationships between the Western world and developing nations (especially Africans) then you might get schooled. Murtala Mohammed treaded this path when he tampered with the foreign policies of Nigeria as it affects the Western world (especially US) he paid with his life, perhaps you need to read up books on Allende of Chile in the '70s he also paid with his life, Patrice Lumumba readily comes to mind too for importing communism to a newly grabbed continent where the Western world are hellbent in enforcing democracy.....many more to discuss but it seems you are totally out of the loop. undecided one more advice, listen to RevDesm0ndJuju, for more schooling. Buhari needs to tread softly if he is going to live to see the Nigeria of his dreams.
From your write up so far..are you saying Nigerians should remain slaves to the west and cower becos of thier might and influence? then why are we a soverign country if we cannot take drastic decision such as these, without fear of any external animosity against our country... We are trying to save our economic from a total collaps in which we have found ourselve...to me that is a good step in teh right direction instead of the devaluation and opting of the IMF loan..Dont fightand follw the advise of the west and remain redundant and in fear as long as its pleases the then..that is your point of argument..is that no? thank God President Buhari does not have your mind set..;less you would have striped us all of our remaining dignity.We that love Nigeria inrespective of her challenges, shall stand and support Buhari as regard any policy is for the good of the country and will not allow any western country to destroy what we have for thier selfish interest.I am not a Fan of Buhari nor did i vote for him but i will stand and support him in this, than support the west against Nigeria for thier selfish interest.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Ratello: 12:07pm On Apr 18, 2016
omoharry:
From your write up so far..are you saying Nigerians should remain slaves to the west and cower in the face of threat.just becos we are trying to save country from economic shambles we have found ourselve..i even wonder if u are even a Nigerian..You write-up reak of inferiority complex and slave mentality..dont fight and remain redundant and in fear as long as its pleases the west..that is your point of argument..thank God President Buhari does not have your low mind set..;less you would have striped us all of our remaining dignity.We that love Nigeria inrespective of her challenges, shall stand and support Buhari as regard any policy is for the good of the country and will not allow any western country to destroy what we have for thier selfish interest.I am not a Fan of Buhari nor did i vote for him but i will stand and support him in this than support the west against my country for thier selfish interest.
Obviously you lack basic cognitive skills...point to me where I indicated that Nigeria should kowtow to Western world dictates please undecided left to me I want Buhari to do whatever he could to lift us out of this mess but that must be done with tact especially when the interests of the West is involved the more reason I cited those examples of slain leaders. Do you understand now?
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by idupaul: 12:11pm On Apr 18, 2016
banki:
You guys make me laugh
He goes to the west you complain
He goes to Arabia you complain
He goes to China you complain

The article above is ridicolous especially the part where you said the bbog suddenly found their voice as if you don't know that this week simply marks 2years

You guys should continue wailing
He is only advising the President to be careful. .this currency thing has killed many great leaders..when the west descends on Buhari and throws him out U will not be able to help and like all sycophants u will hide
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Ratello: 12:17pm On Apr 18, 2016
idupaul:
He is only advising the President to be careful. .this currency thing has killed many great leaders..when the west descends on Buhari and throws him out U will not be able to help and like all sycophants u will hide
Leave then to their follies....they don't seem to know how powerful and dangerous the West is especially when their interest is attacked.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by omoharry(f): 12:33pm On Apr 18, 2016
Ratello:
Obviously you lack basic cognitive skills...point to me where I indicated that Nigeria should kowtow to Western world dictates please undecided left to me I want Buhari to do whatever he could to lift us out of this mess but that must be done with tact especially when the interests of the West is involved the more reason I cited those examples of slain leaders. Do you understand now?
The interest of the west is for Nigeria to devaluate the Naira..and if possible opt for the IMF loan that will further plung our economy downward. When has the interest of the west ever being in favour of thier country of interest..name it..China could only become powerful today because they decided to look inward and not cry to the west for help/please them..do you expect the west to smile and support your country's growth and development? no way...it does not work like that.Is either Nigeria looks inward to develop and displease the west or pleases the west and remain undevelop and selfs sufficient.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Ratello: 5:15pm On Apr 18, 2016
omoharry:
The interest of the west is for Nigeria to devaluate the Naira..and if possible opt for the IMF loan that will further plung our economy downward. When has the interest of the west ever being in favour of thier country of interest..name it..China could only become powerful today because they decided to look inward and not cry to the west for help/please them..do you expect the west to smile and support your country's growth and development? no way...it does not work like that.Is either Nigeria looks inward to develop and displease the west or pleases the west and remain undevelop and selfs sufficient.
Good points raised I can't believe a lady can be this versed in International diplomacy and local politics more so a Nigerian babe for that matter. I am impressed, keep it up!
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Nobody: 5:26pm On Apr 18, 2016
mrmetoo1:
Please what's this concoction of nonsense being spewed here. Few weeks ago when he was mingling with folks from the west with Obama praising him some of you said he's their puppet and this was to the chagrin of China. Some of you guys said because of his relationship with the west he has alienated China and because of that China had started canceling all their investments and agreements with Nigeria. (this may sound ridiculous but this is what folks here were saying). Now he's gone to China and all of a sudden you guys are now complaining that the same west you had a problem with now has a problem with him. Abeg you guys make up your damn minds.
Meanwhile this is an article with Britain referring to us as their friends and still pledging their support.
http://linkis.com/thenationonlineng.net/QcoEY
Confusion and ignorance at its peak.

For some people it is either the West or China. It is nonsense! Nobody stops Nigeria from doing business with China and the West simultaneously.
As a matter of fact China and the US are each other's most important trading partners and their relations have been improving for decades now.

The battle between those two giant economies is in people's mind. Sheer ignorance.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Nobody: 5:28pm On Apr 18, 2016
omoharry:
The interest of the west is for Nigeria to devaluate the Naira..and if possible opt for the IMF loan that will further plung our economy downward. When has the interest of the west ever being in favour of thier country of interest..name it..China could only become powerful today because they decided to look inward and not cry to the west for help/please them..do you expect the west to smile and support your country's growth and development? no way...it does not work like that.Is either Nigeria looks inward to develop and displease the west or pleases the west and remain undevelop and selfs sufficient.
The Naira has already been depreciated. It's devaluation would be a logical consequence. Its value is being held up artificially.

Introduction to Macroeconomis.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Nobody: 5:56pm On Apr 18, 2016
RevDesm0ndJuju:
Buhari has began his slippy slope to being replaced as Nijeriya's puppet president.

I have predicted here that the APC govt under Buhari will come to an end in January, 2017.

I made this assertion over Buhari's "stubbornness" to do the bidding of his masters in the west.

It is no news that Jonathan was vehemently opposed by the West over his currency and trade policies that were geared towards China.

The US stopped buying Nigerian crude after the last administration announced diversification of Nigeria's external reserves from the US dollar in the wake of the weakening dollar.
You people should do a thorough research before you come us with the typical sermon of the West boycotting and sabotaging you. The USA are Nigeria's top export country next to India and some other European states.

Moreover, the demand for oil has been going down for many years now for different reasons:

1. Financial crisis --> less demand ---> less production
2. The US is producing more oil domestically.
3. The US is reducing its dependence on oil generally.

Besides, the USA bought less and less oil from nearly all countries for the reasons mentioned above.



The US did not only stop buying Nigerian crude but also went a step further in portraying the last administration as weak by refusing to provide much needed diplomatic and military support to Nigeria in her fight against Boko Haram insurgents which by the way have all the hallmarks of a US backed destabilizing militia.
The last administration was weak. Everybody knows it. And Western journalists are free to write whatever they want about him. It is called freed of press.

The US took it up a notch by furthering campaigns of culmany against the last administration of which notably is the phantom missing NNPC $50bn or $10bn or $20bn (depending on what figure you choose to believe). There is also the BBOG scam movement which has all the hallmarks of the now dead and buried Kony 2012 CIA Psych Operation.
What the heck are you talking about?

As of today, Buhari has been dealt the short end of the stick as the US and western banks have refused to grant Nigeria any form of economic reprieve after Buhari cancelled all bilateral deals with China.
More crap. Buhari refused to accept the loan on the conditions provided by the IMF.

The US and western bankers are insisting that Buhari devalue the Naira and also open our borders for cheap imports.
So? Many economists argue that this is the way to go. It is disputable but it no way proves that the West is sabotaging Nigeria for strengthening their ties with China.

Buhari has stubbornly refused to do so and this has led to the first salvos being fired by his western masters.
Of late, Buhari has not been having positive reviews from western based media outlets which were instrumental in portraying Buhari as the messiah of Nigeria. Today, we see editorials and articles from western based publications condemning Buhari's economic policies.
You have read them all, right? Buhari is being praised and criticized and the press does what they do with their own leaders too, they comment positively and negatively depending on many factors.

The BBOG group has suddenly found their voice coincidentally after Buhari went off to China to open economic talks with that country.
Source?

You will recall that the BBOG campaign of calumny was loudest during the GEJ era when Nigeria hosted the World Economic Forum with China at Abuja in 2014.
It was in April 2014 that the girls were abducted. When did you want the campaign to start, in 2017?

We are also seeing the ICC opening up investigation into gross human rights abuse and murder of innocent civilians by this govt. The west never commented on the Shiite or Biafran massacre but all of a sudden they are now sending a delegation to Nigeria to open up investigation on these two incidences.
It is their job to do it but the question is who asked them to open this investigation? Nigerians who provided evidence against him.

All these stem from Buhari (rightfully in my opinion) looking towards China.
Speculation based on sentiments and lack of thorough investigation of the topic.

Buhari can never count on my vote neither do i hold a favorable opinion of him as president of Nigeria but I will like to advice him to be very wary of the west.

He has entered a deal with the devil and there is no going back.
Typical black and white rhetorics. The West is the devil and Africans are oppressed angels.

I wish him all the luck he can get in getting out of this deal with the devils of the west.
What deal?
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by mrmetoo1: 8:33pm On Apr 18, 2016
Mindfulness:
Confusion and ignorance at its peak.

For some people it is either the West or China. It is nonsense! Nobody stops Nigeria from doing business with China and the West simultaneously.
As a matter of fact China and the US are each other's most important trading partners and their relations have been improving for decades now.

The battle between those two giant economies is in people's mind. Sheer ignorance.
Exactly!! I'm not sure these ignoramuses understand how both countries are dependent on each other. Apple, arguably the biggest company in America right now, probably the world, makes their products in China, almost all companies in the US manufacture their products in China. Even most clothing companies make their clothes in China. In fact its a big deal when a company announces they're producing in the US as was the case with Motorola a couple of years ago. The UK borrows from China, yet folks here want us to believe all these guys will be mad at us for doing exactly what they're doing.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by Nobody: 8:44pm On Apr 18, 2016
mrmetoo1:
Exactly!! I'm not sure these ignoramuses understand how both countries are dependent on each other. Apple, arguably the biggest company in America right now, probably the world, makes their products in China, almost all companies in the US manufacture their products in China. Even most clothing companies make their clothes in China. In fact its a big deal when a company announces they're producing in the US as was the case with Motorola a couple of years ago. The UK borrows from China, yet folks here want us to believe all these guys will be mad at us for doing exactly what they're doing.
Moreover, China is USA's largest foreign creditor.

The ignorance on this forum is endless.
Re: Buhari Falls Out With The West by aresa: 8:52pm On Apr 18, 2016
Just a few days ago, the UK dash us 40 million pounds free to tackle electricity, today, the US helped us to locate Abacha loot and they are returning hundreds of millions of dollars Abacha loot .....



Sounds more like love than fall out...


Jobless iPoDS and anti Nigerian elements ...
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