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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:50am On May 10, 2016
It is clear from the scriptures posted that Jesus is God
those scriptures have not been believed and have been twisted to say something else by some, mainly by false jw



Yet here are even more verses showing that Jesus is God, showing that Jesus is Jehovah:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


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Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


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Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


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Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


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Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


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Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


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Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 2:48pm On May 10, 2016
johnw74:
^^^
You give other persons opinions of some scriptures that agree with your false doctrine
and you say that's proof

with your many words you think you are right
the truth doesn't take many words, like:

"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"
a sensible person who believes he/she knows the truth and has proof will show my proofs as false, then provide his or her own proofs.
1. those people are not talking about what the verse meant, they are talking, with facts to show, what the verse said!
2. those people have been able to prove with facts that there where additions to the scriptures which where not there before
3. those people where AbLe to prove that certain people deliberately altered the words of the scriptures by putting a line where is was not originaly In, using an ink different from the one used in writing that manuscript.
4. those people have been able to prove that older manuscripts more reliable manuscripts do not have the altered words in those verses. how can an earlier copy not have a word and the word is now found in later copies of the same earliar copy.

5. I always thank god, who through his infinite wisdom has kept the older manuscripts , e.g the dead sea scroll from the hands of your for father's, if not they would have altered the words in those scrolls too. but as the scrolls where found during a time they could not make those alterations on it, it exposed their earlier works. It shows that the kjv translated the bible from a manuscript that had been currupt ed by YOUR FOR FATHERS!

you go to great lengths to try and show that many bible verses are not true
and you change them to suit false jw satanic doctrine that the Word is not God.
i quoted several verses to you, if you feel my quotes are not true. pls quote the correct verse of the verses I quoted and explain them, also surpport the version you feel are correct with proofs.

you mean you want everyone to believe that
you post all the verses you want and I will explain them to you as i have done
but when you add your false interpretations to them, I probably will not waste time responding as i have told you many times
but you love to lie






they already know you dnt respond to certain scriptures, you dnt quote and/or explain some of the scriptures I quote to you. even when you claim I made a wrong explanation of that scripture, you dnt give your own counter explanation of that scripture

to show the world that you dnt do as said above, I'll post there scriptures from the kjv now, people will now notice if you will quote those scriptures and explain what the scripture says.

King James Version
Eph 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by otemanuduno: 2:58pm On May 10, 2016
Both Jehovah(Nymphidis) and Jesus (Faulkin) shall submit to the power of their CREATOR called DOMINO REVERAD.

behold, the kingdom of JEHOVAH and JESUS is already trembling at the mention of the name of REVERAD.

watch and see how their dark kingdom shall be demolished by the power of the true God of the universe.


Bellorum 1:1-38


BELLORUM
CHAPTER ONE

1. The age of the universe is unknown by no one because Reverad and it co-exists.

2. But the universe has no planet in it when it is formed.

3. And some billions of years away from now did Reverad make a bang to occur, which brought the planets and many other bodies to life.

4. The sons of God exists before the bang, because Reverad made them before any other thing.

5. Now the priests (sons of God) were instructed to make findings of all the things made by Reverad the God of the universe.

6. And they made their findings in different planets.

7. And seven sons of God made their findings on earth. Their names are Jehovah (Nymphidis), Chimides, Euchlydes, Eartum, Chaleb, Largas and Ephradite. But Murmoh,which could have been the eighth did no findings at all.

8. These were of great stature and broad visions. For they can see as large as a whole city at once.

9. And they have sights that can see things which were billions of times smaller than the smallest thing the eyes of the homos could see.

10. So also are their ears very sensitive.

11. Now Jehovah was he who began to create an atmosphere of evil, altering peace while himself was regarded as peace.

12. And his warring strength waxed stronger than that of all the sons of God. This strength did he get through his cleverness.

13. But the more clever he becomes, the less wise he also becomes.

14. And when his cleverness has grown to a huge height, his foolishness became highly conspicuous even among the homos which he has created. But he claimed that his foolishness is wiser than the wisdom of even all the other sons of God and the homos.

15. And Jehovah adopted a son whom he called his Only Begotten Son.

16. And in the land of Jehovah, the author of peace so-called, the greatest number of war is recorded and shall be also recorded in the next world to come. For war shall be a perpetual thing in the land of the god of peace so-called.

17. And at the time of the great bang exists only one female whose name is Earthus. And the earth was named after her by the seven sons of God.

18. Now there arose a great fight among the sons of God over Earthus, the only female soul.

19. Jehovah got her and she was his wife until the time he gave her up to be the wives of all the other sons of God also.

20. This did Jehovah do to make every living soul think that he is an advocate of peace.

21. But when Earthus went with Eartum into the moon to play love therein, Jehovah stirred up the other sons of God to fight against them.

23. Now when they returned from the moon, Jehovah and the other sons of God sent Earthus away from the earth, whose dominion was given to her by Domino Reverad himself during the great bang.

24. But Eartum did not forsake Earthus. And he made her to dwell with him in the oceans.

25. Then a time came when the homos in the land of Murmoh began to have redness of eyes. And they blamed it on Eartum and Earthus who went to the moon and returned.

26. For they said, Eartum and Earthus brought the fire of the moon into our eyes.

27. Now they came after them to punish them and kill them.

28. And they found Earthus outside the ocean already in labour. Then Jehovah commanded his dragon to devour the son that would be born of Earthus for Eartum.

29. For Knoliud the knowledge of God had himself declared that Apollyon shall be the name of the unborn child who shall rule the world with a rod of iron, punishing the people of the land of Jehovah for a time, times and half a time.

30. And a time came that Jehovah went a-hunting for Earthus again, because in his first hunt, she escaped narrowly with her son by the help of Eartum.

31. Now Eartum and Earthus had returned to the ocean where they inhabited. And Jehovah went in a big ship made of gopher wood.

32. And they got Earthus but Eartum pulled her back with all his strength. Then was she dissected. Her waist down to her legs went apart from her torso and her hands.

33. And Jehovah hung the body of Earthus on a tree to kill her, but Eartum came for her and in a twinkling of an eye they had escaped to the moon.

34. Then after some years, Earthus and Eartum flew back into the ocean by night. And her torso landed into the body of a friendly fish, the phibioses.

35. And the head of the fish was ripped off by the momentum of the falling body of Eartum.

36. And the body of the fish cleaved to the body of Earthus. Thus did she have the tail of fish.

37. And after then, she reproduced, giving birth to children of her kind, having tails of fishes also if they were females.

38. But the males looked like their father, Eartum.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 12:32am On May 11, 2016
dolphinheart:

a sensible person who believes he/she knows the truth and has proof will show my proofs as false, then provide his or her own proofs.
1. those people are not talking about what the verse meant, they are talking, with facts to show, what the verse said!
2. those people have been able to prove with facts that there where additions to the scriptures which where not there before
3. those people where AbLe to prove that certain people deliberately altered the words of the scriptures by putting a line where is was not originaly In, using an ink different from the one used in writing that manuscript.
4. those people have been able to prove that older manuscripts more reliable manuscripts do not have the altered words in those verses. how can an earlier copy not have a word and the word is now found in later copies of the same earliar copy.

5. I always thank god, who through his infinite wisdom has kept the older manuscripts , e.g the dead sea scroll from the hands of your for father's, if not they would have altered the words in those scrolls too. but as the scrolls where found during a time they could not make those alterations on it, it exposed their earlier works. It shows that the kjv translated the bible from a manuscript that had been currupt ed by YOUR FOR FATHERS!


i quoted several verses to you, if you feel my quotes are not true. pls quote the correct verse of the verses I quoted and explain them, also surpport the version you feel are correct with proofs.



they already know you dnt respond to certain scriptures, you dnt quote and/or explain some of the scriptures I quote to you. even when you claim I made a wrong explanation of that scripture, you dnt give your own counter explanation of that scripture

to show the world that you dnt do as said above, I'll post there scriptures from the kjv now, people will now notice if you will quote those scriptures and explain what the scripture says.

King James Version
Eph 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.








same thing again and again, false jw thinks he can show that the Bible verses of Jesus Christ being God are not true
he has failed miserably and will continue to fail
he posts other verses that he thinks do that, but they don't as i have already shown
false jw does not understand the verses he posts, not one has shown that Jesus Christ is not God

just look at the verses showing that Jesus is God that Jesus is Jehovah, they cannot be disputed
except by more rejection and twisting of the scriptures by non believers

false jw thinks he can post scriptures against scriptures, he needs to understand those scriptures
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:23am On May 11, 2016
false jw thinks I am posting here for him, I'm posting here for believers, for Christians
however he will continue to troll, and blaspheme God calling Him "a god "an angel", teaching that Jesus Christ is not God, as that is his thing

There have been a few trolling this thread, atheist and muslim earlier on, about one post each, and false jw continually
he is in good company though, with atheist and muslim

but it's clear that Jesus Christ is God, that Jesus is Jehovah,

from all the bible verses posted it's clear that:

Thy Throne O God is for ever and ever
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by pamijlove(f): 8:11am On May 11, 2016
johnw74:

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
one what?
not person, because two persons are mentioned "I and my Father"
so "I and my Father" are one Spirit-one God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
^^^
The Father and Son are one, one God
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
one what?
not person because three persons are mentioned "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost"
so as above with the Father and the Son, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost" are one Spirit-one God
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Imagine u got married and during d marriage talk, u and ur wife are joined together as one.
Does it mean that from that day onwards that u and ur wife r equal coz d bible said that Jehovah God is the head of Christ, Christ is d head of man...while man is d head of woman

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Nobody: 8:31am On May 11, 2016
Man n woman are the same nature.man is not more human man than woman neither is woman more human than man. Christ is God
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by pamijlove(f): 8:56am On May 11, 2016
solite3:
Man n woman are the same nature.man is not more human man than woman neither is woman more human than man. Christ is God
dear sowie to say dat i don't get what u're saying here...man dis woman dat...my explanation is very clear and understandable...but urs doesn't even relate to what i said and even to d topic of d discussion...
They are not equal dear..
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Jessicha(f): 10:18am On May 11, 2016
solite3:
Man n woman are the same nature.man is not more human man than woman neither is woman more human than man.

and the bible said the man is the HEAD of the woman, so also God is the HEAD of Christ.

headship denotes authority ( 1 Cor 11:3)

false preacher.



Christ is God

and Christ have a God too ( Eph 1:17)

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 10:22am On May 11, 2016
pamijlove:

Imagine u got married and during d marriage talk, u and ur wife are joined together as one.
Does it mean that from that day onwards that u and ur wife r equal coz d bible said that Jehovah God is the head of Christ, Christ is d head of man...while man is d head of woman

false jw doesn't understand anything
The thread is about Jesus Christ being God
it's not about the father being head of the Son, and which doesn't alter the Op at all
and which you know nothing about


Many verses have been posted showing that Jesus is God
you are false jw so you won't believe any of them
or any verses on Jesus not being an angel
or on any verses showing that Jesus was resurrected bodily

Jesus is God, Jesus is Jehovah, you have seen all the verses posted on that
you don't believe them, your problem
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Nobody: 1:15pm On May 11, 2016
The aim of this thread is state clearly Our Lord Jesus is God. Among the myriad of verses declaring this truth I will pick John. Yes John the beloved John 1:1 in the beginning (before time began or before anything was created) was the word(the word was already in existence) and the word was with God(this does not only denote his presence with God but his existence with God from eternity and also mean the word was actively toward God) and the word was God(the word was in essence God)
Vs 2 The same was in the beginning with God(it means that the word was both God and with God at the same time,there was no progress no change,not like he was in existence n then he became God n was later with God).
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Nobody: 1:27pm On May 11, 2016
Vs 3 All things was made by him( whether in heaven or on earth and to hedge it around);and without(outside) him was not anything made that was made(there will be a great contradiction to those who claim he was created)
Vs4 In him was life(he is the original source of eternal life); and the life was the light of men(Jesus refers to himself as the way, the truth and the life)
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 1:50pm On May 11, 2016
EVERY ONE CAN NOW AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING
1. there are certain scriptures posted to johnw74 that he cant/refuse to respond to. He can claim that those scriptures had been repeated several times, but not once has he quoted and given his own view on those scriptures.
2. He has not been able to provide proof that the scriptures he quoted are not from currupted verses.
3. He has not been able to disprove facts shown to him by scholars about the currupted verses he quoted
4. He had not been able to show why older manuscripts e.g the dead sea schrolls(which had been kept hidden from his for Father's do not have some of the currupt ed verses.


johnw74:


same thing again and again, false jw thinks he can show that the Bible verses of Jesus Christ being God are not true
he has failed miserably and will continue to fail
he posts other verses that he thinks do that, but they don't as i have already shown
false jw does not understand the verses he posts, not one has shown that Jesus Christ is not God
if not all, nearly all of the verses you posted to me have been explained to you, I did not cut any part of your post off, neither did I remove any scriptures you quoted when responding.
It is you that refuses to respond again when I explain the scriptures you quoted to you, expecially when I ask questions relating to that verse that you can't answer

just look at the verses showing that Jesus is God that Jesus is Jehovah, they cannot be disputed
except by more rejection and twisting of the scriptures by non believers
post five of those verses, and I'll explain to you , then I'll post five and we will see if you can quote and explain them.
This is another Challenge to you to proof you are not a false doctrine propagator.
If the verses you quoted does not correspond to other translations or to the entire scriptures, of if it's currupt ed, I'll point it out to you, and we will see if you can do same to mine.
I'll almonize what the scriptures is really saying by using the scriptures you quoted and the one ill quote.

false jw thinks he can post scriptures against scriptures, he needs to understand those scriptures

take up my request above. or should I start first?

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 1:58pm On May 11, 2016
solite3:
Man n woman are the same nature.man is not more human man than woman neither is woman more human than man. Christ is God

yes, they have the same human nature, but they are not the same human, one is a male human with distinguishable physical, mental , phycological attitude that is different from the other which is called female!

they have the same human nature, but in a god approved union, when they become one, one of the human with human nature is the head of the other, yet they both have the same nature, just like God is the head of christ!

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 2:02pm On May 11, 2016
solite3:
The aim of this thread is state clearly Our Lord Jesus is God. Among the myriad of verses declaring this truth I will pick John. Yes John the beloved John 1:1 in the beginning (before time began or before anything was created) was the word(the word was already in existence) and the word was with God(this does not only denote his presence with God but his existence with God from eternity and also mean the word was actively toward God) and the word was God(the word was in essence God)
Vs 2 The same was in the beginning with God(it means that the word was both God and with God at the same time,there was no progress no change,not like he was in existence n then he became God n was later with God).

sir, who is the God that the word was with?
how can he be with God and still be that same God ?
" in the beginning was the word", does God has a beginning?
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Nobody: 2:23pm On May 11, 2016
14.And the word became flesh( took on him the nature of man without pulling off his God nature) and dwelt among us(men)(we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (the perfect reflection of the Father, just as the rays of the sun project the brightness of the sun)) full of grace and truth.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by Nobody: 2:58pm On May 11, 2016
Let's look at John the baptist own testimony about Jesus
19. And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priest and Levite's from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20. And he confessed and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21. And they ask him, what then? Art thou? Elias? And he saith I am not.Are thou that prophet? And he answered No.
22. Then said they unto him , who art thou? That we may give an answer to them that sent us.what sayest thou of thyself?
23. He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness,Make straight the way of the LORD, as said the prophet Esaias.
You see how John pointed to christ.he referred to himself as a voice but christ was the word cool
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by orunto27: 4:12pm On May 11, 2016
As for Jesus Christ, only Atheists won't appreciate the simple principle and practice of oneness in multiples of God's Power, Might and Hope Trinity.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 12:41am On May 12, 2016
dolphinheart:
EVERY ONE CAN NOW AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING
1. there are certain scriptures posted to johnw74 that he cant/refuse to respond to. He can claim that those scriptures had been repeated several times, but not once has he quoted and given his own view on those scriptures.
2. He has not been able to provide proof that the scriptures he quoted are not from currupted verses.
3. He has not been able to disprove facts shown to him by scholars about the currupted verses he quoted
4. He had not been able to show why older manuscripts e.g the dead sea schrolls(which had been kept hidden from his for Father's do not have some of the currupt ed verses.



if not all, nearly all of the verses you posted to me have been explained to you, I did not cut any part of your post off, neither did I remove any scriptures you quoted when responding.
It is you that refuses to respond again when I explain the scriptures you quoted to you, expecially when I ask questions relating to that verse that you can't answer


post five of those verses, and I'll explain to you , then I'll post five and we will see if you can quote and explain them.
This is another Challenge to you to proof you are not a false doctrine propagator.
If the verses you quoted does not correspond to other translations or to the entire scriptures, of if it's currupt ed, I'll point it out to you, and we will see if you can do same to mine.
I'll almonize what the scriptures is really saying by using the scriptures you quoted and the one ill quote.




take up my request above. or should I start first?


@bold, You might as well repeat everything again, you have nothing genuine to say, and saying the same things over and over again is all you ever do

@red, You don't understand at all, me having a discussion with antichrist jw
is like discussing truths with satan, I have no interest at all in that.,
I would just show satan to be wrong, as I do with antichrist jw.

You can continue to reject all of God's inspired scriptures posted on Jesus being God as much as you want
and as you have been doing, I know Jesus is God, I know the Bible verses posted are true, and so I still won't be wasting time responding to all of your rejections of the scriptures.

All you do is troll the OP and blaspheme God like a good little false jw does, calling God "a god "an angel"
and blaspheme God and the Word calling them "a two headed god"


These along with all others verses posted are true if you are going to start again, why not start here seeing that you didn't comment on them:






Here are even more verses showing that Jesus is God, showing that Jesus is Jehovah:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


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Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


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Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


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Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


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Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


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Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


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Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:08am On May 12, 2016
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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 4:09pm On May 12, 2016
johnw74:



@bold, You might as well repeat everything again, you have nothing genuine to say, and saying the same things over and over again is all you ever do
I will continue to repeat it as long as they are truth, as long as you can't provide contrary explanations, as long as you can't provide proof , and as long as you can't respond to them
EVERY ONE CAN NOW AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING
1. there are certain scriptures posted to johnw74 that he cant/refuse to respond to. He can claim that those scriptures had been repeated several times, but not once has he quoted and given his own view on those scriptures.
2. He has not been able to provide proof that the scriptures he quoted are not from currupted verses.
3. He has not been able to disprove facts shown to him by scholars about the currupted verses he quoted
4. He had not been able to show why older manuscripts e.g the dead sea schrolls(which had been kept hidden from his for Father's do not have some of the currupt ed verses.



@red, You don't understand at all, me having a discussion with antichrist jw
is like discussing truths with satan, I have no interest at all in that.,
I would just show satan to be wrong, as I do with antichrist jw.
you can't show me to be wrong cus you can't quote and explain the scriptures quoted to you, you are not capable of quoting and explaining those scriptures.

You can continue to reject all of God's inspired scriptures posted on Jesus being God as much as you want
and as you have been doing, I know Jesus is God, I know the Bible verses posted are true, and so I still won't be wasting time responding to all of your rejections of the scriptures.
it is you that reject gods word, I post it to you, but you refuse to respond to it. to show people once again what Kind of person you are ill quote the word of God to you once more and they should see that you wunt respond to it , you wunt share or tell your understanding of those scriptures!

King James Version
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

* READERS SHOULD NOTE ONCE MORE THAT HE HAD BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE HIS VIEW OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ABOVE, PLS NOTE AND SEE IF HE WILL TELL OR SHARE HIS UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE SCRIPTURES ABOVE, EXPECIALLY THE COLOURED PARTS


All you do is troll the OP and blaspheme God like a good little false jw does, calling God "a god "an angel"
and blaspheme God and the Word calling them "a two headed god"


These along with all others verses posted are true if you are going to start again, why not start here seeing that you didn't comment on them:
you did not post them to me, if you had wanted me to respond, you know what you should have done.

Here are even more verses showing that Jesus is God, showing that Jesus is Jehovah:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Does making the same reference to God(jehovah) and to his son(jesus) imply they are the same person? no

Why then does heb 1:10 quote psa 102:25 and apply it to the Son, when the psalm says that it is addressed to God?
Answer :Because the Son is the one through whom God performed the creative works there described by the psalmist.

[b]King James Version
Col 1:15,16 -Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16. For by him(*through him, by means of him) were all (*other)things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

King James Version
Pr 8:22,27-30The LORD possessed(*brought me forth/formed/created/ produced)me in the beginning of his way, before HIS WORKS of old.
27 [color=blue]When HE prepared the heavens, I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;[/b]

(*) depending on the translation you use .

verse 30 of other translations say :
New International Version
Then I was constantly at his side.......
New Living Translation
I was the architect at his side........
English Standard Version
then I was beside him, like a master workman......
New American Standard Bible
Then I was beside Him, as a master workman......
Holman Christian Standard Bible
I was a skilled craftsman beside Him...........
International Standard Version
Then I was with him, his master craftsman........
NET Bible
then I was beside him as a master craftsman.........
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I was fashioning with him.........
GOD'S WORD® Translation
I was beside him as a master craftsman......
New American Standard 1977
Then I was beside Him, as a master workman.....
King James 2000 Bible
Then I was by him, like a master workman.......
American Standard Version
Then I was by him, as a master workman.....
Douay-Rheims Bible
I was with him forming all things.....
Then I was by him, as a master workman......
World English Bible
then I was the craftsman by his side..........
Young's Literal Translation
Then I am near Him, a workman........

biblehub.com/proverbs/8-30.htm

King James Version
Heb 1:1,2God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
:2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,[/blue] whom he hath appointed heir of all things, [color]by whom also he made the worlds;

King James Version
1Co 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, OF WHOM*(FROM WHOM)are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, BY WHOM(THROUGH WHOM) are all things, and we by him


It should be observed in heb 1:5b that a quotation is made from 2 sam 7:14 and applied to the Son of God. Although that text had its first application to Solomon, the later application of it to Jesus Christ does not mean that Solomon and Jesus ARE THE SAME.

Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Joh 5:22, 23For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,23so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.

if you bow to the Son, you are inavently bowing to the father(god), cus it was the father that commanded it. and according to php 2:11 that you quoted , AlL is to the glory of who ? THE FATHER, THE ONLY TRUE GOD!, JEHOVAH!
jesus is not the same person as the father.

look at verse 9 of that same php chap 2

King James Version
Php 2:9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:


did God exalt himself? no
did God exalt someone else ? yes

King James Version
Ro 10:9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


did God raise hims elf? no
did God raise someone else? yes

who gave jesus the name everyone bows to ? The father, God, the only true god (php 2:9)

Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.
did rev 17:14 call jesus God of God's? no
who is the God of gods ? jehovah
I wonder why the KJV removed the name of God in Deut 10:17

@bolded
King James Version
De 17:14When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;

Johnw74, the above shows you did not read the verse before posting it, you just did copy and paste and never studied what you where copying.


Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

if you had read the scriptures well you would have understood
[b]King James Version
Lu 1:31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God SHALL GIVE unto him the throne of his father David:

Jesus Christ is the son of God and thus was given the throne of isreal. Nathaniel understood this, do you?

rev 22:13 is not referring to jesus.

to be continued......

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 6:58pm On May 12, 2016
@ johnw74 continued

Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


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the scriptures says Jehovah is our savior and also mentions jesus as our savior, does this mean that Jesus is Jehovah ? no


in times past jehovah had redeemed mankind through his powerful hands and sometimes
saved the isrealites through people.

King James Version
Ne 9:27Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.


but in the Christian era, Jehovah used jesus to redeem us, after acknowledging that the father is the God of jesus Christ, the apostle said this:
King James Version
Eph 1:5-7Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by(*through) Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of HIS will,
6,To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. King James Version
7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

(note, some Translations say :
New Living Translation
He is so rich in kindness and grace that he purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Through the blood of his Son, we are set free from our sins. God forgives our failures because of his overflowing kindness.
)

so you can see that our redemption is from God through Jesus Christ, do you remember who sent jesus to redeem us and why?

[b]Ac 20:28Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own Son.

Ro 3:24,25 and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom paid by Christ Jesus.
25. God presented him as an offering for propitiation through faith in his blood. This was to demonstrate his own righteousness, because God in his forbearance was forgiving the sins that occurred in the past.

Re 5:9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people [/color=blue]for God[/color] out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,

jude 25 (English Standard Version)
to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen

1Ti 2:5, 6For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,6who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.[/b]

Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

who was pierced, Jesus or jehovah or both?
Answer : jesus

King James Version
Joh 19:34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

King James Version
Joh 20:25The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

what does the kjv say concerning the fulfillment of these prophecy?
[b]King James Version
Joh 19:37And again another scripture saith, They shall look ON HIM whom they have pierced




Zechariah 12:10 (New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of mercy and supplication, so that when they look on him whom they have thrust through, they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and they will grieve for him as one grieves over a firstborn.

Zechariah 12:10 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Mourning for the Pierced One
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over......

Zechariah 12:10 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
Mourning for the Pierced One
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one....

Zechariah 12:10 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
Mourning for the One Pierced with a Spear
I, the LORD, will make the descendants of David and the people of Jerusalem feel deep sorrow and pray when they see the one they pierced with a spear. They will mourn and weep for him, as parents weep over the death of their only child or their first-born.[/color]

Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


both verses are talking about jehovah . since your translation removed the name of God in Joel 2:32, how could you know it was jehovah that was being talked about when it was quoted by the apostles in rom 10:13

Joe 2:32And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls.”

NOW I HAVE FULLY RESPONDED TO ALL THE SCRIPTURES YOU QUOTED, I EXPLAINED THEM AND USED THE SCRIPTURES TO SURPPORT MY VIEWS
NOW LETS SEE IF YOU CAN DO THE SAME FOR THE FOLLOWING SCRIPTURES

King James Version
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

King James Version
1Co 15:27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
King James Version
1Co 15:28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.



heb

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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:12am On May 13, 2016
^^^

false jw say: "the Father and the Son are not the same person"
duh, they are the same God is what it's about

Many words are needed to avoid and to twist the truth

however scriptures have been posted showing that Jesus Christ is indeed God, that Jesus Christ is Jehovah


No one but antichrists go to so much twisting and denying of the truth

not just one or two verses are wrong a/c says, but every verse posted showing that Jesus is God, that Jesus is Jehovah is wrong, false jw say.




The verses posted certainly do show that Jesus is God, is Jehovah
which all Christians who do not hold to false doctrines can see


It is clear from the scriptures posted that Jesus is God, that Jesus is Jehovah
those scriptures have not been believed and have been twisted to say something else in this thread by an atheist and a muslim, but from the beginning by false jw with an agenda to do their fathers will, pushing their satanic doctrines.



Jesus is Jehovah according to God inspired scriptures:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


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Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


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Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


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Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


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Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


....


Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


....


Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:16am On May 13, 2016
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

the Word God was made flesh and dwelt among us
in this thread a atheist, a muslim, and mainly false jw have denied that the Word God has come in the flesh
they are antichrists

many Bible verses have been posted in this thread showing that the Word is God
like these few:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus and everlasting Father = God and the Word is God, John 1:1 and all the other verses

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

the Word, God, came in the flesh
antichrists deny that, with antichrist jw saying:
"a god" came in the flesh, "an angel" came in the flesh, half of the "two headed god" came in the flesh
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:29am On May 13, 2016
antichrist jw teach that when it comes to the Bible, every verse in it that doesn't agree with their satanic doctrines is untrue
and they deny much of the bible and they twist what it say's

false jw change much of the Bible:
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

antichrist jw change some of the book of revelation:
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 1:36am On May 13, 2016
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Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 2:34am On May 13, 2016
I only glanced through false jw's twisting of scripture
and see where he change the subject to: Father and God not being the same person
when it's not about being the same person, it's about being the same God

but some of what antichrist jw say are so pathetic I have to reply
actually they are all pathetic but I'm not wasting time on all

dolphinheart:


rev 22:13 is not referring to Jesus.


Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

It is Jesus who comes quickly, who comes again, and who then said "I am Alpha and Omega"

Jesus then said:
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

So it is affirmed again: it is Jesus angel testifying for Jesus who said: "I am Alpha and Omega"

Jesus angel speaks for Jesus to John throughout the book of revelation

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
the "he" in above verse that sent revelation by His angel is Jesus as rev 22:16 shows

soon after on another occasion Jesus again said through His angel:
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

it is Jesus who is to come again
John called Jesus "the Almighty"

and these show that it is Jesus that speaks to John through His angel:
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by dolphinheart(m): 10:49am On May 13, 2016
EVERY ONE CAN NOW SEE THAT THE OP IS A FRAUD. HE CAN NOT
1. refute or deny evidences/ proofs bought by scholars as to the curruption of the verses he quoted.
2. bring any evidence/ proof to surpport his quote of currupted text
3. respond to statements made on the currupted texts .

He has refused to share his understanding of certain scriptures posted to him, despite accepting the challenge and posting several scriptures above the stipulated 5 to surpport his views.

He has refused to respond to reply on the scriptures he quoted, preferring not to see them.
He has refused to respond to several questions asked about the verses he quoted.

readers can see that his method of not responding to truth is to cut off parts someone else post, expecially the parts that he cannot respond to and which exposes his teachings as false.

readers can see that their where several attempts made to make him respond to certain scriptures, but he vehemently refuses to do so.

A PERSONS BEHAVIOR WHEN DISCUSSING GOD'S WORD, HIS INABILITY OR REFUSAL TO RESPOND TO CERTAIN SCRIPTURES VERSES GOES A LONG WAY IN DETERMINING IF THAT PERSONS IS TRUTHFULL OR JUST WANT TO SHARE FALSE TEACHINGS!
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 2:02am On May 14, 2016
^^^
all false jw dolphinheart can do is falsely accuse
he has nothing else but lies, heck, he denies every scripture in this thread showing that
Jesus Christ is God

is the KJV wrong on every one of false jw's satanic doctrines
A. no, it shows them to be what they are
wolves in sheeps clothing


When false jw knock on your door or come into your house, they are like lambs
but look at them in this forum, how they are anything but lambs

disbelieving all the Bible verses that say differently to their satanic doctrines
and look at all of their false accusing and calling others liars
they are not lambs at all, but wolves

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

isn't that describing false jw to a t, many of their false prophecies have been exposed in these forums

Pro_19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 3:41am On May 14, 2016
Why would John bother to say that the Word is "a god", as false jw falsely teach
of course to declare that the Word "is God", makes it worthy of saying

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

ac jw say that many scriptures don't mean what they say, they mean something else
Re: Jesus Christ Is God by johnw74: 3:44am On May 14, 2016
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
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Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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