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Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Nobody: 1:45pm On May 13, 2016 |
mightyhazel:protesting for the igbos is like taking panadol for another man's headache. E no concern us. why bomb Lagos when you had Kano and sokoto available for such? And why did you have to invade Midwest? 3 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by ogmask: 1:48pm On May 13, 2016 |
MasterofNL: Thats because Lagos was the capital of Nigeria then. |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by mightyhazel: 1:51pm On May 13, 2016 |
bloodyBLOGGER:nobody asked for protests mister! But if u cud keep quiet and let ur house be used as a launchground 2 attack me,don't feel I am aggressive if I find d attacker 2 ur house. Simple logic! Wot wud biafran forces be doin in kano wen dia attackers were in lagos? ... Y invade the midwest? Midwest is enroute lagos from the east. It was bound 2 be marched upon in the quest 2 smoke out the vandals holed up in lagos . Biafran high command tried to make the movement v swift and with minimal damage,but for victor banjo's sabotage ,which made d quest drag longer than necessary ..,with the attendant frictions and casualties.. 12 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Alokendra(m): 2:01pm On May 13, 2016 |
gidgiddy:Sovereignty my foot! Who told you Yoruba was interested in going to war in the first place. You goats still don't get it. It was your battle not ours. Your ways are not our ways. If you yeeboes believe in using your people as pawns, that's your fvcking problem. Yoruba wasn't at war with anybody. You only wanted to drag Yoruba into it so that the war can fought in Yoruba land. The same scenario is playing out today by wanting to drag the S'S into your phantom Biafra. Ojukwu was a greedy fellow. The war wasn't about sovereigninty, it never was. It was about controlling the oil in the Minority regions. Yeeboes and FG fought for oil, and the FG won. That's the simple truth! So cry us a river son. Your problem is your problem; every attempt to lure us into it would be resisted fiercely. If you have an Axe to grind with the Abokis, go slug it out with them. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by T9ksy(m): 2:36pm On May 13, 2016 |
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Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by gidgiddy: 2:46pm On May 13, 2016 |
[quote author=bloodyBLOGGER post=45579038][/quote] you mean he had an ally in the same ojukwu who took his army and match to awolow's region and even bombed agege area of Lagos? All of this happened during or after the war when any such alliance was no longer necessary. I was talking about before the conflict started. the north had their men mostly dominating the military with the remainder being ibos. So, the north didn't need any groundnut to fight a war So you don't know that without money and economic resouces it is not possible to fight a war? It doesn't matter if the North dominated the military, without the support they had in the South from the SW, they could not have fought any war. holding a naked wire with bate teeth is what fools like you call bravery, while being tactful is cowards. The same ojukwu lost the war he shouldn't have fought and still came back to do a lot of asslickingg by contesting for presidency in the same country he detest. shame Bravery is when you can fight despite difficulties, cowardice is when you cannot fight despite anything. Ojukwu fought a war and came back and contested the presidenny of the country he had accepted. A most honourable thing to do. People fight all the time, make up and life goes on the reason you don't blame him is the same reason why you people are still protesting and whining about the war. You exempt an ojukwu that fled and abandoned you in war only to blame an awolowo that fed you in war The reason you talk like that is because you don't know what freedom fighting means. We are Igbos, we fought the British in Ekumeku war, we fought them again in the Arochukwu wars. We fought the civil war. We are a people who fight for our freedom. We don't say "oh we are not prepared! The northerners will kill us! Let's accept the North as our slave masters!". We don't do this. Ojukwu fought bravely for 3 years as the great Igbo son he is and when the end came, he escaped. If you were waiting for Ojukwu to stay back and be killed over a war that had almost ended, keep waiting.
Every Soldier is taught that in a hopeless situation, rather than get captured by the enemy, he or she should find an escape route. No Soldier is ever taught to be a martyr. Ojukwu followed his training and left and I'm happy he did cause he denied Nigerians like you the chance of using his dead body as a propaganda tool. Ojukwus body was later given one of the highest honours ever given to an African when he died. ojukwu's memory ought to be obliterated For that happen, you will have to obliterate Igbos as well because as far as most Igbos are concerned, Ojukwu was the greatest man who ever walked the earth after Jesus. 4 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by T9ksy(m): 2:49pm On May 13, 2016 |
mightyhazel: And who are the ones launching ground attacks on iboland? And who the ones sitting in ikoyi to plan attacks on iboland? The same northerners who obviously comes from the northern part of the country and whom the ibos were fighting but chose to fight in yorubaland. 3 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by infoispower: 3:14pm On May 13, 2016 |
military installations before civil war: Northern Nigeria: 1. 3rd Bn Kaduna 2. 5th Bn Kano 3. 1 Field Battery (Arty) Kaduna 4. 1 Field Squadron (Engrs) Kaduna 5. 88 Transport Regt Kaduna 6. Nigerian Defense Academy " 7. Ordinance Depot " 8. 44 Military Hospital " 9. Nigeria Military Training College " 10. Recon Squadron & Regt " 11. Nigerian Air Force " 12. Ammunition Factory " 13. Recruit Training Depot Zaria 14. Nigerian Military School " Western Nigeria: 1. 4th Bn Ibadan 2. 2 Field Battery (Arty) Abeokuta 3. 2 Recon Squaron " Eastern Nigeria: 1st Bn Enugu ---------------- use your brain and not emotions or passion 1 Like |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by mightyhazel: 3:35pm On May 13, 2016 |
T9ksy:we talkin 60's here mister! Civil war era. 11 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Ariani: 4:06pm On May 13, 2016 |
Can someone get us that Bishopmagic thread with pictures of Yoruba protesters in Lagos in 1968, with placards that read: " France leave our oil for us". https://www.nairaland.com/1352306/fought-oil-not-nigerias-unity 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Menace2Society(m): 4:11pm On May 13, 2016 |
Noneroone:You calling your fellow IPOB chai 1 Like |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Ariani: 4:13pm On May 13, 2016 |
"With the war ended, and as a Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon found that the Rivers State for which I had fought did not end my nightmare. In the first place, oil money from Ogoni country (as well as Ijaw country) was being carted away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate and backward. This is anti-federalism". That placard will explain why the above happened right after the civil war. Yet some cholesterolphilic people wonder why the Niger Delta Avengers are not just pouring their anger towards North, but towards them too, with Lagos a prime target. 1 Like |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by pchukwudi: 4:30pm On May 13, 2016 |
[s] T9ksy:[/s] Young man, you are simply trying to interprete history from your current perspective without due regards to historic facts. You simply have no grasp of the facts. And your speculations do not appear so logical to me. For starters, here are some facts and thoughts to ponder: 1. Contrary to your insinuation, the yorubas were not neutral during the war. 2. Lots of Yoruba soldiers fought on the Nigeria side, while some fought on the Biafra side. 3. The actual reason Yorubas did not alley with the easteners enmass was because of hate politics spread in the west in pre-67 elections, where akintola portrayed yorubas as economic victims to igbos whom he claimed dominated comnerce in lagos. He conviniently blamed this false yoruba victimization narative on Awolowo, who obviously was pro igbo at the time. 4. When akintola was killed during the coupe Awolowo had his chance to steer the west in the right direction but he had not the guts. 5. If the yorubas had solidly stood with the igbos on ojukwu's demands the north would not have had the morale to go into the war considering that the midwestern region was also a willing alley to the eastern region. This is my last on this discurse. 4 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by pchukwudi: 4:40pm On May 13, 2016 |
Alokendra: The oil had absolutely nothing to do with the declaration of Biafra. Your father lied to you or your history teacher was a nut case. 2 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Alokendra(m): 4:50pm On May 13, 2016 |
pchukwudi:Say that to the marines! Bloody liar! I do not except an IPod yoot to admit it before. This excerpt from Wikipedia says it all: Breakaway On 27 May 1967, Gowon proclaimed the division of Nigeria into twelve states. This decree carved the Eastern Region in three parts: South Eastern State , Rivers State, and East Central State. Now the Igbos, concentrated in the East Central State, would lose control over most of the petroleum, located in the other two areas. [55][56] On 30 May 1967, Ojukwu declared independence of the Republic of Biafra. The Federal Military Government immediately placed an embargo on all shipping to and from Biafra—but not on oil tankers. [54][55] Biafra quickly moved to collect oil royalties from oil companies doing business within its borders. [55] When Shell-BP acquiesced to this request at the end of June, the Federal Government extended its blockade to include oil.[57] The blockade, which most foreign actors accepted, played a decisive role in putting Biafra at a disadvantage from the beginning of the war. [58] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War 2 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by ihitenansa: 5:20pm On May 13, 2016 |
Ehen I don show for the show Where all dose ppl wen dey make all dese noise wen I dey hear frm my backyard Meanwhile,.. All I see here is free education,... Mightyhazel,pchukwudi et al, offering free education to ma yoruba peeps,.. all thread long 7 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Volksfuhrer(m): 5:22pm On May 13, 2016 |
mightyhazel: Spare us the melodrama. Secession meant war; even Ojukwu knew that, except you. In any case, "Who fired the first shot?" is a question of fact. Remember, Biafra invaded the Midwest! And then the West!! Or are you saying it was okay for Biafra to do that but wrong for Federal troops to invade Biafra? Merely blaming others for the blunders of Biafra's leaders says a lot about you. Simply put, Ojukwu refused reasonable advice and arrogantly believed Biafra's troops could go it alone and win the war... He thought wrong...and lost. A quote from Hilary Njoku's Memoir (A Tragedy Without Heroes) is instructive, "...It was the same Biafran spirit which led Chief Awolowo to declare publicly that if the Eastern Region was pushed out of Nigeria, then the Western Region would follow suit. When Ojukwu moved too fast recklessly in his ostrich strategy, the same Chief Awolowo led a delegation of Western and some Midwestern leaders to Enugu on 6th May, 1967 and pleaded with Ojukwu not to secede, reminding him that the Western Region was not militarily ready to follow suit in view of the weaknesses of the Western Command of the Nigerian Army and the dominant position of the Northern troops in the West. Ojukwu turned a deaf ear to this advice”.(p.141) And if you must know, Hilary Njoku was the head of Biafra's Army at the start of the war! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by T9ksy(m): 5:26pm On May 13, 2016 |
pchukwudi: 1. The war was evidently between the north and the east( former bedfellows) after ibo military boys had gone and killed some northern leaders and yoruba leaders whilst sparing theirs. The north retaliated with their revenge coup six months, later. Even at that, the northern folks were still baying, most especially for ibo bloods including other southerners. 2. Yeah some yorubas fought for biafra but you conveniently and mischievously omit to say that they were already held captive in the eastern region prior to the commencement of hostility between the two sides. They certainly didn't have much choice in the matter as am sure Ojukwu would not have released them from their incarceration if they were not prepared to fight in his ill-fated BLF. He would have probably had them shot as potential saboteurs. 3. This your point is obviously another one of the fallacies you lot are fond of repeating like broken records. At any rate, did the ibos not dominated political spheres of southern nigeria in the first republic simply by virtue of their willingness to align with the north, playing their subordinate? Akintola's campaign speech to his people clearly depicts how the ibos had no qualms marginalising yorubas in their own region under the guise of One fake Nigeria. It was this act of greed and insensitivity by the ibos that forced the likes of Akintola , Ayo rosiji and the rest to go looking north for their own share of the national cake. 4. That depends on what you think is the "right direction" for Awo to steer yoruba politics. Certainly, you would have prefer if awo had placed his people under the ibos protection and eventual tutulage? Unfortunately, Awo and his fellow lieutenants did not fancy ibo's (much-promised & prophesied) domination of their ancestral homeland. 5. Liar! The midwest region were not aligned with the eastern region. They were also neutral and their military governor had actually asked for and got a promise from Ojukwu not to bring his stu.pid war to his shore but naturally , the midwest was the first region, ojukwu occupied in his bid to seceed from the coutry. 5 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Volksfuhrer(m): 5:41pm On May 13, 2016 |
pchukwudi: Pure Nonsense! Yorubas were neutral until Biafra attacked the West. Yorubas saw Akintola as a traitor. Akintola's rants didn't sway Yorubas' perception of him as a traitor. Guts alone do not win wars, good planning and solid preparation do. Didn't Awolowo warn Ojukwu that the West wasn't prepared for war? (Hilary Njoku, A Tragedy Without Heroes, p.141). Stop blaming Yorubas for Biafra's defeat, it is stale and empty. 5 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by T9ksy(m): 5:56pm On May 13, 2016 |
Volksfuhrer: Of course, Awo warned ojukwu against the war unambiguously expressing yoruba's unpreparedness and reality on the ground for such an uprising but ojukwu, in his acte state of delusional euphoria still went ahead with his egocentric and ambitious war but somehow in his clearly inept strategy, expected the yorubas to stick their necks out for his war which would be of no benefit to them, ultimately. 2 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 6:07pm On May 13, 2016 |
mightyhazel: And do you know history? Did Yoruba's ever joined without an incursion into her territory? Was it not the incursion and the fact that Yoruba's were not militarily ready for Ojukwu's incursion that let to Awo's desires to end the war so that his people would not be like the people of the mid-west? Was Ore not a theater of war before Awo gave his advice that only with a change of currencies can help save his people from being consumed by the cross-fire? Unless you are damned mischievous will you think Awo should have allowed Yoruba's to be slaughtered by both obviously aggrieved gladiators before he decided to take a side. Maybe if an holocaust which Ojukwu was bent on unleashing on all those who did not take his side in the Civil War and which Gowon's Army unleashed on Delta indigenes had taken place,folks like you would have gleefully bragged about it. Hear this today: every national entity always does its best for its survival and the only way Yoruba's would have survived the gory of the Civil war in the face of the marching Biafra army that massacred those resisting her in Benin was for Awo to advice a change in currency to cripple such an audacious militants. Sorry, if the same scenario repeats itself and the Yoruba's are in danger of an holocaust, we'll do it over and over again. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 6:15pm On May 13, 2016 |
T9ksy: Don't mind them. They forgot that Yoruba's were in no way preparing for war and wouldn't have sentimentally gone ahead to their doom. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 6:31pm On May 13, 2016 |
mightyhazel: Made it swift by decimating people in Ore right? Forget your logic. Yoruba's were in no way prepared for a war in which Ojukwu was very very prepared for. Awo saved Yoruba's from genocide from Hausa's and Igbo's and ended up positioning his people for a say in Nigeria history. Call it any name bcoz it doesn't favor you but Yoruba's are not know to be confrotational but one who can deal a massive blow should they be looked down on. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by ihitenansa: 8:30pm On May 13, 2016 |
Olabestonic001:you just depicted an opportunistic tribe mr! So yorubas are not confrontational,...and they knw how to sweet talk demselves to a neutral corner till action starts. Then they can swiftly move in,taking sides with any side dat looks as tho they could win. Dats not a v noble depiction! 5 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by ihitenansa: 8:40pm On May 13, 2016 |
Olabestonic001:really? So all dat talk by pa awolowo about not taking sides in the event of full blown hostilities was just mere cheap talk? Sorry not mere cheap talk,but pure deception, to goad unsuspecting sides to start a war,so dat he can take sides and position his ethnic group in the scheme of things to come? Dats ur logic tho,not mine BTW 4 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by monsterlobster: 8:48pm On May 13, 2016 |
Great speech by the sage himself! A true leader. Best president nigeria never had. Ojukwu 1 Like |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by omonnakoda: 8:49pm On May 13, 2016 |
MasterofNL:HE did not separate it. That was the constitutional order. Those old enough would know that he was the Premier of the Western region and his jurisdiction did not extend to "LAGOS" "LAGOS" did not mean Lagos State. Lagos ended somewhere around Fela's House. It did not include Ikeja (developed by Awo) Epe Ikorodu or Badagry Divisions as they were then called which were ALL part of the Western Region . Places Like Orile,Agege, Mushin Onipanu Ketu were ALL Western Region Lagos had a Municipal authority under a Federal Minister one of whom was Yar'adua's father/ "Lagos" was Lagos Island,Victoria Island,Ikoyi Lagos Mainland up to just before Idi-Oro 3 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 9:07pm On May 13, 2016 |
ihitenansa: Oh, noble my foot! America was neutral during WW2 till she was provoked and it used the advantage of all parties being wearied in Europe to claim victory. Certainly, it seems most of you guys mistook War for Battle. Battle is how brave and mighty you are, War is how tactical and maneuvering you are. Definitely, the Igbo's have guts and bravery in no small quantity and are good for Battles but tactics is obviously alien to the Igbo race and I can say they've not (and might NEVER learn) the Art of War. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 9:10pm On May 13, 2016 |
ihitenansa: Oh, noble my foot! America was neutral during WW2 till she was provoked and it used the advantage of all parties being wearied in Europe to claim victory. Certainly, it seems most of you guys mistook War for Battle. Battle is how brave and mighty you are, War is how tactical and maneuvering you are. Definitely, the Igbo's have guts and bravery in no small quantity and are good for Battles but tactics is obviously alien to the Igbo race and I can say they've not (and might NEVER learn) the Art of War. Ditto Kanu's tactics which all his supporters seems to favor rather than Tinubu's tactics of a faceless row. Call the Yoruba's deceptive but they'd win a War far easily than a battle. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by ihitenansa: 9:41pm On May 13, 2016 |
Olabestonic001:lol! Evry1 knows how maneuvering and manipulative yorubas are,so coming out to paint noble and harmless pictures of themselves is actually a rile up on ppls intelligence. Ofcourse ur cunning nature is well known to evry1. America joined the war to defeat an oppressive force. Nazi forces were occupying hapless countries and forming concentration camps all over,...killing and oppressing jews and. Other nationalities. The nigerian scenerio was an exact opposite! The opportunistic yorubas witnessed what befell the igbos in the country right from 1966 jan military reprisal killings/pogroms on inncent populations,...to the start of hostilities proper. Their sage awolowo gave deceptive and misleading speeches of solidarity,..only for them 2 wait in the wings to weigh who is likely to win,b4 shamelessly pouncing on an already traumatised but studious populations in the east! Just so that theycan position themselves well to milk the country afterwards! My friend never again in ur life compare ur actions and motives during the civil war with the noble ones of america during the world war. So u don't appear like a v daft circus clown 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by Olabestonic001(m): 12:09am On May 14, 2016 |
ihitenansa: Yes, the opportunistic Yoruba's so much hated the Innocent Igbo's that they wanna wipe them away from the surface of the earth. The innocent Igbo's neither encroached their lands nor attempted to turn their soil to a theater of war. The Innocent Igbo's wanted to make the lands of the betrayal -Yoruba's a paradise of sort and not a monument of fools who died for their Angelic brothers in the now famous Biafra. The betrayers Yoruba's never warned the ever pious and humble Ojukwu not to go to war and the humble Ojukwu heard. The Angelic Igbo's were so much at the receiving ends because Yoruba's hated them so much decided to kill over 3million people. The Igbo's didn't blow up innocent Yoruba's at a cinema in Yaba in 1967- No, they were innocent of that. Guy, wake up! Bcoz d Yoruba's didn't allow themselves to be used as sacrifices in the Biafra civil war is the greatest regrets of folks like you. Yoruba will always chose what is best for her and a million blackmails as you guy laments daily wont change them much. Unless you enter a league with Yoruba's, we are not obliged to accede to your sentiments. 5 Likes |
Re: Pre-biafra War: Obafemi Awolowo’s Speech To Western Nigeria Leaders Of Thought by gidgiddy: 12:43am On May 14, 2016 |
Alokendra: If it was not your battle then why didn't your regional Governor then not declare the western region neural in any conflict between the east and north? If it was not your battle, why did you people aid the north in the civil war? If it was not your battle, why does the average Yoruba man hate anything about the the former eastern region and part of the old midewest region seceding? You think as as an Igbo man I care who secedes from Nigeria? It has always been your battle. 'One Nigeria' will always be your battle. Unfortunately, not everyone shares that sentiment. |
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