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Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Rilwayne001: 5:37pm On May 17, 2016
Empiree:
we may have derailed this thread a little but here is some articles with evidences.

They aren't that long though.
http://www.fountainmagazine.com/Issue/detail/What-does-Islam-say-about-killing-an-innocent-person


http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=88352


I guess what I'm trying to say is simply the degrees of gruesome crimes they committed.
I will have to check back as the sub I am using is limited to Nairaland. I will get back to you afterwards.

May Allah forgive my shortcomings.
Aamin
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree: 5:43pm On May 17, 2016
lexiconkabir:
I know, but i brought that up becuz scholar was linking it up to terrorists(which we all know who they are working for), and i believe this is what brother Ridwan was asking about.
Yes, if he's referring in that sense, absolutely their abode is ETERNAL DAMN.

I knew that already who they freaking work for. I was never really thinking about damn people. Was just thinking of killers rationally.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 12:51am On May 18, 2016
Rilwayne001:
As a matter of fact, Christian denominations have waged war against one another. Dont tell me you are ignorant of this.
Mr Muslim u are talking about the 30 year old war that happened after the breakaway by Lutherans and Co in Europe... Christians quickly made peace and moved forward...and are deeply ashamed of that brief moment in its 2016 year history.. By the way all Christians at that time believed in the trinity, the bone of Contention was differences in understanding translation and some books that were disputed.

Now can u compare that with u sunnis that have bathed in the blood and body parts of non-sunnis for 1400 years..

However that is not the point.
It may not be the point but it shows how hypocritical u are.

The point is why so many differences?
Actually there are very little differences..
All Christians believe Christ is God made flesh

Why is your belief different from that of jman05 and dolphin heart? They both belief Jesus to be an archangel and not God, why didn't you believe so? Aren't you reading same Bible?
That's the believe of Mormons.. Mormons are not Christians.. Jehova witnesses have similar believes.. Go and study their history and see how the organizations were started by men who bear stark resemblance to Mohammed..the last for power drive men to commit great frauds..

Again that is not the bone of contention here.



I don't know. However in the words of my brother "
no Muslim would say Muhammad is God. The moment you say that, you are out of the fold. We do not discount that. No muslim, no matter the sects believe any God's prophet is God. We may have differences in application of Law, fiqh (jurisprudence) etc but NOT tawheed (God's Oneness) which is foundation on which Islam is built.
Actually Mohammed is far from a god... He was a mass murdering Arab slaver and paedophile.. He is the only prophet of Islam..
Our point is, in Christianity, your differences are deep when it comes to foundation which Christianity is built upon. Note that Muslims dont joke with this foundation because this is, according to "Abrahamic religion", the only non-forgivable sin"... smiley
If u deny the relationship between the father and the son and deny Jesus is the Christ then u are not a Christian.. Period.. All Christians believe this and if u don't then u ain't a Christian.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Demmzy15(m): 1:48am On May 18, 2016
parisbookaddict:
Mr Muslim u are talking about the 30 year old war that happened after the breakaway by Lutherans and Co in Europe... Christians quickly made peace and moved forward...and are deeply ashamed of that brief moment in its 2016 year history.. By the way all Christians at that time believed in the trinity, the bone of Contention was differences in understanding translation and some books that were disputed.
Does it change the fact that 8 million people perished? In fact thanks for even bringing out more truth, what's ironic is that even though there's grudge between Sunni and Shia, the amount of deaths isn't up to this. We also can't forget how unitarian Christians were burnt on stakes just because they didn't support Trinity, Michael Servetus would never escape our minds. Isaac Newton(a unitarian, non-trinitarian) had to hid his beliefs if not, he would have been executed!!!

Catholics and Protestants still fight in Ireland, and some Christians have gone to some extent to beat Jehovah witness!

Now can u compare that with u sunnis that have bathed in the blood and body parts of non-sunnis for 1400 years..
What bloodbaths are you talking about? The only time Sunnis and Shia had a large confrontation was during the Iraq/Iran war and it wasn't even up to the deaths in your own wars. Don't even try and compare!

It may not be the point but it shows how hypocritical u are.
You're the big nonsensical hypocrite here!

Actually there are very little differences..
All Christians believe Christ is God made flesh
So those who don't share your beliefs are not Christians even though they profess? You see excommunication, later you'll opening your brown teeth, if it was then they would have been burnt on stakes. Jesus is not a god, he's a man like me and you, stop deceiving yourself. If you don't change, it's going to be messy for you!

That's the believe of Mormons.. Mormons are not Christians.. Jehova witnesses have similar believes.. Go and study their history and see how the organizations were started by men who bear stark resemblance to Mohammed..the last for power drive men to commit great frauds..
Close that your dirty stinky gworo chewing teeth huh Are you not tired, you've been doing this for like 5years now, can't you see your evangelism of lies and deception are working again?

Actually Mohammed is far from a god... He was a mass murdering Arab slaver and paedophile.. He is the only prophet of Islam..
Nobody ever claimed he was a God, all the qualities you mentioned above are perfect description of the pedophilic monster you call a God.

If u deny the relationship between the father and the son and deny Jesus is the Christ then u are not a Christian.. Period.. All Christians believe this and if u don't then u ain't a Christian.
Oya can you now face your front!
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree:
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by SujiAndrew(m): 6:58am On May 18, 2016
We have had to fight on this for centuries; do you think ladies have roles to play in pulpit ministry?
This blog will clarify all your doubts regarding this topic.
http://www.sujiandrewsblog.tk/2016/04/do-ladies-have-place-in-pulpit-ministry.html
Be blessed as you read in the name of our lord Jesus Christ!

Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 6:03pm On May 18, 2016
9jacrip:
I had already scrapped the thread but you mentioned me for this?

You claimed Islam is similar to science in how it can pass a falsification test and this is the passing falsification test by quoting a quran and I'm supposed to go with this as passing falsification test?

You actually went to a school, right?

Again, science subjects its claims to falsification tests in this manner:

1. Question (Prove to us that Muhammed indeed spoke with any angel at all).

2. Do a background research (You have cited quran).

3. Hypothesis (Yes, indeed he spoke with the Angel going by the quran).

4. Test your hypothesis/experiment (where is the experiment).

5. Analyze your data (where's the data from experiment).

6. Result (where is your result to prove your hypothesis?)

7. 3rd party testings (what formula or what parameters did you use to conduct your experiment so I & others can try it too).

It was you who put Islam & Science in the same sentence. Like one of your brothers said, 'be cocksure before making a statement' - you just ruined the chances of any outsider taking you or Islam falsification tests serious.

Keep this in mind: like fraud, anything (including Abrahamic religion) telling you to walk by faith & just believe has no means of passing a falsification test and it is not or will never be in the same league as science. Science doesn't tell you to 'believe' it shows you to believe; if it is not seen with the eyes then it can never pass a falsification test.

No wonder we churn out thousands of graduates yearly but we can't invent or produce shit! We would rather be scholars in religion.

Wtf?!

So much for passing falsification test. 'Quran said...'

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mtbu.gif
If i were you i wont be writing such a long ESSAY to someone who has accepted him being challenged . HAS TRUTH ANYTHING TO FEAR?

A sentence or two is just enough as a response.

1. BE CORK SURE

2. THEN STATING THE NEW RULE NO 7.

As regards 3 party to judge. I have the ATHEIST in mind. They are good in detecting FRAUD the most reason why the majority of atheist are outcrop of Christianity.

Will follow your rules from No. 1-7. THE HONEST TRUTH IS THAT, YOUR CHALLENGE ONLY PROVES THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING OR TOO LITTLE ABOUT ISLAM AS BEING A WAY OF LIFE THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL INCLUDING SCIENCE.

Keep your fingers cross. ITS A PIECE OF CAKE.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody:
[quote author=9jacrip post=45687845]No wonder we churn out thousands of graduates yearly but we can't invent or produce shit! We would rather be scholars in religion.

9jacrip what is there to wonder? The first formal teacher collge in Nigeria was St. Andrew's College, Oyo (now converted to University). it was established in 1896 BY THE CHURCH MISSIONARY SOCIETY (CMS) and not by THE COMMUNITY OF SCIENTIST.

The major concern of these missionary agencies was to enable the learners to acquire literacy and numaracy skills for the purpose of EVANGELIZATION and book keeping. Not for the educational system designed by them fbeing followed BLINDLY to be producing SCIENTIST.

This is a fact that should not make you wonder why our university is producing RELIGIOUSITY. Why we have Churhes everywhere and not Factories. Our education the fact being that the purpose is EVANGELISM have only succeeded in conforming a whole lot to STUPIIDITY.

As much as i share your views and understand very well the message which you are trying to drive at. Which is that we should do a proper introspection of our selves and stop being BLIND FOLLOWERS. That we should not throw away the GOOD in our own heritage, while substituting it with FRAUD.

All said though, I hope you 9jacrip have one or two things which you have by yourself invented SCIENTIFICALLY...........using Yoruba Technology tested and accepted by the community of Scientist in use today for the betterment of humanity. It wont be fair if you have a PLANK in your own eyes while all you can see is the SPECK in others.

Laughs and Giggles!

Honestly, you have Valid points. Africans have mostly lost their roots . BUT THE TRUTH IS ALL THAT MATTERS. And the TRUTH is that we are so cling to Hypcrisy. I was expecting your moniker to carry such as ODUDUWA and not 9jacrip............i believe that by the time you lead the way in becoming original, OTHERS will follow.

The fact remains that it still boils down to the kind of education you were given which has not resulted in producing any good for us all.

BLAMING OTHERS WHILE FORGETTING ABOUT OURSELVES.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 7:49pm On May 18, 2016
9jacrip:
It is sad, most can quote history of jews in the bible & history of arab from quran but know little of the history of their own family not to talk of Yoruba as a whole.
In TRUTH its sad, very sad.

Yet it takes more than one's mother tongue or ancestoral customs in other to become like today's CHINA, ARABS, INDIA..............what it takes the most is HONESTY. We have the intellectual capacity despite having followed the footpath of the colonial masters. WHAT WE LACK IS SINCERITY AND A SENSE OF PURPOSE.

The is no TRUTH in most of us. THE ONLY LANGUAGE WE ALL SHOULD ALWAYS SPEAK IS TRUTH. TRUTH IN ALL THAT WE DO.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 8:03pm On May 18, 2016
[quote author=WORDWORLD post=45745674][/quote]Egbon mi,


As I said before, TRUTh is relative. For you, Islam is the TRUTH, for Pragmatists/atheists science is the TRUTh, for Isese ona Orisa is the TRUTH (even though we have Odu Ifa stating the founder of Islam learnt under Orunmila but betrayed Orunmila; a form of validation). For Christians, Jesus is the TRUTH, for Buddhists, Buddha is the TRUTH ati be be lo.

The problem of the world is imposition of the TRUTH. If only we can mind our truth and not be evangelical or use force to make others follow our view.

Either ways, TRUTH is subjective.

As for invention in Isese, na small thing be that. Young boys the age of 10 mix different leaves to invent an oogun for the fun of it.

The beauty of Isese/Yoruba technology is for example, if I speak with an Orisa today, I can give you the list of materials, chants and timing for you to do the same. No one can tell you he's the special 'prophet' & for you to walk by faith; if he does anything you have a right to query him and he's blund to give you every detail of how he did it.

I can cite a hundred examples of Yoruba sciences & even give you a sample we can subject to scientific rule of falsification test. You will do it on your own - mix all the herbs (if you know them or can get a trustworthy leku-leja to supply you) and you'll come back here to validate its authenticty.

No braggings, it is just how Yoruba sciences roll.

I'm glad you understood my points; blessings of Allah upon you.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody:
9jacrip:
Egbon mi,


As I said before, TRUTh is relative. For you, Islam is the TRUTH, for Pragmatists/atheists science is the TRUTh, for Isese ona Orisa is the TRUTH (even though we have Odu Ifa stating the founder of Islam learnt under Orunmila but betrayed Orunmila; a form of validation). For Christians, Jesus is the TRUTH, for Buddhists, Buddha is the TRUTH ati be be lo.

The problem of the world is imposition of the TRUTH. If only we can mind our truth and not be evangelical or use force to make others follow our view.

Either ways, TRUTH is subjective.

As for invention in Isese, na small thing be that. Young boys the age of 10 mix different leaves to invent an oogun for the fun of it.

The beauty of Isese/Yoruba technology is for example, if I speak with an Orisa today, I can give you the list of materials, chants and timing for you to do the same. No one can tell you he's the special 'prophet' & for you to walk by faith; if he does anything you have a right to query him and he's blund to give you every detail of how he did it.

I can cite a hundred examples of Yoruba sciences & even give you a sample we can subject to scientific rule of falsification test. You will do it on your own - mix all the herbs (if you know them or can get a trustworthy leku-leja to supply you) and you'll come back here to validate its authenticty.

No braggings, it is just how Yoruba sciences roll.

I'm glad you understood my points; blessings of Allah upon you.
Truth is not the same thing as BELIEF, Jesus, Budha, Muhammed........e.t.c are all belief until proven to be TRUE. Will make it so clear to you as we cant dispute the TRUISM that when water pour down from the sky embended by the clouds with thunder bolts no matter any kind of relativity as ascribed to 'TRUTH', it is RAIN not SPRING.

Spring gushes out from the earth and not the clouds. THAT IS A TRUISM AND NEVER RELATIVE.

I method for my PROOF is going to SURPRISE YOU. I hope that we all learn via it. A method we can all apply. Its self deception to hide behind HOLY SPRIT or other ABSTRACTS when we are cofronted with LOGIC. THAT IS JUST BEING SILLY.

Islam is not know for such WEAK EXCUSES. It states it CLEAR and LOUD with HUMILITY.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f):
Empiree:
grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpvI-3Pcf7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQsbDeWtNk shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkQokLw2mo
I see u have no disagreements with other things I said...also Glad to know u are aware of ur hypocrisy Mr sunny.

By the way u expect me to take these silly videos serious.. Videos posted by pro Islamic propaganda YouTube channels including the London Islamic Da'wa community.. The muslim Da'wa groups who go around calling every non-Muslim a Christian and posting silly videos on YouTube on how they are defeating "Christians" in arguments.lol. They also constantly edit vidoes clips to favour them.. al taqyiaa masters..
Edited..
By the way years ago I saw the full video of the first video u posted.. Dr laconia won that debate with shabir Ali.. Not only that but after the debate fierce critic of Christianity, student Nabeel Qureshi renounced islam after witnessing how true the points about Christ being God was made by the Christian apologist. ..he is now Dr Nabeel Qureshi.. In fact Dr Nabeel Qureshi debated his former model shabir Ali recently.. Watch and enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWpqqqZn7Kg
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree: 9:11pm On May 18, 2016
parisbookaddict:
I see u have no disagreements with other things I said...also Glad to know u aware of ur hypocrisy..

By the way u expect me to take these silly videos serious.. Videos posted by pro Islamic propaganda YouTube channels including the London Islamic Da'wa community.. The muslim Da'wa groups who go around calling every non-Muslim a Christian and posting silly videos on YouTube on how they are defeating "Christians" in arguments.lol.
Lol...I singled this out bcus it's "RED LIE". I had no time for the rest last night. If I have to respond to them no problem.

Now this excuse you gave here is laughable. Why are you denying the obvious?. We see NL christian folks who are as confused as those fellas in these videos. What more do you want? .
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 9:24pm On May 18, 2016
Empiree:
Lol...I singled this out bcus it's "RED LIE". I had no time for the rest last night. If I have to respond to them no problem.

Now this excuse you gave here is laughable. Why are you denying the obvious?. We see NL christian folks who are as confused as those fellas in these videos. What more do you want? .
Does this verse describ PARIS' laughable excuse.

"EVEN IF WE OPENED OUT TO THEM A GATE FROM HEAVEN AND THEY WERE TO CONTINUE (ALL DAY) ASCENDING THEREIN. THEY WOULD ONLY SAY : our eyes have been intoxicated. nay we have been bewitched by sorcery" Q 15: 14 -15.

So confuse that Annunaki whose name is mentioned in the thread's topic has been so SILENT . because of fear of further contradicting himself .
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 9:25pm On May 18, 2016
WORDWORLD:
Truth is not the same thing as BELIEF, Jesus, Budha, Muhammed........e.t.c are all belief until proven to be TRUE. Will make it so clear to you as we cant dispute the TRUISM that when water pour down from the sky embended by the clouds with thunder bolts no matter any kind of relativity as ascribed to 'TRUTH', it is RAIN not SPRING.

Spring gushes out from the earth and not the clouds. THAT IS A TRUISM AND NEVER RELATIVE.

I method for my PROOF is going to SURPRISE YOU. I hope that we all learn via it. A method we can all apply. Its self deception to hide behind HOLY SPRIT or other ABSTRACTS when we are cofronted with LOGIC. THAT IS JUST BEING SILLY.

Islam is not know for such WEAK EXCUSES. It states it CLEAR and LOUD with HUMILITY.
The emboldened is a proven TRUTH.

I like your posts o baba, I'll be glad if you can do all that is contained in your post.

Somehow, it excites me

I wonder how you intend to separate faith/belief from religion but we'll see.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 9:29pm On May 18, 2016
Empiree:
Lol...I singled this out bcus it's "RED LIE". I had no time for the rest last night. If I have to respond to them no problem.

Now this excuse you gave here is laughable. Why are you denying the obvious?. We see NL christian folks who are as confused as those fellas in these videos. What more do you want? .
By the way years ago I saw the full video of the first video u posted.. Dr laconia won that debate with shabir Ali.. Not only that but after the debate fierce critic of Christianity, student Nabeel Qureshi renounced islam after witnessing how true the points about Christ being God was made by the Christian apologist. ..he is now Dr Nabeel Qureshi.. In fact Dr Nabeel Qureshi debated his former model shabir Ali recently.. Watch and enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWpqqqZn7Kg
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody:
9jacrip:
The emboldened is a proven TRUTH.

I like your posts o baba, I'll be glad if you can do all that is contained in your post.

Somehow, it excites me

I wonder how you intend to separate faith/belief from religion but we'll see.
Honestly i like your line of thinking too. FINALLY ON THE LEVEL OF TRYING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER. Thanks have learnt alot from you. HONESTLY!!!
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 9:33pm On May 18, 2016
WORDWORLD:
Honestly i like your line of thinking too. FINALLY ON THE LEVEL OF TRYING TO REALLY UNDERSTANDING ONE ANOTHER. Thanks have learnt alot from you. HONESTLY.
You're the best Muslim I've talked to - you have a lot of patience and try to understand.

God shall continue to increase your wisdom.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree: 9:38pm On May 18, 2016
WORDWORLD:
Does this verse describ PARIS' laughable excuse.

"EVEN IF WE OPENED OUT TO THEM A GATE FROM HEAVEN AND THEY WERE TO CONTINUE (ALL DAY) ASCENDING THEREIN. THEY WOULD ONLY SAY : our eyes have been intoxicated. nay we have been bewitched by sorcery" Q 15: 14 -15.

So confuse that Annunaki whose name is mentioned in the thread's topic has been so SILENT . because of fear of further contradicting himself .
You are endowed with sense of humor. You can speak or respond to christians with verses of Qur'an that match their reasoning without saying a word cheesy
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 9:38pm On May 18, 2016
9jacrip:
You're the best Muslim I've talked to - you have a lot of patience and try to understand.

God shall continue to increase your wisdom.
WISHING YOU THE SAME TOO.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody: 9:45pm On May 18, 2016
Empiree:
You are endowed with sense of humor. You can speak or respond to christians with verses of Qur'an that match their reasoning without saying a word cheesy
The Quran is so UNIQUE. It always takes a rebutal by itself to all arguements. ITS NO STORY STORY.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 9:46pm On May 18, 2016
Empiree:
Lol...I singled this out bcus it's "RED LIE". .
Its a pity that up until now u don't know the criteria for being a Christian..

That u claim to be a Muslim does not make u a Muslim...
I have a Muslim uncle that drinks, has Christian kids, does not adhere to silly islam doctrines but claims to be a Muslim but he could be killed in several Islamic countries..

To be a Christian u must be baptised and accept Christ as ur Lord and savior.. If u reject his divinity how then are u a Christian... Many Mormons and jehova witnesses don't read the Bible... If they do they will leave those churches..


1John 2:22 King James Bible

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Nobody:
parisbookaddict:
Its a pity that up until now u don't know the criteria for being a Christian..

That u claim to be a Muslim does not make u a Muslim...
I have a Muslim uncle that drinks, has Christian kids, does not adhere to silly islam doctrines but claims to be a Muslim but he could be killed in several Islamic countries..

To be a Christian u must be baptised and accept Christ as ur Lord and savior.. If u reject his divinity how then are u a Christian... Many Mormons and jehova witnesses don't read the Bible... If they do they will leave those churches..


1John 2:22 King James Bible

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Because he drinks, bla bla bla does NOT throw him out of the faith unless he renounces it. Despite a DRUNKARD perhaps, HE DEFINATELY KNOWS WHAT FRAUD IS ALL ABOUT. THE REASON WHY HE STICKS TO BEING MUSLIM THAN BECOMING A CHRISTIAN. He is only being disobedient to the creed. Allah is most forgiven merciful. Nobody despair of Allah's Mercy unless a Non-Muslim. EVEN WHILE BEING DISOBEDIENT HE STILL HOPES FOR ALLAH'S MERCY BY REMAINING MUSLIM.

Very TRUE anyone that does not believe Jesus is the Christ is a Liar. Muslims believe that Jesus is Christ. Hence Muslims are not Liars.

"Say: O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK! COME TO COMMON TERMS BETWEEN US AND YOU: THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD; THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM; THAT WE ERRECT NOT FROM AMONG OURSELVES LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD. IF THEY TURN BACK SAY : BEAR WITNESS THAT WE ARE MUSLIMS." Q3:64

Also It does not say anywhere that a Muslim should be killed if he drinks. WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LOVE TALKING ABOUT KILL, KILL, KILL AT ALL TIME?
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree:
parisbookaddict:
Its a pity that up until now u don't know the criteria for being a Christian..
You owe it to yourself to tell us. What we see is confused doctrines.



I have a Muslim uncle that drinks, has Christian kids, does not adhere to silly islam doctrines but claims to be a Muslim
Madam, it is not complicated at all. For someone to be recognized as a muslim in the sight of God and fellow muslims is to attest and believe:

*** There is no deities worthy of worship except Allah

*** Muhammed is God's prophet and messanger

Offer 5 daily prayers, pay zakat, Ramadan, perform Hajj, believe in Destiny.

The first two lines are a MUST. The rest are also a MUST for muslim to believe even if he or lacks or lazy in them. Anyone who DENIES these, is NOT muslim. Denying is different from non-practicing.

Now, does your "uncle" denies everything I mentioned above or he's just a lazy dude?.

Lie again cheesy

He drinks, he's that, he has christian kids etc. All that are not criteria.


To be a Christian u must be baptised and accept Christ as ur Lord and savior.. If u reject his divinity how then are u a Christian...
For clarification purposes, highlighted part, what does that mean?

Divinity, what does it mean?. You may never know where I'm driving at if you try to be smart.


Many Mormons and jehova witnesses don't read the Bible... If they do they will leave those churches..


1John 2:22 King James Bible

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
That's your cup of couscous grin
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree: 10:44pm On May 18, 2016
WORDWORLD:
The Quran is so UNIQUE. It always takes a rebutal by itself to all arguements. ITS NO STORY STORY.

Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Demmzy15(m): 10:54pm On May 18, 2016
Empiree:
You are endowed with sense of humor. You can speak or respond to christians with verses of Qur'an that match their reasoning without saying a word cheesy
Wallahi it's really amazing, the Surah he quoted perfectly fits the like of Parisbookaddict and Co!
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Demmzy15(m): 11:00pm On May 18, 2016
¬Parisbookaddict, Insha'Allah I'll expose your lies about Shabir Ally and Nabeel Qureshi(ex-ahmadiyyah) soon! Don't think I don't know about them!
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by macof(m): 1:09am On May 19, 2016
WORDWORLD:
Will follow your rules from No. 1-7. THE HONEST TRUTH IS THAT, YOUR CHALLENGE ONLY PROVES THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING OR TOO LITTLE ABOUT ISLAM AS BEING A WAY OF LIFE THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL INCLUDING SCIENCE

Keep your fingers cross. ITS A PIECE OF CAKE.
this is no special claim as even Christians say same about Christianity and the bible.
the issue now is how we prove this claim to be true
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 3:18pm On May 19, 2016
Demmzy15:
¬Parisbookaddict, Insha'Allah I'll expose your lies about Shabir Ally and Nabeel Qureshi(ex-ahmadiyyah) soon! Don't think I don't know about them!
if u listen to apologist debates between Christians and Muslims then u should know about them.
so, what lies? lol..

fortunately mr muslim, my religion does NOT permit me to use al taqiyya to win converts.

Nabeel qureshi was trying to convert dr david wood to islam, fortunately dr wood knew islam to be full of lies and didnt fall for it, he even invited dr nabeel (then a student) to that debate between dr mike laconia and shabir ali.... after the debate he was convinced islam was full of lies and he renounced it (smart man).

watch his popular testimony video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3lHueRXvh0

he is doing great works for Jesus. Ex-muslims make very powerful evangelists.
u should buy one of his books; Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus: A Devout Muslim Encounters Christianity ,
Answering Jihad: A Better Way Forward ,
and No God But One—Allah or Jesus.

he now lectures in top universities around the world, and debates al taqiyya using muslims like shabir ali
see more : http://rzim.org/bio/nabeel-qureshi


mr muslim, i dont lie.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 3:35pm On May 19, 2016
Empiree:
You owe it to yourself to tell us. What we see is confused doctrines.



Madam, it is not complicated at all. For someone to be recognized as a muslim in the sight of God and fellow muslims is to attest and believe:

*** There is no deities worthy of worship except Allah

*** Muhammed is God's prophet and messanger

Offer 5 daily prayers, pay zakat, Ramadan, perform Hajj, believe in Destiny.

The first two lines are a MUST. The rest are also a MUST for muslim to believe even if he or lacks or lazy in them. Anyone who DENIES these, is NOT muslim. Denying is different from non-practicing.

Now, does your "uncle" denies everything I mentioned above or he's just a lazy dude?.

Lie again cheesy

He drinks, he's that, he has christian kids etc. All that are not criteria.


For clarification purposes, highlighted part, what does that mean?

Divinity, what does it mean?. You may never know where I'm driving at if you try to be smart.


That's your cup of couscous grin
mr musilm do u now see your hypocrisy now?

apparently u missed the point i made by using that analogy but u ended up backing my main point.

u said and i quote,
"For someone to be recognized as a muslim in the sight of God and fellow muslims is to attest and believe:

*** There is no deities worthy of worship except Allah

*** Muhammed is God's prophet and messanger"

well, u see how u back me up, how can u call mormons and jehova withness Christians when they deny the divinity of Christ. this is one of the pillars of being a christian. they reject his salvation and believe their works will atone them. this is why you see jehova withness every saturday walking around.

Scientologists have a massive cross on top of their church headquarters but they dont have any thing to do with Christianity. The Church of Scientology was formed by a science friction writer and associate of the occult who defrauded thousands till his death.. does that make him a christian..

can u call me a muslimhuh never.

i reject Islamic allah and his fraud mohammed... u are too blinded by your own nonsense to even understand what being a christian is.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by Empiree: 3:47pm On May 19, 2016
parisbookaddict:
mr musilm do u now see your hypocrisy now?

apparently u missed the point i made by using that analogy but u ended up backing my main point.

u said and i quote,
"For someone to be recognized as a muslim in the sight of God and fellow muslims is to attest and believe:

*** There is no deities worthy of worship except Allah

*** Muhammed is God's prophet and messanger"

well, u see how u back me up, how can u call mormons and jehova withness Christians when they deny the divinity of Christ. this is one of the pillars of being a christian. they reject his salvation and believe their works will atone them. this is why you see jehova withness every saturday walking around.

Scientologists have a massive cross on top of their church headquarters but they dont have any thing to do with Christianity. The Church of Scientology was formed by a science friction writer and associate of the occult who defrauded thousands till his death.. does that make him a christian..

can u call me a muslimhuh never.

i reject Islamic allah and his fraud mohammed... u are too blinded by your own nonsense to even understand what being a christian is.
Your "analogy" is unfounded. Mormons and jehova withness are SECTS in christianity but your "UNCLE" is individual man. What I am saying to you is that allegations you brought against your "UNCLE" have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with criteria that determines if one is Muslim or not.

If your "UNCLE" drinks, parties, have "CHRISTIAN CHILDREN" etc are not the FUNDAMENTALS of Islam. Matter of fact, his "christian children" are Muslims because they are innocent. In Islamic doctrine, they on 'fitra'. Besides, your "UNCLE" is the born of contention here not his kids.


Mormons and jehova withness however have different DOCTRINES but your "UNCLE" isn't. Can you spot the differences?. Your analogy is spurious.
Re: Rilwayne 001 I Say You Better BELIEVE The Ways Of Annunaki And His Followers. by parisbookaddict(f): 4:03pm On May 19, 2016
WORDWORLD:
Because he drinks, bla bla bla does NOT throw him out of the faith unless he renounces it. Despite a DRUNKARD perhaps, HE DEFINATELY KNOWS WHAT FRAUD IS ALL ABOUT.
dont be silly Mr muslim, he is not a drunkard. i actually like the guy. i have a feeling he is one of the many atheist muslims who pretend to be muslim so as not to offend parents/family members and be cut-off.

THE REASON WHY HE STICKS TO BEING MUSLIM THAN BECOMING A CHRISTIAN. He is only being disobedient to the creed. Allah is most forgiven merciful. Nobody despair of Allah's Mercy unless a Non-Muslim. EVEN WHILE BEING DISOBEDIENT HE STILL HOPES FOR ALLAH'S MERCY BY REMAINING MUSLIM.
i dont know about all that, but i am just happy he doesnt bring that toxic islamic behavior / worldview when he visits or i visit.


Very TRUE anyone that does not believe Jesus is the Christ is a Liar. Muslims believe that Jesus is Christ. Hence Muslims are not Liars.
yes, also very true that muslims DO NOT deny that Jesus is the Christ, but u DO deny the relationship between the father and the son, the divinity of Christ.
There are 2 criteria and u conveniently left out the second one like most denying muslims do..

1John 2:22 King James Bible

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You mr muslim, are an anti-Christ like the millions of denying muslims.

"Say: O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK! COME TO COMMON TERMS BETWEEN US AND YOU: THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD; THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM; THAT WE ERRECT NOT FROM AMONG OURSELVES LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD. IF THEY TURN BACK SAY : BEAR WITNESS THAT WE ARE MUSLIMS." Q3:64

Also It does not say anywhere that a Muslim should be killed if he drinks. WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LOVE TALKING ABOUT KILL, KILL, KILL AT ALL TIME?
well u muslims kill alot,

saudi arabia started this year by kill over 40 people in one day including a very intellectual shia leader.
The sunni dominated nigerian military killed over 300 shite muslims..
This past week hundreds of muslims killed themselves in bomb attacks in yemen, afgan, nigeria, syria and iraq alone, dont forget the lonewolf muslim attack that killed a german in germany and injured many more.
Your taliban, al nusra, ISIS brothers have no problems killing people for minor offenses, taking sharia and islam to its final logic conclusion.

.. by the way in saudi arabia women are flogged for checking their husbands phone without his permission, the epitome of Islamic misogyny and adulterers are stoned to death is barbaric Islamic sharia countries.

islam is synonymous with death and you knw that.

quran 2.216. Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is disliked by you. It may well be that you dislike a thing but it is good for you,
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