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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 11:17am On May 19, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
i'm still trying to figure the correlation between if i'm having sex and what's on ground? Seriously? And you are sure i've had sex in the past? I'm still trying to understand the need for your reference? Oh, you think i'm one of the timid girls that get embarrassed with anything sex? undecided... "she MUST have said..." ? I give up on you. Thank God you don't work with the police. This would have been a man against woman case forgetting that Ronke too have a father and male relatives that demand for justice.

Well, if you're a virgin, it's always better not to discuss sex or how people feel about sex. I was just educating you on what triggers a man to feel he isn't satisfying a woman sexually.

I can't work with the police - I hate the feds. Heck, I don't talk to the police, and it's "no comment" till the death of me, when it comes to po po. grin However, in utopia, if I were to work with the feds, no innocent man and/or woman would ever get convicted. I love humanity too much to let emotions becloud logical judgement and to punish folks for crimes they didn't commit.

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by ULSHERLAN(m): 11:23am On May 19, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
toh

Lol

Lets be realistic
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by MsGlobalwonder(f): 11:27am On May 19, 2016
Shym3xx:


Well, if you're a virgin, it's always better not to discuss sex or how people feel about sex. I was just educating you on what triggers a man to feel he isn't satisfying a woman sexually.

I can't work with the police - I hate the feds. Heck, I don't talk to the police, and it's "no comment" till the death of me, when it comes to po po. grin However, in utopia, if I were to work with the feds, no innocent man and/or woman would ever get convicted. I love humanity too much to let emotions becloud logical judgement and to punish folks for crimes they didn't commit.
and u conveniently ignored that I said it was the age difference between them that led to such insecurity? So, what's my sex-life got to do with it? Smh! Let's watch as it unfolds. Life is for the living anyways..
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Amhappy(f): 11:30am On May 19, 2016
A life was lost here and all i can say is let justice be served.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 11:38am On May 19, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
and u conveniently ignored that I said it was the age difference between them that led to such insecurity? So, what's my sex-life got to do with it? Smh! Let's watch as it unfolds. Life is for the living anyways..

I ignored it cos it's inconsequential and age difference has no bearing on sexual performance. There are loads of teens (late teens) and guys in their twenties (the peak of physical strengths when guys have extremely high testosterone levels) who can't perform like old men in their 50s, 60s, and 70s. It depends on how you look after ya body, what you eat, and genetics.

So my argument stands and for a man to think he isn't satisfying a woman sexually - the feeling always come from the woman. Men are naturally egotistical.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by HaneefahRN(f): 11:40am On May 19, 2016
damogul:



My submission is simple and direct. I deduce that she probably unknowingly carried out water poisoning which is rare but it does happen. It is when someone drinks an unusually large amount of water over a very short period immediately after a very strenuous exercise. If true that she engaged in a weekend of marathon sex then she most probably killed herself via water poisoning.

What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications
damogul:

Indeed you are a wonder! The autopsy report is in plain English. If she had head injuries they would have caused internal bleeding in her head and not water retention. This is why the pathologist said the head injuries was not the cause of death. Water in her head came from another source and not from her injuries. Its as simple as ABC. I have already stated what causes water retention in the head. Its different from drowning. She was not drowned otherwise the report would also say so. But it clearly said " water in her head" . Water retention is not the same thing as bleeding in her head.
damogul:



My submission is simple and direct. I deduce that she probably unknowingly carried out water poisoning which is rare but it does happen. It is when someone drinks an unusually large amount of water over a very short period immediately after a very strenuous exercise. If true that she engaged in a weekend of marathon sex then she most probably killed herself via water poisoning.

What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications .


Let me break it down for you cos you are sounding very ridiculous with your obvious hypocrisy. I will do your daughters a favour of not wishing them this kind of situation where they will judged and slut- shamed by people who have no knowledge of what really happened and even blamed for their deaths. And this isn't about being emotional but being reasonable and not hypocritical


If you had read the write-up with an open mind. You would see the facts laid out.

What I could deduce from the write up was.

She died as a result of respiratory seizure. I want to believe what they meant by 'water in the head' is cerebral oedema which can be caused by trauma.


So its, head injuries which lead to cerebral oedema (water in the head) which lead to respiratory seizure and finally her death.



It is that simple. Her death could very much have been as a result of domestic violence.

Let the police and all involved continue their investigations.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by fpeter(f): 11:42am On May 19, 2016
Nelkoko:
All dis mumu nairaland girls n woman wrappers 4 nairaland don insult n conclude say him kill him wife..... Una don see d result?



However, sources said further medical checks finally attributed the cause of her death to “respiratory seizure as a result of water in the head and some injuries also in the head.”


Read well please....
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by mukhcech(m): 11:45am On May 19, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
so, if my inference is correct; you are saying because the woman won't stop talking and being confrontational; it turns the man to a Beast, thereby unleashing his beastly nature on the woman. Let me ask too. If it was Flowd Mayweather the boxer that was talking and being confrontational, will the man beat him up? I'm sure the answer is NO. Why? Because he knows that the worst of his beast can't hurt Mayweather's pinky finger. But he will go ahead to pummel the woman because he seem to be able to over power her.

Being irrational wont win u a debate or an argument. The best it does is that it ends the discussion. Buh not yet let me take u on ur thought. If mayweather was unnecessary confrontation and irration like some women are, em sure he would have been knocked out so many times. Men will be men. Its a shame women shy away from the truth. U failed to address the point I raised which is some women wants to be hit by her husband while some wants to fight(exchange blows) her husband. The former is manageable buh the latter are the most devilish of women.

Using ur Logic which I think and u know is flawed: The same way u think everyman should not engage Mayweather in a bout even though if he becomes confrontational is the same way a woman should never engage a man esp her husband in a fight. Most often than not she will be battered like mayweather will batter anyman that challenges him.


N:B the story I shared ealiar was about my both parents and this will be the 3rd yr of my Marriage. I sure know the stuff em talking bout which u seem not to have clue. Em 25 now and I know Dad has never hit mum since I was born. All em saying is not all men can do that. We are different.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 12:00pm On May 19, 2016
Lmao @ folks spamming cerebral-oedema/brain-swelling everywhere when the autopsy didn't allude to it and it clearly stated that the respiratory seizure was triggered by water in the head - and ruled out the possibility of her death due to violent marks on her face.

Is that too difficult to read and understand? Heck, even with cerebral oedema there would be internal bleeding, but that isn't the case here. I give up on Nigerians. grin

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by mukhcech(m): 12:00pm On May 19, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
comprehension.. comprehension!!!!! Did I say the woman said he can't satisfy her? The man is Insecure!! He monitors her everywhere. He is paranoid too, he accuses her of things she didn't do. Not everything is on NL. The Chat he had with the person that pleaded with Ronke last to return to him before he killed her is everywhere. How was I supporting adultery? Is death the solution of adultery? Which adultery are we even talking about? She committed adultery and he was still desperately and frantically begging her to come back to his house? You have chosen to believe she was cheating and truly you have a right to your choice. But please, be sure you are saying the truth against the dead especially when evidences of the reverse is commonplace. Cheers.

You are just implicating yourself upandan. In a sane world, with the bolded, you will be called in as a witness to the Murder. Stop saying what u dont know. Leave judgement to God esp on this case.

Now I know why they say most of u women on this thread here are just being irrationally emotional,
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by freshcvvs: 12:00pm On May 19, 2016
adorablepepple:

excuse me? How did she get a head injury? by hitting herself I guess Abi you didn't see that in the report,pls be smart and think before typing your comment.

So how did water get into her head, Abi she drowned herself ni? Be rational in your thinking Biko. And this report doesn't exonerate him.

nonjebose:
And you think the report exonerates him. At this point, the Police will investigate the cause of the ' water in the head and respiratory seizure'.

angels09:
Respiratory seizure caused by what? Strangulation? Suffocation? Give us something definite or keep quiet quacks!

pucelle:


What caused the water and injuries in the head?


they should hold that man very well.


Ladies listen and listen good, before Autopsy report becomes your portion, RUN from an abusive marriage

Water could have gotten into her head via various means

(1) Swimming
(2) Drinking of water
(3) Bathing/Showering.

Very possible any of these must have occurred.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damogul: 12:16pm On May 19, 2016
HaneefahRN:


What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications

What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications .


Let me break it down for you cos you are sounding very ridiculous with your obvious hypocrisy. I will do your daughters a favour of not wishing them this kind of situation where they will judged and slut- shamed by people who have no knowledge of what really happened and even blamed for their deaths. And this isn't about being emotional but being reasonable and not hypocritical


If you had read the write-up with an open mind. You would see the facts laid out.

What I could deduce from the write up was.

She died as a result of respiratory seizure. I want to believe what they meant by 'water in the head' is cerebral oedema which can be caused by trauma.


So its, head injuries which lead to cerebral oedema (water in the head) which lead to respiratory seizure and finally her death.



It is that simple. Her death could very much have been as a result of domestic violence.

Let the police and all involved continue their investigations.


My dear I am sure u do not know more than the pathologist does. It is clearly stated WATER IN THE HEAD. Not not any fluid but WATER. cerebral oedema is general but specicically her pathologist stated dilutional hyponatremia as cause of her death. Perhaps you need to look that up before you tag me a fraud or a hypocrite.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Phi001(m): 12:19pm On May 19, 2016
Surely if she had respiratory seizure from strangulation, the autopsy report would have shown evidence of strangulation.....it's pretty stupid to support the woman just because you're female or because she's dead!
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 12:26pm On May 19, 2016
mukhcech:


You are just implicating yourself upandan. In a sane world, with the bolded, you will be called in as a witness to the Murder. Stop saying what u dont know. Leave judgement to God esp on this case.

Now I know why they say most of u women on this thread here are just being irrationally emotional,

I think it has do with the fact that a lot of them (both the married and young ones) are utter promiscuous and they feel guilty cos it could've been them, hence they're emotional. I only pity the men who're married to such women and the unfortunate guys who'll end up with the young ones. Then the story Biggie was talking about in "I got a story to tell" would become the order of the day, with all kinds of men fvcking ya wife on ya matrimony bed with body fluid on the sheet. And these women won't even change the sheets - you'll end up coming back after a long day at work to sleep the next man's body fluid. Crazy. grin

The fundamental problem with most of these chics today is that they don't think things through before getting involved with a guy either in relationships or marriages, they just jump into a wrong space based on pressure and their head. You've got chics that're naturally nymphos...rather than get hitched with guys that're also nymphos, they'll go for the rich guys, then end up cheating on them. And you have the ones whose lives revolve around money and a lifestyle that will end up choosing highly educated guys with inadequate means to give them the lifestyle they desire, then they end up fvcking rich guys everywhere for a lifestyle. Etc.

Like my boy was saying yesterday, to save yourself, you just need to look at women as a means to achieve the ultimate prize in life - making babies. Just make babies with one or two that you think can be great mums and be cordial with so you can raised ya kids together the right way. After that, leave them to do whatever makes them happy without getting hitched to them. That's the best formula.

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Nobody: 12:28pm On May 19, 2016
I love how people re-state all the "facts" and then act like they personally have additional information that the Chief Medical Officers of a University Teaching Hospital are hiding. Like most of you are so much personally more intelligent and have more facts than are being released as investigation proceeds.

But no, most of you are commenting like"I think this happened", "I FEEL". "The man is a murderer". "The man is not a murderer". Well hopefully, part of the investigation is reading the NL comments on every article. Heck, maybe they should just stop all investigations because everyone at their screens seems to know so much
more!!!!

What everyone is doing is making themselves feel more intelligent (you are not experts in any of these, although few of you may be but those nuggets are like looking for gold). I mean, some of you watch CSI and come off as seasoned pathologists. Bwahahahaha.

Some of you need to learn how to objectively criticise dialectic reasoning.

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by CopyLearner: 12:29pm On May 19, 2016
Nelkoko:
All dis mumu nairaland girls n woman wrappers 4 nairaland don insult n conclude say him kill him wife..... Una don see d result?
biko how did she injure her head on her own? This report further implicates him because he pushed her, remember?
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by CopyLearner: 12:33pm On May 19, 2016
dragonking2:
Where are those illiterate feminists and women ass lickers that were judging this man before the autopsy? They should bury their head in shame.
you should be ashamed of yourself for been blind to the fact that this autopsy further implicates Mr Lekan.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by CopyLearner: 12:35pm On May 19, 2016
misreal:
its funny how people believe that he killed her,but refuse to believe the medical report now.
chai, I read your comment and felt a moment of pity for you because you didn't understand that the autopsy has actually implicated him
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damien2: 12:35pm On May 19, 2016
I felt stupid after reading this. I tire for our pathologists and news outlets.

I still have questions:

What caused the water in the head?

How did it causes respiratory seizure?
Is it possible to have water in the head and still be alive?

If yes, does it need a trigger to cause harm?



And so on and so forth

Nigerian journalists better start asking good questions.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by CopyLearner: 12:36pm On May 19, 2016
mukhcech:


Many people dont know that some womenn can turn a seeminly gentle man to a beast. Women know this fact.
and vice versa
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Beamer01(m): 12:37pm On May 19, 2016
Why do some people want this man's head on a pole, what if they end up killing an innocent man?
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by stevecantrell: 12:38pm On May 19, 2016
nonjebose:
And you think the report exonerates him. At this point, the Police will investigate the cause of the ' water in the head and respiratory seizure'.

The report does NOT exonerate him. Please lets ignore the amateur journalism. The reporter rephrased the cause of death to make the pathologist sound like an idiot...The correct term shouldve been CEREBRAL OEDEMA FOLLOWING HEAD TRAUMA which eventually led to RESPIRATORY FAILURE

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damogul: 12:39pm On May 19, 2016
The Pathologist in clear terms stated dilutional hyponatremia as cause of death and dilutional hyponatremia is simply put WATER IN THE HEAD OR AROUND THE BRAIN.

After some engages in a vigorous exercise e.g marathon sex and sweats a lot the sodium levels in our body becomes low and we react by quickly taking massive amounts of water Into our system without knowing that When sodium levels in the blood become very low, water enters the brain cells and causes them to swell. This results in increased pressure in the skull and causes hyponatremic encephalopathy. As pressure increases in the skull, herniation of the brain can occur, which is a squeezing of the brain across the internal structures of the skull. This can lead to headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, seizures, brain stem compression and respiratory arrest.

I believe the pathologist mentioned respiratory failure as part of his findings. That pathologist is top notch and deserves an award because he is spot on.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damien2: 12:40pm On May 19, 2016
The question should be how she sustained the head injuries? With the history of abuse, the man might find himself in jail regardless of what happened



HaneefahRN:


What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications

What is cerebral oedema? Causes and complications .


Let me break it down for you cos you are sounding very ridiculous with your obvious hypocrisy. I will do your daughters a favour of not wishing them this kind of situation where they will judged and slut- shamed by people who have no knowledge of what really happened and even blamed for their deaths. And this isn't about being emotional but being reasonable and not hypocritical


If you had read the write-up with an open mind. You would see the facts laid out.

What I could deduce from the write up was.

She died as a result of respiratory seizure. I want to believe what they meant by 'water in the head' is cerebral oedema which can be caused by trauma.


So its, head injuries which lead to cerebral oedema (water in the head) which lead to respiratory seizure and finally her death.



It is that simple. Her death could very much have been as a result of domestic violence.

Let the police and all involved continue their investigations.

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by CopyLearner: 12:42pm On May 19, 2016
Laredojohn:
Many are quick to quick to crucify the husband, the alleged man friend should also be questioned and interrogated to establish the fact he also dated the lady,because he h somewhat contributed to the death, the husband being violent isn't the best option he could have opted to divorce, than beating the wife, will never support a man being violent, ladies too should try not provoke their husbands to anger. Let's see where this will end
how did the lover contribute to her death? The husband is a violent man. They said they didn't attribute her death to violent marks on her body. She must have received other beatings prior to the day of death. But this autopsy does attribute her death to head injury. Remember he pushed her aside and went to bed. She go don knack her head, causing the leakage in her head.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damien2: 12:43pm On May 19, 2016
Many people don't know that some men can turn a seemingly gentle woman to a monster. Men know this for a fact. A recent example is the female lawyer accused of murder in Ibadan.



mukhcech:


Many people dont know that some womenn can turn a seeminly gentle man to a beast. Women know this fact.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Phi001(m): 12:43pm On May 19, 2016
boostdom:
I love how people re-state all the "facts" and then act like they personally have additional information that the Chief Medical Officers of a University Teaching Hospital are hiding. Like most of you are so much personally more intelligent and have more facts than are being released as investigation proceeds.

But no, most of you are commenting like"I think this happened", "I FEEL". "The man is a murderer". "The man is not a murderer". Well hopefully, part of the investigation is reading the NL comments on every article. Heck, maybe they should just stop all investigations because everyone at their screens seems to know so much
more!!!!

What everyone is doing is making themselves feel more intelligent (you are not experts in any of these, although few of you may be but those nuggets are like looking for gold). I mean, some of you watch CSI and come off as seasoned pathologists. Bwahahahaha.

Some of you need to learn how to objectively criticise dialectic reasoning.
Preach brother, preach!

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Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 12:45pm On May 19, 2016
damogul:
The Pathologist in clear terms stated dilutional hyponatremia as cause of death and dilutional hyponatremia is simply put WATER IN THE HEAD OR AROUND THE BRAIN.

After some engages in a vigorous exercise e.g marathon sex and sweats a lot the sodium levels in our body becomes low and we react by quickly taking massive amounts of water Into our system without knowing that When sodium levels in the blood become very low, water enters the brain cells and causes them to swell. This results in increased pressure in the skull and causes hyponatremic encephalopathy. As pressure increases in the skull, herniation of the brain can occur, which is a squeezing of the brain across the internal structures of the skull. This can lead to headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, seizures, brain stem compression and respiratory arrest.

I believe the pathologist mentioned respiratory failure as part of his findings. That pathologist is top notch and deserves an award because he is spot on.

Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damogul: 12:47pm On May 19, 2016
CopyLearner:
how did the lover contribute to her death? The husband is a violent man. They said they didn't attribute her death to violent marks on her body. She must have received other beatings prior to the day of death. But this autopsy does attribute her death to head injury. Remember he pushed her aside and went to bed. She go don knack her head, causing the leakage in her head.



HER DEATH WAS NEVER CAUSED BY ANY FORM OF HEAD INJURY BUT BY WATER IN HER HEAD WHICH IS MEDICALLY KNOWN AS DILUTIONAL HYPONATREMIA. THAT ALONE LEADS TO RESPIRATORY FAILURE OR SEIZURE AS RIGHTLY DECLARED BY THE PATHOLOGIST.

LIKE I SAID, SHE KILLED HERSELF UNKNOWINGLY.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damien2: 12:48pm On May 19, 2016
History of abuse does not mean he did it.
CopyLearner:
how did the lover contribute to her death? The husband is a violent man. They said they didn't attribute her death to violent marks on her body. She must have received other beatings prior to the day of death. But this autopsy does attribute her death to head injury. Remember he pushed her aside and went to bed. She go don knack her head, causing the leakage in her head.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by Shym3xx: 12:52pm On May 19, 2016
stevecantrell:


The report does NOT exonerate him. Please lets ignore the amateur journalism. The reporter rephrased the cause of death to make the pathologist sound like an idiot...The correct term shouldve been CEREBRAL OEDEMA FOLLOWING HEAD TRAUMA which eventually led to RESPIRATORY FAILURE

In as much as the report is inconclusive, how did you come to the conclusion that it's cerebral oedema (brain swelling) when there's no trace internal bleeding and they clearly stated that it has nothing to do with the violent marks on her face i.e head injuries?

Stevecantrell, you can do better than this. Guys don't deal with emotions - guys deal with logic.
Re: Ronke Shonde: Autopsy Attributes Death To Respiratory Seizure by damien2: 1:01pm On May 19, 2016
There is no mention of dilutional hyponatremia in the article.

Regardless, I assume that it would be easy to attribute it to sexual activity if it is indeed dilutional hyponatremia. I don't think it should be hard to find evidences of recent sexual activity. sad

damogul:



My dear I am sure u do not know more than the pathologist does. It is clearly stated WATER IN THE HEAD. Not not any fluid but WATER. cerebral oedema is general but specicically her pathologist stated dilutional hyponatremia as cause of her death. Perhaps you need to look that up before you tag me a fraud or a hypocrite.

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