Rossikk:


Israel would be nothing without the US backing they get, in the form of countless billions of dollars in aid and weapons, including nukes! Israel is just a 51st US state planted in the Middle East.

please educate yourself before you embarass yourself

freeze001:
Nigeria may remain one big country but if the incessant calls and increasingly insistent demands for outright separation are to be muted, then Nigeria must be prepared to re-engineer her system of governance.

For as long as one person in the centre can determine the action or inaction of security agencies as seen in Enugu where they had almost 48hrs notice of impending attacks by Fulani herdsmen but failed to act because they dis not have presidential directive, the more attractive option will be to break away and then ensure full security for ur people.

For as long as the constitution places the exploitation and revenue of resources from one region firmly in the control of the centre for onward distribution to others without d resources of others equally owned by the FG, the feeling of exploitation on the part of the 'minority' and entitlement on that of d 'majority' will continue to breed discontent.

Provided this same centre dictates so much even to education and sets disparate scores for entry into supposed unity schools thereby favouring one region in perpetuity over others, Nigeria cannot work peacefully.

As long as the FG is responsible for key yet basic infrastructure such as seaports such that states n regions cannot establish same without approval of the centre especially when funds are sourced from that same centre, e no follow! Again, provided states n regions don't have to generate funds and be absolutely responsible for their upkeep, the leaders there can never be innovative because of guaranteed monthly bottle feeding. Pata pata na loan for more profligacy! Necessity is the mother of invention, if the necessity of self provision doesn't stare them in the face, no need na...who no like free money?

So long as one region due to religion can destroy the businesses and livelihoods of non adherents to same religion such as alcohol, hotels etc, and no one condemns and criminalises such action because somehow a supposedly secular country upholds superiority of sharia over its constitution, there is a major problem!

In short, for as long as the centre remains powerful enough to deliberately sideline whole regions in the scheme of governance because of party, ethnic and religious concerns, there is no point to Nigeria!

A large sized country stuck in perpetual unrest and dissension by various groups or regions remains a blight to any continent it belongs to! It remains unnecessarily large and unwieldy. Otherwise why are we advocating a leaner civil service? Is it not for more efficiency and better service delivery? Nobody trifles with Israel, small as she may be but with our large size we are comfortably insulted as fantastically corrupt buy we accept it because we're beggarly and not pulling the weight such a large size should ordinarily command.

It is better for self-federating units to stay together under one name with clear and statutory terms of agreement along with identified goals than for the current mess we call a country. Otherwise, the only alternative remains total dissolution! Simple!

Finally, South Sudan is not d only example of separation from a larger whole, nothing stops us from being more successful than the countries formed out of the former USSR!

Freeze u have said it all.

Rossikk:
DSTV recently cancelled the airing of transgender show, I Am Cait, across Africa, owing to the objection of its Nigerian subscribers, in a move that has South Africans fuming, and up in arms over what they consider Nigeria's undue influence over what goes on on the continent.

If the ethnic separatists get their tiny fiefdoms, all that is GONE. You will become a Togo. A Gambia. A Sierra Leone. A Burundi. Insignificant little players. Does anybody ask the Togolese what they think on any issue? NOPE. Their job in Togo is to keep quiet and take orders from the big players on the continent and beyond. When you get your tiny ethnic country, you will grow in insignificance. A visit by the president of Kenya will be as if the US president came. So glad you will be to be noticed by your Kenyan bosses. When they are counting Africa's top economies, your new ethnic republic will be at number 43, if you're lucky. Top militaries? Maybe number 47. If the IMF or the US or France command you to devalue your currency or open up your market for imports etc, you DARE NOT argue with them or they'll crush you.

Nigeria is a task we need to work on, till we succeed. The alternatives are too terrible to contemplate. Smallness is grossly overrated in this country.

So because of DSTV HIV or whatever they call themselves the damnable wild game reserve of nigga animals created by the demonic British should not be destroyed??
SMH

Many Black people are irredeemably daft and hopeless

Princewill1:
This OP need a brain transplant!

Israel is not more than 7million,but she is a military and economic super power in the middle east.

These countries Denmark,Finland,Luxembourg,Switzerland,Hong Kong,Singapore are not more than 7million in population,Please tell us which of the over populated African countries that can challenge them economically or militarily?

Don't talk what u don't know, by the way Nigeria has expired!

You people just talk loud without thinking. We're talking of Africa, this one is mentioning Singapore and Switzerland. So if you become Oduduwa Republic or Niger Delta Republic tomorrow, you will become the new Singapore, correct? Ok, what do you think prevented Sierra Leone, Gambia, Togo, Cameroun, South Sudan etc from becoming the new Singapore? What do you know that those countries don't know? What resources do you have that they don't have? South Sudan has oil. Sierra Leone is a leading global producer of DIAMONDS, yet look at them.

Listen. AFRICA was designated by the western powers over a century ago as a supplier of raw materials to European industry. ALL their policies towards Africa to this day reflect this consensus of theirs. As a small nation, you cannot become a 'Singapore' without the rich world buying your finished goods, much less when they are actively plotting to destabilize you - through for instance, installing compliant dictators, or sponsoring/arming 'rebel' groups against leaders who reject their dictates. They will dictate to you economic policies that will see you remain dependent, so you can continue being a raw materials supplier, as opposed to an industrial giant. And the smaller you are as a nation, the less able you are to override their dictates, without inviting sanctions that will worsen your economy. THEREFORE in the case of AFRICA, BIG is a definite advantage. No question.

I make bold to say that anybody that wants division of Nigeria is either ridiculously ignorant or in the same line of thought with esau that sold his birth right for food instead of thinking about posterity. If you think that by breaking away, you will be better off, look at how your own leaders are treating you and judge. I see Biafra as nothing short of blind greed (oil wealth), the igbos are the most industrious people in Nigeria, commanding Commerce everywhere, yet they want to break away. My advice is start by relocating to the east and use all billions in your accounts to develop the region in preparation, as I hear there are no roads or valuable infrastructure in onitsha despite boasting of numerous billionaires

oduastates:
" Another fundamentalist cesspit no one cares about this issue"

Exactly what was written on an international news website.
If anything, this issue reminds me why my the yorubas have to leave Nigeria.
The Nigerian bad rap sheet keep increasing.
What next are you going to ban or burn.
Books?
I would rather read book, watch news or documentaries than waste my time on reality TV.
But what happened to skipping the channel or locking it instead of exposing your extremism for the world to see.
Philippines has an ISIS problem. Malaysia is getting more fundamentalist by the day. Yet they are hardly in the
news.

That's very true. To be honest a Yorubas country would work very well with many countries including us South Africans. Free visa both ways.

Rossikk:


We need to work for peace, not split up the country. Togo's peace is the peace of the graveyard, caused by a dictatorship that has been in power for donkey years. Eyadema ruled them for 38 years, then died in 2005, and his SON took over, and has been in power for almost 12 years now! That's the sort of nonsense that happens in small countries like the one you wish to become. Easily exploited. Easy to establish dictatorships, including family dictatorships... Little or no economic prospects (By contrast, Nigeria is projected to become the 6th largest economy on earth within the next 15 - 20 years, surpassing the likes of Germany, France and the UK!

You want to forgo all that and slither into insignificance because of the antics of a few illiterates in Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen??

Really??

And there is no guarantee that your new ethnic republic will be 'peaceful' either. Certain groups will still feel 'marginalized'. And it would be easier to start wars. Just ask the warlords of South Sudan, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.

Work for peace? You want to teach northern Muslim ethno-religious tolerance? Would they ever learn? The answer is No. Nigeria is not a country, that's just the truth. Nigeria was built on a wrong foundation.

Rossikk:
Actually, being a big country DOES help to put food on your table, as seen by the issues affecting small, vulnerable states like Sierra Leone and South Sudan. And life is about more than...food.

Can you ask the person you quoted if he's from Ekiti? the land of Stomach Infrastructure.

chukzyblingz:
Work for peace? You want to teach northern Muslim ethno-religious tolerance? Would they ever learn? The answer is No. Nigeria is not a country, that's just the truth. Nigeria was built on a wrong foundation.

We don't need to teach anybody anything. All we need to do is to abolish impunity. Anyone who attacks another is brought to full justice. Nothing else is needed. Just enforce the laws as they stand now, efficiently, and the violence will end tomorrow. That's all we need to work on achieving, and we're there. It's about building strong institutions. It takes time for developing nations to do this. Our greatest mistake would be to give up when we have achieved so much, such as the enthronement of civilian democracy, and lately, transparent elections - unimaginable just 15 years ago - which shows our growing political maturity. So we just need to stick at it. The USA went through vicious civil wars, massive social unrest, economic depressions, world wars, you name it. They could easily have decided to go their separate ways in the heat of those troubles. Instead they stuck at it, and look at them now. No 1 Superpower on the planet.

ckmayoca:


What we need to make this nation work is love. Show love to who ever is hating you and not countering the person with partisan politics. Though everything I see online hasn't come my way in reality oh and people along the street never mention separation.

There can not be love in a slave camp

Especially not one created and sustained by diabolical evil British men

ckmayoca:


What we need to make this nation work is love. Show love to who ever is hating you and not countering the person with partisan politics. Though everything I see online hasn't come my way in reality oh and people along the street never mention separation.

then u really need to take a walk!! Maybe to old eastern region... U will understand better.... If u oppose it Nd u didn't go home with blood... Kw dat Nigeria will survive!!

Rossikk:
It's more complex than that. A huge population provides the STABILITY and ECONOMIC RESILIENCE that ensure that problems do not degenerate to the point where we need food aid, foreign assistance, and have starving children and child soldiers fighting in rebel armies against dictators backed by warlords!!!! If you think Nigeria is bad, go and spend a week in Sierra Leone and see how people live. You couldn't be there more than a day or two to be honest.

Hello! Do we not already depend on food and medical aid as well as foreign aid? Are you sleeping? Must you compare yourself to Sierra Leone? Who says you cannot aspire and actually be like Sweden, Luxembourg and a host of others even with less population?

Rossikk:


We don't need to teach anybody anything. All we need to do is to abolish impunity. Anyone who attacks another is brought to full justice. Nothing else is needed. Just enforce the laws as they stand now, efficiently, and the violence will end tomorrow. That's all we need to work on achieving, and we're there. It's about building strong institutions. It takes time for developing nations to do this. Our greatest mistake would be to give up when we have achieved so much, such as the enthronement of civilian democracy, and lately, transparent elections - unimaginable just 15 years ago - which shows our growing political maturity. So we just need to stick at it. The USA went through vicious civil wars, massive social unrest, economic depressions, world wars, you name it. They could easily have decided to go their separate ways in the heat of those troubles. Instead they stuck at it, and look at them now. No 1 Superpower on the planet.

Before you call the USA go and study their system of federalism! All states are independent and the choice to secede is open to all and perfectly legal once they meet the necessary international conditions for secession and a referendum is conducted. Each state has its own police force while the Federal police is responsible for crimes across state lines. Each state has its own courts up to the supreme court, controls its own resources and is responsible for its geographical space. Texas with all its oil is not forced to relinquish her resources for the benefit of others!! Obama in Washington doesn't have to bother about 'Federal secondary schools' in any state. There is a reason why capital punishment is legal in some states in the US while abolished in others!

That is a proper federation with independent units consciously choosing to stay together and realise the "American Dream" not this slave camp arrangement we have here.Those massive wars and unrest gave birth to the system they have which works today meanwhile despite all the war and deaths in this country, some dolts sit somewhere and say the unity of Nigeria is not negotiable! For what? Do negotiations not lead to balanced and agreeable conditions of existence rather than some fake, forced unity?

KingJhean:
I make bold to say that anybody that wants division of Nigeria is either ridiculously ignorant or in the same line of thought with esau that sold his birth right for food instead of thinking about posterity. If you think that by breaking away, you will be better off, look at how your own leaders are treating you and judge. I see Biafra as nothing short of blind greed (oil wealth), the igbos are the most industrious people in Nigeria, commanding Commerce everywhere, yet they want to break away. My advice is start by relocating to the east and use all billions in your accounts to develop the region in preparation, as I hear there are no roads or valuable infrastructure in onitsha despite boasting of numerous billionaires

anoda shameless muslim that thinks d agitation is about oil. all u nd ur kind think is oil , oil and oil

Rossikk:


You people just talk loud without thinking. We're talking of Africa, this one is mentioning Singapore and Switzerland. So if you become Oduduwa Republic or Niger Delta Republic tomorrow, you will become the new Singapore, correct? Ok, what do you think prevented Sierra Leone, Gambia, Togo, Cameroun, South Sudan etc from becoming the new Singapore? What do you know that those countries don't know? What resources do you have that they don't have? South Sudan has oil. Sierra Leone is a leading global producer of DIAMONDS, yet look at them.

Listen. AFRICA was designated by the western powers over a century ago as a supplier of raw materials to European industry. ALL their policies towards Africa to this day reflect this consensus of theirs. As a small nation, you cannot become a 'Singapore' without the rich world buying your finished goods, much less when they are actively plotting to destabilize you - through for instance, installing compliant dictators, or sponsoring/arming 'rebel' groups against leaders who reject their dictates. They will dictate to you economic policies that will see you remain dependent, so you can continue being a raw materials supplier, as opposed to an industrial giant. And the smaller you are as a nation, the less able you are to override their dictates, without inviting sanctions that will worsen your economy. THEREFORE in the case of AFRICA, BIG is a definite advantage. No question.

You are celebrating the decision of DSTV,forgetting that it was purely a business decision.Every business enterprise will follow their customers.

Big is better right? When Obama was visiting West Africa,he left the so called big and better country and went to a small country: Ghana.

Why is it that the citizens of the so called big and better are trooping to small African countries like South Africa for greener pasture.

KingJhean:
I make bold to say that anybody that wants division of Nigeria is either ridiculously ignorant or in the same line of thought with esau that sold his birth right for food instead of thinking about posterity. If you think that by breaking away, you will be better off, look at how your own leaders are treating you and judge. I see Biafra as nothing short of blind greed (oil wealth), the igbos are the most industrious people in Nigeria, commanding Commerce everywhere, yet they want to break away. My advice is start by relocating to the east and use all billions in your accounts to develop the region in preparation, as I hear there are no roads or valuable infrastructure in onitsha despite boasting of numerous billionaires

Ignoramuse, travel out of that ur poverty stricken hamlet once in ur miserable lifetime and explore anambra and the rest of southeast states to be informed. Instead of disgracing urself with such statement, "I hear"

tooco:
anoda shameless muslim that thinks d agitation is about oil. all u nd ur kind think is oil , oil and oil

Bros abi sister take a chill pill, I am from Akwa Ibom State and I worship at St. Rita Catholic church (Mama Rita, wonder worker). All I can say for your "fantastically" clueless assumption is sha, sha, sha SHAME! Now to a more salient issue, give me a good, intelligent reason for biafra break away?

Nigeria is a big for nothin cesspit, that should be balkernised for every tribe to answer their name and chart their own course, based on whatever is their prerogative and priority.
Eastern region has their priority which is development, education, self reliance etc, while the northern and western region has theirs, which from all indication is ISLAM AND SHARIA. Two can only work together only when they agree

Ganiyat72:

Ignoramuse, travel out of that ur poverty stricken hamlet once in ur miserable lifetime and explore anambra and the rest of southeast states to be informed. Instead of disgracing urself with such statement, "I hear"

I have two questions :
1. Can your kind ever engage in intelligent discourse with out resorting to insults?
2. Are you aware that Onitsha is rated as one of the world's most polluted cities?
3... Answer those ones first before I continue

OP, take your time o.

Time is over ripe for this country to redefine its existence. To be together is not by force!

freeze001:


Hello! Do we not already depend on food and medical aid as well as foreign aid? Are you sleeping? Must you compare yourself to Sierra Leone? Who says you cannot aspire and actually be like Sweden, Luxembourg and a host of others even with less population?

WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT ''DEPEND ON FOOD AND MEDICAL AID AS WELL AS FOREIGN AID''. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT MADAM.

And it's not really about ''aspiring to be like Luxembourg and Sweden''. Development is not really dependent on a nation's level of aspiration. Technically, all nations aspire to be great, perfect, self-sufficient, peaceful etc etc. But there are a multitude of factors, many of which are outside a nation's control, which influence the amount and pace of progress a nation can make. The smaller the nation, the more vulnerable it is to those factors.

Rossikk:


WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT ''DEPEND ON FOOD AND MEDICAL AID AS WELL AS FOREIGN AID''. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT MADAM.

So what is all the foreign aid recorded as being received by this country? Grants for anti-retroviral medication, funding for malaria, records of the largest concentration of Africa's poorest, anti polio funding et al? What are they? Window dressing?

KingJhean:

I have two questions :
1. Can your kind ever engage in intelligent discourse with out resorting to insults?
2. Are you aware that Onitsha is rated as one of the world's most polluted cities?
3... Answer those ones first before I continue

You see, engaging u on a discuss like this is a fruitless venture, nonetheless, i will leave u with these few questions.

What is the meaning of pollution?
So because most part of China is polluted does it mean that China has infrastructure deficiency/lack infrastructure?

https://www.nairaland.com/3134940/uncle-john-hereby-orders-pioneer#46095490 check this

freeze001:


So what is all the foreign aid recorded as being received by this country? Grants for anti-retroviral medication, funding for malaria, records of the largest concentration of Africa's poorest, anti polio funding et al? What are they? Window dressing?

Nigeria does not DEPEND on these various schemes. These schemes are available to all countries considered developing nations, ie 80% of the globe. Even India still receives this sort of 'foreign aid'. Heck, Russia receives it. It won't surprise me if China receives some form of foreign aid from international institutions and donors. These are token assistance schemes which only the poorest nations actually 'depend' on.

Rossikk:

Nigeria does not DEPEND on these various schemes. These schemes are available to all countries considered developing nations, ie 80% of the globe. Even India still receives this sort of 'foreign aid'. Heck, Russia receives it. It won't surprise me if China receives some form of foreign aid from international institutions and donors. These are token assistance schemes which only the poorest nations actually 'depend' on.

Let them stop coming and the FG will be the first to run cap-in-hand begging. It's like u don't understand the level of poverty in this country borne primarily from the lazy system of government we operate abi? Especially in the North!

KingJhean:
I make bold to say that anybody that wants division of Nigeria is either ridiculously ignorant or in the same line of thought with esau that sold his birth right for food instead of thinking about posterity. If you think that by breaking away, you will be better off, look at how your own leaders are treating you and judge. I see Biafra as nothing short of blind greed (oil wealth), the igbos are the most industrious people in Nigeria, commanding Commerce everywhere, yet they want to break away. My advice is start by relocating to the east and use all billions in your accounts to develop the region in preparation, as I hear there are no roads or valuable infrastructure in onitsha despite boasting of numerous billionaires

you are very foolish little boy.

Impressed

KingJhean:

Bros abi sister take a chill pill, I am from Akwa Ibom State and I worship at St. Rita Catholic church (Mama Rita, wonder worker). All I can say for your "fantastically" clueless assumption is sha, sha, sha SHAME! Now to a more salient issue, give me a good, intelligent reason for biafra break away?

it is not 4 anybody to question d igbos why they do not want 2 associate with with nigeria again,its their human right.If the igbos say they want out because of systematic marginalization and they see no hope in restructuring d current system its not 4 u 2 question them.if the igbos fell that that they wil be beta governed wit their kind at d helm of dia affairs at any point n time that of course neva work against dia interest,it is not 4 u 2 question them.u talk of oil lyk d igbos have it n commercial quantity. As 4 ur religion,u made it difficult for me wit d way u reason.i'm also a catholic.

Rossikk:
DSTV recently cancelled the airing of transgender show, I Am Cait, across Africa, owing to the objection of its Nigerian subscribers, in a move that has South Africans fuming, and up in arms over what they consider Nigeria's undue influence over what goes on on the continent.

If the ethnic separatists get their tiny fiefdoms, all that is GONE. You will become a Togo. A Gambia. A Sierra Leone. A Burundi. Insignificant little players. Does anybody ask the Togolese what they think on any issue? NOPE. Their job in Togo is to keep quiet and take orders from the big players on the continent and beyond. When you get your tiny ethnic country, you will grow in insignificance. A visit by the president of Kenya will be as if the US president came. So glad you will be to be noticed by your Kenyan bosses. When they are counting Africa's top economies, your new ethnic republic will be at number 43, if you're lucky. Top militaries? Maybe number 47. If the IMF or the US or France command you to devalue your currency or open up your market for imports etc, you DARE NOT argue with them or they'll crush you.

Nigeria is a task we need to work on, till we succeed. The alternatives are too terrible to contemplate. Smallness is grossly overrated in this country.

I use to think that you're an intelligent person but you just floored my belief system today whith this your unintelligent thread - Nigeria , a task that must be upheld and accomplished even in slavery and internal colonization ? Are you out of your mind ?
Nigeria will never stand as a United entity until we do that which is right - Regionalism or Federalism else everything na wash.
Get the fucck out of ma face bro .

freeze001:


Let them stop coming and the FG will be the first to run cap-in-hand begging. It's like u don't understand the level of poverty in this country borne primarily from the lazy system of government we operate abi? Especially in the North!

Oh please..... Nigeria's annual GDP is $529 billion. All foreign assistance to Nigeria equals an amount less than $0.3 billion per annum at most. So any Nigerian official going 'cap in hand' to anybody is a crook, whom you should investigate. Truth is, Nigeria would barely notice if all aid was discontinued. But it's there for free, so we take it.

tooco:
it is not 4 anybody to question d igbos why they do not want 2 associate with with nigeria again,its their human right.If the igbos say they want out because of systematic marginalization and they see no hope in restructuring d current system its not 4 u 2 question them.if the igbos fell that that they wil be beta governed wit their kind at d helm of dia affairs at any point n time that of course neva work against dia interest,it is not 4 u 2 question them. As 4 ur religion,u made it difficult for me wit d way u reason.i'm also a catholic.

I am not questioning the igbos on anything I am just trying to make sense of it all seeing Akwa Ibom is supposed to be part of biafra
"systematic marginalization " if I may ask how is this being done? Because ever since democracy I can remember, the igbos have been very influential in Nigeria whether anybody likes it or not, Do I need to mention names Ayim, kalu, Ifeanyi Uba, Ngige, Akunyili, Ezekwesili, Deziani, Soludo,. In the face of Nigeria fuel problems an Igbo man is the president of IPMAN, where is the marginalization na?