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| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by macaranta(m): 11:49am On May 31, 2016 |
Ok |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by Nobody: 11:56am On May 31, 2016 |
I prefer to trek frm Lagos to abuja. ..dan reading dis encyclopedia... |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by LRNZH(op): 11:58am On May 31, 2016 |
rhynno:Now wonder our illiteracy rate is still hovering around 65%. ![]() |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by macaranta(m): 12:12pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRZNH have raised some valid points,truth is as Nigerians we missed it when we stated pitting religion vs tribe instead of Elite vs masses.It is know fact that there has been some bitter rivalries between communities in the same town,state or region.Even if the actualization of all this sovereign states are achieved,what makes secessionists think it will be all smooth sailing.Sudan and south Sudan comes to mind. Also it will be very unfair for Niger Deltans to seek a breakaway from Nigeria because crude oil is flowing,remember to ask yourself what Nigeria survived on before the 1958 Oloibiri crude oil discovery. The same crop of corrupt freedom fighters,community leaders,NDDC bosses,leaders from the region that have shortchanged their indigenous people ,using their resources to live flamboyant lifestyles within and outsideNigeria,those are the people Niger Deltans should focus more on.MNCs payout different royalties and entitlements meant for the people and this same money end up in traditional rulers houses. The only reason Lagos is prospering is because it has been peaceful and conducive for businesses to thrive,you don't expect investors to keep dogdging bullets while developing the Niger Delta. Let's give Nigeria a chance,it is our patriotic duty to not kill her. My only question is,what is the criteria for awarding oil blocks to individuals? |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by ken4jj(m): 12:15pm On May 31, 2016 |
LouisVanGaal:That should not be our business. Let them control their resources, it will be surprising to you how others will be better off without oil. If Sudan had not freed South Sudan, maybe the whole world would have thought that South Sudan is been oppressed by Sudan at least we know better now. Give back ND their oil, if they want to kill themselves, let it be and it shouldn't be our problem except the rest of Nigeria cannot do without oil money then it will be a shame on all of us. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by babadee1(m): 12:20pm On May 31, 2016 |
jerrywool:If you're going to put up pictures of Lagos and Abuja, then the ideal Niger Delta picture for comparison should have been Port Harcourt since these are all cities, not some unknown shanty village. By the way that picture of Lagos looks digitally enhanced. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by ndcide(m): 12:21pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:Will things change without any form of agitation? Will the confab report be implemented without any strong push? No! However, I don't support violence. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by SWG25: 12:23pm On May 31, 2016 |
Militancy occurs when there's a lack of social justice in the soceity. If a section of the society(Niger Delta) believe they're not being treated fairly (resource exploitation), they're bound to oppose their oppressors (the federal government) not minding the expense (environmental degradation). The question we should ask is how do we promote social justice in Nigeria? Why aren't Nigerians concerned about the situation of the country? Violent activism are a norm in Nigeria and they will continue. Why? Nigerians should look at the big picture and ask themselves why this country is prone to internal conflicts, violence, tensions and militancy? Millions of Nigerian lives have been lost due to these issues but Nigerians are not willing to ask why these things always happen? Its really annoying. In advanced countries, the preservation of human life and a peaceful soceity is sacrosanct, and this is achieved by promoting social justice and equity. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by GoldEnyong(m): 12:26pm On May 31, 2016 |
Even if we have a million arm groups fighting the same course we will never win if there is no 'true federalism' |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by obailala(m): 12:28pm On May 31, 2016 |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by ndcide(m): 12:31pm On May 31, 2016 |
macaranta:Can you also tell us how Nigeria survived before 1958 and the impact of government on the people of the region then. In spite of all these big grammar. If there's no oil today, the region would have lost its competitive advantage and NO BODY WILL CARE. the resources from that region must be seen to impact the region the most before even the FCT. This is my point and ditto to LRZNH |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by persius555(m): 12:34pm On May 31, 2016 |
bejeiodus:I like the way you use the word "commercialised struggle" because that is what it has become. An avenue for whoever can cause the most devastating damage to get a blank cheque from the govt of the day. For how long will this continue. Personally, i am of the opinion that the ND struggle is the last hope of not just the region but every economically deprived nigerian on the streets in the country. An opportunity for every nigerian to call and question political office holders to account for what comes in and goes out of the coffers. If only every concerned niger delta citizen will approach the struggle from this perspective, there will be equitable sharing of the common wealth all at thefederal, state and local level. Many atimes, i have questioned why the indegenes have not at any time questioned governors in this regions about how resources are put to use. The usual lame and dodgy answer is "it is nobodys business to ask how the leaders in the region spend their allocation". We niger deltans must start asking our leaders to account for the little they have been given, only then can we ask for a higher share. There are enemies within and these enemies are the ones who have refused to answer the query of the people. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by An0nimus: 12:37pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:Thank you for this beautiful piece. One of those threads I never unfollow on NL. Hope this is not on NL alone? please try and send it to all the newspapers you can reach. Naij . com will glady post this. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 12:43pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:I stopped reading when you said the agitations by the women have been largely successful...It clearly shows your ignorance about the true state of events in the region... Go and ask those same women, which of their demands were met long term....The govt and IOC paid lip service to save face in the international community, after that as usual shared some change to a few thieves and its business as usual.... The Ugborodo women are still working on how to take Chevron hostage again...They tried last year and were stopped, I'm sure they will try again... |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by Mctimothylota(m): 12:44pm On May 31, 2016 |
Unfortunately d ND will nt b able 2read dis, cus dey hav been chased away 4rm d comfort of dia home by d NA.. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by Koolking(m): 12:45pm On May 31, 2016*. Modified: 1:38pm On May 31, 2016 |
Thumbs up OP.I couldn't help but 'Like & Share' your submissions. It made moral sense to me. We had this same discourse in our office this morning, with our MD/CEO lending his voice - opinions. As a Nigerian, I made my argument along this line. A lot has been given to these regions (I am privileged to witness some) but nothing has been shown for it. The leaders of these regions think nothing but incurable self-enrichment. They don't care and are not ready for real development of these regions. The oil companies are doing massive CSR, more often than not the funds end up in the pockets of community leaders. Companies contracted to work for these oil companies in the regions are paying royalties to these communities before they can be allowed to work in peace. Royalties are in millions (depending on the value of your contracts). These monies end up in individual and minor few pockets. Sometimes they frustrate companies coming to invest in these communities, in terms building schools, road, SMEs - they prefer these gestures be converted to cash, while a few leaders pocket the money. Their leaders impoverish the people more than the federal government. Ignorance (militancy) will worsen their dire situation. They think they can win by taking up arms and destroying the collective treasures. Wrong move! Niger Delta militants are a passing-phase, government will win at the end continue to ignore them. Violence brings nothing but more violence and pains. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by ken4jj(m): 12:47pm On May 31, 2016 |
SWG25:Nigeria and Africa as a whole are not problem solvers. We rather bring out cosmetic solutions instead of digging deep, applying solutions that kill the problem once and for all. I get worried about the type of country we will leave behind for our children at this rate. Will it worth it? |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by LRNZH(op): 12:48pm On May 31, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:The women should keep persevering. It will come to broad day light one day. By the way, their (women) protests are about real issues affecting the ND and not how to get pipeline protection contracts. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 12:56pm On May 31, 2016*. Modified: 2:03pm On May 31, 2016 |
macaranta:Why you make some great point...You need to stop it with this, oh look at Lagos and you guys should learn crap...Why haven't other Yoruba states learnt and develop it like that, are they suddenly not as peaceful as Lagos... Also not everywhere in the region is volatile, what about Akwa Ibom and Cross River? Are investors dodging billets there too? They are as peaceful and anywhere in Yorubaland, still they are no better than anywhere else in the ND... We have given Nigeria a chance for 50 plus years...We have been more patriotic that y'all claiming patriots today...Tell me what's more patriotic that feeding everyone for half a century with nothing to show for it but Abuja and Lagos. How about you guys be patriotic and tell your govt to make a concerted effort to develop the region for 10years like it did Abuja? How about movin the capital to the region for just a period to fast track such development? Nah Niger Deltans don't deserve that right? We deserve a paltry 13% and lousy nddc n ministry.... What we want in development, they did it for Abuja with our money without setting up any AbujaDDC...Until then we will always agitate, no amount of write ups will change our reality and mins on ground... |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by macaranta(m): 12:57pm On May 31, 2016 |
Koolking:Well said.A certain community in the Niger Delta was supposed to receive pipe borne water installations(for water supply) this was resisted by some people in the community who preferred to be paid for delivering this same water using mobile water trucks. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by dammytosh: 12:58pm On May 31, 2016 |
jerrywool:Whose fault ? So Lagos is also using your OYEL money ? ![]() After the Oyel Crash, Infrrastructure Project continues. Bayelsa is oweing worker for more than 6 months, Lagos is not oweing. I ask once again. "Whose Fault ?" Tijani Ramalan, board chairman of NIMASA, said Tompolo’s company was paid N1.5billion monthly by NIMASA to execute the contract.HAve you asked them ? |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by LRNZH(op): 1:00pm On May 31, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:I know where you're going but stop for a bit. You cannot compare Calabar and Uyo to Yenagoa or Warri. The former 2 are more peaceful and better developed. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 1:01pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:And when they advocated for real issues what did they get? Please preserve it will come to broad day light soon right.....Have they not persevered enough? 50years nor be joke oo When boys blow up pipelines, it's in broad daylight immediately and you make them millionaires...Abeg which one you go do? You see the exact problem right there, develop us them nor gree? Our mothers cry naked, sleep for beach and IOC wetin them get persevere....Now you say make boys nor blow up things... |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 1:08pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:Calabar and Uyo more developed? What's your criteria for developments? Just some okay major roads and cleaner cities? Outside this two things please name one way Calabar is more developed than Warri? Uyo yes, thanks to Akpabio, how many industries have gone there? Even with the state of the art infrastructure and lower overhead oil firms still set up shop in Lagos irrespective of how peaceful those places get...They still have zero functional sea ports, their villages are no better that ours....Warri is way more industrialized than those two cities put together, their people still troop out in droves looking for jobs..What's the excuse there? |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by macaranta(m): 1:13pm On May 31, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:You have fed Nigeria for 50yrs?Very myopic statement.Uyo and calabar have been experiencing steady developmental strides.By development,I'm sure you meant good roads,water,health care etc ..thats something you should ask your state and local government leaders. You call 13% derivation,NDDC,MNDA,the huge state allocations paltry?a bad workman always complain with his tools.Do you know how much MNCs pay communities just to explore and produce in peace?you share it and come back for more,doesn't work like that . |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by Shym3xx: 1:21pm On May 31, 2016 |
LRNZH:This argument has to be the most illogical/counterintuitive argument ever, since most of the proponents of this argument are fond to citing it only when pipelines are blown up, thus affecting the income/revenue the country generates from the oil sector. However, it seems they like feigning ignorance about the fact that environmental degradation via oil spillage and gas flaring has been happening in that region for decades. So, if you care that much about environmental degradation – why not critique the neglect that region has suffered from successive governments? Why cite that now when they’re demanding justice (rightfully so) and not during the different oil spillages by opportunistic oil companies? Why only care when revenue generation is affected? To tackle this issue objectively, you’ve to be open minded in your our outlook with a clear head. Fair enough, the militancy has more to do with self-interests than the actual interest of the people from that region. But that doesn’t negate the fact that the region is the most cheated in the country and, they deserve far more than they’re getting. Also, the 2.2m barrel of oil Nigeria exports daily isn’t enough to cater to 180 million people and the earlier folks realise that, the better it would be for all of you. The owners of the oil deserve at least 50% of the revenue/income generated from it – while others need to look inwards for ways to maximise whatever potentials they’ve in their respective regions. The over-dependence on oil is counter-productive, hence the whole country is the way it’s. And the region that’s the most dependent on oil is the most backward region in the country. That’s not rocket science. Oil breeds a generation of lazy people/thinkers You lot need to start critiquing objectively cos like MLK said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere”. Let these people enjoy what God blessed them with. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by LRNZH(op): 1:30pm On May 31, 2016 |
Shym3xx:You read the OP with a biased mind. I clearly showed that the Niger Delta is justified with its cry of environmental degradation and poverty while oil production went on unabated. The whole Introduction section was dedicated to make this case. The part you quoted, common, if there is spillage due to oil production, does that justify more spillage through sabotage because you want to make a case? That's partly what that point was referring to. I'm glad you didn't argue the tourism piece of it. Anyway, let us keep rubbing minds and sharing opinions. That is the best way to understand and proffer meaningful solutions. Violence is not the answer. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 1:38pm On May 31, 2016*. Modified: 2:00pm On May 31, 2016 |
macaranta:Yes it's paltry....Remember, you're not giving anything...It is mine, and I have given you 87% of what we're suppose to be getting for way too long...Yes we know our leaders are our major problem, but we look and you guys and we can see one thing you've done with the 87% for 50 plus years....Also how many years exactly have we had this ministry 13% that we will never hear the end of... By development, I meant all that and jobs...Where are the jobs in Uyo? Have the thought of relocating any IOC headquarters to Uyo crossed anyone's mind? I don't know much about their healthcare, it can't be all that better than Delta's, theif Uduaghan made strides in healthcare....Now go compare those hospitals and roads with the ones in Abuja, how about jobs or are they not peaceful enough? When Warri was peaceful did it stop the systematic shut down of NPA warri? Fun fact Tompolo used to work at NPA warri before they shut it down... |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by macaranta(m): 1:56pm On May 31, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:I could go back and forth with you all day,it will be worth my time if you can... 1.Research the land use act. 2.understand that even in New York,Paris a and London there is always going to be a jobless person.The CLOs of most Niger delta communities sell job slots allocated to their communities.No body owes you sh#t bro..even in America you have to work you behind off. 3.The 13% ,what have the region's leaders been able to achieve with it. Maybe the north should protest for providing Nigeria with the most security personnel over the years . |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by senbonzakurakageyoshi(m): 1:57pm On May 31, 2016 |
Some people on this thread have hit the nail on the head. It would be difficult, if not completely illogical, to give the ND region full control of their resources if with the little they get, they have done practically nothing. Remember Jesus' parable of the talents? (for the Christians). The master said "because you have been Faithful (prudent, judicious, useful, wise) with little, I will set you over more". Unfortunately, most of the ND leaders have been profligate and have mismanaged both allocations and goodwill. Why then are they asking for more, if they have not provided anything useful with what they already get? Majority of the leaders of the resource control clamour have terribly selfish interests - they just want direct access to all of the money. If you give them control today, I can almost bet in ten years they wouldn't have made any meaningful impact. The people of the region should first hold their current leaders at all levels accountable for the mismanagement of their current allocations before asking for more. I'm all for a proper federal structure, bit not when it will only benefit some that want to become Nigeria's oil sheikhs overnight on the back of their people's struggle and suffering. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by senbonzakurakageyoshi(m): 2:22pm On May 31, 2016 |
As for the person that mentioned Lagos, just wollup very well. Lagos is Nigeria's commercial nerve center. It only makes business sense for any companies coming in to the country to go the the state where there is a functional port, international airport, market and man power. Why would any company first go to setup shop in a state that would prove to be more of a liability than asset to it's business model? Before you start arguing about how the FG has favored Lagos, it would do you well to remember that from 1999 to just last year, Lagos was in the control of an opposition party. Much of Lagos' expenditure was/are also funded by IGR and PPPs. Ask Lagosians how much they paid/still pay in taxes. Interestingly, practically all the ND states were under the leadership of the same political party as the Federal government in this same time frame (asides maybe Ondo and Edo for half the period under review). So go and ask that party and the regional ND leaders from that same party that held sway for 16 years why they did not leverage on their connection to the Federal government to attract and fast track development in the region. |
| Re: The Opportunity Costs Of Militancy In The Niger Delta, An Exposé by WeNigerDelta: 2:22pm On May 31, 2016 |
macaranta:If you've read all my post, you won't find a line where I absolve my leaders of any blame....They are all part of the corrupt evil Nigerian system.... What is it with you guys and calling us lazy? Is that what they beat into your head to believe? Most youths in the region are ready to work, damn they even take extra welding and whatever courses just to be able to get any job.....Stop it already, we are that farthest thing from lazy.... Most of the job slots you're raving about are contract jobs for few months....Come to Warri and understand the meaning of the work don finish....These jobs has zero benefits and their safety are not the priorities of the IOC, because they defer those responsibilities to the contractors.....Because you are not from our region you have no idea how Yorubas steal the permanent jobs in these companies with tribalism, people that attend the same school as our brothers....Believe it or not it's our reality, if your company is in Texas you employ Texans first, same in Cali or London it's when you cant find competent hands that you outsource from all over....Employ Niger Deltans in permanent positions first is all we are asking for, we don't need any hand outs.:. |
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?? Federalism WOULD have made sense then. When leaders from each region were fighting just course....Give resource control of oil to SS/ND and watch how tompolo, Asari, ateke,timi alaibe and co ud clash...Resource control is good, don't get me wrong, but some persons ud use it to advance selfish course...Same goes for Biafra..