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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m):
n3xt:
Just 3 times. I'm the voice of reason.
Absolutely you are! Check my thread to see how I describe u






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then u will learn to watch ur back.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:28am On Jun 02, 2016
agarawu23:
Oga, your last post deleted.

Do you mean they are cheaper in Lagos than in Ibadan considering the transportation if someone is buying above 301sqm
Yes. Buying from Lagos is always cheaper once you're buying in large quantities
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:30am On Jun 02, 2016
erico2k2:
Nice one,
I have often wondered, why cant we use wood as mantles in our windows??
Wood is another option. But it has to be treated and we'll seasoned. I'm sure the furniture guys can do this.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:32am On Jun 02, 2016
n3xt:
Wood, Polystrene and Aluminium should work. So also steel but not in areas water can reach.

Plastic for outdoor application is a Big No for me.
Plastic can be custom made to be very strong too..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:38am On Jun 02, 2016
EgunMogaji:
Good observations Sir.

It's a mid strength safe room (I no be polithiefcian like Mr. Agarawu would say grin ) I toyed with the idea of the having steel plates in between the blocks but the price of the required steel in Nigeria was eye popping shocked But the roof will still have a steel plate though (more cost effective than concrete pillars and decking by my layman calculations).

So a weak mixture of cement as we climb might be all we'll do, but I'm still doing research yet.

Thanks Sir.

I like what you're doing with Mr. Australias house in Ifo (a complete and beautiful transformation), I wish I can afford you one day. It didn't go unnoticed that you labelled my quote as "chicken coop in elebu" my wife and I had a good laugh and we appreciate your humour Sir.

PS: The other advantage I'm hoping for is concealment of the existence.
Thanks Sir Egunmogaji.. we all call it Chicken coop for easy identification and sarcasm. It distinguishes your house. Nice ideas you have there. I just hope prices of items and other factors will allow you.

Thanks for noticing the work done on Mr Australia's house.. and we haven't finished yet. More to come.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
segcymoor:
Absolutely you are! Check my thread to see how I describe u

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then u will learn to watch ur back.
I drive focusing on the windshield and not the rearview mirror.


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AZUH, Donatus knew me as Bosun. Tell him we worked together at Diamond Estate, Sangotedo. He'll give the house a perfect facelift using the POP.
And come back to show us the awesome transformation.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 8:13am On Jun 02, 2016
n3xt:
Cinemas and shopping malls were reintroduced in Nigeria by the South Africans in 2005 or so (The Palms, Lekki, Ceddi Plaza, Abuja and Silverbird Galleria, VI the pioneer). Then I could remember how they come in every mins to fix stuff. You may need to find out who maintains those malls for more than a decade now.
Everyone from the MD down to the cleaners are Nigerians and they deal with the most sophiscated gadgets you can ever mention. Maybe that's the reason why I'm tagged Jack.

Anyway, it didn't take long before we took over operations and for more than a decade now, more shopping malls and cinemas that is rated above average are springing up here and there in Nigeria.

You still believe it's purely foreigners at work.

Bros, think different!
Well how do you get en ovate when you are not exposed to new ideas via training plus learning how to do things in a diffrent way?
I have been sent to China and Canada by my company for training. And I have trained people from Dubai and many places of the world
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
Test Continues

4" Solid (Sharp Sand) Blocks by NextHome vs CGF Blocks.

Brabus

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:32am On Jun 02, 2016
erico2k2:
Well how do you get en ovate when you are not exposed to new ideas via training plus learning how to do things in a diffrent way?
I have been sent to China and Canada by my company for training. And I have trained people from Dubai and many places of the world
I agree we need training and retraining. That's why I said in one of my old posts that I wish I can replicate as many Brabus as NextHome needs.

Well done bros.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
NextHome Brick+Stone | Drop Test from 5.6m Height.

Test Site: K-024 Coop Villa, BADORE
Drop Height: 5.6m (First Floor)

6" Hollowed Core Block from NextHome Brick+Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircSNBKCWMY

4" Solid Block from NextHome Brick+Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKl73zHjjk


Brabus
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mosvillecom: 9:25am On Jun 02, 2016
Phone: 09083406651, 07056232588
Email: msolomon@mosville.com
Website: www.mosville.com

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 9:38am On Jun 02, 2016
n3xt:
NextHome Brick+Stone | Drop Test from 5.6m Height.

Test Site: K-024 Coop Villa, BADORE
Drop Height: 5.6m (First Floor)

6" Hollowed Core Block from NextHome Brick+Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircSNBKCWMY

4" Solid Block from NextHome Brick+Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKl73zHjjk
Good! So how much ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:43am On Jun 02, 2016
segcymoor:
Good! So how much ?
It's not yet commercial. We are still working on the logistics (distribution and marketing).

For now, they're used for our projects only. And clients do pay between N130 - N170. It could cost more when we go commercial.

Brabus
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:20am On Jun 02, 2016
erico2k2:
Ah I add £100 to that ahah grin
Howe've you remember that bricky tool I showed us wen we was at the other thread b4 this was formed?
That would make the mortar finish almost perfect
I tried to find that damn tool but couldn't. I could only find the one for the small bricks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:25am On Jun 02, 2016
spyder880:
Then again, there is the issue of cost. Comparing some foreign made materials with their Nigerian counterparts will reveal a lot of difference. Compare this pictured block which is sold abroad for $1.15, which in Nigeria could be exchanged for about N350 x 1.15 = N402.50.

When you consider that the average block in Nigeria is sold at around N130.00, you will see that each foreign block can buy 3 Nigerian blocks with N12.50 change to spare.

The dimensions of the foreign block is even smaller than the Nigerian block,
Foreign block pictured is about 16 " x 8" x 8" while Nigerian blocks in the same category is measured 18" x 9" x 9". The difference here is that in a wall where you would have used 80 Nigerian blocks, you will need 90 foreign blocks to cover same space.

How many of our people will pay N402.50 for each block without having other people call him and say "the contractor robbed you" Let us compare things with value in mind.
But Bros, the question is can we build such a wall in Nigeria at any cost?

My answer is no.

It's not all about money and value. It makes no financial sense to build a bungalow that takes two lots, but that's what I wanted.

My $100 is still on the table that it can't be done.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody:
Dominionng:
The estate displayed was handled by PSYLICRON!
Thanks for answering the question.

I'll go research the company and I'm sure it's going to be another foreigner backed one too. Or maybe not.

I'm truly rooting for indigenous companies to stand proud with no affiliations to foreign entities. This is my perogative and no one else needs to buy into it.

#StopBlusteringAndFluffering
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 10:40am On Jun 02, 2016
n3xt:
It's not yet commercial. We are still working on the logistics (distribution and marketing).

For now, they're used for our projects only. And clients do pay between N130 - N170. It could cost more when we go commercial.

Brabus
U mean u sold this seemingly concrete blocks @the rate of 170...is that suppose to mean Dangote gave u Cement free of charge.After all ve truck cool


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U seem to confused me if the block show in the video is the same quality as the one sold
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
segcymoor:
U mean u sold this seemingly concrete blocks @the rate of 170...is that suppose to mean Dangote gave u Cement free of charge.After all ve truck cool


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U seem to confused me if the block show in the video is the same quality as the one sold
Don't get confused bro. I can still throw down more. I only pick one at random from the unused block on the upper floor of the test site during site inspection this morning. Nothing special.

However, in order to be relevant in the game, you need to look less at the immediate gains.

Just last week I announced that the 4" solid is been requested by one of the most popular .... in VI. They are presently doing a multi-million dollars construction with JB and other construction giants. That's where I wanna sell my blocks.

It's a number game. The more. The merrier. The paying clients will pay the right figure without stress.

I'm sure you'll agree that my marketing strategy won't be to go to sites to throw blocks from 10 story buildings. But to give an irresistible offer.

I've saved on cost of production by dealing with major area of challenges (Dump Truck, Solar Powered Pump for Borehole, etc).

What else do I need? Stress? No!

I want to sit down and people make orders for blocks based on their specification and not the general market specs.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 11:10am On Jun 02, 2016
erico2k2:
Ah I add £100 to that ahah grin
Howe've you remember that bricky tool I showed us wen we was at the other thread b4 this was formed?
That would make the mortar finish almost perfect
Thanks Erico,

That is the tool l was referring to , in my previous post some pages behind.



Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 11:39am On Jun 02, 2016
n3xt:
Don't get confused bro. I can still throw down more. I only pick one at random from the unused block on the upper floor of the test site during site inspection this morning. Nothing special.

However, in order to be relevant in the game, you need to look less at the immediate gains.

Just last week I announced that the 4" solid is been requested by one of the most popular .... in VI. They are presently doing a multi-million dollars construction with JB and other construction giants. That's where I wanna sell my blocks.

It's a number game. The more. The merrier. The paying clients will pay the right figure without stress.

I'm sure you'll agree that my marketing strategy won't be to go to sites to throw blocks from 10 story buildings. But to give an irresistible offer.

I've saved on cost of production by dealing with major area of challenges (Dump Truck, Solar Powered Pump for Borehole, etc).

What else do I need? Stress? No!

I want to sit down and people make orders for blocks based on their specification and not the general market specs.
Hmnn. I ve said it before.! And I will said it again




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I trust this guy!..... Truly it's a matter of figures and that is major advantage Dangote took.

Have u asked urself how many millions eat indomie daily.?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m):
segcymoor:
U mean u sold this seemingly concrete blocks @the rate of 170...is that suppose to mean Dangote gave u Cement free of charge.After all ve truck cool


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U seem to confused me if the block show in the video is the same quality as the one sold
Bros, my head no dey swell o. Thanks for the compliment.

If I do a solid block for a reasonable price, will I need to write the book epistle to the Nairalanders to convince segcymoor to buy.

Definitely, NO!

Everybody WINS.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 11:52am On Jun 02, 2016
beedam:
if you did all the above before , what now happened in Qc1 house? I don't seem to understand!

Try and meet with him so as to save the house from sinking further since you built the house. Biko!
How are you and where have you been?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 12:07pm On Jun 02, 2016
to engineers and everyone in the house. of what advantage it is doing a framed structure, i.e using only pillars and beams before placing blocks and doing the normal pillars and block setting. i really want to know if can use 6 inches block in place of 9inches for a duplex adopting the frame method. thanks all..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beedam(f): 12:33pm On Jun 02, 2016
Qc1:
How are you and where have you been?
I'm good, hope you are too?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 12:36pm On Jun 02, 2016
Barryton:
to engineers and everyone in the house. of what advantage it is doing a framed structure, i.e using only pillars and beams before placing blocks and doing the normal pillars and block setting. i really want to know if can use 6 inches block in place of 9inches for a duplex adopting the frame method. thanks all..
To put it straight ,framing the structure is structurally advantage. But their may issues using 6'' blocks because beam can't be aligned with block.

With this methods, all load is safely transfer from beam to the columns and eventually to foundation. U are sure of the integrity size of the column as design.
However, it s technically involved unlike the other approach

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Note:Not every structure necessary to be framed
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:46pm On Jun 02, 2016
http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2014/12/19/5-signs-youre-a-bad-customer

#AreYouTheCommonDenominator?

Iwo leyan fe gbe gun, iwo ni won forilu nigba aya angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:47pm On Jun 02, 2016
Barryton:
to engineers and everyone in the house. of what advantage it is doing a framed structure, i.e using only pillars and beams before placing blocks and doing the normal pillars and block setting. i really want to know if can use 6 inches block in place of 9inches for a duplex adopting the frame method. thanks all..
Frame structures in Nigeria can be constructed in two ways, namely; building the block first by allowing spaces for the columns or pillars before casting the columns (pillars), beams and slab. This method of construction is more cost effective than the second method. This method is only suitable for a small residential building of bungalow of storey to two storey building, it is not advisable for higher floor building.

The second method involves the construction of all the frame formwork (for columns, beams, slab) , casting of all these members, curing, allowing for setti and full gain of strength for a minimum period of 21days or 28days as the case may be and finally striking (removal all formwork before building the partition walls which are completely non load bearer.
This method is more expensive than the previous method but gives better strength and neat method of structural work. This method should be employed for building bigger than one story building and above (note: it can also be used for a bungalow or one storey building if the client can afford it).

6 inch blocks can be used, only that it will create recesses on both side of the wall because according to bs codes, a minimum column cross section for a building with suspended floor is 225mm (9''). The design can be done with these recesses in mind to allow for the use of 6'' blocks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 1:24pm On Jun 02, 2016
beedam:
I'm good, hope you are too?
I'm still surviving.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:25pm On Jun 02, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I tried to find that damn tool but couldn't. I could only find the one for the small bricks.
See I told U that U av to come pay homage to the Queen and I grin grin
The ones I posted was designed by a guy in his garage its a small factory. I recon it's on Ebay check.
It's called the bricky tool or smthing along those lines
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 2:14pm On Jun 02, 2016
abdulwastecx:
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6 inch blocks can be used, only that it will create recesses on both side of the wall because according to bs codes, a minimum column cross section for a building with suspended floor is 225mm (9'') . The design can be done with these recesses in mind to allow for the use of 6'' blocks
If l may suggest, what about just doing the "inner partitions only" as 6" Blocks (as against all walls), while using 9" for the Perimeter Blocks?

I have done this in the past and it allowed my build to conform to the specified codes of Column/Beam size in majority of the places where they are required... even as the 6" 'inner partitions' are not load bearing as you observed.



Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 2:33pm On Jun 02, 2016
mufutau55:
I am very, very impressed too.

@KolaShangone

Hajji M.
Thank you sirs. I'm humbled
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 2:35pm On Jun 02, 2016
lastpage:
If l may suggest, what about just doing the "inner partitions only" as 6" Blocks (as against all walls), while using 9" for the Perimeter Blocks?

I have done this in the past and it allowed my build to conform to the specified codes of Column/Beam size in majority of the places where they are required... even as the 6" 'inner partitions' are not load bearing as you observed.



Lastpage!
That is one area where we need serious research. Cost of building carcass can be reduce greatly by building with lighter weight partition walls. Light partitions walls polystyrene, rice husk arsh blocks, light weight concrete wall, stud and plywood walls can help reduce dead load on slab, this will significantly reduce the load on slab, beam and columns. With lower load, a smaller section of structural components can be employed, thereby, reducing cost of cements.

I like the idea of working with architects on project to reduce cost of carcass construction. Things like grid system can play a big roles on cost of construction
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