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Completely framed structure in Nigeria have problem of lack of proper binding between the adjoining partition walls and the structural columns because these columns may be too smooth to properly bond with the wall. Thus problem can be rectify by attaching an iron binder to the column before laying the blocks.

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abdulwastecx:
Completely framed structure in Nigeria have problem of lack of proper binding between the adjoining partition walls and the structural columns because these columns may be too smooth to properly bond with the wall. Thus problem can be rectify by attaching an iron binder to the column before laying the blocks.

I think that is the practise abroad with high rise buildings

back2sender:
Your message depicts you as a female but your moniker says a male. To me integrity matters n i dont buy your story even if its true.

Babalakin:
I'm her son.she doesn't have a handle here to air her matter.I wrote as she directed.you don't need to buy her story.the message is clear enough sir,no point looking up the messenger.she only seeks for advice;and nothing else .PEACE

Haaaa, NO now.... Dont say that.

Her story is "mostly" true (since we cant say 100% when hearing just one side of the story)



While l agree that integrity matters a lot, but minor things like "gender' on Nairaland moniker should not be so important as to discredit this sort of "real life" issue.

I have a colleague who is a full Colonel today, stepping on brigadier in two years at most, who is facing a similar issue at Festac..
He paid for his "long-occupied" house, through a housing fund loan as far back as 2009 and the military is playing pranks with his allocation.
The good thing about him is that he is still in service and is able to move within the chain of command to seek redress.

I feel so much sympathy for this woman because her husband is deceased and l am privy with the way our country treat families of officers who die in service or during active duty. ITS BAD.[/b]

Its even worse when you live in Lagos and decisions affecting you are to be taken in Abuja.... which means you have to consider "transport" of and on, to Abuja, for a protracted battle.
You cant hurry it as you will 'Normal Civil Servants' or even go public since you are a serving officer! That could lead to an orderly room trial if you are not careful sef.

But in madam's case, she is a civilian and "l think" she is not subject to those rules as she is acting in her own capacity.
I will suggest she pushes this to the open (Channels TV, Police Facebook page, e.t.c) where people who can reverse decisions like this can either see it directly or their attention called to it.
[b]Essentially, it looks like a case of corruption/fraud.
I am not too comfortable with all these

Not much can be done on Nairaland property section. Even better attention/coverage might be got from the Politics section!

I just want her to be sure every thing she deposes to, is as clean as a whistle.

I dont have too much faith in those "public defenders" as some of them have been known to take bribes and act against the interest of that "faceless" person they are supposed to be fighting for.

But dont be discouraged, just keep knocking at the right doors and demanding JUSTICE.
May God help your Mum




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BTW: I have wanted to post the above since l read your message yesterday but held on for some reasons.

House, I need a painter in Ibadan that can quickly do a small job for me.

I need about 150 feet of fascia board to be painted with water proof paint ASAP.

Thanks.

Lagos-Calabar Rail Project Captured in 2016 Budget | Possible Affected Communities be aware.

Name: Nigeria Coastal Railway
Use: Transport
Status: Approved (Feasibility Studies Underway)
States: Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Abia, Akwa Ibom, Cross River
Contractor: CCECC
Cost: $13.1 Billion
Gauge: Standard


In 2009, I heard the rumor and use the first hand information to pick my land. I already knew of Sagamu as one of the affected communities and I ensure I got at least 65m setback from the "already installed beacons" for the proposed rail line to my property.

If you're building within any of the listed communities that fall within the route of the already awarded railway, it'll be wise to visit your nearest local planning offices to know the exact route and also check if you do not fall within setback limits. Calabar-Uyo-Aba-PH-Otuoke-Yenagoa-Ughelli-Warri-Sapelle-Benin-Agbor-Asaba-Onitsha-Benin-Ore-Ijebu ode-Sagamu-Lagos

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EgunMogaji:
I've even put $100 down on it

It can't be done.

nothing is impossible Oga egunmogaji ,i believe it can be achieved if it is clearly stated before the start of block laying process that the wall will not be plastered,the client should also be ready to do that at an extra cost comparing to the normal cost of laying blocks ,finally the blocks should be bought from a competent block moulder that has a quality and perfect mould.

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Oga Hajj, dont even go as far as the US!


Just compare Blocks made by the owner/user within lagos, with a "for sale", commercially made one!
From being very thin (thickness), to being under-sized (wideness), to too much sand and even poor quality sand.... e tire me sef!

Even wood is cut to substandard size!
When Engineers and Architect recommend you use a 2x3 sized wood, you go to the sawmill to buy it and what they sell for you as 2x3 is actually 1.5 x 2.5!

if you query it, they have "ready-made" excuses like: this China machines are not designed to produce 2x3!; It is only Japan machine that still does that size! It is caused by NEPA vibration which makes the machine to lose setting!

Same with Aluminium Roofing sheets: Give me 0.55mm and when l measure it, it is reading 0.47mm!
Oga why now?
It is the machine, it sis China, e.t.c

I ask: So Machine is now the one "setting and controlling" itself?

Even "measures" used in selling food in small quantities are not left out!
What about Petrol Pumps that sell "air" into your fuel tank or using Meters that have been tweaked to slow down?

In Nigeria, everything, almost everything is now substandard.
Cheaters and criminals everywhere, ripping innocent people-off with substandard, adulterated and fake goods.

At times, l think we need a military regime to put things on track in this country..... Not IBB-type o!f Military regime though.



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i always like ur write up

Barryton:
to engineers and everyone in the house. of what advantage it is doing a framed structure, i.e using only pillars and beams before placing blocks and doing the normal pillars and block setting. i really want to know if can use 6 inches block in place of 9inches for a duplex adopting the frame method. thanks all..

in frame structures ,the blocks are not load bearing ,d reason it's not advisable to use 6inches blocks is because the beam and columns will be designed as 9inches,using 6inches won't match the sizes of d beams and columns

tevanso:
nothing is impossible Oga egunmogaji ,i believe it can be achieved if it is clearly stated before the start of block laying process that the wall will not be plastered,the client should also be ready to do that at an extra cost comparing to the normal cost of laying blocks ,finally the blocks should be bought from a competent block moulder that has a quality and perfect mould.

Story story (with due respect).

Surely, with $100 on the table, someone can show me a previously constructed wall like OP wants.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTcBgs2huRo

Barryton:
to engineers and everyone in the house. of what advantage it is doing a framed structure, i.e using only pillars and beams before placing blocks and doing the normal pillars and block setting. i really want to know if can use 6 inches block in place of 9inches for a duplex adopting the frame method. thanks all..

in frame structures ,the blocks are not load bearing ,just serving as cover for the building,d reason it's not advisable to use 6inches blocks is because the beam and columns will be designed as 9inches,using 6inches won't match the sizes of d beams and columns

EgunMogaji:
I tried to find that damn tool but couldn't. I could only find the one for the small bricks.

This is the tool

And

erico2k2:
I think that is the practise abroad with high rise buildings

we do that here too in naija,many estate don't allow block settings before casting the columns and beams,so u have to do them first

tevanso:
nothing is impossible Oga egunmogaji ,i believe it can be achieved if it is clearly stated before the start of block laying process that the wall will not be plastered,the client should also be ready to do that at an extra cost comparing to the normal cost of laying blocks ,finally the blocks should be bought from a competent block moulder that has a quality and perfect mould.

I do not for once believe that the cost of laying blocks should determine the quality of work, so are there different tier in brick laying?
If you are talking about quality of brick I get that but quality of how brick are laid man me nor understand that one oh,U name will son enter my list

tevanso:
we do that here too in naija,many estate don't allow block settings before casting the columns and beams,so u have to do them first

Do what
This was what I was talking about though,how the re-enforced concrete rise for the ground to the roof

Qc1:
I'm still surviving.

It is well sir.

erico2k2:
I do not for once believe that the cost of laying blocks should determine the quality of work, so are there different tier in brick laying?
If you are talking about quality of brick I get that but quality of how brick are laid man me nor understand that one oh,U name will son enter my list

Even quality of brick sef.

Wetin association of blockmakers dey do?

EgunMogaji:
But Bros, the question is can we build such a wall in Nigeria at any cost?

My answer is no.

It's not all about money and value. It makes no financial sense to build a bungalow that takes two lots, but that's what I wanted.

My $100 is still on the table that it can't be done.

I am sure it could be done Sir. How I wish I have the time and resources to prove you wrong.

Egunmogaji . Are you a tiler ?

Congrats MR Azuh! I see new project coming soon

AZUH:
Egunmogaji . Are you a tiler ?

Yes, but I only work on my own houses.

spyder880:
I am sure it could be done Sir. How I wish I have the time and resources to prove you wrong.

Story...

But at least you came up with a different excuse, lack of time.

All I've been hearing before was money and affordability.

n3xt:
Lagos-Calabar Rail Project Captured in 2016 Budget | Possible Affected Communities be aware.

Name: Nigeria Coastal Railway
Use: Transport
Status: Approved (Feasibility Studies Underway)
States: Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Abia, Akwa Ibom, Cross River
Contractor: CCECC
Cost: $13.1 Billion
Gauge: Standard


In 2009, I heard the rumor and use the first hand information to pick my land. I already knew of Sagamu as one of the affected communities and I ensure I got at least 65m setback from the "already installed beacons" for the proposed rail line to my property.

If you're building within any of the listed communities that fall within the route of the already aw :oarded railway, it'll be wise to visit your nearest local planning offices to know the exact route and also check if you do not fall within setback limits. Calabar-Uyo-Aba-PH-Otuoke-Yenagoa-Ughelli-Warri-Sapelle-Benin-Agbor-Asaba-Onitsha-Benin-Ore-Ijebu ode-Sagamu-Lagos

cc: Marpol
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EgunMogaji:
Story...

But at least you came up with a different excuse, lack of time.

All I've been hearing before was money and affordability.

Anyway!! we Builders cannot archive that in Nigeria. Only Overseas you get a Builder that Skilled to do it. I agree with you

skimanski:
Anyway!! we Builders cannot archive that in Nigeria. Only Overseas you get a Builder that Skilled to do it. I agree with you

My chairman, I respectfully disagree Sir but I know that you're pulling my leg.

You of all the builders on here can absolutely do it. In fact after I made my bet I thought "good lord, I just gave Skimanski ijebumans $100"

spyder880:
I am sure it could be done Sir. How I wish I have the time and resources to prove you wrong.

Doesn't have to be the entire building.

There are just a few walls I will need to be straight and neat (half bath in the foyer, 1 wall in ante room, and kitchen walls).

I believe it can be done too. Showing the block layer how the wall will be treated, I believe they will be able to keep it neat and straight without spacers.

See With the way you guys have Spoken it means even with from your unprofessional View, you have a way to getting it done talkless of my Ogas them in the house, that do it for a living.

So Oga Keep you 100$ before Some people use am Buy Tomatoes & Fuel This season ooo.

skimanski:
See With the way you guys have Spoken it means even with from your unprofessional View, you have a way to getting it done talkless of my Ogas them in the house, that do it for a living.

So Oga Keep you 100$ before Some people use am Buy Tomatoes & Fuel This season ooo.

Speaking for myself, yes I can and have laid such clean blocks before in the USA.

Can I do it in Nigeria? Nope, not inclined.

But someone should be able to do it in Nigeria. I'm trying to goad anyone that may be interested into upping the bar.

You've done a lot of complicated stuff. Demonstrated, not just giving us speech.

If you've done this before, lets see it, if not why not? You have the people that have skills. I've seen your work

Even though it always comes round to it but this is not Americana know too much versus Nigerian builder. We're all learning from each other, at least I do even from my never to be named sworn enemies

tevanso:
in frame structures ,the blocks are not load bearing ,just serving as cover for the building,d reason it's not advisable to use 6inches blocks is because the beam and columns will be designed as 9inches,using 6inches won't match the sizes of d beams and columns

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EgunMogaji:
Story...

But at least you came up with a different excuse, lack of time.

All I've been hearing before was money and affordability.

Boss keep up, that nah new format

erico2k2:
I do not for once believe that the cost of laying blocks should determine the quality of work, so are there different tier in brick laying?
If you are talking about quality of brick I get that but quality of how brick are laid man me nor understand that one oh,U name will son enter my list

most mason work on block counting ,i am sure if u can neglect the counting and pay them per day to lay let's say 50 blocks u will be able to achieve that sir ,with a competent mason . i know about 3 mason who can do DAT for, if u wouldn't mind we can experiment with ur project.