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krazykoons:
all you do is cry over Yoruba Muslims on nl while they don't even know of your existence, your forefather azikwe did all he could to kiss the ass of his Fulani lord,on what grounds did your foolish Dr zik would want to be in a union with the Hausa who on slightest provocation would descend on his people and hunt them like games in the arena.,what about the kano riot 1953.
Between 1947 and 1959 Nigerian nationalist leaders from different regional, ethnic, and religious communities came together in a series of conferences and to negotiate the transition to self-rule and to map out a common future. During these interactions the Northerners declared Nigeria “the mistake of 1914”
This proposal for inclusion of right of secession by the regions in independent Nigeria by the AG(West)was rejected and resisted by NCNC (east) which vehemently argued for a tightly bound united/unitary structured nation because it viewed the provision of a secession clause as detrimental to the formation of a United Nigeria. In the face of sustained opposition by the NCNC delegates, later joined by the NPC and backed by threats to view maintenance of the inclusion of secession by the AG as treasonable by the British, the AG was forced to renounce its position of inclusion of the right of secession a part of the Nigerian constitution.
your mini god or dog ojukwu still came back to contest under a Fulani party after he sacrificed 3millions of his people.
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pacino26:
Hmm, so by this article I can deduce that the Perm SEC made Gowon to renegade on what was agreed in the interest of A United Nigeria abi?

How is it turning out today?

omenka:
Na which kind english una dey speak for this forum sometimes?? Haba. The word is "renege" and not renegade. Renegade is a noun synonymous to "fugitive", renege is a verb. Make una dey try small abeg.

Realman87:
You are deceiving yourself. Educated and enlightened Nigerians know the truth of your lies and do not consider it necessary to cure your ignorance. First, Azikiwe saw clearly the treacherous nature of Awolowo and never trusted him. Thus, all Awolowo's suggestions to Azikiwe fell on deaf ears. Despite Ahmadu bello's bad comments, Zik knew that the northerners could be trusted more and always stand by their words. Thus it was better to work with people whose Yes is YES. Secondly, on the scale of nationalism, the Igbos are the most nationalistic, followed by the northerners and lastly the yorubas. The yorubas are regionalistic and never nationalistic. They are self centered and only consider their interest. Azikiwe saw this, and opted for a more nationalistic north. Finally, in the life of every nation, a leader plays a specific role. Azikiwe's calling was work for Nigeria's independance as a united nation and he fulfilled his calling. The senseless 'secession clause' couldn't have been sanctioned by a born nationalist whose goal is to lead his nation to independence.

krazykoons:
all you do is cry over Yoruba Muslims on nl while they don't even know of your existence, your forefather azikwe did all he could to kiss the ass of his Fulani lord,on what grounds did your foolish Dr zik would want to be in a union with the Hausa who on slightest provocation would descend on his people and hunt them like games in the arena.,what about the kano riot 1953.
Between 1947 and 1959 Nigerian nationalist leaders from different regional, ethnic, and religious communities came together in a series of conferences and to negotiate the transition to self-rule and to map out a common future. During these interactions the Northerners declared Nigeria “the mistake of 1914”
This proposal for inclusion of right of secession by the regions in independent Nigeria by the AG(West)was rejected and resisted by NCNC (east) which vehemently argued for a tightly bound united/unitary structured nation because it viewed the provision of a secession clause as detrimental to the formation of a United Nigeria. In the face of sustained opposition by the NCNC delegates, later joined by the NPC and backed by threats to view maintenance of the inclusion of secession by the AG as treasonable by the British, the AG was forced to renounce its position of inclusion of the right of secession a part of the Nigerian constitution.
your mini god or dog ojukwu still came back to contest under a Fulani party after he sacrificed 3millions of his people.
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krazykoons:
in your warped little mind you've just made sense.
zik knew the north could be trusted definitely not with human lives,you people are so irredeemable foolish,the north has been standing by their words and actions that's why they still behead your people like the true friends they are.
zik preferred to be a lackey to the northerners just because of his selfish political gains,if that is not the case,how can a sane man who have seen the havoc wrecked on his people during the kano massacre of ibos because the north weren't ready for independence,vote to be in the same country with the same set if people and outrightly spearheaded a campaign to remove the secession clause,how does right of secession stops Nigeria from getting independence,are you on prescriptions?
so why do you want out of zik desired united Nigeria all of a sudden,why are your people clamoring for atleast regionalism the untrustworthy Yorubas voted for,from your honest Hausa friends
Mr nationalistic,I see it was the Yoruba that spurred your other nationalistic friend to kill your nationalistic ancestors during the infamous pogroms.
your comment shows how a typical IBO reasons, you would rather die,rolling in spasm insulting Yorubas who never wanted you,that they are one supporting Hausa to hold you down in the 'zoo',than attack your ibo-blood loving hausas since they are your honest,loyal and trustworthy friends
any form of violence meted upon you by your Fulani friends you guys definitely don't deserve pity.
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krazykoons:
in your warped little mind you've just made sense.
zik knew the north could be trusted definitely not with human lives,you people are so irredeemable foolish,the north has been standing by their words and actions that's why they still behead your people like the true friends they are.
zik preferred to be a lackey to the northerners just because of his selfish political gains,if that is not the case,how can a sane man who have seen the havoc wrecked on his people during the kano massacre of ibos because the north weren't ready for independence,vote to be in the same country with the same set if people and outrightly spearheaded a campaign to remove the secession clause,how does right of secession stops Nigeria from getting independence,are you on prescriptions?
so why do you want out of zik desired united Nigeria all of a sudden,why are your people clamoring for atleast regionalism the untrustworthy Yorubas voted for,from your honest Hausa friends
Mr nationalistic,I see it was the Yoruba that spurred your other nationalistic friend to kill your nationalistic ancestors during the infamous pogroms.
your comment shows how a typical IBO reasons, you would rather die,rolling in spasm insulting Yorubas who never wanted you,that they are one supporting Hausa to hold you down in the 'zoo',than attack your ibo-blood loving hausas since they are your honest,loyal and trustworthy friends
any form of violence meted upon you by your Fulani friends you guys definitely don't deserve pity.
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Marcelini:
Show Me one colonial document, where the British granted the Nigerian regions right to separate existence via secession. Do this now or forever stop spreading this your propaganda that had been allowed to go unchallenged by Ndiigbo for decades, simply because we didn't consider it worthy of our time.

I am waiting.

krazykoons:
so comment portrays a man of lackluster intelligence. so shut up

Realman87:
There is no need educating you. The issue at hand is about politics, not security of citizens. Ethnic clashes isn't peculiar to Nigeria. India, Bangladesh, Yugoslavia, rwanda all suffer ethnic riots. But what we are discussing here is politics. Every nation has its founding fathers and in Nigeria, zik is our founding father. Working as a 'nationalist' to free nigeria from colonialists, he fulfilled his divine assignment. Mind you, he was wise enough to see the devil in Awolowo and he avoided him like a plague. he preferred working with the north than with the awo devil. And Zik died a fulfilled man. He was buried like a Nationalist. But Awo drank rat poison. the greatest yoruba man committed suicide by drinking rat poison. What would make a man think of drinking rat poison. I will tell you. Awo hands are stained with the blood of millions of starved children. Awo was used by the north during the civil war, hoping to become president thereafter; but he was dumped. he never recovered from the shock of being used by illetrate herdsmen. Lastly, his last attempt at insurrection against ibb was exposed by a fellow yoruba betrayer. In frustration, he drank otapiapia. Lol. Great men don't die like that. Never.

Marcelini:
Stop beating around the Bush. Show Me a single colonial document were the British gave the regions freedom to secession or forever take you cheap propaganda to your Ewedu and Amala beer parlours.

Yorubas were too scared to declare secession and independence from the Nigerian union, because the British never made room from that, and you want lay your own cowardice at the feet of Zik and expect nwafors to let you go Scot free, you must be sleeping on top of bicycle, better wake up.

I am still waiting for your evidence, invite your co travellers, if you can't, let them come and help you out.

Realman87:
There is no need educating you. The issue at hand is about politics, not security of citizens. Ethnic clashes isn't peculiar to Nigeria. India, Bangladesh, Yugoslavia, rwanda all suffer ethnic riots. But what we are discussing here is politics. Every nation has its founding fathers and in Nigeria, zik is our founding father. Working as a 'nationalist' to free nigeria from colonialists, he fulfilled his divine assignment. Mind you, he was wise enough to see the devil in Awolowo and he avoided him like a plague. he preferred working with the north than with the awo devil. And Zik died a fulfilled man. He was buried like a Nationalist. But Awo drank rat poison. the greatest yoruba man committed suicide by drinking rat poison. What would make a man think of drinking rat poison. I will tell you. Awo hands are stained with the blood of millions of starved children. Awo was used by the north during the civil war, hoping to become president thereafter; but he was dumped. he never recovered from the shock of being used by illetrate herdsmen. Lastly, his last attempt at insurrection against ibb was exposed by a fellow yoruba betrayer. In frustration, he drank otapiapia. Lol. Great men don't die like that. Never.

HungerBAD:
So this your comment about Awolowo got me curious.

The reason I put this post is for educational purposes,it is not your usual Nairaland kind of thread.

Those I expect to see here,are those I know are intellectually balanced and so far I have not been disappointed.

Good arguments for and against the Oba's action. I am not Ibo or Yoruba,so not on any particular side.

My question to you,and this is purely for Academic purpose,Is why did you say Awolowo died by Rat poisoning? Was he really poisoned?row did you arrive at that conclusion?

Or are you joking?

krazykoons:
you don't sound like a man capable of educating his mind talkless of others.
what is politics when its excludes the people, dude you sound dumb, was man created for politics or politics instituted for man(including his safety).
like duh! awolowo drinking poison cliche is stale come up with something better next time.
need I remind you,ojukwu later came back to contest under an Hausa Fulani party formed by his trustworthy friends that killed his 3million of people.
now that's what betraying his innocent tribesmen means.

Realman87:
My dear, am not joking. Awo committed suicide by drinking otapiapia. FACT. He was planning a large scale insurrection against IBB's govt. the recorded details was leaked to IBB by a yoruba betrayer. Awo was invited by IBB and showed the video of the meetion. Lol. Another treason charge loading befrore his face, by IBB the evil genius. IBB would have decimated the yoruba hero. His two options were to escape to exile or kill himself b4 IBB kills him. And he chose the later option. forget the yoruba double speak, awo introduced tribalism and hate in nigeria's politics. If Yoruba people casted their votes for zik, why should awo use tribe to upturn it. That is the beginning of tribalism. He started hate by his wicked policies after the civil war. Lol, I am not igbo but I heard the unbiased story. Suicide was the surest way to end his miserable life.

HungerBAD:
So this your comment about Awolowo got me curious.

The reason I put this posting Nairaland is for educational purposes,it is not your usual Nairaland kind of thread.

Those I expect to see here,are those I know are intellectually balanced and so far I have not been disappointed.

Good arguments for and against the Oba's action. I am not Ibo or Yoruba,so not on any particular side.

My question to you,and this is purely for Academic purpose,Is why did you say Awolowo died by Rat poisoning? Was he really poisoned?row did you arrive at that conclusion?

Or are you joking?

Realman87:
My dear, am not joking. Awo committed suicide by drinking otapiapia. FACT. He was planning a large scale insurrection against IBB's govt. the recorded details was leaked to IBB by a yoruba betrayer. Awo was invited by IBB and showed the video of the meetion. Lol. Another treason charge loading befrore his face, by IBB the evil genius. IBB would have decimated the yoruba hero. His two options were to escape to exile or kill himself b4 IBB kills him. And he chose the later option. forget the yoruba double speak, awo introduced tribalism and hate in nigeria's politics. If Yoruba people casted their votes for zik, why should awo use tribe to upturn it. That is the beginning of tribalism. He started hate by his wicked policies after the civil war. Lol, I am not igbo but I heard the unbiased story. Suicide was the surest way to end his miserable life.

Realman87:
Idiot. Don't mingle everything. You are talking with a Scholar, not a half baked UniOsun graduate. At that time, Nigeria was just being born. Security of citizens could have been assured by political underatanding, if we had gotten it right. thus political understanding was the first step and zik was working towards that before events .... And Awo killed 3million people not the fulanis'. No great man dies by drinking rat poison. Fool.

krazykoons:
awo introduced tribalism into Nigeria because he vigorously campaigned against an outsider coming to rule a region different from his ,when your greedy zik left his eastern region to preside over the west,while didn't he do that in the north the region of his birth.if he was so righteous why did he send away the already elected man governing the Eastern region.
awo was tribalistic yet he supported ikoli over a fellow Yoruba man.
lol your life must be bitter without lies

Realman87:
You are an illitrate. and this is my last response to you. The yoruba people voted for zik. Again, yorubas voted for the outsider, what is Awo's problem with that when his own people had voted. At that time, a Hausa man was mayor of Enugu and an Efik man was in charge of the East. Nobody complained until Awo started. It was when awo upturned everything that zik returned to the East to chase the Efik man. That is how the Yoruba hero started tribalism. Oh, Nigeria would have been better if everyone would aspire to achieve his goals irrespective of state of origin. Goodbye.

krazykoons:
ncnc won majority votes in the Eastern Region,Action Group (AG) won a plurality of the votes in the west, its prospects were uncertain as the NCNC could have won if it had been able to persuade the third party, which was an Ibadan(I simply don't know how an Ibadan party won't vote for awo)community party.
let me tell you more of Dr zik cowardice and wavering faith at the command of his Fulani friends
During the Biafran war zik became a spokesman for the republic and an adviser to its leader,Ojukwu, before switching allegiance back to Nigeria.
what a perfect way to end an as$licking career.

Realman87:
Go away joor. Yorubas voted and Zik won the election in the west, awo upturned it using tribalism and you are here saying rubbish. Even educated yorubas admit that awo goofed. Go and sleep. In your next life, do not come as a yoruba man. Its a pathetic tribe. Good night.

CltrAltDel:
I just had to quote this for future reference…… love it

omenka:
Na which kind english una dey speak for this forum sometimes?? Haba. The word is "renege" and not renegade. Renegade is a noun synonymous to "fugitive", renege is a verb. Make una dey try small abeg.