HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

which planet are u 4rm. Got no tym 2 waste,jxt google this Abuja declaration 1989. Though it has been edictd secretly bt google it and open ur eyes.

These so called christian elders are the one dividing the country along religious line for their own selfish end because they want to continue riding on the best cars and flying in expensive private jets, gone were the days when Muslim elder chairs christian occasions and vice versa I am a Muslim and my wife is a Christian and we have never had any issue along religious line so these people should go and have something else to do and stop destroying the country along religious line.

Luckylife:
May God Almighty forgive you and your kind for supporting evil because of politics, did the president include Nigeria in Islamic countries fighting boko haram ? You should be very ashamed of your self for believe someone that said there are no elders in the bible . If your answer is yes I leave you and your kinds in God hand .Do you believe these Christian groups can have secret information than me and you . Islamabad ! Beheaded is their second nature !

The elders should also go meet the avengers and tell them what they 're doing is wrong also tell church members to repent,what information do they have that other noteable men of God don't have?All those groups who have they help around their community? I can call many pastors who have impacted on people's lives positively or are they now fighting for God? Elders that will close their eyes to evil around them an make noise when it is PMB . You must be joking if you think they 're the only ones who have privy info. What's islamation of a country,you will be forced to convert to Islam,when Gej a seemingly christain was there no one came up to shout he was trying to christanize Nigeria. Everytime you want to islamize Nigeria,the Jesus I know and serve will fight for himself not some political elders.

You are still leaving in a fool paradise , go read how turkey that was 95% Christians was converted to Muslims. Islam only means of conversion is politics and force . These are elders of the church not politicians or securities paid to fight militant but don't touch fulanis herdsmen raping, and killing innocent victims. Don't quote me again if you are insensitive.

henryhemon:


The elders should also go meet the avengers and tell them what they 're doing is wrong also tell church members to repent,what information do they have that other noteable men of God don't have?All those groups who have they help around their community? I can call many pastors who have impacted on people's lives positively or are they now fighting for God? Elders that will close their eyes to evil around them an make noise when it is PMB . You must be joking if you think they 're the only ones who have privy info. What's islamation of a country,you will be forced to convert to Islam,when Gej a seemingly christain was there no one came up to shout he was trying to christanize Nigeria. Everytime you want to islamize Nigeria,the Jesus I know and serve will fight for himself not some political elders.

henryhemon:



What are you saying? He doesn't also have other christains in his cabinet? Has he forced you to stop being a christain? People just say things without an iota of thinking? What even make one a christain? He prayed with Anglican bishops yesterday,his friend is the arch bishop of Canterbury and folks who don't even go to church or practice true chritainity are suddenly christains cuz they heard buhari's name.

Do you agree that tribalism and religion are two most likely issues to tear up a country. As a secular state, those in leadership should do well always to protect the secularism by spoken words and action. The President may have Christian friends, it does not matter, I also have Muslim friends (mostly westerners ) but we avoid deep religious discussion for reason I don't want to go into. We just have mutual respect for our moral believes. Buhari past comments has always supported sharia system across the country. and as the president, his silence on certain national issues could be taken as supportive. Do you think having two different justice system in Nigeria, will bring about the desired life improvement or add up to the already heated environment and confusion. It is not about Buhari, it is about protecting Nigeria, if Nigeria is what we want. It is just my thought, yours may be different. God bless the people of Nigeria

Luckylife:
You are still leaving in a fool paradise , go read how turkey that was 95% Christians was converted to Muslims. Islam only means of conversion is politics and force . These are elders of the church not politicians or securities paid to fight militant but don't touch fulanis herdsmen raping, and killing innocent victims. Don't quote me again if you are insensitive.

I don't argue with folks like you if you are a true christain like you claim to be......You will know how impossible it is for anyone to islamize Nigeria. My last advise is be open minded in life do not let Sentiments hinder you from great things of life. All those things are propaganda elders my foot. If i see my pastor there I would have believed him but my pastor even pray for the president and clowns come here to make noise.

3Ceagle:


Do you agree that tribalism and religion are two most likely issues to tear up a country. As a secular state, those in leadership should do well always to protect the secularism by spoken words and action. The President may have Christian friends, it does not matter, I also have Muslim friends (mostly westerners ) but we avoid deep religious discussion for reason I don't want to go into. We just have mutual respect for our moral believes. Buhari past comments has always supported sharia system across the country. and as the president, his silence on certain national issues could be taken as supportive. Do you think having two different justice system in Nigeria, will bring about the desired life improvement or add up to the already heated environment and confusion. It is not about Buhari, it is about protecting Nigeria, if Nigeria is what we want. It is just my thought, yours may be different. God bless the people of Nigeria

I agree with you in the past he had made comments suggesting so and am not saying he can't go wrong am just against people who just probably went to CAC to register names and mislead people. If they have facts good not just making assertions that are non existent.

IbnIslam:
another senseless post

Islam...if you think am here to argue with you. ..u already failed.I know ur type

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

. You think you are a christian by merely claiming to be one or by just attending a church or bearing christian name. You are absolutely not a christian.

No wonder you reason like almajiris that believe anything said by their malams even if they are send to kill infidals . So you believe everything said by your pastor without use the senses and Holy bible God have freely given to the world. Keep on taking every worlds from your pastor like God words on your own peril. I doubt you are a true Christian because true Christian don't base his believe on pastor but on every words spoken through the Holy bible.

henryhemon:


I don't argue with folks like you if you are a true christain like you claim to be......You will know how impossible it is for anyone to islamize Nigeria. My last advise is be open minded in life do not let Sentiments hinder you from great things of life. All those things are propaganda elders my foot. If i see my pastor there I would have believed him but my pastor even pray for the president and clowns come here to make noise.

Each time I heard this set of word of "Islamizing Nigeria" I know a fanatic is not far from me.....



Am a Christian but Bleep all you, jobless elder, Elder my foot...

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

Dont know what your talking about. I think those elders know more than you. Or are you an insider?

Christians couldn't have ignored issue raised from the observation if it is only one Christian that raised the issue, but according to the Bible, truth can be established by 2 or more witnesses. They are not even 2 or 3 who have seen how things are been maneuvered to secretly introduce and enforce an agenda that would definitely plagued the country sooner or later. These groups of believers can't be wrong!


When similar agenda started during the tenure of OBJ it was tactically defended but somehow and later the resultant evil was unveiled and thousands of people were consumed in the process.

@ Hungerbad and many like you who are ignorant of sensitive issues and waiting for the underlined evil to boomerang again need to grow up and see things beyond your shortsighted eyes. Again you are ignorant if you don't know the the roles of ELDERS in the Bible.
You are either a pretender or liar.

Luckylife:
No wonder you reason like almajiris that believe anything said by their malams even if they are send to kill infidals . So you believe everything said by your pastor without use the senses and Holy bible God have freely given to the world. Keep on taking every worlds from your pastor like God words on your own peril. I doubt you are a true Christian because true Christian don't base his believe on pastor but on every words spoken through the Holy bible.

Responding to you is waste of MB and space.

greatgod2012:
Islamizing Nigeria is almost impossible, if he wanted to do that, he wouldn't allow a pastor to be his running mate.

Vice president position is irrelevant. Why will a deputy governor fight to bcome a governor,deputy or vice na only to chop money nd posses respect from locals

2019 at the corner they have started their propaganda again.....who was in power when the 1999 constitution was passed?

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

You are a very insensitive Christian. You are not spiritually alert in any way. If you were, you would have known that there are underground battles being fought in the Islamic world to take over Nigeria as the centre of Islamic affairs in Africa. Billions of dollars have been released from the middle east for that singular purpose.

These are the leadership of 14 different groups who have concrete information and evidences about several hidden things happening in Nigeria, but you are here rationalising what you don't understand. That's how the people of Turkey kept rationalising, until they were overrun by Islam. Today, Turkey which was one of the first Christian regions of the world has become a complete Islamic nation.

It's obvious you know little to nothing about the church since you aren't aware that there are countless places where the Bible mentions elders. They are littered in the Books of Acts, 1 Timothy, Titus, James, 1 Peter etc. If you have a mobile Bible, juts search for elders and see if you won't have over 30 results.

I don't blame you though. You're a Yoruba who also happens to be an APC sympathiser. There's no way you will see anything wrong with your 'messiah' Buhari, but I will only ask you to wake up spiritually, if you are indeed a Christian.

If only all you christian nairalanders that are commenting insensitively were resident christians in the middle belt and north an have seen the plans the hausa-fulanis have against christianity and the church and the matyrdom we are facing, then you would be sorry and curse yourselves for ever making such comment. A typical muslim doesn't care whether his fellow brother is doing right or wrong as far as it is for the benefit of islam its a ride on.
Christians from the south west and perhaps south east and south-south have quite different ways of thinking as enviroment have created a blind scarf over our their eyes, so when a northern christian speaks about things of this nature just like I am doing you then see us as religion fanatics.
We are in grief wishing our brethren in the south could open their eyes and see the truth, the truth can't get any less bitter. If the christian elders are doing this just to paint buhari black I don't know, but as for the content of their alligations and from experience from my environment( the north) I would dare the devil that it is coming just like the apocalypse it might not be now but it will surely come.
My brethren don't attempt to draw your swords when you are six feet deep, cos it might be too late.
Shine your eyes.

dre11:


Members of the coalition are NCEF, Nigerian Christian Graduate Fellowship (NCGF), Think Tank for the body of Christ(TTBC), Christian Lawyers Fellowship of Nigeria (CLASFON), Association of Christian Schools in Nigeria(ACSIN), Students Christian Movement(SCM), Christian Professionals Forum (CPF), Intercessors for Nigeria (IFN) and International Prophetic Ministerial Association (Inc. Worldwide College of Bishops and Ministers: Africa, UK and USA).

Others are Intercessors Without Walls (IWW), Wailing Women International (WWI) , Full Gospel Businessmen Fellowship (FGBF), Nigerian Fellowship of Christian Students (NFCS) and University Joint Campus Christian Fellowship (UJCCFF).

How can Buhari satisfy WAILERS?

linusbnn:



Vice president position is irrelevant. Why will a deputy governor fight to bcome a governor,deputy or vice na only to chop money nd posses respect from locals

Since the position of Vice President is irrelevant, you should have allowed Buhari to choose a Muslim as his running mate then.

AdaNri1:
he is a paid goon, pay him no attention. If you scroll through his post you'll see. He can call water kerosene for his paymasters.

I can't find my comment again oh.

The only thing wey remain na to share Quran and send all of us to quranic school

greatgod2012:
Islamizing Nigeria is almost impossible, if he wanted to do that, he wouldn't allow a pastor to be his running mate.

May God bless you. May you have peace in your life.



Imagine Osibanjo, a lawyer (SAN), a pastor, elder state man. Would be there looking waiting for PMB to Islamatise him.




I pity some pretty dumb chronic Nigerians. We are very cheap for manipulation.




Please let talk about harsh economic conditions, not this, with due respect, nonsense.


People are suffering in this country for God sake. Some are dying, living in poverty yet our so called leaders who suppose to pilot our affairs, are busy doing something else.


May God save us.

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

You did not address the issue of the constitution that they raised.

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

Please, understand facts before you cast aspersions or judge. Don't criticise for criticism sake.

By the time that section of the Constitution (CFRN 1999) is amended, here are the implications:

1.) All persons within the jurisdiction where Sharia law is applicable will be subject automatically to Sharia laws. For instance, a person who commits adultery in the FCT (if the proposed bill eventually includes FCT) will be punished according to Sharia laws not the Penal Code.

2.) Some acts which are treated as mere sins in Christianity will be criminalised under the Sharia.
For instance, under Islam, blasphemy against Mohammed or Allah will attract death sentence but under Christianity nobody kills you for blaspheming against Christ/God. So, the moment that bill is passed into law & you as a Christian live in any of the Sharia jurisdictions, you become subject automatically to the law. There are other instances apart from blasphemy.

3.) Christians and persons of other religious extraction other than Islam in those areas will not enjoy much of their constitutional rights.

The Christian elders you whom you have categorically labelled as "
But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness."-- this is too extreme, my brother in Christ. If you follow well my reasonings in points 1 - 3, you'll understand the issues here.

Islamizing the whole Nigeria doesn't only mean or contemplate use of conscription or force against your religious affiliation (Christianity). They may not even force you.

It also means that though nobody may stop you from being a Christian but you may be forced to abide by Sharia laws if you live in parts of Nigeria where the proposed Sharia laws are meant to have effect.

Thank you. UNDERSTAND MY POST CLEARLY. IT IS NOT MEANT TO CONDEMN OR CASTIGATE YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.

daprofo:


Please, understand facts before you cast aspersions or judge. Don't criticise for criticism sake.

By the time that section of the Constitution (CFRN 1999) is amended, here are the implications:

1.) All persons within the jurisdiction where Sharia law is applicable will be subject automatically to Sharia laws. For instance, a person who commits adultery in the FCT (if the proposed bill eventually includes FCT) will be punishes according to Sharia laws not the Penal Code.

2.) Some acts which are treated as mere sins in Christianity will be criminalised under the Sharia.
For instance, under Islam, blasphemy against Mohammed or Allah will attract death sentence but under Christianity nobody kills you for blaspheming against Christ/God. So, the moment that bill is passed into law & you as a Christian live in any of the Sharia jurisdictions, you become subject automatically to the law. There are other instances apart from blasphemy.

3.) Christians and persons of other religious extraction other than Islam in those areas will not enjoy much of their constitutional rights.

Thank you. UNDERSTAND MY POST CLEARLY. IT IS NOT MEANT TO CONDEMN OR CASTIGATE YOU. THIS ACT OF DIATRIBE ON NAIRA LAND BY NIGERIANS IS REACHING A LEVEL OF EXCESSES. GOD BLESS YOU.

the fanatics are not yet satisfied by the blood already shed through same move by boko haram. Almighty God will scatter the plan which is not to pursue his holiness or righteousness, but for political gains putting on religious colouration.

Rexyl:


the fanatics are not yet satisfied by the blood already shed through same move by boko haram. Almighty God will scatter the plan which is not to pursue his holiness or righteousness, but for political gains putting on religious colouration.

Rexyl, your position is obscure. Be a little bit clearer. Thank you & God bless you...

jesse8048:


I can't find my comment again oh.

they blocked it then! Someone has reported you to the 'class monitor'

What an elder sees lying down an infant in a skyscraper cannot visualize. Congrats, you are a Christian.. Lol

HungerBAD:
Exactly what we were complaining about earlier.

Between Christianity and Islam,I actually don't know which is worse. I am a Christian,and I know the bible teaches us not to lie.

But these Christian Elders,are not only lying openly,but are going against the Doctrine of the Bible by bearing false witness.

How did you Elders know he wants to use the back door to Islamize this Country?where in the bible does it even say some Christians are Elders?

You guys trying to give Buhari a bad name by all means.

Jokers.

I stopped reading at "Wailing Women" this must be a joke.

I don't know about the elders issh.... but I believe it's true.. why else are fulani herdsmen being given graZing lands in all states?
or the church in a so rock being closed down? or is it because its not open Abi... everything takes time and go through different paces so you can't see reason now till it happens