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Both! but thier incapacity is more pronouced.

SINCE YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESENT WICKEDNESS CALLED ADMINISTRATION, DE PAINS OF OTHERS WILL SOON REACH YOUR DOOR STEP.

The first time he ruled and made things horrible just as they are now, was he also unlucky then?

CountDracula:
Unlucky
Buhari isn't incapable, anybody who says he is is just displaying their hatred and anger for how thngs turned out, no government wnts to be known as d worst government of all time, but things are not helpin him, look at d many issues on ground, none of dis issues can be labeled as d fault of d administration 100%, wat can a man do?

cococandy:
The first time he ruled and made things horrible just as they are now, was he also unlucky then?

I don't knw abt d 1st time cos I wasn't there, I wasn't alive den, all I heard was people's view of how he governed for as short as it was, I'm talkin abt now

This govt lacks vision. When there is no destination, direction becomes illusive.

CountDracula:
I don't knw abt d 1st time cos I wasn't there, I wasn't alive den, all I heard was people's view of how he governed for as short as it was, I'm talkin abt now

Those who do not pay attention to history make the same mistakes over and over again.

History is important. That you weren't born then means nothing. We can't vote hitler in again (if he were alive) because we weren't born the first time he ruled. Would that mean his past misrule means nothing? No it doesn't.

Buhari caused the initial and on-going brain drain happening in Nigeria now. People ran away from the country in droves because of untold hardship. That was when western visa became like gold. These were countries that were beneath Nigeria economically at that time. He went in and things changed. We haven't recovered from that because it has been a downward spiral since then.

The effects of his first misrule are still being felt yet Nigerians voted him in again because they were blinded with hatred for minority tribes.

If I didn't have loved ones in Nigeria, I would say serves them right. But I do. So I won't.

Remember "Andrew do not check out" advert, it was as a result of Buhari's misrule. Many young graduates and upwards mobile Nigerians left Nigeria in droves. His policies destroyed the vibrant middle class. It got so bad that people were queueing for salt, sugar, etc. Rice, Garri, beans, etc. became luxury, soldiers were going to people's shops to force them to sell things at government controlled prices. As a small boy then, I knew it was tough!!! Though IBB was not the best, but when Buhari was overthrown, there was jubilation across Nigeria. The only other time Nigerians jubilated at the removal or death of Head of State was during the time of Abacha. Incidentally, Buhari was also a key figure in that regime.

During the last elections, the youths were so carried away with Osinbajo change story that they refused to look at who actually was going to be in charge. If Nigerians rejected Buhari for three consecutive elections, you would wonder why they suddenly felt he was the best. Check this, ever since Buhari left office, all he ever did was contest elections. His herds of cattle remained largely 150 for many decades. He never improved himself academically, nor socially. Never presented any papers nor offered any policy statement on national development, except political threats and religious bigotry. He never incorporated any companies nor employed anyone, except the ones employed by government for him as former Head of State. For us to look up to someone with 1961 G4 or Attempted WASC to solve Nigeria's problem in 2016, beats my imagination. The Tinubu's, Amaechi's and Obasanjos felt that they wanted to remain in power hence this mess.

So, to answer you OP, this administration is utterly incompetent. Take for example the manipulation of the forex system and stranglehold on the free market. That action alone killed the economy. Buhari thought that what operated in 1984 when politicians hid dollars in their bedroom still operated in 2015/16. Those who knew him already moved their funds off-shore, so his policy only killed the petty traders. Like someone said, all EFCC is doing is debt collection not fighting any corruption. Those who stole real money are still on the loose and are stealing more. Talk of padded budgets, dichotomy in exchange rates, etc.
People forget that this government was elected on March 29, 2015, by April 1, they already knew they were going to govern. A good leader chose his team before inauguration. Case of Trudeau of Canada, but Buhari took 180 days to present a bunch of recycled "noise makers". Like someone said, point out a technocrat in this government. None. Imagine making Fashola, a lawyer to head 3 Super ministries of Housing, Power and Works. Where do you place the seasoned engineers? He could have made a journalist the minister of Health altogether. What is worse, he appointed a neophyte as Minister of Finance. Being a commissioner is just any qualified accountant's job unlike Finance Minister who make economic policies.
Worst part is that Buhari kept making unguarded and divisive statements and carried on like a dictator. I do not envy those that supported this APC government.
Sincerely many of them would be regretting it. Somehow, it is also good that Buhari won the elections and Jonathan handed over peacefully, if not, by now the saying would have been "IF BUHARI HAD WON, WE WOULD BE ENJOYING ELDORALDO"

There is nothing wrong; things will change.

cococandy:
Those who do not pay attention to history make the same mistakes over and over again.

History is important. That you weren't born then means nothing. We can't vote hitler in again (if he were alive) because we weren't born the first time he ruled. Would that mean his past misrule means nothing? No it doesn't.

Buhari caused the initial and on-going brain drain happening in Nigeria now. People ran away from the country in droves because of untold hardship. That was when western visa became like gold. These were countries that were beneath Nigeria economically at that time. He went in and things changed. We haven't recovered from that because it has been a downward spiral since then.

The effects of his first misrule are still being felt yet Nigerians voted him in again because they were blinded with hatred for minority tribes.

If I didn't have loved ones in Nigeria, I would say serves them right. But I do. So I won't.

Wen u talk abt history u label people, hitler was evil, napoleon was worse, dis and dat, u talk abt the way people reacted to d administration, but d truth is u weren't there, I'm not sayin it didn't happen, I'm sayin u simply heard abt it, history is important but reading abt it doesn't make u a know it all, from d way ure talkin I don't even think ure in nigeria presently, if ure not den dis really isn't urs to talk abt, don't talk as if u understand our pain or some shiit like dat... It doesn't affect u directly, even if u av loved ones here, buhari's past admin was past, they have voted him in now, does it serve us right dat we're in dis predicament, well yeah, dats not d point, d point is whether or not buhari is PRESENTLY incapable or unlucky, and wit d situation on ground and wt I've been seeing in dis generation, its not incompetence... Its not easy to fulfil promises wen there are so many issues on ground and basically zero resources. Wit d way d past admin handled things any next president wud av pretty much been doomed so instead of taking me 2million years into d past and showing me how things were bad den and how things are bad now tell me how anoda admin cud av handled d present better

THE MOST UNBIASED POLITICAL COMMENT I HAVE SEEN ON NAIRALAND SINCE LIKE FOREVER.. Following you right away...

Quakertellicus1:
This present administration was evidently unlucky to come into power when the prices of crude globally have begun to decline drastically. Nigeria as a nation has placed her entire confidence and focus on the oil sector which is now really affecting the economy, making it difficult for the country to maintain a stable economy. We can’t blame this administration for the fall of oil prices, but surely, we could blame the entire government that has ever ruled this nation for not investing enough and assisting vehemently other income earning sectors in the nation. This fall of oil prices has really shaken the nation, the dollar exchange rate to naira is devastating, bringing about a rise in almost all commodities in the market, where even the once very cheap and common commodity, garri, has now become expensive with some families finding it difficult to purchase the commodity.


The elephant in the room is that you Nigerians do not want to make the hard sacrifices needed to get us off oil dependency. And doing that does not take one year....It takes several years of harship...while we spend more in industriies ...and try to find markets for our products...meaning that we have to endure....until our industrial production really takes off.

THE MOST UNBIASED POLITICAL COMMENT I HAVE SEEN ON NAIRALAND SINCE LIKE FOREVER.. Following you right away...

You Nigerians want a resource whose revenues would make you comfortable. Better stop thinking that agric and mining will save us now that oil has failed.....because they are subject to the same price fluctuations as oil. We should industrialse...then we can export something whose price we can controland earn billions.

The tomato issue is also one problem that has caused a nationwide stir and given Nigerians a hard knock, as it is one very vital ingredient in the Nigerian delicacy and cannot be avoided. I haven’t heard any tale or ready any history of tomato causing such a problem in the country like it is now, we never saw it coming, nature played its thing. It can’t be said to be the fault of this administration. It is a situation that caught us all suddenly which was caused by the massive infestation of tomato plantations in the north (been the major supplier of this commodity) by the pest called Tuta Absoluta with the common name Tomato Leafminer. No one certainly can blame this administration for this, although, it could be said that necessary precautionary measures should have been taken by the agricultural sector to avoid such disastrous infestation.

Very true....but the reason why we are not making the pesticides needed for tomato pests....is because we Nigerians prefer to import and import rather than manufacture. Yes...GEJ never had that problem because there was cash to import the pesticides needed thanks to high oil prices. This over importation discourages local production.

That is why APC must make the hard choice and industrialize. But they don't like that the road leads via austerity.

Talking about running the government, this administration has not been up and doing, with things moving from bad to worse, Nigerians groaning everyday, massive sacking in numerous companies, insecurity, employment soaring higher. Looking at the fuel subsidy issue, removing the subsidy was a very good call, but truth be told, its timing was wrong. Removing the subsidy at a time when oil prices had fallen and naira losing its value at an alarming pace, it was not a good call. Though, Yes! The federal government was able to make some money from the removal, yes! The subsidy profiteers have been knocked out, but the time it happened wasn’t a good one. The removal of subsidy brought the price of petrol from N86.5 to N145 which dealt a serious blow to Nigerians, bringing prices of commodities even higher after the dollar price has caused its own effect.

Back in 2012....you people said that the timing was wrong too. re subsidy.

And all the sacking etc.....everything is due to our dependency on oil....which is not cured in a year. GEJ did not do a good job of it...neither did many of our leaders past. We are a resource dependent nation. When the price of our resources are high.....we run AMOK with cash (Gowon's comment in 1974 about Nigeria having too much money to spend comes to mind).When it goes low...cash becomes difficult to spend.

We can stop being resource dependent....but that means a end to awoof cash and corruption which you Nigerians love.


The handling of insecurity another issue that has made this government questionable. We were promised a secured nation, but its a no news anymore about the new threats that have began to ravage the country. The government has not done enough is curbing the situation, it is the responsibility of the government to invite involved parties and have a meaningful dialogue, with each party receiving the same care and attention given to others. I personally am waiting for the moment when we would have a government headed by a personality who gives no preference based on tribes

In other words....you want more people from your tribe in government so that you can chop the crumbs they leave over f rom their looting.

That is not good government. Good government is hard work.....not about how many people you have in office from your tribe..

Boko is on the run, and bombing pipelines does no one any good.



Another thing about I hold against this government has been the rate of travels by the president. No good leader leaves his home unsettled to settle matters abroad and this has put the president into the black book of many. I recollect a time, in a public transport, a man was bitterly expressing his anger at the numerous travels of the president, asking the questions why? What has he achieved with all the travels? Is any help forthcoming from all these travels? As he was expressing himself, fellow commuters joined also expressed their bad feeling about it. The president has been viewed by numerous persons to be lackadaisical about the welfare of the ordinary Nigerian. His recent travel for the treatment of his ear infection has also caused one big stir in the nation and raised questions, but frankly, is this government taking us for granted? Do Nigerians matter at all to these leaders?

When NARD went on strike during GEJ's regime...the resident doctors union that is....you people called them names...and forced them to end the strike. See where we are now? Bad hospitals...and a government that came in with limited funds to take care of them (Which by my calculations ....will exceed N5 TRILLION.).

The only way for our hospitals to earn more money is by privatizing them, and allwing them to increase their fees so that they have the money to pay for improvements. But you Nigerians do not want that......and at the same time you want more hospitals....so govt listens to you....and the amount of money left per hospital is less and less.

I am not defending PMB here by the way. I am saying that for things to get better in Nigeria...it has to get much worse before it gets better....more worse than this. We have to make the transition from being resoruce dependent....to being an innovation driven economy. ...via austerity.

psalmry:
With the current trend of happenings in the country, it has to be painted out if this current administration has been unlucky or they just don’t know how to govern. Things have been really messy, the nation is in a real state of confusion with everyone waiting and hoping for a magic to turn things around for good.

This present administration was evidently unlucky to come into power when the prices of crude globally have begun to decline drastically. Nigeria as a nation has placed her entire confidence and focus on the oil sector which is now really affecting the economy, making it difficult for the country to maintain a stable economy. We can’t blame this administration for the fall of oil prices, but surely, we could blame the entire government that has ever ruled this nation for not investing enough and assisting vehemently other income earning sectors in the nation. This fall of oil prices has really shaken the nation, the dollar exchange rate to naira is devastating, bringing about a rise in almost all commodities in the market, where even the once very cheap and common commodity, garri, has now become expensive with some families finding it difficult to purchase the commodity.

The tomato issue is also one problem that has caused a nationwide stir and given Nigerians a hard knock, as it is one very vital ingredient in the Nigerian delicacy and cannot be avoided. I haven’t heard any tale or ready any history of tomato causing such a problem in the country like it is now, we never saw it coming, nature played its thing. It can’t be said to be the fault of this administration. It is a situation that caught us all suddenly which was caused by the massive infestation of tomato plantations in the north (been the major supplier of this commodity) by the pest called Tuta Absoluta with the common name Tomato Leafminer. No one certainly can blame this administration for this, although, it could be said that necessary precautionary measures should have been taken by the agricultural sector to avoid such disastrous infestation.

Talking about running the government, this administration has not been up and doing, with things moving from bad to worse, Nigerians groaning everyday, massive sacking in numerous companies, insecurity, employment soaring higher. Looking at the fuel subsidy issue, removing the subsidy was a very good call, but truth be told, its timing was wrong. Removing the subsidy at a time when oil prices had fallen and naira losing its value at an alarming pace, it was not a good call. Though, Yes! The federal government was able to make some money from the removal, yes! The subsidy profiteers have been knocked out, but the time it happened wasn’t a good one. The removal of subsidy brought the price of petrol from N86.5 to N145 which dealt a serious blow to Nigerians, bringing prices of commodities even higher after the dollar price has caused its own effect.

The handling of insecurity another issue that has made this government questionable. We were promised a secured nation, but its a no news anymore about the new threats that have began to ravage the country. The government has not done enough is curbing the situation, it is the responsibility of the government to invite involved parties and have a meaningful dialogue, with each party receiving the same care and attention given to others. I personally am waiting for the moment when we would have a government headed by a personality who gives no preference based on tribes.

Another thing about I hold against this government has been the rate of travels by the president. No good leader leaves his home unsettled to settle matters abroad and this has put the president into the black book of many. I recollect a time, in a public transport, a man was bitterly expressing his anger at the numerous travels of the president, asking the questions why? What has he achieved with all the travels? Is any help forthcoming from all these travels? As he was expressing himself, fellow commuters joined also expressed their bad feeling about it. The president has been viewed by numerous persons to be lackadaisical about the welfare of the ordinary Nigerian. His recent travel for the treatment of his ear infection has also caused one big stir in the nation and raised questions, but frankly, is this government taking us for granted? Do Nigerians matter at all to these leaders?

Lots and lots of promises made before the election are yet to be fulfilled, and what the administration could say was “The Mistake We Made Was Talking Too Much During the Campaign”, and one begins to wonder, were they unconscious while making all those promises? What kind of government makes such a statement?
A lot is really bothering this administration, which brings about the question: are they unlucky? Or are they just incapable of governing?

To my fellow nairalanders, whats your response?

I believe that this government is invapable of governing this great country called Nigeria. They are all bunch of losers. It is so unfortunate that we didn't see it coming at all.

Amitex:
Remember "Andrew do not check out" advert, it was as a result of Buhari's misrule. Many young graduates and upwards mobile Nigerians left Nigeria in droves. His policies destroyed the vibrant middle class. It got so bad that people were queueing for salt, sugar, etc. Rice, Garri, beans, etc. became luxury, soldiers were going to people's shops to force them to sell things at government controlled prices. As a small boy then, I knew it was tough!!! Though IBB was not the best, but when Buhari was overthrown, there was jubilation across Nigeria. The only other time Nigerians jubilated at the removal or death of Head of State was during the time of Abacha. Incidentally, Buhari was also a key figure in that regime.

During the last elections, the youths were so carried away with Osinbajo change story that they refused to look at who actually was going to be in charge. If Nigerians rejected Buhari for three consecutive elections, you would wonder why they suddenly felt he was the best. Check this, ever since Buhari left office, all he ever did was contest elections. His herds of cattle remained largely 150 for many decades. He never improved himself academically, nor socially. Never presented any papers nor offered any policy statement on national development, except political threats and religious bigotry. He never incorporated any companies nor employed anyone, except the ones employed by government for him as former Head of State. For us to look up to someone with 1961 G4 or Attempted WASC to solve Nigeria's problem in 2016, beats my imagination. The Tinubu's, Amaechi's and Obasanjos felt that they wanted to remain in power hence this mess.

So, to answer you OP, this administration is utterly incompetent. Take for example the manipulation of the forex system and stranglehold on the free market. That action alone killed the economy. Buhari thought that what operated in 1984 when politicians hid dollars in their bedroom still operated in 2015/16. Those who knew him already moved their funds off-shore, so his policy only killed the petty traders. Like someone said, all EFCC is doing is debt collection not fighting any corruption. Those who stole real money are still on the loose and are stealing more. Talk of padded budgets, dichotomy in exchange rates, etc.
People forget that this government was elected on March 29, 2015, by April 1, they already knew they were going to govern. A good leader chose his team before inauguration. Case of Trudeau of Canada, but Buhari took 180 days to present a bunch of recycled "noise makers". Like someone said, point out a technocrat in this government. None. Imagine making Fashola, a lawyer to head 3 Super ministries of Housing, Power and Works. Where do you place the seasoned engineers? He could have made a journalist the minister of Health altogether. What is worse, he appointed a neophyte as Minister of Finance. Being a commissioner is just any qualified accountant's job unlike Finance Minister who make economic policies.
Worst part is that Buhari kept making unguarded and divisive statements and carried on like a dictator. I do not envy those that supported this APC government.
Sincerely many of them would be regretting it. Somehow, it is also good that Buhari won the elections and Jonathan handed over peacefully, if not, by now the saying would have been "IF BUHARI HAD WON, WE WOULD BE ENJOYING ELDORALDO"

My friend, you just hit the nail on the spot. Well said!!!

psalmry:
With the current trend of happenings in the country, it has to be painted out if this current administration has been unlucky or they just don’t know how to govern. Things have been really messy, the nation is in a real state of confusion with everyone waiting and hoping for a magic to turn things around for good.

This present administration was evidently unlucky to come into power when the prices of crude globally have begun to decline drastically. Nigeria as a nation has placed her entire confidence and focus on the oil sector which is now really affecting the economy, making it difficult for the country to maintain a stable economy. We can’t blame this administration for the fall of oil prices, but surely, we could blame the entire government that has ever ruled this nation for not investing enough and assisting vehemently other income earning sectors in the nation. This fall of oil prices has really shaken the nation, the dollar exchange rate to naira is devastating, bringing about a rise in almost all commodities in the market, where even the once very cheap and common commodity, garri, has now become expensive with some families finding it difficult to purchase the commodity.

The tomato issue is also one problem that has caused a nationwide stir and given Nigerians a hard knock, as it is one very vital ingredient in the Nigerian delicacy and cannot be avoided. I haven’t heard any tale or ready any history of tomato causing such a problem in the country like it is now, we never saw it coming, nature played its thing. It can’t be said to be the fault of this administration. It is a situation that caught us all suddenly which was caused by the massive infestation of tomato plantations in the north (been the major supplier of this commodity) by the pest called Tuta Absoluta with the common name Tomato Leafminer. No one certainly can blame this administration for this, although, it could be said that necessary precautionary measures should have been taken by the agricultural sector to avoid such disastrous infestation.

Talking about running the government, this administration has not been up and doing, with things moving from bad to worse, Nigerians groaning everyday, massive sacking in numerous companies, insecurity, employment soaring higher. Looking at the fuel subsidy issue, removing the subsidy was a very good call, but truth be told, its timing was wrong. Removing the subsidy at a time when oil prices had fallen and naira losing its value at an alarming pace, it was not a good call. Though, Yes! The federal government was able to make some money from the removal, yes! The subsidy profiteers have been knocked out, but the time it happened wasn’t a good one. The removal of subsidy brought the price of petrol from N86.5 to N145 which dealt a serious blow to Nigerians, bringing prices of commodities even higher after the dollar price has caused its own effect.

The handling of insecurity another issue that has made this government questionable. We were promised a secured nation, but its a no news anymore about the new threats that have began to ravage the country. The government has not done enough is curbing the situation, it is the responsibility of the government to invite involved parties and have a meaningful dialogue, with each party receiving the same care and attention given to others. I personally am waiting for the moment when we would have a government headed by a personality who gives no preference based on tribes.

Another thing about I hold against this government has been the rate of travels by the president. No good leader leaves his home unsettled to settle matters abroad and this has put the president into the black book of many. I recollect a time, in a public transport, a man was bitterly expressing his anger at the numerous travels of the president, asking the questions why? What has he achieved with all the travels? Is any help forthcoming from all these travels? As he was expressing himself, fellow commuters joined also expressed their bad feeling about it. The president has been viewed by numerous persons to be lackadaisical about the welfare of the ordinary Nigerian. His recent travel for the treatment of his ear infection has also caused one big stir in the nation and raised questions, but frankly, is this government taking us for granted? Do Nigerians matter at all to these leaders?

Lots and lots of promises made before the election are yet to be fulfilled, and what the administration could say was “The Mistake We Made Was Talking Too Much During the Campaign”, and one begins to wonder, were they unconscious while making all those promises? What kind of government makes such a statement?
A lot is really bothering this administration, which brings about the question: are they unlucky? Or are they just incapable of governing?

To my fellow nairalanders, whats your response?

We're unlucky to have an incapable government.