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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jun 12, 2016
Angola Mig-23 jet

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 1:17pm On Jun 12, 2016
List of some NA generals retired


Maj Gen Mobolaji Koleoso
Maj. General TC Ude
Maj Gen SD Aliyu
Maj Gen LC Ilo
Maj Gen PAT Akem
Maj Gen IN Ijoma
Maj. Gen O Ejimai
Maj Gen ED Atewe
Maj. General Letam Wiwa -Younger brother of murdered Environmental Rights activist and author, Ken Saro-Wiwa
Maj. Gen FO Alli
Maj. General MY Ibrahim
Brigadier Gen D Abdusalam
Brigadier General MG Ali
Brigadier General AI Onibasa
Brigadier Gen. Mustapha Onoyiveta
Brigadier General Bright Fiboinumama
Brigadier General GO Agachi
Brigadier General Okonkwo
Brig Gen Bashir Mormoni
Brig Gen AH Sa’ad -Former ADC to late President
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 1:21pm On Jun 12, 2016
MoreBrig Gen IMD Lawson
Brig Gen Koko Essien
Brig Gen Ogidi
Brig Gen LN Bello
Brig. General PE Ekpeyong
Brig Gen Oyefesobi
Col. Ojogbane Adegbe –ADC to former President Goodluck Jonathan
Col. CK Ukoha
Col. Tonye F Minimah –Younger brother of former Chief of Army Staff, LT. General Kenneth Minimah
Col DR Hassan
Col FD Kayode
Col OU Nwankwo
Col. MA Suleiman
Col. Audu
Col. Nicholas Achinze -Dasuki’s ADC
Lt. Col GC Nyekwu
Lt Col TE Arigbe
Lt. Col C Enechukwu
Lt. Col TO Oladuntoye
Lt. Col CO Amadi
Lt. Col Adimoha
Lt. Col DB Dazang
Lt. Col OC Egemode
Lt. Col Baba Ochankpa
Lt. Col A Mohammed
Lt. Col AS Mohammed
Major TA Williams
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jun 12, 2016
off topic :russia cluster incendiary bomblets

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzBxtvRBWw
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 1:32pm On Jun 12, 2016
jteku:
List of some NA generals retired


Maj Gen Mobolaji Koleoso
Maj. General TC Ude
Maj Gen SD Aliyu
Maj Gen LC Ilo
Maj Gen PAT Akem
Maj Gen IN Ijoma
Maj. Gen O Ejimai
Maj Gen ED Atewe
Maj. General Letam Wiwa -Younger brother of murdered Environmental Rights activist and author, Ken Saro-Wiwa
Maj. Gen FO Alli
Maj. General MY Ibrahim
Brigadier Gen D Abdusalam
Brigadier General MG Ali
Brigadier General AI Onibasa
Brigadier Gen. Mustapha Onoyiveta
Brigadier General Bright Fiboinumama
Brigadier General GO Agachi
Brigadier General Okonkwo
Brig Gen Bashir Mormoni
Brig Gen AH Sa’ad -Former ADC to late President

Unbelievable.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jun 12, 2016
MikeCZA:
Unbelievable.
Nigeria for you sir

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:33pm On Jun 12, 2016
africaken254:
off topic :russia cluster incendiary bomblets

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzBxtvRBWw
shockedshockedshockedshocked Is this an Alien invasion, wow!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jun 12, 2016
africaken254:
off topic :russia cluster incendiary bomblets

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzBxtvRBWw

Most times i read comments/articles from westerners describing the Russian military as inefficient, archaic...... I just laugh. "Is it this same Russian military the world is seeing in Syria or am i looking at a different military?".



The Russians are so efficient, and the speed with which they've routed the enemy(s) is unprecedented.


When they say indiscriminate bombing, a word they so often use, i begin to wonder whether war is supposed to be pretty or a Hot-dog competition.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:53pm On Jun 12, 2016
Henry240:


Most times i read comments/articles from westerners describing the Russian military as inefficient, archaic...... I just laugh. "Is it this same Russian military the world is seeing in Syria or am i looking at a different military?".



The Russians are so efficient, and the speed with which they've routed the enemy(s) is unprecedented.


When they say indiscriminate bombing, a word they so often use, i begin to wonder whether war is supposed to be pretty or a Hot-dog competition.

Russian military is inefficient in comparison to NATO


When America invaded Kuwait and Southern Iraq, they killed 35,000 Iraqis and wounded another 60,000 in so doing they smashed over 30 Iraqi divisions... for the loss of 200 men. They destroyed 4000 (98% of) Iraqi tanks for the loss of 4, 2000 artillery peices for the loss of 1, 1800 APC's for the loss of 9, 240 aircraft for the loss of 44.

No one else on earth can do that.

With regards to the NATO bombing campaign, they are only half halfheartedly bombing - just compare the number of sorties.

Not wanting to kill civilians is how civilized people fight. Dropping White Phosphorus on a city is inefficient and archaic by definition.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jun 12, 2016
patches689:


Russian military is inefficient in comparison to NATO


When America invaded Kuwait and Southern Iraq, they killed 35,000 Iraqis and wounded another 60,000 in so doing they smashed over 30 Iraqi divisions... for the loss of 200 men. They destroyed 4000 (98% of) Iraqi tanks for the loss of 4, 2000 artillery peices for the loss of 1, 1800 APC's for the loss of 9, 240 aircraft for the loss of 44.

No one else on earth can do that.

With regards to the NATO bombing campaign, they are only half halfheartedly bombing - just compare the number of sorties.

Not wanting to kill civilians is how civilized people fight. Dropping White Phosphorus on a city is inefficient and archaic by definition.
smart weapons are the future,russia most relies on it immense strength and if it does invest on this smart technology weaponry.it will loose new emerging powers

@henry 240 you can also consider buying turkey Aselsan ASELPOD Advanced Targeting,it has quiet extraordinary capabilities

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmy-eTWmznc
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:13pm On Jun 12, 2016
africaken254:
smart weapons are the future,russia most relies on it immense strength and if it does invest on this smart technology weaponry.it will loose new emerging powers

@henry 240 you can also consider buying turkey Aselsan ASELPOD Advanced Targeting,it has quiet extraordinary capabilities

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmy-eTWmznc

Its just the way the Russians fight.

It works for them, no one can deny Russian firepower - just look at the ammount of MRLS and artillery attached to a division in comparison to a NATO one.

But in terms of precision and efficiency, as well as safety and minimization of collateral damage, no one comes close to the major NATO members.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 6:31pm On Jun 12, 2016
some sayings Aselsan ASELPOD stuck by some US controlled parts. so it's still under development
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Iblawi1: 6:41pm On Jun 12, 2016
patches689:


Its just the way the Russians fight.

It works for them, no one can deny Russian firepower - just look at the ammount of MRLS and artillery attached to a division in comparison to a NATO one.

But in terms of precision and efficiency, as well as safety and minimization of collateral damage, no one comes close to the major NATO members.
Libya says a lot.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 7:27pm On Jun 12, 2016
africaken254:
off topic :russia cluster incendiary bomblets

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCzBxtvRBWw

That's a white phosphorus not cluster bomb
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 7:52pm On Jun 12, 2016
This is for my gullible friend Africaken

https://videopress.com/v/SgTSvLlt
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jun 12, 2016
patches689:


Russian military is inefficient in comparison to NATO


When America invaded Kuwait and Southern Iraq, they killed 35,000 Iraqis and wounded another 60,000 in so doing they smashed over 30 Iraqi divisions... for the loss of 200 men. They destroyed 4000 (98% of) Iraqi tanks for the loss of 4, 2000 artillery peices for the loss of 1, 1800 APC's for the loss of 9, 240 aircraft for the loss of 44.

No one else on earth can do that.

With regards to the NATO bombing campaign, they are only half halfheartedly bombing - just compare the number of sorties.

Not wanting to kill civilians is how civilized people fight. Dropping White Phosphorus on a city is inefficient and archaic by definition.

You should at-least have the decency to quit been deliberately mischievous.


The U.S alone represents 70% of NATO, Germany a "strong" member of NATO only has 36 Combat ready fighter planes in it's entire fleet.

According to a US military inclined Think-Thank, the Russians would only need 3 days to take over Eastern Europe completely. How is that for inefficiency?


In the Gulf war you are so quick to distort, the Coalition forces were numerical advantaged over the Iraqis in every area.

Coalition forces

Kuwait
United States
Saudi Arabia
United Kingdom
France
Egypt
Syria
Morocco
Oman
Pakistan
Canada
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Bangladesh
Italy
Australia
Netherlands
Niger
Sweden
Argentina
Senegal
Spain
Luxembourg
Bahrain
Belgium
Sierra Leone
Poland
Philippines
South Korea
Czechoslovakia
Greece
Turkey
Denmark[1]
New Zealand
Hungary
Norway
Afghanistan



40 countries against Iraq.


956,600, including 700,000 U.S. troops against 650,000 Iraqi soldiers


US troops alone outnumbered the Iraqis.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:28pm On Jun 12, 2016
patches689:


Russian military is inefficient in comparison to NATO


When America invaded Kuwait and Southern Iraq, they killed 35,000 Iraqis and wounded another 60,000 in so doing they smashed over 30 Iraqi divisions... for the loss of 200 men. They destroyed 4000 (98% of) Iraqi tanks for the loss of 4, 2000 artillery peices for the loss of 1, 1800 APC's for the loss of 9, 240 aircraft for the loss of 44.

No one else on earth can do that.

With regards to the NATO bombing campaign, they are only half halfheartedly bombing - just compare the number of sorties.

Not wanting to kill civilians is how civilized people fight. Dropping White Phosphorus on a city is inefficient and archaic by definition.

We are only seeing only a handful of Russian air power, an aircraft here another aircraft there, no ground forces. while the U.S alone has over 160 aircrafts stationed on 2 Aircraft carriers, and bombing flights been carried out from bases in Kuwait, Iraq and Jordan.


No country on the planet, not even the Americans can achieve the successes carried out by a handful(60) Russian aircrafts in Syria. It is unprecedented in human history. Nothing new to the Russians seeing that they have lost only 3 battles in over 1000 years of combat.


War is not a comedy show, people would die in war, it isn't supposed to be pretty.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jun 12, 2016
africaken254:
smart weapons are the future,russia most relies on it immense strength and if it does invest on this smart technology weaponry.it will loose new emerging powers

@henry 240 you can also consider buying turkey Aselsan ASELPOD Advanced Targeting,it has quiet extraordinary capabilities

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmy-eTWmznc

Africaken, you should be more knowledgeable than this, i expect much more from you.

What is Hi-Tech? The Russians have an amazing blend of Digital and Analog equipment. Is there are better counter-measure system for Helos in the market than President-S or firing cruise missiles from the Caspian sea?


The Russians fight with brute force, that's because political correctness doesn't apply in war. They intend to pummel the enemy to submission. When the Russians are coming, the enemy should be afraid.


The Iranians brought down and reversed a "smart" "stealth" US drone. So much for smart technology.


The Turks are doing well, they got some smart people doing a lot of great things in their defence industry.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 2:03am On Jun 13, 2016
Stupid Americans, last week they were busy yapping about potential Terrorist attacks in S.A , but they are the ones who end up being attack... It's an ironic sense of justice.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 4:51am On Jun 13, 2016
Centrifude:
Stupid Americans, last week they were busy yapping about potential Terrorist attacks in S.A , but they are the ones who end up being attack... It's an ironic sense of justice.
Just warning you about how their plan.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:50am On Jun 13, 2016
Henry240:


We are only seeing only a handful of Russian air power, an aircraft here another aircraft there, no ground forces. while the U.S alone has over 160 aircrafts stationed on 2 Aircraft carriers, and bombing flights been carried out from bases in Kuwait, Iraq and Jordan.


No country on the planet, not even the Americans can achieve the successes carried out by a handful(60) Russian aircrafts in Syria. It is unprecedented in human history. Nothing new to the Russians seeing that they have lost only 3 battles in over 1000 years of combat.


War is not a comedy show, people would die in war, it isn't supposed to be pretty.

Compare the number of sorties , not the number of planes

Russia lost 3 battles in a 1000 years? Dude, since the 1850s Russia has lost:

-Crimean War
-Russo-Japanese
- Finnish Civil War
- Latvian War of Independence
- Estonian War of Independence
- Lithuanian-Soviet War
- Georgian-Ossetian Conflict
- Polish Civil War
- Spanish Civil War
- Soviet-Afghan War
- First Chechen War

And lets not forget they lost WW1 as well

Modern armies minimize civilian casualties, it is the mark of an efficient and professional force.

But please, tell us more about how using area-effect weapons on a city is "efficient"

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:52am On Jun 13, 2016
Henry240:


You should at-least have the decency to quit been deliberately mischievous.


The U.S alone represents 70% of NATO, Germany a "strong" member of NATO only has 36 Combat ready fighter planes in it's entire fleet.

According to a US military inclined Think-Thank, the Russians would only need 3 days to take over Eastern Europe completely. How is that for inefficiency?


In the Gulf war you are so quick to distort, the Coalition forces were numerical advantaged over the Iraqis in every area.

Coalition forces

Kuwait
United States
Saudi Arabia
United Kingdom
France
Egypt
Syria
Morocco
Oman
Pakistan
Canada
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Bangladesh
Italy
Australia
Netherlands
Niger
Sweden
Argentina
Senegal
Spain
Luxembourg
Bahrain
Belgium
Sierra Leone
Poland
Philippines
South Korea
Czechoslovakia
Greece
Turkey
Denmark[1]
New Zealand
Hungary
Norway
Afghanistan



40 countries against Iraq.


956,600, including 700,000 U.S. troops against 650,000 Iraqi soldiers


US troops alone outnumbered the Iraqis.

And how does this change the facts?

Russians outbumbered the Chechens in the 1st Chechen war and got absolutely thrashed

And no, Germany has not been a "strong" member since the late 1980s. England, France, Spain, Italy, Turkey and Poland are the "strong" members.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:54am On Jun 13, 2016
Henry240:


Africaken, you should be more knowledgeable than this, i expect much more from you.

What is Hi-Tech? The Russians have an amazing blend of Digital and Analog equipment. Is there are better counter-measure system for Helos in the market than President-S or firing cruise missiles from the Caspian sea?


The Russians fight with brute force, that's because political correctness doesn't apply in war. They intend to pummel the enemy to submission. When the Russians are coming, the enemy should be afraid.


The Iranians brought down and reversed a "smart" "stealth" US drone. So much for smart technology.


The Turks are doing well, they got some smart people doing a lot of great things in their defence industry.

Whats better than firing a cruise missile from the caspian sea? A USN boomer (nuke sub) with over 150 cruisemissiles sitting undetected in the med.

Its not "political correctness" is human rights. Again, it is the mark of the way civilized people conduct war.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by upko1: 5:56am On Jun 13, 2016
Centrifude:
Stupid Americans, last week they were busy yapping about potential Terrorist attacks in S.A , but they are the ones who end up being attack... It's an ironic sense of justice.
Terror is no joke, your post is insensitive.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 6:19am On Jun 13, 2016
upko1:

Terror is no joke, your post is insensitive.

No it's not, "innocent" Americans have always indirectly but consciously contributed to the destabilisation and destruction of other countries, and the creation of terror group. Fact is this is nothing compared to what actual Innocent civilians experience in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:13am On Jun 13, 2016
patches689:


Compare the number of sorties , not the number of planes

Russia lost 3 battles in a 1000 years? Dude, since the 1850s Russia has lost:

-Crimean War
-Russo-Japanese
- Finnish Civil War
- Latvian War of Independence
- Estonian War of Independence
- Lithuanian-Soviet War
- Georgian-Ossetian Conflict
- Polish Civil War
- Spanish Civil War
- Soviet-Afghan War
- First Chechen War

And lets not forget they lost WW1 as well

Modern armies minimize civilian casualties, it is the mark of an efficient and professional force.

But please, tell us more about how using area-effect weapons on a city is "efficient"

"Between 1700 and 1940 Russia/USSR fought in 34 wars and won 31 and in 392 battle and won 279. We could say that Russia won 91% of her wars and 71% of her battles. Russia's opponents included: Swedes, French, Germans, Turks, Poles, Tatars, Finns, Caucasians, Japanese, Chinese, Austrians, Hungarians, British, Italians and Central Asians."


Here are the 3 wars it lost
I would just add that Crimea was fought against what I call a "great ecumenical coalition" (including Anglican British, the Latin French and the Muslim Turks) which outnumbered the Russians by over 200'000 people (there was almost a MILLION "ecumenical attackers" for just over 700'00 Russian defenders. But yes, Russia did lose this one. ( WHo runs Crimea today ? Mind you Crimean penisular was taken back long time ago after the British, Ottoman and French controlled it, the Soviet empire took it back and was later illegally transfered to Ukraine Soviet)

Today, who runs Crimea ?

The Russian War against Japan
Did Russia lose the war against Japan? I would argue that the Russian Fleet sure was defeated by the Japanese Navy, but Japanese historians have a very different view of what happened and consider that Japan's military was spent by the time the peace treaty was drafted (by the Russian side, by the way) and that Japan had been forced to accept very bad terms. At the very least, I would call this one a draw.

The 3rd being RUssian Polish war
As for the Russian-Polish war, yes, the Soviet's lost this one badly. But look at the kind of Soviet Union we had in 1920: a country in the midst of a civil war, with many uprising taking place, with a "worker-farmer" "army" with no real officers and let by clueless commissars. So while the outcome was a defeat, the circumstances of that defeat are, I think, so unique as to be irrelevant.

But whatever the fine print and different views of the significance of individual outcomes, I think that these figures strongly suggest that attacking Russia is an exceedingly bad idea, even when only conventional wars are considered. Attacking Russia while she has the powerful nuclear arsenal on the planet is utter lunacy.

Let's hope that this short reminder will reach at least one of the crazies who think that playing a game of chicken with Russia is a sound policy and that the Russians will "blink first" impressed by the US/NATO military prowess.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:04am On Jun 13, 2016
patches689:


And how does this change the facts?

Russians outbumbered the Chechens in the 1st Chechen war and got absolutely thrashed

And no, Germany has not been a "strong" member since the late 1980s. England, France, Spain, Italy, Turkey and Poland are the "strong" members.



"How does the numerical advantage in both men and equipment of a military Super-power over a third world foe change the facts of the battle?"............. Wow, is this really a question that needs answering..... Really absurd.


Germany has a fighter fleet of over 300 aircrafts. They are a Strong NATO member, a strong NATO member that has only 36 combat ready jets.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by upko1: 8:33am On Jun 13, 2016
Centrifude:


No it's not, "innocent" Americans have always indirectly but consciously contributed to the destabilisation and destruction of other countries, and the creation of terror group. Fact is this is nothing compared to what actual Innocent civilians experience in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya.
Kindly let me know how please.

Sad Islamic forks just rounded up innocent fun lovers and slaughtered them in their numbers.
How is this different from the middle east?

Is it because there's no Suicide vest, VBIED, RPG, IEDs, PKMs??

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sczeska: 8:48am On Jun 13, 2016
Centrifude:


No it's not, "innocent" Americans have always indirectly but consciously contributed to the destabilisation and destruction of other countries, and the creation of terror group. Fact is this is nothing compared to what actual Innocent civilians experience in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya.
What you just typed up here is equal to the terror attack was well deserved because it happened on American soil.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 9:10am On Jun 13, 2016
sczeska:

What you just typed up here is equal to the terror attack was well deserved because it happened on American soil.

I'm not saying they deserve it, but it will stop Americans from living oblivious lives believe that they can mess with the world and not pay for it.

The Butterfly effect.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by upko1: 9:11am On Jun 13, 2016
sczeska:

What you just typed up here is equal to the terror attack was well deserved because it happened on American soil.
Exactly!!! I hate most American foreign policies and poke nosing, but innocent lives should not be cut short.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sczeska: 9:16am On Jun 13, 2016
Centrifude:


I'm not saying they deserve it, but it will stop Americans from living oblivious lives believe that they can mess with the world and not pay for it.

The Butterfly effect.

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