₦airaland Forum

babadee1:
Please quote the international law statutes that you're referring to. As far as I know every country makes the laws that governs the ownership of properties and businesses within its own borders. That is not the purview of international law which general deals with issues between countries.

zendy:
Article 17 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights of which Nigeria is a signatory to states:

"(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.


(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property"


Besides this law, there is nothing in the Nigerian constition that gives the Government the right to sieze anyone's property , wether citizen or not, without any just cause. Infact, the only time a Government in a democracy can sieze a property without compensation is if the property was being used for or acquired by crime, under the proceeds of crime act.

bakynes:
One question for you what if Nigeria claim they dont have the monetary equivalent of the biafran properties and wont issue Resident visas to biafrans? What then becomes of such properties? That is why before you acquire a property in britain from another country of birth, you must first of all acquire a british citizenship or residency. If you are coming as an investor, govt will give you a waiver to that effect and onces you decide to close down the business/investment and go back to your home country no body will give u any monetary equivalent of your property. Best you can do is to get the property sold before leaving. If biafrans dont get buyers for their properties and refused residency visas, the properties is as good as gone

vicadex07:
why didn't you apply this law when Ijaws seized your properties during the civil war

vicadex07:
why didn't you apply this law when Ijaws seized your properties during the civil war

Expensivewarrio:
These pathetic sons and daughters of FALLEN ANGEL oduduwa still have the time to dwell on igbo matters, while their region is imploding through Muslim versus Christian madness in Osun state. U guys should not wary, 3 to 5yeas from now southwa.ste will go down the drain like northeast.

I love the way the hausa fulanis have infiltrated the file and rank of yoruba politics and politicians, planted their mercenaries and imported the radical and fanatical Islam to southwa.ste. We the Christian republic will be watching from afar while the tinkling time bomb explode.

zendy:
There is one thing to note. Whenever a country secedes from another, there is always a period of negotiations for the "terms of disengagement" that follows. It happened when East Timor left Indonasia. It is during this time that the sharing of assets and liabilities are discussed as well as the status of citizens of old and new countries. Sometimes, the residency status is not an issue like the case of when Czecoslovakia split into Czec Republic and Repubic of Slovakia in 1992, the residency was not a problem because both countries we're immediately admitted into the EU and their citizens gained immediate residency status. It could be that if any group of people in Nigeria left, example if Igbos left as the Republic of Biafra, they might gain almost immediate residency status if Biafra joins ECOWAS. All ECOWAS member states have automatic residency status in any of the 15 countries that make up ECOWAS. But in the case that Biafra does not join ECOWAS and the Nigerian Government decides not to to give the Biafrans residency or even a 'grace period' to liquidate their assets, the Biafrans will have return home with movable assets while the immovable ones such as houses can be handed over estate managers, property Lawyers and so on to manage on their behalf, collect rent or sell on their behalf. However, the disadvantage of Nigeria doing this is that it will give Nigeria a very bad name in the international community and make international investors run away. What these people will think is "If Nigerians can do that to Igbos they used to call brothers, what can they do to me tomorrow as a foreigner?". This will be devastating for the Nigerian economy.

bakynes:
You are wrong abt the automatic residency status, there is visa free access which you will be given time of stay. If there was an auto-matic residency why did the shagari govt come up with the " Ghana must go" campaign. Which property lawyer will collect rent from his fellow country man and send it down to you in another country where is that done except the property manager is a saint. Guy accept the fact i have told you in my last post. Nigeria is not doing anything bad here, is either biafrans apply for Nigerian residency or you remain as Nigerians. Even if Biafran joins Ecowas they can only have visa free access with a limited time of stay. I can assure you Nigeria has the right to choose which biafran they give resident permit/ Citizenship/ Business visa and not every biafran will get one so at the end of it all some biafrans will loose their properties.

zendy:
Because Biafra did not manage to secede in the long run and become recognised by the UN. We are talking about in the "event of secession".

lecther:
so what made Igbo women run mad in Enugu

Expensivewarrio:
Ignorance at its peak......smh

zendy:
Because Biafra did not manage to secede in the long run and become recognised by the UN. We are talking about in the "event of secession".

Expensivewarrio:
People have been running mad from time immemorial, hence no bigie. Back to the topic. It would be lovely to watch from afar 70% YORUBA MUSLIM UP IN ARMS AGAINST 25% YORUBA CHRISTIANS. That will make it more bloodie than what is happening in northeast and northcentral...........hehehehohohaaa

bakynes:
You are wrong abt the automatic residency status, there is visa free access which you will be given time of stay. If there was an auto-matic residency why did the shagari govt come up with the " Ghana must go" campaign. Which property lawyer will collect rent from his fellow country man and send it down to you in another country where is that done except the property manager is a saint. Guy accept the fact i have told you in my last post. Nigeria is not doing anything bad here, is either biafrans apply for Nigerian residency or you remain as Nigerians. Even if Biafran joins Ecowas they can only have visa free access with a limited time of stay. I can assure you Nigeria has the right to choose which biafran they give resident permit/ Citizenship/ Business visa and not every biafran will get one so at the end of it all some biafrans will loose their properties.

vicadex07:
When we did "ghana must go" to ghanians, what do you think happened to abandoned Ghanaian properties...

zendy:
Have you heard any Ghanain complain that their property was siezed by Nigeria?

zendy:
Have you ever asked why there is ECOWAS embossed on top of the Nigerian passport? You think it is there for fun? That sign is there to remind the any country in West Africa you go to that you are a citizen of an ECOWAS member state and you have the full right to travel, live and work anywhere in West Africa. The only reason that Ghanains could be deported long ago was because Nigeria and other member states had not yet signed the 1992 ECOWAS free trade agreement. Anyone from any ECOWAS country can travel, live and work in Nigeria without Visa. There are many people in Nigeria, some living abroad who have handed their properties over to estate managers or even their Lawyers to take of for them. It happens all time.

Totti9:
How i wish yoruba and igbo will just go to war for like one month the only weapon that's allow is Amala and Akpu make dem settle issue once at 4 all

zendy:
Have you ever asked why there is ECOWAS embossed on top of the Nigerian passport? You think it is there for fun? That sign is there to remind the any country in West Africa you go to that you are a citizen of an ECOWAS member state and you have the full right to travel, live and work anywhere in West Africa. The only reason that Ghanains could be deported long ago was because Nigeria and other member states had not yet signed the 1992 ECOWAS free trade agreement. Anyone from any ECOWAS country can travel, live and work in Nigeria without Visa. There are many people in Nigeria, some living abroad who have handed their properties over to estate managers or even their Lawyers to take of for them. It happens all time.

kropotkin2:
Ecowas rules stipulate only a 90 day permit after which non nationals need apply for residency. You cant just head out to Ghana and settle there.. Also know something, there can be no happy separation

Vickyydera:
Allow us to secede first, then we can talk about properties.

sleekdot:
Point to the person holding you back? Have you packed your loads from SW and North and someone stopped you?

Per the question all Biafrans would have to leave first and apply for a visa to come in, The visa would be granted at the discretion of consular officers. If you dont have a visa and you cant come to the country your property is domiciled then you would owe property taxes and when your property taxes go beyond a certain limit the govt can take over the property and auction to citizens

americanigga:
Anytime I think of Biafra one of the things I remember is Igbo property- Estate and Companies in lagos and other parts of Nigeria. Because of the incessant quarrel between Igbos and Yorubas on Nairaland, I keep wondering if Biafra goes to war with Nigeria or succeeds in breaking away from Nigeria, what Yorubas would do to Igbo Companies and Estate?

My first question goes to the Yorubas. will you go after Igbo property in yoruba land especially lagos if they secede?

My second question goes to Biafra. How do you plan to protect your property in Yoruba land and other part in Nigeria if you decide to go to war with or break away from Nigeria? Do you regrete developing Yoruba land instead of yours?

I believe the answers to these questions will show that Nigerian must be one

americanigga:
Anytime I think of Biafra one of the things I remember is Igbo property- Estate and Companies in lagos and other parts of Nigeria. Because of the incessant quarrel between Igbos and Yorubas on Nairaland, I keep wondering if Biafra goes to war with Nigeria or succeeds in breaking away from Nigeria, what Yorubas would do to Igbo Companies and Estate?

My first question goes to the Yorubas. will you go after Igbo property in yoruba land especially lagos if they secede?

My second question goes to Biafra. How do you plan to protect your property in Yoruba land and other part in Nigeria if you decide to go to war with or break away from Nigeria? Do you regrete developing Yoruba land instead of yours?

I believe the answers to these questions will show that Nigerian must be one

Vickyydera:
Allow us to secede first, then we can talk about properties.

kropotkin2:
You can secede, but it must necessarily be with violence.

quid:
This why Lagos is now 50% Igbo