n3xt:



I've posted the summary of the report online sometimes ago but I'll do it again. Just the summary. The real reason why I don't want this public is some people may just end up duplicating this report to deceive unsuspecting clients.

But as a colleague, I can share full report with you via email. But you go give me at least a day o. Too many files to dig out.

I am grateful boss.. thanks

mavverick:
Will the roofing company supply sheets that will work with metal trusses ?
Does it also mean that the running of cabling will be tied to the metal stuff using binding wire, you know with wood the pipe work can easily be nailed down.
I mainly see this kind of roof with industrial building where the requirements are different to that of a residential build.

The roofing sheets will be installed by professionals roofers with proper insulation material.

Cabling (which will be color coded) will be done inside cable trays and pvc trunks like its done in commercial buildings and network centers. All exposed cables will be tied together with cable ties.

Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality,

At endia samy you are right.but the problem I see with central water heater is that ones it has fault it means the whole building will not have hot water ,that is why I prefer individual heater for each toilet or 2 toilet to share 1 heater, where we have about 4 toilet so the whole house will not have shortage of hot water if one develop problem and at time it take some days in most home to rectify fault.more so as some said that Nigeria don't need much hot water ,to me, we are much used to the weather conditions here when its amathan almost every body here in Nigeria wioo like to use hot water even when in raning season more so in some part of Nigeria when woman gibe bath to new born baby they most use hot water to massage there body ,make tea etc

rotecch77:

Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality,

At endia samy you are right.but the problem I see with central water heater is that ones it has fault it means the whole building will not have hot water ,that is why I prefer individual heater for each toilet or 2 toilet to share 1 heater, where we have about 4 toilet so the whole house will not have shortage of hot water if one develop problem and at time it take some days in most home to rectify fault.more so as some said that Nigeria don't need much hot water ,to me, we are much used to the weather conditions here when its amathan almost every body here in Nigeria wioo like to use hot water even when in raning season more so in some part of Nigeria when woman gibe bath to new born baby they most use hot water to massage there body ,make tea etc

Perhaps it's the quality of devices that are used.

I've never had to replace a water heater in any house that I've lived in.

As in most house systems, they too require periodic preventative maintenance.

My main house will have a central internal water heater system, truly don't like the individual ones except for the tankless heaters and only when installed in a hidden place such as under the sink. Still debating whether I will install one in the garage but most likely I will.

To me, as a comfort element it's a required item.

Yes egun baba, but here in nigeria we lack maintainance culture,more so you can hide your heater in your roof ,I use to do it that way but the height of you over head tank most be higher than the level of the heater in other to have adequate free flow of water into the he heater also as the discharged

rotecch77:

Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality,

At endia samy you are right.but the problem I see with central water heater is that ones it has fault it means the whole building will not have hot water ,that is why I prefer individual heater for each toilet or 2 toilet to share 1 heater, where we have about 4 toilet so the whole house will not have shortage of hot water if one develop problem and at time it take some days in most home to rectify fault.more so as some said that Nigeria don't need much hot water ,to me, we are much used to the weather conditions here when its amathan almost every body here in Nigeria wioo like to use hot water even when in raning season more so in some part of Nigeria when woman gibe bath to new born baby they most use hot water to massage there body ,make tea etc

From today on, make una dey recommend central water heater system to clients. Oops! No be you sef I suppose talk to but the architects and mechanical engineers.

So many thing to consider before the introduction , cost of the piping,heater, maintaince ,available of part in MKT etc

If I were to take another view on it. Personal house that i want to live in, I would only have a single one for the whole house or NOT have it at all.

Rental house, individual one might be better considering the Nigerian effect.
Here, blocks of flats over 100 share a single industrial heater, its not only hot water self, it is also used for heating. Then the flats have a conventional small heater as a backup, just in case the central one fails. When I last lived in such apartments, I dont recall a downtime in over 5 years, regular service YES but no total downtime on central heating.

rotecch77:

Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality,

At endia samy you are right.but the problem I see with central water heater is that ones it has fault it means the whole building will not have hot water ,that is why I prefer individual heater for each toilet or 2 toilet to share 1 heater, where we have about 4 toilet so the whole house will not have shortage of hot water if one develop problem and at time it take some days in most home to rectify fault.more so as some said that Nigeria don't need much hot water ,to me, we are much used to the weather conditions here when its amathan almost every body here in Nigeria wioo like to use hot water even when in raning season more so in some part of Nigeria when woman gibe bath to new born baby they most use hot water to massage there body ,make tea etc

Electricity nko ?
Whose gen will power it ?
Overfull current / half current nko ?

rotecch77:
So many thing to consider before the introduction , cost of the piping,heater, maintaince ,available of part in MKT etc

They're not really useless persay, it's mainly a matter of choice and interior design. Its not all the time you'll want white light in your living space.
Wall brackets can double as mood lights for those who would like the option of changing the room ambience from time to time. They simply fit them with dimmable coloured bulbs or go for LED wall brackets, as pictured below, while still retaining the regular white pop spotlights. For when they want greater illumination.

First and second pictures show mood lights in the form of LED strips, with the regular white pop lights still dustributed at the center .

While the third and fourth show LED wall brackets, useable as alternatives.
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agarawu23:
bolded is what I was explaining to Oga mufu on bplenty thread.

The 4 side lamp are useless if you are using pop lights, in fact it's old fashioned.

The problem with our naija is they don't want to open eye ; so they all rely on the everyday design and Nobody wants to try something new.

Yes, but same voltage that power 10lts will power 120lts (200-250v) but where is the light ,before 120ts will get to boiling point, 10 LTS size will be ready to use ,...fluctuations of power supply 5min on 2day off

mavverick:
Electricity nko ?
Whose gen will power it ?
Overfull current / half current nko ?

It's my opinion that with today's green attitude and coupled with Nigeria epileptic power supply, the question that we should be asking is how do I power this with solar.

http://www.rheem.com/products/water_heating/solar/?&utm_source=/products/solar_water_heating/&utm_medium=vanityURL&utm_campaign=vanityURL

Now my interest is only on private residence. Those with commercial residence might have a different viewpoint especially in terms of initial expense.

thanks, we dey try small small.
Table lamps, and non-fixture mood lights are not really things you can put in an electrical or buildin plan unless you're designing the interior aswell or furnishing it... That's the problem.,

n3xt:


My eyes on you Mr. I enjoy people who not only sell but knew how to market their goods.

When I see the walls lights, I keep asking what happened to mood lighting? What happened to table lamps?
But most of the time, that's what architects put on drawing and that's what we do. Some clients will unclad for you if the 4 wall lights are missing.


In projects where I have total control, I never put those lights and there's never a complain.

Oga egun pls what is the cost of this heater with all the accessories

rotecch77:
Oga egun pls what is the cost of this heater with all the accessories

I'll research it and get back to you.

What size PEX do you guys use in Nigeria? 3/8, 1/2?

Thanks.

allCopacetic:
thanks, we dey try small small.
Table lamps, and non-fixture mood lights are not really things you can put in an electrical or buildin plan unless you're designing the interior aswell or furnishing it... That's the problem.,

Of course that's the case in incomplete plans. I've been privileged to see a complete plan and I know the difference. Though it came at a price sha.

For just one building, I got a whooping:

80+ pages for structural details/drawings.

35+ pages of electrical drawing.

40+ pages of mechanical drawings.

You'll want to ask what's so special about the building. Nothing!

Everything is just so detailed that even a DIY won't miss a thing.

@ lastpage, I think you'll find this book very interesting.

Building Services Handbook | Incorporating Current Building & Construction Regulations by Fred Hall & Roger Greeno

It's large print and I know you'll find it very informative.

Mostly 1/2"
I hope the cost of this heater will be a something 70 pec home owner can afford
Also the cost of maintainance,availability of the part, etc bcs we looking at an alternative to how we can reduce exesive using of heater in every toilet

rotecch77:
Mostly 1/2"
I hope the cost of this heater will be a something 70 pec home owner can afford
Also the cost of maintainance,availability of the part, etc bcs we looking at an alternative to how we can reduce exesive using of heater in every toilet

Unfortunately anything out of the ordinary like this will be pricy.

This one here is a complete kit for about $4k, but I can DIY for about $1,5k

http://www.ecomfort.com/Caleffi-NAS30020/p24407.html?utm_term=24407&utm_source=adwordsfroogle&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=adwordsfroogle&utm_content=GOOGLEPLA-20945&var1=ecomfortusa&var2=adwordsfroogle&var3=20945&keyword=GOOGLEPLA-20945&gclid=Cj0KEQjw-YO7BRDwi6Stp7T296ABEiQAD6iWMau5sfXTo8el61jze1CZNVd-_AI2N24PrjDLLoC9uk8aAk218P8HAQ

Reducing expense should start with number of bathrooms in Nigerian houses.

It will be difficult for an average Nigerian to get into expensive systems.

We look at short term gains in Nigeria too much.

The book contains a lot ,also harfod Seeley
But not full as this

Al's chudley

I just laugh when ppl talk about water heater in Nigeria

No winter
No stable electricity to power it
Abi na because of ordinary breeze wey dey blow for just few weeks during harmattan go make me dey find heater?
I know we like to live the oyinbo life but it's not in naija were our expections aren't met by our bad govt.

I will walk down to my kitchen and boil water if cold dey catch me.

Heater for naija

agarawu23:
I just laugh when ppl talk about water heater in Nigeria

No winter
No stable electricity to power it
Abi na because of ordinary breeze wey dey blow for just few weeks during harmattan go make me dey find heater?
I know we like to live the oyinbo life but it's not in naija were our expections aren't met by our bad govt.

I will walk down to my kitchen and boil water if cold dey catch me.

Heater for naija

The funny thing be say when you finish using the heater to take your bathe with hot water, you will now be sweating and will put on fan or AC to cool yourself and if there is no light for that, you go begin fan yourself with hand fan. I just dey laff for heater for Nigeria.

allCopacetic:
They're not really useless persay, it's mainly a matter of choice and interior design. Its not all the time you'll want white light in your living space.
Wall brackets can double as mood lights for those who would like the option of changing the room ambience from time to time. They simply fit them with dimmable coloured bulbs or go for LED wall brackets, as pictured below, while still retaining the regular white pop spotlights. For when they want greater illumination.

First and second pictures show mood lights in the form of LED strips, with the regular white pop lights still dustributed at the center .

While the third and fourth show LED wall brackets, useable as alternatives.
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these ones u attached are cool. I don't just like excess light cos I hardly sleep with light on.

We are all different Individual.... One mans food..........

NL1960:


The funny thing be say when you finish using the heater to take your bathe with hot water, you will now be sweating and will put on fan or AC to cool yourself and if there is no light for that, you go begin fan yourself with hand fan. I just dey laff for heater for Nigeria.

imagine the wahala? Make person drive for hot sun reach house com open one yeye hot water for head. The only time it will be useful is only December during harmattan.

It's meant for countries with cold weather and not our hot naija. The ones we use here functions 24/7 and are unuse for just 4 and half month during summer.

@agarawu ,the issue Is that we are use to certain degree of coldness here (20-;so when ever its lesser than that we will start filing cold ,but In polar region where there is -8 degrees, you will believed that here we don't need heater, even as I'm typing now I'm filling cold just a day rain oooo

Year 1 rent level was only achievable in year 6

EgunMogaji:


Hello madam, I'm confused about something.

What was reached in year 6? Positive income?

rotecch77:
@agarawu ,the issue Is that we are use to certain degree of coldness here (20-;so when ever its lesser than that we will start filing cold ,but In polar region where there is -8 degrees, you will believed that here we don't need heater, even as I'm typing now I'm filling cold just a day rain oooo

hehehehe, its better u buy a warmer too in addition to your heater so once u baff with hot water, your warmer will be waiting for u in your room or sitting room. U can buy the solar powered warmer too

gabbytabby:
Year 1 rent level was only achievable in year 6

Thank you.

I've been resistant to get into owning rental units in Nigeria but Wifeys insistence seems to be wearing me down so I've been reluctantly paying more attention to you folks.

rotecch77:
@agarawu ,the issue Is that we are use to certain degree of coldness here (20-;so when ever its lesser than that we will start filing cold ,but In polar region where there is -8 degrees, you will believed that here we don't need heater, even as I'm typing now I'm filling cold just a day rain oooo

More importantly, why surfer in your own home?

Yes I'll have a water heater because it's a necessity for me.

Now, a 60 inch 4K tv is not for me

I did some thinking lately and I am of the opinion that in the future all residences in Nigeria would have to use prepaid meters which means more electricity bills according to what most people I know that use prepaid meters say.i have never used prepaid so I cant justify their assertions. Talking about diversification and trying to reduce electricity bills , i think solar heaters, solar bore hole systems and solar air conditioner systems should be embraced and explored in Nigeria by builders. Anybody with expertise in this field should educate on the pros and cons of these equipments especially the solar heating and air conditioning systems. Already I have made contacts with some Chinese firms and i'm working on its feasibility.

rotecch77:
The book contains a lot ,also harfod Seeley
But not full as this

So you read Seeley's stuffs too. Those guys are just too good.

Maybe we start exchanging collections soon. An architect on here took my Boutique/Shop design catalogue and never bother to return it back.