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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:04pm On Jun 14, 2016
Clinton leads Trump 49 percent to 42 percent Poll was conducted online June 6 through June 12 Clinton's gains over the past two weeks in the tracking poll are coming from increases in support among moderates, men and white voters.

She narrowed Trump's margin among men and white voters from double digits in last week's poll to single digits this week. A majority of voters also think that Clinton will win the 2016 presidential election against Trump — 54 percent said Clinton will win, and 40 percent said Trump will win.

The 14- point margin is up from only a 5-point margin last week.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-clinton-expands-lead-after-becoming-presumptive-nominee-n591531
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jun 14, 2016
The Washington, DC Democratic primary holds today. 20 pledged delegates are at stake today.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 4:35pm On Jun 14, 2016
House Democrats Chant “Where's the Bill”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnc1yWyFGiY
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:56am On Jun 15, 2016
I'll propose a new constitutional amendment that will get rid of the Electoral College, and ensure that all (85% or more) votes cast in the general election count. The Electoral College is a relic of the 18th century which doesn't fit into the 21st century.

If US governors are directly elected by the popular vote, why can't American presidents be elected via the same method? The Electoral College system virtually suppresses turnout to an extent. For instance, there will be little or no motivation for Republicans to come out enmasse to vote for their party's nominee in November, ditto for Democrats in South Carolina.

My amendment would be thus:

28th Amendment
(1) A nominee for President of the United States shall be deemed as the winner of the Presidential election if he/she wins the most valid votes cast AND no less than 1/4 of the valid votes cast in 2/3 of the states and Washington, DC. [could be a combination of 33 states and DC or 34 states].

(2) If a winner doesn't emerge through sub-section 1, then the House of Reps and the Senate would cast ballots for president and vice president respectively.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 10:54am On Jun 15, 2016
There was a national crisis. Trump was the first to respond, at 4:30am. That means his people woke him up to let him know about the shooting - just like the President.
Trump immediately tweeted out his sympathy etc. Then hours later, started talking about solutions. That's leadership.
Meanwhile, Hillary didn't say anything until morning, and even started her message with "I just woke up to the news". Her aides didn't even bother waking her from yet another one of her long sleeps. That's not presidential behaviour.
The next day, Trump delivered the speech that Obama should have given.
And now, a few days later, Hillary and Obama are finally saying similar things to what Trump said on Sunday.
So you tell me, who the hell are they saying isn't Presidential? Surely the person who doesn't bother waking up, or the person who umms and errs through a statement of meaningless platitudes is not Presidential.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 11:06am On Jun 15, 2016
Breaking News: Gun sales spiked in the wake of the Orlando shooting,

People are feeling the need more than ever to protect theselves...
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 11:09am On Jun 15, 2016
Breaking: Wife of Orlando shooter to be charged.
She actually drove her husband down to case the site.

Trump was right no amount of gun control can stop a radical muslim from killing an infidel...
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:21pm On Jun 15, 2016
CFCman:
I'll propose a new constitutional amendment that will get rid of the Electoral College, and ensure that all (85% or more) votes cast in the general election count. The Electoral College is a relic of the 18th century which doesn't fit into the 21st century.

If US governors are directly elected by the popular vote, why can't American presidents be elected via the same method? The Electoral College system virtually suppresses turnout to an extent. For instance, there will be little or no motivation for Republicans to come out enmasse to vote for their party's nominee in November, ditto for Democrats in South Carolina.

My amendment would be thus:

28th Amendment
(1) A nominee for President of the United States shall be deemed as the winner of the Presidential election if he/she wins the most valid votes cast AND no less than 1/4 of the valid votes cast in 2/3 of the states and Washington, DC. [could be a combination of 33 states and DC or 34 states].

(2) If a winner doesn't emerge through sub-section 1, then the House of Reps and the Senate would cast ballots for president and vice president respectively.
The Electoral system is there to secure the interests of the smaller States so that they would not be neglected for bigger States like California, Texas, New York, Florida and co. If election goes the way of popular votes,no presidential candidate will go to States like Wyoming, Delaware and the Dakotas. I still like the electoral college system for the presidential system.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 8:44pm On Jun 15, 2016
Why is it that for every Trump speech it is either his wife, daughter, son and daughter in law that are standing by him? Why are republicans not standing by his side during speech? Is it a must to have your whole family during speeches? I would love to see MT going out and campaigning like MO did in 2008 and 2012.
Looks like Trump is playing his own game and not many top republicans like him. Maybe they will come around ?


CFCman:
The Washington, DC Democratic primary holds today. 20 pledged delegates are at stake today.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jun 15, 2016
armyofone:
Why is it that for every Trump speech it is either his wife, daughter, son and daughter in law that are standing by him? Why are republicans not standing by his side during speech? Is it a must to have your whole family during speeches? I would love to see MT going out and campaigning like MO did in 2008 and 2012.
Looks like Trump is playing his own game and not many top republicans like him. Maybe they will come around ?
I think he likes it that way. He wants to show the party of "family values" that he is indeed a man of family values grin.
Besides, there are some campaign staff that also stand around him at the stump.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:12am On Jun 16, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The Electoral system is there to secure the interests of the smaller States so that they would not be neglected for bigger States like California, Texas, New York, Florida and co. If election goes the way of popular votes,no presidential candidate will go to States like Wyoming, Delaware and the Dakotas. I still like the electoral college system for the presidential system.
My proposal would still ensure that the smaller states still get their voices heard in the election. After all, the most populous states are only CA, Texas, New York, Florida, South Carolina.

States like the Dakotas, Iowa, New Hampshire and Wyoming would still matter if a nominee needs to garner no less than 25-30% of the vote in 33+ states.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 6:56am On Jun 16, 2016
CFCman:
My proposal would still ensure that the smaller states still get their voices heard in the election. After all, the most populous states are only CA, Texas, New York, Florida, South Carolina.

States like the Dakotas, Iowa, New Hampshire and Wyoming would still matter if a nominee needs to garner no less than 25-30% of the vote in 33+ states.
Like the way we do it in Nigeria?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:01am On Jun 16, 2016
happney65:
Like the way we do it in Nigeria?
Yes. Something like that. I recognize that the small states shouldn't have their voices muzzled by 2 or 3 of the most populous states.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:09am On Jun 16, 2016
According to a new ABC/Washington Post poll, Donald Trump's unfavorable rating is at 70% shocked shocked, while 'only' 55% of adults view Secretary Clinton unfavorably.

Trump's unfavorable number just set a new record!!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:16am On Jun 16, 2016
I support Secretary Clinton's idea of a $12 federal minimum wage. It would be a slight economic boon to millions of workers working minimum wage jobs.

And I also agree with her support for the death penalty for mass murderers and serial killers, who killed their victims with the use of a firearm. However, I wouldn't support the imposition of the death penalty upon defendants that committed murder without the use of a firearm.

Defendants who are convicted of murdering 1 person (with or without a firearm) should be imprisoned for a minimum of 20 years, with the possibility of parole.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by foladara777(m): 11:29am On Jun 16, 2016
stanech:
There was a national crisis. Trump was the first to respond, at 4:30am. That means his people woke him up to let him know about the shooting - just like the President.
Trump immediately tweeted out his sympathy etc. Then hours later, started talking about solutions. That's leadership.
Meanwhile, Hillary didn't say anything until morning, and even started her message with "I just woke up to the news". Her aides didn't even bother waking her from yet another one of her long sleeps. That's not presidential behaviour.
The next day, Trump delivered the speech that Obama should have given.
And now, a few days later, Hillary and Obama are finally saying similar things to what Trump said on Sunday.
So you tell me, who the hell are they saying isn't Presidential? Surely the person who doesn't bother waking up, or the person who umms and errs through a statement of meaningless platitudes is not Presidential.
with profound respect to you. what u typed is complete nonsense. How can u reduce the decision of who is the better leader to the question of who woke up earlier on a particular day? Dats too arbitrary. u didn't even consider the particular factors that could have being in play. Like who slept earlier. just assumed that Clinton loves sleep too much and trump is always up and alert. SMH
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:39am On Jun 16, 2016
CFCman:
I'll propose a new constitutional amendment that will get rid of the Electoral College, and ensure that all (85% or more) votes cast in the general election count. The Electoral College is a relic of the 18th century which doesn't fit into the 21st century.

If US governors are directly elected by the popular vote, why can't American presidents be elected via the same method? The Electoral College system virtually suppresses turnout to an extent. For instance, there will be little or no motivation for Republicans to come out enmasse to vote for their party's nominee in November, ditto for Democrats in South Carolina.

My amendment would be thus:

28th Amendment
(1) A nominee for President of the United States shall be deemed as the winner of the Presidential election if he/she wins the most valid votes cast AND no less than 1/4 of the valid votes cast in 2/3 of the states and Washington, DC. [could be a combination of 33 states and DC or 34 states].

(2) If a winner doesn't emerge through sub-section 1, then the House of Reps and the Senate would cast ballots for president and vice president respectively.
My brother, I have been amazed over time why many people still don't see the slipshodly sham of a so-called electoral democracy been practice and imposed on the American people. I sometimes wonder how you can define a system to be ''democratic'' when it fundamentally undermines the basic principle of one citizen-one vote? A system that denies citizens in their capitals the right to have a voting representative in Congress. The flaws and behind-the-book nature of this system is even more pronounced when you realize that no modern democracy or any other country in the 21st century, like you rightly noted, is operating or has adopted this anti-people electoral model.

The system is a sham and anti-democratic. The likes of your recommendations are long overdue.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:50am On Jun 16, 2016
stanech:
There was a national crisis. Trump was the first to respond, at 4:30am. That means his people woke him up to let him know about the shooting - just like the President.
Trump immediately tweeted out his sympathy etc. Then hours later, started talking about solutions. That's leadership.
Meanwhile, Hillary didn't say anything until morning, and even started her message with "I just woke up to the news". Her aides didn't even bother waking her from yet another one of her long sleeps. That's not presidential behaviour.
The next day, Trump delivered the speech that Obama should have given.
And now, a few days later, Hillary and Obama are finally saying similar things to what Trump said on Sunday.
So you tell me, who the hell are they saying isn't Presidential? Surely the person who doesn't bother waking up, or the person who umms and errs through a statement of meaningless platitudes is not Presidential.
''Thou shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free..'' John 8:32.

When people put reality above sentiment, the truth will always gain a voice, even though its often locked up in the cupboard of falsehood. You have spoken the truth.

Keep it up, brother.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:07pm On Jun 16, 2016
CFCman:
My proposal would still ensure that the smaller states still get their voices heard in the election. After all, the most populous states are only CA, Texas, New York, Florida, South Carolina.

States like the Dakotas, Iowa, New Hampshire and Wyoming would still matter if a nominee needs to garner no less than 25-30% of the vote in 33+ states.
Don't forget States like Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and co are bigger too. One of the reasons for the electoral system like I said is which presidential. Candidate wants to campaign in smaller States like Delaware, Wyoming and co with less than 1 million people while there are Tens of millions in a state like Cali and Texas and other bigger States. With electoral system and the electoral map, presidential candidates goes to ever States including the smaller ones to look for magical 270 electoral votes.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:14pm On Jun 16, 2016
CFCman:
According to a new ABC/Washington Post poll, Donald Trump's unfavorable rating is at 70% shocked shocked, while 'only' 55% of adults view Secretary Clinton unfavorably.

Trump's unfavorable number just set a new record!!
How can he win with that kind of unfavorable number ?. It's unheard of in the history of Presidential election in America but you see the know nothing clowns foaming in the mouth about what they have no clue about.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m):
Appleyard:
My brother, I have been amazed over time why many people still don't see the slipshodly sham of a so-called electoral democracy been practice and imposed on the American people. I sometimes wonder how you can define a system to be ''democratic'' when it fundamentally undermines the basic principle of one citizen-one vote? A system that denies citizens in their capitals the right to have a voting representative in Congress. The flaws and behind-the-book nature of this system is even more pronounced when you realize that no modern democracy or any other country in the 21st century, like you rightly noted, is operating or has adopted this anti-people electoral model.

The system is a sham and anti-democratic. The likes of your recommendations are long overdue.
Appleyard, please explain to me how the electoral system is a sham and anti democratic ?. Even with the electoral system for the presidential election, everyone votes still counts in America unless you know something Americans don't know.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m):
armyofone:
Why is it that for every Trump speech it is either his wife, daughter, son and daughter in law that are standing by him? Why are republicans not standing by his side during speech? Is it a must to have your whole family during speeches? I would love to see MT going out and campaigning like MO did in 2008 and 2012.
Looks like Trump is playing his own game and not many top republicans like him. Maybe they will come around ?
The Republicons are running away from him because they know he is going to be an albatross on their necks in November. Three Republicans Governors said they won't endorse or vote for him and some Republican senators are avoiding him like a plaque. My Junior Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois, Republican by the way just withdrew his endorsement of Trump. He's going to do worse damage to the Republican party than George McCarthy did in 1964. That's why you see the Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and the Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell speaking out against his racism and demagoguery. So he's left with no one but his family and few aides by his side. Those are his Amen corner nodding and clapping to all the gibberish coming out of his mouth.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:10pm On Jun 16, 2016
Obama just hired Laila Alawa to join Homeland Security. Why does this matter she praised the WTC attacks.

#Trump 2016
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 6:11pm On Jun 16, 2016
"Consider what the President [Barack Obama] just said 'We don't want to make it easy for a terrorist to buy a gun'. Why is the terrorist on the street in the first place?

Obama is the worst and Clinton will not be any different.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:00pm On Jun 16, 2016
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 8:15pm On Jun 16, 2016
Trump's highest unfavorables in new ABC/Post poll: Blacks 94% Hispanics 89% Women 77% Under 50 76% College grads 74% Adults 70% Inds 68% LGBT 86%
Richard Armitage Supports Hillary over Trump.
http://politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 8:23pm On Jun 16, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Trump's highest unfavorables in new ABC/Post poll: Blacks 94%
Hispanics 89%
Women 77%
Under 50 76%
College grads 74%
Adults 70%
Inds 68%
LGBT 86%

Richard Armitage Supports Hillary over Trump.

http://politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431
The bigoted one is toast. The republican leaders are just trying to minimize the loss in November. Sometimes I think the Trampy one is just looking at the election like his defunct reality show. It will be a celebratory night on November 8 for decent Americans who believe in fairness and equality.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jun 16, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Trump's highest unfavorables in new ABC/Post poll: Blacks 94%
Hispanics 89%
Women 77%
Under 50 76%
College grads 74%
Adults 70%
Inds 68%
LGBT 86%

Richard Armitage Supports Hillary over Trump.

http://politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431
Lwkmd
grin grin grin cheesy grin
grin grin

It's really getting comical
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 9:06pm On Jun 16, 2016
CFCman:
I support Secretary Clinton's idea of a $12 federal minimum wage. It would be a slight economic boon to millions of workers working minimum wage jobs.

And I also agree with her support for the death penalty for mass murderers and serial killers, who killed their victims with the use of a firearm. However, I wouldn't support the imposition of the death penalty upon defendants that committed murder without the use of a firearm.

Defendants who are convicted of murdering 1 person (with or without a firearm) should be imprisoned for a minimum of 20 years, with the possibility of parole.
Lol. You democrats need to brush up your economics. How will a $12 minimum wage boon millions of workers working minimum wage jobs? Are you going to force employers not to downsize in other to still make profit or invest in automation? Increasing the minimum wage will prevent low skilled workers from getting entry level jobs that they need for experience and only experience people will get minimum wage jobs since employers will want more productivity if they are paying more.

Wages should be decided by city's standard of living and the market. If you don't want a $7.50 an hour pay, you should not take the job or learn more skills so you can make more money. Besides, it only helps big corporations that the left hates so much since it will drive their competitors out of business.

What is the difference between killing someone with a firearm and killing the same person with a stone? If you want death penalty for murder, then be for death penalty for murders. The weapon that is used is not really relevant because a life is lost whichever way. If you want to cherry pick you will have to change the rules with the police too. Assaulting someone with a stone can be considered a DEADLY WEAPON

Progressives are quite funny
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jun 16, 2016
Missy89:
Lol. You democrats need to brush up your economics. How will a $12 minimum wage boon millions of workers working minimum wage jobs? Are you going to force employers not to downsize in other to still make profit or invest in automation? Increasing the minimum wage will prevent low skilled workers from getting entry level jobs that they need for experience and only experience people will get minimum wage jobs since employers will want more productivity if they are paying more.

Wages should be decided by city's standard of living and the market. If you don't want a $7.50 an hour pay, you should not take the job or learn more skills so you can make more money. Besides, it only helps big corporations that the left hates so much since it will drive their competitors out of business.

What is the difference between killing someone with a firearm and killing the same person with a stone? If you want death penalty for murder, then be for death penalty for murders. The weapon that is used is not really relevant because a life is lost whichever way. If you want to cherry pick you will have to change the rules with the police too. Assaulting someone with a stone can be considered a DEADLY WEAPON

Progressives are quite funny
The $12 proposal won't be a one-size-fits-all solution, according to Clinton. The states and local governments would retain the power to set whatever minimum wage that would correspond to their respective costs of living.

As for the death penalty issue, I was just thinking aloud lol. Clinton only wants the death penalty for serial killers, mass murderers and terrorists (I guess terrorists could also be mass murderers).

You're right. Murder is murder, whether committed by a firearm or poison.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:58pm On Jun 16, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The bigoted one is toast. The republican leaders are just trying to minimize the loss in November. Sometimes I think the Trampy one is just looking at the election like his defunct reality show. It will be a celebratory night on November 8 for decent Americans who believe in fairness and equality.
The Trampy one as you say is in for it.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/hackers-just-released-what-appears-be-dncs-trump-opposition-research-file
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 10:21pm On Jun 16, 2016
Missy89:
Lol. You democrats need to brush up your economics. How will a $12 minimum wage boon millions of workers working minimum wage jobs? Are you going to force employers not to downsize in other to still make profit or invest in automation? Increasing the minimum wage will prevent low skilled workers from getting entry level jobs that they need for experience and only experience people will get minimum wage jobs since employers will want more productivity if they are paying more.

Wages should be decided by city's standard of living and the market. If you don't want a $7.50 an hour pay, you should not take the job or learn more skills so you can make more money. Besides, it only helps big corporations that the left hates so much since it will drive their competitors out of business.

What is the difference between killing someone with a firearm and killing the same person with a stone? If you want death penalty for murder, then be for death penalty for murders. The weapon that is used is not really relevant because a life is lost whichever way. If you want to cherry pick you will have to change the rules with the police too. Assaulting someone with a stone can be considered a DEADLY WEAPON

Progressives are quite funny
What happens when some cities review theirs but your party blocks it.

Before you put up a defence,here's proof of your party doing what they do best-Obstruction.
http://nytimes.com/2016/02/22/us/alabama-moves-to-halt-pay-law-in-birmingham.html

http://al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/bill_to_block_city_minimum_wag_2.html

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