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That guy is the Naira land resident Idiot.

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Always talk trash.... SMH[/quote]

He is on point,
Good soup ,Na money mekam

Obijulius:
Tell them ooo.

People who are shortsighted don't understand. This explains why the clamor for self determination is strong there.

Anybody opposing self determination is a parasite. Bruce you tight my brother, nothing do you.

Please be like Bruce,Bruce is smart.

Don't be like Buhari...Buhari is dull.

CC Quotasystem

Koleman:
Early conclusion! The case of anambra state can only be attributed to good leadership! True or Holy Federalism can only work with good leadership... if not the same leaders who still embezzle now will still embezzle more whether true or fake federalism! The problem with Nigerians is that we do not think at all. you cannot just transfer a textbook theory into reality. Every theory on earth is based on assumptions! one important assumption that every theory ignores is the Nigerian problem "Corruption" No matter the theory once the leaders are corrupt it becomes useless!

you are 100% correct, bad leadership is our problem not the system of Governance, china does not practice democracy yet they are so advanced.

Ben Bruce keeps playing politics to keep our se and ss brothers happy despite the rot going on in his home state of bayelsa.

Some other states even in the north are not owing salaries too in this times of recession.

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

uniben alumnus I hail theel

Oga, is Ben Bruce a governor? Is he the governor of Bayelsa?



Very convenient for you to lash out at Fayose and Aregbeshola, whereas Ben Bruce own state, Bayelsa, hasnt payed her state workers salary since December last year[/quote]

gbaskiboy:
Twitter senator is making common sense, I hope Fayose and Aregbesola can see clearly with their eyes

And imo state [b][/b]

What is this uncommon sense senator talking about here...
See below
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/anambra-assembly-approves-n10bn-loan/120396.html

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chigoizie7:
I don't know why people will always focus on attacking the "messenger" instead of the "message" passed.

For the past 50yrs, we have all known that oil is a course to this nation.

ND and their 13% is not an exception here.
All those oil producing state all have governors that are not serious about looking elsewhere. They are all bent on lavishing state funds. They all seek to be elected so that they will loot.

I am not saying that the Anambra state governor or lagos state governor are not corrupt or are the best.

But these two states are both none oil producing, whatever is achieved in those states so far is from their initiatives on how to generate funds in other sectors of the economy(it also boosts the economy and bring about creativity). It takes a man with zeal to think outside the box.


Unlike other governors of oil producing states that seek for elections so that they will embezzle the treasury. Other rich and educated people from none oil producing states seek for political offices even when they know that the state has nothing to embezzle, it shows that they are ready to make something out of nothing and for that very fact, it will also be likened that all the 36states can survive without oil the same way these few states has been serving without loans, bail out or special derivations from sale of oil.

Many state governors in Nigeria both in oil producing states and none oil producing states all depend on what will come out from the centre. They always go to sleep, knowing fully well that by the end of the month, FG will share money amongst the states and if the money is not enough, they will press for bail outs. They will owe salaries and people that are being owed by the states will blame the FG on behalf of their governors. WHY? because everyone now depends on FG. They no longer hold their governors accountable, they now hold FG.

Eg, if a state governor refuses to renovate a state owned skul, instead of blaming and calling the governor to other, u will see people blaming buhari( I am not a fan of buhari, infact I hate his guts, but we must always say the truth). WHY? because our mindset is all focused on OIL and who controls The oil? The FG. And that is why all states and all Nigerians look up to FG.

My question is, if FG does everything from FG > STATES > LG > COUNCILS, why then where governors, local government chairmen and councillors elected in the 1stplace?

BMB just used anambra to drive home his points.


He would have made reference to bayelsa, but they are already a failed state. And bring them to play in his tweet objective will only but rubbish the message he was about passing out.




Anambra has been looking inward.

Anambra has oil deposits (plenty to last them over the next 50yrs).

Anambra also has natural gas deposits in abundance.

Anambra is also blessed to survive without the two natural resources mentioned.

Anambra believes that they can thread anywhere that is dreaded by others.

This mindset is not just for the govt, anambra indigens believe that govt can not do anything for them to better their individual lives and that is why all is trying in his or her own little way to be industrious and successful @least to be self sufficient.


An anmabra man will spit on u if u dash him money instead of teaching him how to make money. We believe that "nothing" is free on earth, more reason we work hard to achieve what we want.

And that mindset of its people is helping the govt. Of anambra state.









Ben bruce only want all nigerians to think like anambra people,we wants all of us to shift our focus away from oil and explore other avenues. And the best way to do that is by practising "true federalism". So that individual states will know it @ the back of their palms that if they don't work hard/smart, hunger will kill them (individuals and leaders alike). Because their won't be dependency on oil.


So that electorates will clean their eyes when electing lazy and fraudulent leaders or governors.

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So na on top this small matter you type all this one Why you no release text book instead? Mtcheew

Koleman:
Early conclusion! The case of anambra state can only be attributed to good leadership! True or Holy Federalism can only work with good leadership... if not the same leaders who still embezzle now will still embezzle more whether true or fake federalism! The problem with Nigerians is that we do not think at all. you cannot just transfer a textbook theory into reality. Every theory on earth is based on assumptions! one important assumption that every theory ignores is the Nigerian problem "Corruption" No matter the theory once the leaders are corrupt it becomes useless!

You won't get enough likes for this comment cos on NL people love statements filled with bigotry and tribalism.

They keep complaining about the system and not the people.

NO employee can be bold enough to ask his boss for a raise unless his performance appraisal over the years gives him confidence.

B4 asking for more they should show what they have done with the little.

Remove lag n anambra and u see many state GOVS just sitting there docile and uninspired, what exactly would change if those same people get greater power?

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

Fallacy

uselessgoat:
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So na on top this small matter you type all this one Why you no release text book instead? Mtcheew

lol, nna this one the epistle, but worth reading, great post Chigozie.

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

This is a non sequitur.

Anambra State is a non-oil producing,
Anambra State can pay Salaries
Therefore true federalism can work

Bayelsa is an oil producing State,
Bayelsa cannot pay salaries,
Therefore true federalism cannot work.

Hope you have identified the gaping hole in your logic. You can only make this case if Bayelsa has failed to pay salary under a structure of true federalism.


Furthermore, that Bayelsa state cannot pay salaries despite being an oil producing state suggests we need true federalism, so that the majority of money generated in Bayelsa can be used in Bayelsa and not used to feed unproductive states up North.

NigerDeltan:
Always talk trash.... SMH

Spray the moronic hypocrite an handsome dose of that substance. He sure needs it!

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

Lol. Many men d9 not get that..lol

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

And your point is...Nigeria shouldn't consider True Federalism or Resource Control??

truth is bitter

SamuelAnyawu:
Has he tweeted about his state Bayelsa? 8 local governments, 13% derivation, IGR and still owing workers

Why don't you just forget the messenger and digest the message-

omenka:
Ok. Bayelsa is an oil producing state, your state for that matter, and is owing 5months salaries. Can we then say, using your logic in reverse, that is proof true federalism can't work in Nigeria Mr Obamanikoro Bruce Lee??

Remember, in logic, if a statement is FACT or TRUE, then it means the "negative statement" and the "reverse outcome" would also be a FACT or TRUE. - GST 107.

means bayelsa taking loans and 13% derivation is not true federalism

GeneralShepherd:
This is a non sequitur.

Anambra State is a non-oil producing,
Anambra State can pay Salaries
Therefore true federalism can work

Bayelsa is an oil producing State,
Bayelsa cannot pay salaries,
Therefore true federalism cannot work.

Hope you have identified the gaping hole in your logic. You can only make this case if Bayelsa has failed to pay salary under a structure of true federalism.


Furthermore, that Bayelsa state cannot pay salaries despite being an oil producing state suggests we need true federalism, so that the majority of money generated in Bayelsa can be used in Bayelsa and not used to feed unproductive states up North.

This man said it all! The more reason resource control should be encouraged, so Bayelsa state will be able to pay salaries

FFKfuckedBIANCA:
Very convenient for you to lash out at Fayose and Aregbeshola, whereas Ben Bruce own state, Bayelsa, hasnt payed her state workers salary since December last year

Is he d governor of Bayelsa state?

Guys go watch captain america, its 2016 movie, its an america movie but its about nigeria and the avengers, d film sweat die sseing my country in oyibo film

Thats the 8th wonder of the world indeed. Anambra seems to be an island of progress in a sea of retrogression!!

SamuelAnyawu:
Has he tweeted about his state Bayelsa? 8 local governments, 13% derivation, IGR and still owing workers

is he d governor of his state? he is a senator representing his consistuency not governing bayelsa and as such he has limited control in the governance of bayelsa state....he saw the good work of Willie obiano and commended.....he sited an example to other states....tnk me later

Ben Bruce is a retard, he tries to appear smart but.... the truth is our problem is not federalism (at least it is not our biggest problem) our problem is imcompetence and corruption. If you have incompetent or corrupt leadears it doesn't matter if they control their resources or get it from the centre, they will still mismanage. What Anambra and Bayelsa shows is that if your leaders are sincere and the people are hard working or if your leaders are uinsincere and the people are lazy then it doesn't matter which system you run, your fate will still be the same.

You cannot stop the destiny of a people and leadership serious about their destiny no matter the obstacles and you cannot improve the lot of the lazy man no matter how you try.

It is just pathetic that all these our so-called leaders are the cause of our problems in Nigeria.

It is of great concern that most of this leaders knows nothing about generating revenue but are well groomed on wasting scarce resources.

It is ludicrous that an oil producing state will owe salaries of workers.

It makes no sense that some governors only dish out venom from their mouth obviously from their well fed state while their indigenous people suffer.

Nigeria no doubt is blessed, but we have folks who doesn't want the prosperity of the land and its people rather they crave for the expansion of their pockets.

It is sad that this country is left in the hands of an old man, who should be resting with his family enjoying his pension to correct the mistakes of the past.

Corruption has eaten so deep into the country, not anyone even myself is a saint.

The situation is worrisome and tiring.

cc jenigurl

hucienda:
The Senator is right on the money here.

At times I wonder how Anambra does it especially in these trying economic times and recession.

na tax ooo..they wan kill us for here..but we dont complain..cos we re seeing the result. .if not..govt house for don catch fire since

Enrichlee:
And your point is...Nigeria shouldn't consider True Federalism or Resource Control??

Everyone here knows I'm pro resource control and pro true federalism. My point is Murray Bruce's reason is idiotic, because when you consider the Bayelsa example, it falls flat on its face.

AmericanQuarter:
Anambra isn't an oil producing state yet it doesn't take loans & doesn't owe salary. Anambra proves that True Federalism can work in Nigeria

https://mobile.twitter.com/benmurraybruce/status/743675378565185536?s=08

I don't even know why some people are oppositing this true fiscal federalism. What are they scared of? Simply means managing your resources while contributing a token to the centre. It will ensure rapid development in many states and regions of the country. Let's stop relying on crude oil because, we were all living before the discovery of the crude oil. It will discourage those politicians from non oil and rich states whose interests in politics is to come and embezzle money from participating in politics. Etc

chigoizie7:
I don't know why people will always focus on attacking the "messenger" instead of the "message" passed.

For the past 50yrs, we have all known that oil is a course to this nation.

ND and their 13% is not an exception here.
All those oil producing state all have governors that are not serious about looking elsewhere. They are all bent on lavishing state funds. They all seek to be elected so that they will loot.

I am not saying that the Anambra state governor or lagos state governor are not corrupt or are the best.

But these two states are both none oil producing, whatever is achieved in those states so far is from their initiatives on how to generate funds in other sectors of the economy(it also boosts the economy and bring about creativity). It takes a man with zeal to think outside the box.


Unlike other governors of oil producing states that seek for elections so that they will embezzle the treasury. Other rich and educated people from none oil producing states seek for political offices even when they know that the state has nothing to embezzle, it shows that they are ready to make something out of nothing and for that very fact, it will also be likened that all the 36states can survive without oil the same way these few states has been serving without loans, bail out or special derivations from sale of oil.

Many state governors in Nigeria both in oil producing states and none oil producing states all depend on what will come out from the centre. They always go to sleep, knowing fully well that by the end of the month, FG will share money amongst the states and if the money is not enough, they will press for bail outs. They will owe salaries and people that are being owed by the states will blame the FG on behalf of their governors. WHY? because everyone now depends on FG. They no longer hold their governors accountable, they now hold FG.

Eg, if a state governor refuses to renovate a state owned skul, instead of blaming and calling the governor to other, u will see people blaming buhari( I am not a fan of buhari, infact I hate his guts, but we must always say the truth). WHY? because our mindset is all focused on OIL and who controls The oil? The FG. And that is why all states and all Nigerians look up to FG.

My question is, if FG does everything from FG > STATES > LG > COUNCILS, why then where governors, local government chairmen and councillors elected in the 1stplace?

BMB just used anambra to drive home his points.


He would have made reference to bayelsa, but they are already a failed state. And bring them to play in his tweet objective will only but rubbish the message he was about passing out.




Anambra has been looking inward.

Anambra has oil deposits (plenty to last them over the next 50yrs).

Anambra also has natural gas deposits in abundance.

Anambra is also blessed to survive without the two natural resources mentioned.

Anambra believes that they can thread anywhere that is dreaded by others.

This mindset is not just for the govt, anambra indigens believe that govt can not do anything for them to better their individual lives and that is why all is trying in his or her own little way to be industrious and successful @least to be self sufficient.


An anmabra man will spit on u if u dash him money instead of teaching him how to make money. We believe that "nothing" is free on earth, more reason we work hard to achieve what we want.

And that mindset of its people is helping the govt. Of anambra state.









Ben bruce only want all nigerians to think like anambra people,we wants all of us to shift our focus away from oil and explore other avenues. And the best way to do that is by practising "true federalism". So that individual states will know it @ the back of their palms that if they don't work hard/smart, hunger will kill them (individuals and leaders alike). Because their won't be dependency on oil.


So that electorates will clean their eyes when electing lazy and fraudulent leaders or governors.

You've spoken well. The difference between Ndi Anambra and other Nigerians is the MINDSET. Like you said, Anambrarians don't believe that government will make them rich or successful in life, unlike most other parts of the country where governors literally talk politics from morning till night, traveling and attending parties because they are sure monthly allocation will come at the end of each month.