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Our dear Urhobo and Isoko leaders have started with their pragmatic sepatism again,those elders should go and sit down,is the struggle just for the ijaw man.When will they stop criminalising the Ijaw people for goodness sakes and let's all dwell in peace.The struggle serves a positive purpose not just for the Ijaw not for the Niger Delta alone cause ultimately it weakens the strong standpoint of foreign owners of regional assets and channels the path towards actual federalism and resource control and productivity which is what the nation needs.

Urhobo and Isoko elders and the constant divisions of ancient origins should know the young generation don't stick with them in their polarity but we stand to tackle issues much more truthfully true carel near and far conseuqneces of choices objectively..I rest my case.Off to church

I wish Kachikwu good luck. He has started what he cannot finish. Instead allowing politicians to handle this issue, he is going into a dangerous area. I only wish him luck.

Umm wat a state

hucienda:
Confusion everywhere

In politics we call it "divide and rule ". Divide the people ,don't let them have a unified voice ,eventually they will start fighting each other and abandon their common goal,

tbaba1234:
How is the FG stealing?? What have our governors done with the 13%derivation? Was the oil resource not developed with federal capital

I agree with resource control but I am afraid, it will just give our governors more to steal. Either way, let each state control their future and pay to the center.

stop bothering about how YOU THINK they'll squander THEIR own resources.

tooco:
stop bothering about how YOU THINK they'll squander THEIR own resources.

Oga, I am from the Niger Delta..

I'm sorry but the bolded is a dumb question.

Firstly, our system of government is archaic and mundane. Not compatible with the 21st century.

Secondly, what has other governors been doing with their 87% allocation from the Niger Delta?

Our leaders are corrupt but so is every leader in Nigeria. Corruption in all forms is bad, but you should hold other regions accountable first for the free allocation they have been receiving, not the Niger Delta.

tbaba1234:
How is the FG stealing?? What have our governors done with the 13%derivation? Was the oil resource not developed with federal capital

I agree with resource control but I am afraid, it will just give our governors more to steal. Either way, let each state control their future and pay to the center.

tinsel:
I wish Kachikwu good luck. He has started what he cannot finish. Instead allowing politicians to handle this issue, he is going into a dangerous area. I only wish him luck.

Kachikwu made mistake.

OK

why are urhobo and isoko always jealous of ijaws. ijaws are the pride and defenders of the Niger Delta.

So no be only Ijaw are terrorist, all other ND tribes are same.
Well no problem, this is clear indication that u cant never win even regional war cos u are not united.

papayeye:
http://thenationonlineng.net/fgijaw-talks-spark-ethnic-tension-niger-delta/

Frank Kokori and Co, what are your suggestions, treat them as criminals and go after them, you guys claim you know too much I would suggest you cohorts lead the assault against them.

The problem we face in the Niger Delta is more of a fundamental problem, you were one time a NUPENG executive what good did your office bring to the Niger Delta region, what legacy do you tenure leave, apart from your getting involved in fighting Abacus leaving your primary constituency to suffer, now you want the Avengers to be treated as criminals, if you had done your job well we would not have Avengers today, Frank Kokori I will advice you hide your face in shame and remain silent, you have nothing to offer us.

On the way forward, if the govt will be sincere in the negotiations and do the needful no group will come up again, sustainable developmental projects should be done in the region, that will take away militancy, massive infrastructural development should take place also this will get a lot of people busy

Millerz:
Writing in bold won't make your comment more accurate or dumb, if it already is.

Who is greedy here? The militants and the entire Niger Delta asking for True Federalism (control of their own wealth) , or the government that steals and has been stealing our oil wealth for decades now, giving us a meagre 13% while we bear the devastation??

TOUCH DOWN POINT!!!!!

Well said......................

tbaba1234:
Oga, I am from the Niger Delta..

we know ur kind of nd

Millerz:
I'm Urhobo but we can obviously see that this man isn't entirely condemning the actions of the militants. He is only doing so sentimentally. At the very least He subtly wants the federal government to replicate anything done for the ijaws in other parts of the Delta or risk the up spring of many other terrorist groups.

Whether or not the militants are fighting for their selfish interest is not my business because some of their demands are sensible and no one can deny.

The ND should be the most developed part of this country but it has been largely neglected by the FG. Oil companies that should have their headquarters in the ND have them at Lagos and Abuja, generating more revenue to those states while the communities where the crude is drilled are left devastated and its inhabitants living in penury.

Its quite obvious that negiotiating with the NDA won't stop the agitations, only True Federalism will and that's what every Niger Deltan wants.

I really want true federalism to come so we can see the laziness of the Niger Delta and it's inability to support itself and progress.

How can a community be developed when violence is the order of the day , where all foreign workers are kidnapped on sight and destruction of the little that is available is freely done without leaders speaking out against it.

The truth remains this struggle is selfish in its aim and has abused the collective plight of the average Niger delta in achieving it's personal goals of enrichment . What has dokubo , Tompolo Boyloaf etc done for Niger delta beyond receiving money every month, what has the NDDC done for communities in Niger delta , what have your local government chairmen,legislators and governors done. Nil is the answer and given these are the individuals who would be entrusted with your extra wealth come federalism what would change !

tbaba1234:
Oga, I am from the Niger Delta..

Muslim fanatic Auchi man claiming niger delta too. LMAO.
What resources does your Islamic Auchi have?

mrvitalis:
Ijaws always feeling like they are the only tribe in Niger Delta.... They know we're there boundary ends sha... .. The ijaws in delta should have be caved in to Bayelsa do we have peace.. . Let them kill themselves in that state

I will keep saying it ijaws are the worst tribe in this country... . Thank GOd the are not a major tribe.. ... we for hear am.. . Fulani would be a small case

Quite simply a case of ''focusing on the individual instead of the issue at hand''.

Naivety at work here!!!

Millerz:
I'm sorry but the bolded is a dumb question.

Firstly, our system of government is archaic and mundane. Not compatible with the 21st century.

Secondly, what has other governors been doing with their 87% allocation from the Niger Delta?

Our leaders are corrupt but so is every leader in Nigeria. Corruption in all forms is bad, but you should hold other regions accountable first for the free allocation they have been receiving, not the Niger Delta.

No one argues that the system must be reformed but if we are honest with ourselves, it will not happen until FG diversifies that economy to the extent that it feels comfortable doing it.

Now, the Niger Delta state get more allocation per capita than all the other states.. Why are our governors owing salaries? How many people are in Bayelsa, for instance? What was done with all the money when oil sold for record prices? The problem is not only a federal problem, it is at the local and state levels.. It is at the village level..

That said, the frustration in the Niger Delta is real and valid.. especially with the loss of economic activities.

NOETHNICITY:
I blame our surveillance and intelligence agencies especially the DSS. The DSS re not doing their job! I mean what does it really take to ve a comprehensive record and data of all these militants and prospective ones and place them on surveillance! The complacency of the DSS is shamefully dangerous! They re more busy today snuggling around government and state houses wearing big suits seemingly protecting high profile politicians. These militants were busy making threats and the DSS failed to be proactive. The FG posture today unfortunately is one dictated by circumstance! U ll agree with me that there are promises to be fulfilled and time is running out! I understnd that govt jus hve to look for a way round the whole debacle.

DSS? Bro The department had been compromised..When Buhari came to power he changed the face of the Department by replacing The Much experienced and Trained ones under Jonathan with Ordinarily Mobile Policemen who doesn't even know how to handle the DSS Sophisticated Weapon....you must have heard of the event tht too place some months back when an operative of Nigeria’s Secret Police, the Department of State Security Services (also called DSS or SSS) accidentally discharged his weapon in the presence of the visiting Danish Foreign Affairs Minister, Mr. Kristian Jensen". Which way my brother..I weep for this country

Ikwokrikwo:
Muslim fanatic Auchi man claiming niger delta too. LMAO.
What resources does your Islamic Auchi have?

I am not from Auchi..

malton:
The FG is setting a bad precedence there.

Like Idiovwa rightly pointed out, it will only serve to encourage criminality and instill a kind of, "yeah, that's how to grab them by the balls!" Feeling.

That was a sign of weakness on the part of the government.

A smarter move would have been to allow them carry out a couple more bombings, and then declare a state of emergency as a result. It would have made those nitwits sympathetic-to-their-cause government of theirs sit up. That's if they aren't even the instigators.

The government gave up way too soonn. Sad thing is, they did in a cowardly manner while they were so close to achieving results!

The govt gave up way too soon? Thank God we are not in their shoes. The bad precedent was PMB cutting the budget to the region as he did and provoking them. That was 8 years of work down d drain. The amnesty programme had stabilized and how much were spending. Then the new Sherrif destroyed it all. Now we hear there are many ethnic groups. This is what happens when a leader is ignorant of d structure of his environment. Sad to say, PMB really does not know Nigeria's geography or ethnic groups. I am sure all this Urhobo thing is sounding like French to him. It will be fought to recover. The budget has already been passed. So, how do u convince them?

Puresolutions:
Our dear Urhobo and Isoko leaders have started with their pragmatic sepatism again,those elders should go and sit down,is the struggle just for the ijaw man.When will they stop criminalising the Ijaw people for goodness sakes and let's all dwell in peace.The struggle serves a positive purpose not just for the Ijaw not for the Niger Delta alone cause ultimately it weakens the strong standpoint of foreign owners of regional assets and channels the path towards actual federalism and resource control and productivity which is what the nation needs.

Urhobo and Isoko elders and the constant divisions of ancient origins should know the young generation don't stick with them in their polarity but we stand to tackle issues much more truthfully true carel near and far conseuqneces of choices objectively..I rest my case.Off to church

Very sensible post!!!!

Millerz:
I'm sorry but the bolded is a dumb question.

Firstly, our system of government is archaic and mundane. Not compatible with the 21st century.

Secondly, what has other governors been doing with their 87% allocation from the Niger Delta?

Our leaders are corrupt but so is every leader in Nigeria. Corruption in all forms is bad, but you should hold other regions accountable first for the free allocation they have been receiving, not the Niger Delta.

Great response!

Millerz:
I'm Urhobo but we can obviously see that this man isn't entirely condemning the actions of the militants. He is only doing so sentimentally. At the very least He subtly wants the federal government to replicate anything done for the ijaws in other parts of the Delta or risk the up spring of many other terrorist groups.

Whether or not the militants are fighting for their selfish interest is not my business because some of their demands are sensible and no one can deny.

The ND should be the most developed part of this country but it has been largely neglected by the FG. Oil companies that should have their headquarters in the ND have them at Lagos and Abuja, generating more revenue to those states while the communities where the crude is drilled are left devastated and its inhabitants living in penury.

Its quite obvious that negotiating with the NDA won't stop the agitations, only True Federalism will and that's what every Niger Deltan wants.

My worry with the Niger Delta is the fact that the Federal Government has to come down to us and do things for us. What have the Governors been doing for the past how many years? Yes, there is a strong need to develop the Niger Delta. It cannot be in the same state it is today,polluted,ravaged by both the government, vandals and militants, and yet provides the major income for the whole country's development. But from another spectrum, Apart from some Federal Projects, the State and Local Councils are practically doing nothing with Federal allocations and none of them has been interested in pegging the holes of corruption and wastage or fostering unity.

So, while I think it is unfair on part of the FG not to allow more control of the resources and revenue from this region under the principles of true federalism, what have we done with the little we have had? Remember/recall the Parable of the Servant and Talents? Have the Niger Deltan Leaders been able to unite the various tribes and ethnic groups or divide them? Have they put the people first of have they used the people to amass wealth and power? What have we done for ourselves with the little opportunities? We have had Ministers, Vice President, President, Chief Judges, Heads of Government MDAs, etc. We've headed the Petroleum Ministry, DPR, NPDC, NIMASA, NNPC, NAFCON (of blessed memory), etc. etc. etc.

In my opinion, 100 Googol dollars will do only little (perhaps 1 borehole) in the Niger Delta if it's leader do not put such funds to a united, good,sensible and prudent use. Even if 500 ministries of Niger Delta affairs are created and 1000 NDDCs, the funds will still find a way of leaking out if the leaders and politicians do not direct themselves towards working for the masses and the people. Also we need to hold these leaders to account and channel our bravery into ensuring accountability by the Government not only at the Federal Level, but at the State, Local Government and Ward Level.

Tinubu remains the biggest Looter in Nigeria's history. so I ask, what has your grand looter done with for the average Yoruba on the street. Kidnapping is now rampant all over Nigeria, not the Delta alone. Moreover when was the last time you heard of a foreigner being kidnapped?? pls say what you know.

And once again I repeat, you have no right to condemn the avengers. All other leader and past governor has been corrupt in Nigeria so why single out the avengers?, are they the cause of the bad roads, epileptic electricity, decapitated health care system and mushroom educational sector in Nigeria today?

You whine about how lazy the Niger Delta youths are... How many people do you think benefit from the fraud (aka amnesty program), huh? I bet its its less than 0.01%. So tell us, how hard working the Yoruba's and Hausa/Fulani's are. If they're that hardworking,,why go to Abuja monthly for free money??

sweetgala:
I really want true federalism to come so we can see the laziness of the Niger Delta and it's inability to support itself and progress.

How can a community be developed when violence is the order of the day , where all foreign workers are kidnapped on sight and destruction of the little that is available is freely done without leaders speaking out against it.

The truth remains this struggle is selfish in its aim and has abused the collective plight of the average Niger delta in achieving it's personal goals of enrichment . What has dokubo , Tompolo Boyloaf etc done for Niger delta beyond receiving money every month, what has the NDDC done for communities in Niger delta , what have your local government chairmen,legislators and governors done. Nil is the answer and given these are the individuals who would be entrusted with your extra wealth come federalism what would change !

mrvitalis:
Ijaws always feeling like they are the only tribe in Niger Delta.... They know we're there boundary ends sha... .. The ijaws in delta should have be caved in to Bayelsa do we have peace.. . Let them kill themselves in that state

I will keep saying it ijaws are the worst tribe in this country... . Thanks so GOd the are not a major tribe.. ... we for hear am.. . Fulani would be a small case

honestly, you've view all the bad direction on this case. May God blessings u ma brother.

criminals everywhere

Divide and rule, after deceving them that the Igbos is there problem, now they are deceiving the naija deltan that ijaw now is there problem, wake up Naija deltan for how long would they be dividing and ruling you people.

Efe3:
some Urhobos too dey do!

so if some alleged Ijaw militants do not rise up to fight against the injustice done to them, Urhobos will stay down being 'law' abiding citizens?

nevertheless, the Urhobos and Isokos have benefited over the years by dominating the state civil service and pulling strings in the state government. all what they've done is rush at crumbs - FG allocation and 13% derivation.

These supposed Ijaw militants appear as wanting to make things change from the federal level vizaviz True federalism, Resource control, Regionalism and Self determination.

is because urhobos and isokos are more educated than ijaws lazy people.