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| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by honourhim: 1:51am On Jun 14, 2016 |
HopeAtHand:Hopeless and useless Ikwerre. This simply shows you cant produce any Ikwerre name that can match the prominent igbo sons i mentioned. The only defence where you can run for cover is on a negative igbo man. What a shame. If i mention the prominent igbo names to some other successful tribes, they will pull out a list of their prominent sons and daughter's to match ours . That's how those who are proud of their success match challenges. But a hopeless and bacward Ikwerre has none to present . What a hopeless set you people are. Shame on you drowning Ikwerre |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Ariani: 1:54am On Jun 14, 2016 |
I find it interesting that Ikwerres in NL had all gone mute, and allowed a Yoruba impostor to represent them here. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Ikechu68: 1:55am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ariani:Imagine. The only reason I'm fighting him for Ikwerre is because I know how it feels. When I first joined NL, there used to be alot of yoloba pretending to Anioma. I recall how Anioma was the set receiving the insult almost daily from SE because of those fools. If not for I, Melzabull, Chyz, I forgot his name but it's some ika dude, etc descending on the "Anioma" that are quick to invade any SE thread to insult and attack them. If not for me and the rest of the anioma members that used to be on NL, those pretenders would never have been exposed. We would have been insulted alot. So I know how it feels. I can't stand Ikwerre, no doubt in my mind. But I won't sit around and let a yoloba coward use them as shield. Why yoloba always masking to every ethnicity and even race they can think of before speaking their tongue is beyond me. Shameless pigs. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by honourhim: 2:02am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ikechu68:. . Oh.. Ok.. I didnt know him before now. However his hatred for igbos is a total waste because it is of no effect on us. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by honourhim: 2:05am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ikechu68:Daalu Nwanne anyi. God bless you. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 2:08am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ariani:Aha! It's now you are talking. Your attempt to attach Edo to Yoruba is informed by war memories which have however been debunked here, and not based on ethnology or cultural considerations. Sad to inform you that the Ijaws and Itsekiris in Edo can't join Delta because they are hedged into Edo by other Edoid tribes. If they could have been in Delta then they would have really been carved into it. Moreover the Delta you so badly want has Itsekiris who are more or less Yorubas and as well cracked down on Biafra too in revenge for Ifeajuna's murder of Okotie-Eboh their son. Even on the war issue Edo/Deltans had to protect themselves from Igbos' unprovoked invasion of their land. Igbos killed us so you wouldn't expect us to fold our arms. Moreover Most SS states ditched Biafra and worked to thwart it like Edo did. So by that logic of yours all SS states are now lesser Yorubas. Bayels State is now lesser Yorubas because Isaac Boro joined the Nigerian Side to crush Biafra. Very interesting! Other SS states may wish to join Biafra but never Edo/Delta. Mark it! |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 2:15am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ikechu68:Whose is dragging Anioma? You rather tell your brother to stop dragging Edo into his threads and comments. Why did he ever mention my name on this thread? What is my business with Ikwerre and Igbo rivalry? Your brother dragged me first. So tell him to stopp dragging me into his poo. We are not your mates in any way. Simple! |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Ariani: 2:19am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:What are you blabbing about, the coup originator, Nzeogwu was a mid westerner, an Anioma, Ifeajuna is an Onitsha man, but Onitsha also has Anioma ancestry. Like Igboland was Balkanized after we lost the civil war, so was Anioma Balkanized after the lost the Ekumeku war against the British:https://www.nairaland.com/561937/ekumeku-movement-igbo-version-mau Your Okotie story is a made up story. Isaac Boro might have being on the FG side, but there were many other Ijaws on Biaf**** side like Frank Opigo. Edo will never be part of Bia***, Mark it down, you belong with Yorubas. As for Delta, I reckon Anioma will end up with us, I don't know about the Edoids, they are independent. On the war Issue, the Igbos the Edos killed in Bini city and all over Midwest were not Igbos of the East, they were Igbos of the Midwest, aka Anioma, aka SS people today, go figure! It's not just about Edo role in the war, it's the fact that everything about Edo reeks of Yoruba. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 2:58am On Jun 14, 2016*. Modified: 3:26am On Jun 14, 2016 |
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| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 3:22am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ariani:I have never heard or read an Anioma person claim Edos killed them in the War. Only SE Igbos make this claim thus it reeks of mischief and falsehood. Biafran soldiers actually started their bloodletting from Benin on those who supported the openly declared neutrality. Such were tortured, killed, raped (if female) because they were Northerners' friends according to Biafra Soldiers. You obviously are ignorant of Edo culture and value system to be comparing it with Yoruba or even any other tribe in Nigeria. Edo, yes, has aversion for Igbo because of their war aggression on Benin. Edos don't joke with their royal pride as a kingdom, so anything that threatens to undermine their cultural heritage is not tolerated at all. Edo fought itself out of western Region because they could not stomach having Benin their spiritual capital being under Ibadan admistration wise. Same reason why we detest anything biafra as it would place Enugu as capital over Benin. That will be too unacceptable! Politically we flow more with yorubas because we share the same realistic ideology unlike Igbos who ignore reality and fantasize about an idealistic one Nigeria. But remember that Imo state too has always drifted away from mainstream Igbo political leaning towards realistic politicking so much now that APC (assumed Yoruba party) rules it by winning transparent election, and that does not make them Yorubas. Nzeogwu was not even really the coup leader. His name only came to stick on it due to his own unique bravery and genuinely nationalistic intents for the coup. The real leader of the coup was Ifeajuna from today's SE. There was also a Yoruba man among them and they all worked together to kill mostly innocent men, women and unborn children. There was no Edo man in that evil plot. Edos and Edoids generally don't believe in shedding innocent blood especially of outsiders, and that was why David Ejoor never fancied the idea of a coup. So why should Edos and Edoids have allowed themselves to, in the name of protecting Igbos, share in the consequences of a bloodshed they did not participate in? It does not make sense. After all Enahoro was jailed by igbos in collusion with Hausas. Edos associate based on ideology hence Enahoro was first an ally of Zik on sensing his level of education but later had to abandon Zik and move over to Awo's side when he discovered that Zik was not of a stable character. The Jan 1966 coup and Biafra war were all between Hausa, Yorubas and Igbos. Edos and Edoids had no business in them. In fact they declared neutrality which the Federal forces respected but which Biafra dishonoured. If it were a Yoruba army that invaded Benin while ojukwu did not, Enahoro would have joined Ojukwu to flush them out and massacre them. Home interest first before any other. It is in the national archives that Ifeajuna fired Okotie-Eboh but left Zik who actually was his boss in the crime of fraternizing with the north. We have not forgiven. And to be candid we see Igbos as same of the same with the North since they've always aligned more with Hausa-Fulani against the South and more than any other Southern group. We see them as more positively disposed to Hausa-Fulanis and sharing their political value systems than with the South. They may quarrel and kill one another but they soon make it up and come to alliance again. But we find it irritating. So we don't like that North-centric value system in Igbos. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Ikechu68: 3:47am On Jun 14, 2016 |
HopeAtHand:You are more idiotic than I thought. So this imaginary "state secretariat" told you Ogoni claims Oyigbo LGA belongs to them. So na for mouth them tell the imaginary "state secretariat"? There is no documentation ANYWHERE where the Ogoni made such claim. Infact, the only documentation we have when Ogoni spoke about Ndoki prior to the war labeled them as Igbo. But somehow a "state secretariat" told you otherwise. Yeah me too. I had a discussion with Barack Obama and he told me America belongs to Anioma that's why it starts with A. While I'm at it. Oyigbo LGA was never part of River state prior to Biafra you numbnut. Typical yoloba clown with zero knowledge forming history teacher. Oyigbo was carved out of Abia state and renamed in 1976 by Justice Mamman Nasir as a way to stop any chance of Biafra occurring again. Everybody knows that history including the community in question. These are quotes directly from Oyigbo people Lagos — Complaints of marginalisation have resurrected an age-old agitation by the people of Oyigbo local government in Rivers State for a merger with their kith and kin in Abia State.A FB article about Igbo unity written by Ndaa Issac (an Oyigbo indigenous) HOW THEY DIVIDED US AND PITCHED US AGAINST ONE ANOTHER:
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| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Ikechu68: 3:54am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:Who the Bleep told you this rubbish. It is on record that Edo people went all over pointing anioma to be killed during Biafra war. Every single survivor named you lot. We know our history and no amount of distortion or blaming SE changes WTF we went through under you lot. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by SlayerSupreme: 4:28am On Jun 14, 2016 |
It's a pity a Benin man was called in here. #spits |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by ShameOwoda: 7:27am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ikechu68, you are indeed a General, you deserve a medal of honour. So HopeAtHand is yoruba ![]() |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by HopeAtHand: 7:32am On Jun 14, 2016 |
ShameOwoda:Please will you desist from quoting me on the morning of a workday. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by B2mario(m): 8:57am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Abagworo:free her jare. Igbos run a free society where everybody voice can be heard and their aspirations defended. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 9:45am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Ikechu68:Then why has no Anioma person ever come out publicly to so claim? Can you give us any link to prove that? The deadly truth is that it was even Anioma army officers that colluded with Ojukwu to invade Midwest. If Edos killed Aniomas during the war then why do Aniomas still dedicate certain integral roles to the Oba of Benin's representatives during the coronation of traditional rulers in Anioma land? Those pointed out to the federal forces were Biafran soldiers who were murdering civilians before the FG was invited in by the locals. Edo was initially sympathetic to Biafra until the Biafran soldiers lost courtesy and discipline. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Nobody: 8:03am On Jun 17, 2016 |
HopeAtHand:I wonder what happened to you when you were a child...you must have hit ur head real hard. This is very Donald trumpy of you...and that's a horrible thing cos ure not even as important as he is....and you're talking all this bs. Smh. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by B2mario(m): 12:16pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:Oga yorubas were the initiators of the coup, they brought Igbos in because of their bravery and dumped them when they saw the implications. they plotted the coup so as to free awolowo and eliminate those they perceived as Awo's enemy, mainly northern leaders and few Yoruba leader like the then premier of western region and his allies. relax one day, the truth must be revealed. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 4:50pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
B2mario:I disagree that Yorubas initiated the coup. One thing that was very clear was that both Ifeajuna (the actual arrowhead of the coup) and Nzeogwu had tremendous reverence and respect for Awolowo. Nwobosi (the Ibadan axis commander of the coup) recently granted a press interview in which he declared that among all the leading politicians back then (i.e. Balewa, Bello, Zik, Awolowo, Okpara, Akintola, and Okotie-Eboh) only Awolowo could not be classified as a mediocre hence the original plan of himself, Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu was to kill all those directly and indirectly involved in Awolowo's imprisonment and then free Awolowo and forcefully install him as the prime minister whether he liked it or not. Don't forget that Ifeajuna schooled in UI which was the first University in Nigeria and established by Awolowo. Nzeogwu was a no nonsense and 100% detribalized and ascetic army officer who was disgusted by the governing style of the coalition between Bello, Balewa, Zik, Okotie-Eboh and Akintola, so much that only in Awolowo he saw an excellent alternative. Why those young military men were so convinced of Awolowo remains a puzzle however. So it was clear that it was not really a Yoruba coup but a patriotic coup in conception but tribalized by Ifeajuna at execution stage. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by B2mario(m): 6:17pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:I don't like it when somebody is not being truthful. Are you trying to tell me that you can't read? what I said is no longer news, it's everywhere for us to read. Hausa hid the truth inorder to get the support of the yorubas because they can't fight Igbos and the yorubas at the same time. And at the same time the two group had one thing in common, that is, envy of Igbo progress in scheme of Nigerian politics. they seized the coup as an opportunity to eliminate the Igbos in the helm of affair. Oga take this for the last time, the devilish Awolowo was the person who initiated the coup while in prison through maj. Adewale, captain. Adeleke and Lt. Oyewole. Gowon and other Nigerian high rank officials knew about this. Awolowo was the first to call for secession of western region from Nigeria. And the worst part of it, is that when he came out from prison he even sided Nigeria to victimised the Easterners while he knew that they went to war because of what he initiated. But thank God he did not die a happy man. That man destroyed this country with his devilish ideology. Ask yourself, why did Babangida failed to give him state burial? |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by B2mario(m): 6:24pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
check this: Officers involved The list below shows the officers involved on both sides of the coup as well as their ethnic backgrounds. Conspirators 1. Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu(Igbo) 2. Major Adewale Ademoyega (Yoruba) author of "Why we struck" 3. Capt. G. Adeleke(Yoruba) 4. Maj. Ifeajuna(Igbo) 5. Lt. Fola Oyewole(Yoruba) authorof "The reluctant rebel" 6. Lt. R. Egbiko(Esean) 7. Lt. Tijani Katsina(Hausa/ Fulani) 8. Lt. O. Olafemiyan(Yoruba) 9. Capt. Gibson Jalo(Bali) 10. Capt. Swanton(Middle Belt) 11. Lt. Hope Harris Eghagha (Urhobo) 12. Lt. Dag Warribor(Ijaw) 13. 2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo(Hausa) 14. 2nd Lt. John Atom Kpera (Tiv). |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 8:29pm On Jun 19, 2016*. Modified: 9:01pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
B2mario:I normally don't give audience to people who can't debate without insults. That you hate Awolowo does not give you a licence to resort to abusive language with anyone who does not share your view about him. How could Hausas have hidden the truth about an issue documented in the US library and British catalogue? You are just too emotional. When Awolowo plotted a coup as a free man outside prison he was found out. Then how could he have plotted a coup from inside prison without being found out? Emotions are clearly overshadowing your logical processes. If you were honest you would have acknowledged that it was even Zik that contributed most to the forceful marriage of Nigeria. In 1954 Northerners declared that they were not ready for independence and that the South should go on its way but Zik decided to have independence delayed till the North was ready to join Nigeria. Also the same Zik vehemently opposed the inclusion of seccession clause in the independence constitution claiming that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable. In fact when Enahoro and Awolowo moved a motion for the inclusion of secession clause it was Zik and his followers who mocked them and termed them tribalists who did not love to see a "united" Nigeria. Is Nigeria now united even with the non-inclusion of the clause? When Awolowo wanted secession to be put in the constitution Zik refused and called him a tribalist who did not want "One-Nigeria", so when Zik too later wanted secession Awolowo too refused and opted for "One-Nigeria". If I were in Awolowo's shoes I will do the same. How can you mock me as a tribalist for making a realistic demand and then when you later turn around to ask for that same thing and expect me to support you? I will never support you! |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by 99xtr99r: 9:01pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
After all the desperation and repetition of misinformation and lies by confused hypocrites, the fact still remains that self-determination remains an inalienable right of a people. Igbos cannot be blackmailed into sharing a country with verm1ns and vagabonds parading as 'One-Nigeria' apologists. Igbos are comfortable having a separate existence from greedy parasites cum treacherous backst*bbers. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Deadlytruth(m): 9:06pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
B2mario:Can you also highlight exactly the roles played by these other officers you listed in addition to the main four Igbo guys who did all the shooting and killing? The coup was an Igbo coup not by the composition of planners but by the tribally biased manner of execution. Please also provide an equally long list of Igbo civilians and Igbo military officers that were killed in the coup, then I'll believe it was planned by Yorubas. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by dreamworld: 9:21pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Ikechu68:Dont mind dem cowards
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| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by dreamworld: 9:23pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
honourhim:He is a yoruba man, he confessed one time ago
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| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Igboid: 9:59pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:Can you provide just one colonial document, where the British granted any of the Nigerian region the right to secede? How exactly can Zik, a civilian with no military back up force Yorubas and the North into Nigerian project? Are you even listening to yourself? The North was not ready for independence, yes, but there was never a time the British granted any of the regions leeway to secede. It was never on the agenda. If Awo wanted to secede, all needed do was declare the Western region an independent region, but Awo was scared of the repercussion, so he hid behind Zik and the North to demand for secession clause, when he knew a too well that the British were not open to Nigeria dIsintegration. If Awo declared Independence and Zik mobilized Igbo soldiers to fight him, you would have had a point, but as it stands, you are assigning supernatural powers to Zik, by insinuating that he forced the West and North into the Nigerian union. You simply have no point. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Igboid: 10:08pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
On the January coup, I had since decided that Awo was the masterminder of the coup, I had given reasons why I thought so. And oh, Awo was no way a saint before the January coup, so saying that the coup planners singled him out for enthronment because he was not a mediocre or not corrupt like the Rest is a bit funny. Awo was found guilty of financial crime and of treason. He was a convicted criminal that was tried in a civilian court of justice and found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt of all the corruption and treason charges leveled against him. I know that this is a difficult fact for Awo supporters to accept, and they felt Two was wrongly judged, but the truth remain that the presiding judge was a Yoruba, and Awo was tried according to all the principles of Nigerian judiciary ssystem, and was rightly condemned as a Criminal. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Igboid: 10:27pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
[b] Now let me give you reasons why Nzeogwu coup was not to Igbo advantage. 1. Igbo controlled two of the four regions of Nigeria before Nzeogwu coup. Osadebey and Okpara were the premiers of the Midwestern and Eastern regions respectively. 2. The regions enjoyed enormous powers, so much that Akintola's New coalition with the North would matter less, seeing as the two Igbo controlled regions just newly discovered oil wealth, and with the 50:50 revenue sharing formula between the region and the FG then, control of the East and Midwest was more lucrative than control of the FG. 3. How exactly did Ironsi centralization ish favour Ndiigbo, when it now meant that we had to share the newly discovered crude oil wealth of the Midwest and East with the North and the West, haven't we been accused of wanting Biafra just to corner the crude oil wealth of ND, how exactly would centralization of the government, help Ndiigbo to corner the crude oil, don't you think that regionalism was a better way to go, if the theory of Igbo greed for crude oil must hold? 4. The crude wealth of the Midwest and East would have put Ndiigbo millions of miles away from the North and the West, once we allowed the minorities to have an upper hand in the wealth. Nzeogwu coup was totally anti Igbo. It eliminated Akintola, Awo's nemesis. With Akintola alive, Yorubas would remain divided between Awo and Akintola, making their exploitation easier. Akintola death freed Awo, United Yorubas who then worked against Ndiigbo as a United front. [/b] |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by Igboid: 10:37pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Why the coup is strongly linked to Awo. 1. The coup planners already said that they intended to enthrone, Awo, a convicted criminal found guilty of financial crimes and treason in a civilian law court and sentenced to prison. 2. The coup ended up eliminating Awo's staunch enemies, ie Akintola and Balewa, the two main people he and his fans accused of masterminding his incarceration. 3. With Akintola alive, Awo would have ended up the way of Abiola, he would have died in prison, as Akintola would have naturally sought to consolidate power, and would ultimately know that that will depend on permanently eliminating Awo from the picture. 4. Awo had previously been found guilty of masterminding a civilian hostile take over and toppling of Balewa's government, this and his later failed attempt at toppling IBB government, are great pointers to the ruthlessness of Awo and the extent he could go to acquire power, it also lends credence to the fact that Awo was well capable of masterminding a coup. |
| Re: Ikwerre - Igbo - 22 MISINFORMATION ON IGBOS by meccuno: 10:59pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Ikechu68:the beauty about e-wars is that certain people bring out information that are needed for those who want to understand more. The person who posted this might not understand, but he has done me personally a lot of service. This is what I have always been searching for. And for those igbos who make it a point of duty to bring out these information,may you never be weary. Because you never might know the igbos who would retrace their steps and realise who they really are. |
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