₦airaland Forum

thunder74:
This is not your area and I dont think you are an authority on a legal matter.
The constitution says you cant prosecute governors and President in court while in office and can the same court give an order over a man he does not have power to prosecute. He could be investigated but no court can make an order that will affect his person or property while he is still the governor. Nemo dat qua non abet the court cant give what it does not have. Before the experte application, EFCC must have applied like "EFCC vs FAYOSE", and once that name is presented before any responsible court, the application should be declined. Between the constitution and EFCC Act which should prevail? I think we should stop supporting illegalities because it is Fayose today, it may be your turn tomorrow.

Firstly, there is no conflict between the EFCC Act ad the CFR.

Secondly, if the act empowers the commission to freeze any account under investigation, and the SC ruled that even a President can be investigated, then I see no argument of yours.

As for the court order, you can only assume but it remains that provided the order is made by the court, it is legal.

As for Aisha, I dont have any problem with her. I want her to go to USA today or anytime soon to put Fayose and Co. to shame that she is not wanted in the USA. Have you not observed that with all the money and influence Atiku has with diplomatic passport, Atiku does not visit USA.

The point is?

TonyeBarcanista:
I don't even get your point.

1. Nobody is arguing that there was no 'certain' Aisha Buhari but the problem is the Halibutton Buhari is an IMPOSTOR.

2. The Halibut ton Buhari claimed to be the DAUGHTER of PMB And not WIFE. Is there any Aisha Buhari in PMB children?

3. Can Mrs Buharo double as both the Daughter and the wife of Buhari?

4. If EFCC Chairman Ribadu(as at then) and then Head of Operations Ibrahim could not establish any relationship between PMB and the impostor as at 2006, then how come you now link to the Wife? Do you have more information than the investigating body?

5. What is your argument?

and pls I never made any reference to any passport. I am working on available information.

1. Post the correct link of Buhari speaking about he has no daughter. The one you posted has nothing to do with the topic. I would like to read the full article where it says Aisha Buhari is middle aged.

2. If I was Aisha I would say I was the daughter of a former US College War School/ Former US President instead of Wife look at the age difference who would know? The scandal would be ugly and they can deny daughter later. It is how I would handle it and how they did.

3. Last Point just put your first lady in one of the 12 Presidential planes and fly to DC and have her meet with Michelle Obama before she leaves office, if she can do bring back our girls let her save them on this one too.

TonyeBarcanista:
I read the link and the "source".

Firstly, the so called 'interview' appeared like one done in someone's bedroom by a blogger. Meaning there was no interview.

Secondly, this case did not start today. The claimed Aisha Buharo even claimed to be DAUGHTER not Wife of PMB and was found to be fraud. The subject even testified in court. The subject is nor invisible.

Thirdly, where are bosses Lalasticlala and Dominique?

link of the testimony please?

Bitterleafsoup:
1. Post the correct link of Buhari speaking about he has no daughter. The one you posted has nothing to do with the topic. I would like to read the full article where it says Aisha Buhari is middle aged.

Three years ago, Aisha Buhari, a middle-aged Nigerian woman, stood at a perfume counter inside a Washington pharmacy and, according to an African immigrant named Joshua Assiba who said he was also there, bought thousands of dollars of merchandise.

“You must be a rich woman, looking at the way you dress and spend money,”

Mr. Assiba recalls telling Ms. Buhari. As the pair struck up a conversation and subsequently became friends, Mr. Assiba, then a security guard, said she told him [b]that her father was the former military ruler of Nigeria, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, and that her American friends included politicians like Mr. Jefferson of Louisiana.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/business/yourmoney/29lobby.html?pagewanted=all&referer=

I am surprised that you didn't see this in the link. I hope you read the link?

2. If I was Aisha I would say I was the daughter of a former US College War School/ Former US President instead of Wife look at the age difference who would know? The scandal would be ugly and they can deny daughter later. It is how I would handle it and how they did.

3. Last Point just put your first lady in one of the 12 Presidential planes and fly to DC and have her meet with Michelle Obama before she leaves office, if she can do bring back our girls let her save them on this one too.

Like I said, the impostor was a fraud that engaged in fraud.

AK481:
link of the testimony please?

Mr. Ribadu’s agency has asked American authorities to arrest Ms. Buhari. That has not happened, but the Justice Department has an interest in her. Last summer, she testified before a grand jury investigating Mr. Jefferson, the congressman, who is suspected of soliciting bribes from American companies seeking business in Nigeria.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/business/yourmoney/29lobby.html?pagewanted=all&referer=


What else?

TonyeBarcanista:
Three years ago, Aisha Buhari, a middle-aged Nigerian woman, stood at a perfume counter inside a Washington pharmacy and, according to an African immigrant named Joshua Assiba who said he was also there, bought thousands of dollars of merchandise.

“You must be a rich woman, looking at the way you dress and spend money,”

Mr. Assiba recalls telling Ms. Buhari. As the pair struck up a conversation and subsequently became friends, Mr. Assiba, then a security guard, said she told him [b]that her father was the former military ruler of Nigeria, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, and that her American friends included politicians like Mr. Jefferson of Louisiana.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/business/yourmoney/29lobby.html?pagewanted=all&referer=

I am surprised that you didn't see this in the link. I hope you read the link?


Like I said, the impostor was a fraud that engaged in fraud.

Click on your link up there is this a trick from LiMo Academy it goes to some golf thing in Oyo.

TonyeBarcanista:
I don't even get your point.

1. Nobody is arguing that there was no 'certain' Aisha Buhari but the problem is the Halibutton Buhari is an IMPOSTOR.

2. The Halibut ton Buhari claimed to be the DAUGHTER of PMB And not WIFE. Is there any Aisha Buhari in PMB children?

3. Can Mrs Buharo double as both the Daughter and the wife of Buhari?

4. If EFCC Chairman Ribadu(as at then) and then Head of Operations Ibrahim could not establish any relationship between PMB and the impostor as at 2006, then how come you now link to the Wife? Do you have more information than the investigating body?

5. What is your argument?

and pls I never made any reference to any passport. I am working on available information.

Don't stress yourself. Some people have blanked out their thinking faculties and mindsets. No amount of explanation will do. They have refused to move on even when GEJ the principal actor has moved on.

Quit trying to make sense to people who have chosen to block their brains with hatred for Buhari and his government.

Lord knows most of us already have. Good piece.

TonyeBarcanista:
Like I said, the impostor was a fraud that engaged in fraud.

Take notice that the "impostor" did not collect money from the Mr. Jefferson, the congressman, but paid money into his account. Did she commit fraud by paying her own money into his account. 170K USD is not a small money. Could that be called fraud or gift or bribe?

TonyeBarcanista.
You like politics and also like being honest most a times.
The thing is this in politics Honesty can cost you more or earn you more.

Politics don't do well with honesty.

Then.......
Amachi terrorised Goodluck Jonathan (e dey sweet APC)
Now.......
Fayose is making President M. Buhari sick (PDP).
Them say first to do no dey pain, na the last person own dey red eye.

Its just funny how 1 gov can shake the presidency making headlines n the President no fit do anything......waiting for Buhari to prob the APC ppl sha......
Where Obasanjo dey?
Tinubu nkor.......Amachi kwanu?

TonyeBarcanista:
Haba... I don't think there would be any. Wetin concern IPOB struggle and Fayose account?

My Brother, na dem cary Fayose matter for head pass. Even Ekiti people no send am. They commend him for any propaganda he initiate against PMB's government.

AtlanticBreeze:
let them take this junk to homepage as usual.... Rubbish

Op, i no tell you? One by one dey don dey come.

Aisha buhari is a fool.
Sly hole

modath:
No comment, Just here to observe the drama Barca's "connect" will stage...





*MODIFIED*

Tonye, since Shekau Sheriff staged an "hostile takeover" of PDP from you guys, you've become "objective" once again.....

[size=13pt]I don't think it is the correct thing to judge one's degree of objectivity on an issue based on if his opinion favours your preferred side of the political divide. Tonye is right on this one and my observation of him is that he has always been objective. [/size]

Huuuuuh is that so...... Aisha buhari is a fool.
Sly hole

Bitterleafsoup:
Click on your link up there is this a trick from LiMo Academy it goes to some golf thing in Oyo.

OH GOD... Just Read and stop basing judgement on headlines.



Jeez

Almaiga:
Op, i no tell you? One by one dey don dey come.

I'm not a zombie, I'm not dumb.. you hear?

coolscott:
[size=13pt]I don't think it is the correct thing to judge one's degree of objectivity on an issue based on if his opinion favours your preferred side of the political divide. Tonye is right on this one and my observation of him is that he has always been objective. [/size]

Thank you bros.

[quote author=AtlanticBreeze post=46824623]I'm not a zombie, I'm not dumb.. you hear? [,]

Eyah, epain am

There is a Constitutional Objectives and Directive Principles of Applying all constitutional provisions and all Quasi laws and regulations that they might not hurt directly or indirectly the 3Tiers of the system and the Electoral and constitutional Powers of the Presidency and the 36 Executive Governance. The Principles should be applied in this case for good Democracy to thrive. Fayiose has constitutional Powers that is equal in all ramifications to that of Mr. President. He's an Elected Democrat like Mr. President and the Senate President. He is not an Appointed official

[quote author=Almaiga post=46825486][/quote]ah... the new zombie chorus is e pain am?

AtlanticBreeze:
let them take this junk to homepage as usual.... Rubbish

You never cease to disappoint when it comes to irrational comments.

AtlanticBreeze:
I'm not a zombie, I'm not dumb.. you hear?

You're not dumb but i don't find you intelligent either.

Your posts everywhere lack objectivity and reeks of so much bile.

@Tonyebarcanista are there still hope to build a formidable opposition?.
If the warring leaders and 'these' youths can also be objective like this certainly we'd keep this present govt on her toes.

BTW very smart unbiased piece, still looking out for more of you. Thank you

waxxydude:
You're not dumb but i don't find you intelligent either.

Your posts everywhere lack objectivity and reeks of so much bile.

@Tonyebarcanista are there still hope to build a formidable opposition?.
If the warring leaders and 'these' youths can also be objective like this certainly we'd keep this present govt on her toes.

BTW very smart unbiased piece, still looking out for more of you. Thank you

I wish young people can consider floating a political party.

waxxydude:
[s]You're not dumb but i don't find you intelligent either.

Your posts everywhere lack objectivity and reeks of so much bile.

@Tonyebarcanista are there still hope to build a formidable opposition?.
If the warring leaders and 'these' youths can also be objective like this certainly we'd keep this present govt on her toes.

BTW very smart unbiased piece, still looking out for more of you. Thank you[/s]

No apologiwa, if you appreciate my post then there is a problem with me.. I would have become zombified.. Thanks for the compliments

AtlanticBreeze:
let them take this junk to homepage as usual.... Rubbish

Hahahaha

He pain am.

CHIEF Wailers dashed his hope

I don't see any issue here, a former Governor bank account was freezes during the last regimn.

As for Aisha Buhari, this case has been on for more then 10 years now. That woman isn't the current First Lady .

TonyeBarcanista:
Having taking my time to critically analyze the issue of legality on the freezing of the personal account of PDP and Ekiti state governor, Mr Ayo Fayose, I believe that it won't be out of place to air my opinion.

Before I proceed, I want to make it clear that my opinion on this issue is devoid of prejudice whatsoever nor influence by partisan bias. In other words, my opinion on this is strictly objective without fear or favor to any group or persons.

IS EFCC EMPOWERED TO FREEZE ACCOUNT UNDER INVESTIGATION?
I believe we should look at Section 34 (1) of the EFCC Act 2004 that specifically deals with it.

According to the Section,

“the Chairman of the Commission or any officer authorized by him may, if satisfied that the money in the account of a person is made through the commission of an offence under this Act or any enactment specified under Section 6(2) (a)-(f) of this Act, apply to the Court ex-parte for power to issue or instruct a bank examiner or such other appropriate authority to freeze the account.”

The provision clearly state that the Chairman of the Commission (EFCC) may apply to court for such order before it can freeze such account.

With this, it is safe to establish that the EFCC by law is empowered to freeze any bank account or financial asset under investigation after securing a valid court order.

CAN A GOVERNOR BE INVESTIGATED/HAS ACCOUNT FROZEN?
I believe that the Justices of the Supreme Court have ruled that while Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution (amended) grants governors and their deputies immunity from arrest, and criminal and civil prosecution, it doesn't grant them immunity from being investigated.

Going by Section 34(1) that empowers the Commission to freeze any account that may have connection with fraud during investigation and upon obtaining order from the court, and with the ruling of the apex court that investigation was not captured in immunity enjoyed by President, the Vice President, Governors, and Deputies, it is my humble opinion that their is no illegality in the freezing of a Governor's account provided such is backed by a valid court order.

DID EFCC ACT IN ILLEGALITY IN FREEZING GOV FAYOSE ACCOUNT?
Going by the analysis above, I believe that the freezing of governor Fayose account could only be illegal if done without obtaining court order as prescribed by the relevant section of EFCC Act 2004.

Governor Fayose should consider the option of going to court to reverse the action of the EFCC if he is convinced that the action amount to illegality and infringement on his right and privileges. I don't think wailing in the media can have any effect.


ON THE CONTROVERSIAL HALIBURTON AISHA BUHARI:
Having done my independent investigation, I came to conclusion that the said Aisha Buhari is an impostor and not related to the Wife of the President. These are my reasons;

1. The said Miss Aisha Buhari claimed to be the daughter of General Muhammadu Buhari and not the Wife of General Muhammadu Buhari.

However, Buhari in 2006 had denied having any daughter with such name. According to him;

“I don’t have any relationship with that Aisha Buhari,” Mr. Buhari said. “I don’t have any daughter called Aisha Buhari living outside this country. She is not my daughter.”
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/business/yourmoney/29lobby.html?pagewanted=all&referer=

2. The said Aisha of Haliburton was said to be in her middle age as at 2006, while Mrs Buhari is 47years of age as at now.

3. The Haliburton Aisha was said to have testified in the Haliburton case in the USA in 2006, there is no record that Mrs Buhari ever appeared in USA court to give any testimony.

4. Former EFCC Chairman and PDP Chieftain Mallam Nuhu Ribadu that handled the case had confirmed that the fraudulent Aisha is not the daughter of Mr President and has no relationship with him.

5. A Google search on the image of haliburton Aisha reveals no semblance with Mrs Aisha Buhari.


I believe that Mrs Aisha Buhari was a victim of identity fraud, and it won't be appropriate to further subject her to more victimisation/emotional trauma even though her party supporters would have done worse if former first lady and my kinswoman Dame Patience Jonathan was the subject.





May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria

One quick question @Tonyebarcanista

If the Aisha Buhari is a different one and resides in the US as claimed by Ribadu, and US claims to have handed all that is needed to prosecute those involved to EFCC and she was indicted, how come US has'nt arrested the said Aisha Buhari and jailed her? How come EFCC hasnt applied for extradition of the said impostor?

Why hasnt EFCC gone after Otunba Fasawe (OBJ's close ally), or Atiku or Kachikwu's brother and all those mentioned in the scandal?

Fawklicant:
One quick question @Tonyebarcanista

If the Aisha Buhari is a different one and resides in the US as claimed by Ribadu, and US claims to have handed all that is needed to prosecute those involved to EFCC and she was indicted, how come US has'nt arrested the said Aisha Buhari and jailed her? How come EFCC hasnt applied for extradition of the said impostor?

Why hasnt EFCC gone after Otunba Fasawe (OBJ's close ally), or Atiku or Kachikwu's brother and all those mentioned in the scandal?

The Police had investigated the scandal, the report is yet to be implemented.


That however has no effect on Mrs Buhari as her own case has to do with an identity fraud.

Can Mrs Aisha of Haliburton that claimed to be Buhari daughter still double as the wife?

Beside, EFCC ex bosses Ribadu and Larmode that were part of the investigation as Chairman and Director of Operations respectively long ago confirmed that she is a fraud

TonyeBarcanista:
The Police had investigated the scandal, the report is yet to be implemented.


That however has no effect on Mrs Buhari as her own case has to do with an identity fraud.

Can Mrs Aisha of Haliburton that claimed to be Buhari daughter still double as the wife?

Beside, EFCC ex bosses Ribadu and Larmode that were part of the investigation as Chairman and Director of Operations respectively long ago confirmed that she is a fraud

I thought you should know better. If the police is yet to implement the report, how come Jefferson is in jail? Or are you talking about Nigerian police? If so, why hasnt the US police arrested the said Aisha Buhari for her involvement since she resides there and is active in her community?

Forget about the efcc bosses, they are speaking like p[aid goons. If they set traps for her as they claimed, how come they refused to pick Atiku and co?.

Fawklicant:
I thought you should know better. If the police is yet to implement the report, how come Jefferson is in jail? Or are you talking about Nigerian police? If so, why hasnt the US police arrested the said Aisha Buhari for her involvement since she resides there and is active in her community?

Forget about the efcc bosses, they are speaking like p[aid goons. If they set traps for her as they claimed, how come they refused to pick Atiku and co?.

.. waiting for answers