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Lifestone:
You obviously have never been in Ilorin before otherwise you won't say 98% are Muslim. A big fat lie

without strangers, it's very difficult to see an indigene that's not a Muslim... but Ilorin generally(both strangers and indigene) consist of 70% Muslims

Boltonboyan:
These people are local govt workers and were protesting over non payment of salaries. Constitutionally, it is the duty of local councils to pay them as the state govt also caters for the salary obligations of its workers. Despite this, the Kwara state government under Gov. Ahmed is making frantic efforts to ensure the problem is resolved. The State govt is proposing to take over funding of Junior secondary education from the Local governments. This will be reduce the financial burden of the LGs.

We should understand that the salary crises is not peculiar to Kwara only, it affects almost every state in the country. Few days ago, local govt workers in Edo State protested over nonpayment of their 17month salaries. In Nassarawa, workers are still on strike and the governor has told them to accept 50 per cent cut in their salaries. In ondo, Osun, Ekiti, Delta, Plateau, Kogi, Niger, Oyo, etc, the salary situation is almost the same.

There is a need for the national and state govts to take measures to revive our economy, else, the salary problems will persist. The sad reality is that no amount of demonstrations or protest by workers will solve the problem. It is time government at all levels think for ways to improve the economy.

This is my humble opinion. You're entitled to yours as well.

Take your sanctimonious thrash and shove it in your posterior. You think you're talking to illiterates here. Do you have any proof to show that those workers are indeed LG workers instead of KWSG workers?

Let me expose your hypocrisy. As at April this year, Ahmed was owing 3 months salaries. It is in this link.

http://m.news24.com.ng/Nigeria/National/News/full-list-of-states-owing-workers-salaries-20160429

You can't fool all the people all of the time.

I smile at what some people think Kwara is a Hausa-Fulani state.
First, this type of situation where you get mixed tribe in one state is coz of its proximity with another state with its unique tribe.
Take for example Anambra, home to 90% igbos and about 10% igalas. Edo,90% Edo people say abt 10% Yorubas. Delta and Rivers with mixed percentage of tribes with igbo because of its proximity with the igbo land.Kwara 90% Yoruba, 10% Nupe, Hausa etc. Though Yorubas lost the seat of traditional power because of the battle with the Oyo Empire by Afonja. It was during the creation of states the mapping out wasnt properly done.

Lifestone:
Without prejudice to the right of people to express displeasure at their leaders, the Governor is not responsible for the payment of LG staff salaries.

What proof do you have to suggest that the protesters are LG workers?

The Governor is not responsible for the payment of LG workers, but he collected bailout for the payment of LG workers.

May Allah run your life the way Ahmed is running Kwara state.

elmisti:
U jst shot urslf in d leg.....and d paramont traditional ruler gambari is midle named sijuade bah? Or adewunmi abi adeola....go sleep nd wake....only offa/ erin ile nd few towns stil maintains yoruba identity in kwara...its baseless to argue...kwara cnt boast to be yorubas

Offa, Oro, Omu Aran, Jebba, Mokwa, Erin Ile, i can go on... Pls STFU already and stop claiming this your "I am a kwaran"

...and did you say 'new yam' festival Haba naww

https://www.nairaland.com/3213961/youths-occupy-nigeria-2016

Youth movement has started already !! Join the thrend

experimentist:
Mr man you guys are slaves to US (Hausa).. That's why we have our emir there..

olodo rabata, hausas don't have a single emir in the North except one, i cant remember right now, all the emirs in all the Emirates in the North are fulani by blood, mind you it its only Gombe state that fulanis are monoethnic, the rest they are minority, they use Islam/hereditary monarchy to to rule over all other tribes and groups, ilorin was never conquered, its leader was deposed off not the people, no war was fought no one was enslaved in ilorin, the people converted, after a considerable part was converted the Islamic leaders deposed the leader and imposed sharia law and swore allegiance to the sokoto caliphate, am sorry but Its the same way boko swore allegiance to Isis.

Dis is just de begining of dia down fall
Abeg ma I help una shout. Am
Ooooooooooooolllleeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stinggy:
Offa, Oro, Omu Aran, Jebba, Mokwa, Erin Ile, i can go on... Pls STFU already and stop claiming this your "I am a kwaran"

...and did you say 'new yam' festival Haba naww

the guy is obviously Igbo, don't know why they av hardon anytime they hear kwara and Ilorin.

elmisti:
Ye. majority yoruba speakn ple wit no cultural connection anymre wit d oyo/ife empire..nd den ruled by fulani...i am kwaran (asa lga.).....tdayof...we use daudu instead of baale dat yorubas use..no celebration of new yam festivalblike it is done in yoruba land...but dere is rege like iys dine in sokoto......afonja lost kwara to fulani

You are wrong to have said there are no celebrations of new yam festivals and the observance of other Yoruba customs in the state,if you have been to places like Omu-Aran,Osi,Offa, etc. you know that the reverse is the case.
The new yam festival of some communities in Oke Ero LGA should be celebrated anytime soon;you should make the trip if you can .

Afonja didn't lose Kwara to the Fulanis;he lost Ilorin to them. Thereby depriving Yorubas in the state some political power.
Suffice it to say apart from Ilorin --which is his base-- the Emir doesn't have a say in the affairs of Yoruba communities in the state.
Hell, I'll even bet that some of the residents of these settlements are not aware of the existence of the Emir you keep calling their ruler.

A lil' bit of travelling will convince you .

MrMcJay:
What proof do you have to suggest that the protesters are LG workers?

The Governor is not responsible for the payment of LG workers, but he collected bailout for the payment of LG workers.

May Allah run your life the way Ahmed is running Kwara state.

This protest was widely reported before now. Do you have evidence that the bailout wasn't used as proposed.
I enjoy intelligent discussions especially in a public forum like NL. What I find disgusting is generalisation of hatred for leaders.
By the way your last statement is a reflection how little minded you are.

elmisti:
U jst shot urslf in d leg.....and d paramont traditional ruler gambari is midle named sijuade bah? Or adewunmi abi adeola....go sleep nd wake....only offa/ erin ile nd few towns stil maintains yoruba identity in kwara...its baseless to argue...kwara cnt boast to be yorubas

what's your definition of Yoruba identity?

These people are not local government workers.

misspicy:
You are right. but only other division of kwara are with this opinion.

But the core ilorites will die Bukola's death than fight for freedom from his oppression,maybe they still get something from him

I understand what you mean by 'other division'.
You also are correct, but things are changing.

Very soon, he may sell the State Stadium, University, even government house, he has sold many state properties; the funniest thing is that he sells this things to himself.

Ilorin folks will tell you this.
They are fed up.
They are Awake.

I think they are tired of the 'bondage', they want to be FREE

Lifestone:
This protest was widely reported before now. Do you have evidence that the bailout wasn't used as proposed.
I enjoy intelligent discussions especially in a public forum like NL. What I find disgusting is generalisation of hatred for leaders.
By the way your last statement is a reflection how little minded you are.

Unlike you that adores thieves and looters under the guise of respect for leaders, I point out the truth to them. People like you are servants to everyone and inspirations to no-one.

I repeat, do you have any proof that those protesters are LG workers?

Here is proof that Gov. Ahmed is an irresponsible administrator who is owing salaries of his workers.

http://m.news24.com.ng/Nigeria/National/News/full-list-of-states-owing-workers-salaries-20160429

The bailout the governor collected was for the workers both KWSG and LG.

If you celebrate thieves, it shows you're also deficient in honesty. I don't spare people like you, I have lots of hard knocks for people like you.

I'll never let falsehood triumph over truth while I'm here. Let that sink in.

MrMcJay:
Unlike you that adores thieves and looters under the guise of respect for leaders, I point out the truth to them. People like you are servants to everyone and inspirations to no-one.

I repeat, do you have any proof that those protesters are LG workers?

Here is proof that Gov. Ahmed is an irresponsible administrator who is owing salaries of his workers.

http://m.news24.com.ng/Nigeria/National/News/full-list-of-states-owing-workers-salaries-20160429

The bailout the governor collected was for the workers both KWSG and LG.

If you celebrate thieves, it shows you're also deficient in honesty. I don't spare people like you, I have lots of hard knocks for people like you.

I'll never let falsehood triumph over truth while I'm here. Let that sink in.

Unfortunately you are not speaking to facts and I don't have a single respect for people like you who uses falsehood to project their cause.
Nigeria deserves responsible leaders and I do not hold fort for rouge leaders.
My argument here is that you've gone rouge in your blind attempt at seeking relevance.
Again the protest was well reported by mainstream media houses and I could recollect that their spokesperson issued a rejoinder.
Those who seek the truth must resist the temptation to employ instruments of falsehood.
As for all the other sluts coming out from you, it's obvious they are in abundance there.

As Events unfolds, its so sad to allow political miscreants and sponsored thugs to take over a state whose government is constitutionally formed. I must say that the protest was hijacked by enemies of the state who had been looking for the opportunity to strike the govt in any way possible. As we all know that the issue of salary in Nigeria is not a state problem but a national issue that needs urgent intervention from the Federal Govt.
In one of the meets held with stakeholders in the state, we could hear Governor Ahmed say that his administration would take over basic education in the state. If he( the Gov) didn't have the people and the state in mind would he ever make such an offer? No! We need to open our mind so wide open and think outside the box. Personally, I am of the opinion that the LG workers also have crippled the revenue generation in that tier of Govt. Some of their IGR goes into a pocket that can't be accounted for. Pls, let's wake up... God bless kwara!!!

Lifestone:
Without prejudice to the right of people to express displeasure at their leaders, the Governor is not responsible for the payment of LG staff salaries.

So with the joint state and local government account for allocations, you think the state governor gives the local government all money due to them?

stinggy:
Offa, Oro, Omu Aran, Jebba, Mokwa, Erin Ile, i can go on... Pls STFU already and stop claiming this your "I am a kwaran"

...and did you say 'new yam' festival Haba naww

I knew you were gonna be here

MrMcJay:
I schooled with the grandson of the late Oba of Lagos, the present Emir of Ilorin, the son of the Oba of Efon Alaaye and other royals. We all spoke Yoruba when we were not speaking English. The Gambari guy couldn't speak a complete sentence in Hausa or Fulani even to the Hausa and Fulani guys in school.

I think this goes to show who is what.

even his Grandfather SuluGambari requested for his food in Yoruba this afternoon.

The emir family speak Yoruba, it was only their forefathers that have affiliate with Fulanis .....

But if Nigeria were to divide , there will surely be war over Ilorin between Hausa/Fulani and Yorubas .... Emir of Ilorin in a bid not to see his heritage, influence and power to be curtailed/limited, he will signal to Sokoto Caliphate and Jihad is the answer .....

Right now we have Emir of Ilorin and Magaji Aare ......


These guys speak Yoruba and their culture have metamorphosed into Yoruba cuz they bear both Islamic and Yoruba names but they all know their ancestors are Fulani, they know their stories and their root and we Yoruba also remind them who they are

Ilorin Emirate is so vast and bigger now, no emir would want his influence reduced when the time comes.

elmisti:
Ignorance dey say kills faster than death......... Go research d story of afonja nd alimi..nd go find out if d following names ar yorubas

LAWAL
BELLO
SULYMAN
BELGORE.........U ple jst com out from d caves u live in nd stat advertising stupidity.....kwara was yoruba (fighting oyo) until d mutiny of alimi raised an islamic state nd put it under d sokoto kaliphate.

I don't like to insult people, I would like to take you out from your misery cum ignorance once and for all. I don't know much about the military governors, but the civillians? Very much. Only Shaaba Lafiaji and another person(i don't remember his name) are of mixed Yoruba and Bariba origin. All others are confirm Yoruba.

Muhammed Alabi Lawal, Bamidele Belgore. The incumbent AbdulFattah Atanda Ahmed is from Shaare..

Provide the other names of the two(Bello, Sulayman) you asked to provide their Yoruba names because I don't know them in Kwara history.
You have let me realized further that "ignorance kills faster than death"
CONTINUE

Lifestone:
You obviously have never been in Ilorin before otherwise you won't say 98% are Muslim. A big fat lie

sorry bro. i graduated from unilorin this 2015, i am a kwara, born in kwara in fact I have never spent 5 years outside kwara in my life. or may be u think i mean people leaving in Ilorin? NO, I mean the emirate gangan, awon original omo ilorin. the 50% of the remaining 2% must be a convert

Occurstaem:
I don't like to insult people, I would like to take you out from your misery cum ignorance once and for all. I don't know much about the military governors, but the civillians? Very much. Only Shaaba Lafiaji and another person(i don't remember his name) are of mixed Yoruba and Bariba origin. All others are confirm Yoruba.

Muhammed Alabi Lawal, Bamidele Belgore. The incumbent AbdulFattah Atanda Ahmed is from Shaare..

Provide the other names of the two(Bello, Sulayman) you asked to provide their Yoruba names because I don't know them in Kwara history.
You have let me realized further that "ignorance kills faster than death"
CONTINUE

thought u made up a list dere containing a Bello. Bello is d first name adopted by early yoruba converts (aftr d bello of sokoto )... And if u dnt kmw d sulyman family in ilrn. I shldnt argue wit u further....

SaffronSpice:
You are wrong to have said there are no celebrations of new yam festivals and the observance of other Yoruba customs in the state,if you have been to places like Omu-Aran,Osi,Offa, etc. you know that the reverse is the case.
The new yam festival of some communities in Oke Ero LGA should be celebrated anytime soon;you should make the trip if you can .

Afonja didn't lose Kwara to the Fulanis;he lost Ilorin to them. Thereby depriving Yorubas in the state some political power.
Suffice it to say apart from Ilorin --which is his base-- the Emir doesn't have a say in the affairs of Yoruba communities in the state.
Hell, I'll even bet that some of the residents of these settlements are not aware of the existence of the Emir you keep calling their ruler.

A lil' bit of travelling will convince you .

my home town in odo owa must have celebrated their yam festival the first market of this present july. stop mentioning those that have never for once leave their father' d backyard

SaffronSpice:
What town?

i am from odo owa , i leave in oro but presently am serving in enugu

SaffronSpice:
You are wrong to have said there are no celebrations of new yam festivals and the observance of other Yoruba customs in the state,if you have been to places like Omu-Aran,Osi,Offa, etc. you know that the reverse is the case.
The new yam festival of some communities in Oke Ero LGA should be celebrated anytime soon;you should make the trip if you can .

Afonja didn't lose Kwara to the Fulanis;he lost Ilorin to them. Thereby depriving Yorubas in the state some political power.
Suffice it to say apart from Ilorin --which is his base-- the Emir doesn't have a say in the affairs of Yoruba communities in the state.
Hell, I'll even bet that some of the residents of these settlements are not aware of the existence of the Emir you keep calling their ruler.

A lil' bit of travelling will convince you .

One wld thnk wen u loose d capital. U loose d nation. Tru that some still maintain dier yoruba identity... I don try small if u talkn of traveln within kwara state
......hw many yoruba king is present in kwara state today. Compared to daudus.. Take note daudu are stooges of d emir

Geopolitical is different from geographical Zone. Dont be confused, Kwarans are yoruba and belong to South West. The present Emir of Ilorin finished from Offa Grammar School, am not sure the emir can even speak Hausa - Dr OS Ayanda (A native of Ajasse Ipo - Kwara State, i put Isanlu isin, Ajasse Ipo, Ilala on wikipedia)

This is interesting. Let us all rise from our slumber and welcome not all these criminal people who have siphoned our money into their own account and still want us to eulogise their bad habit. I love d way Kwara youths summon their courages and embarasse this stupid leaders who find pleasure in embezzle our cash. Oleeeee! I will urge Ekiti youths too to rise up to their duties by challenging Fayose too to explain to them how d state allocation has be mismanage and misused. Buhari belongs to nobody so let make use of him now to get back our money from selfish leaders.

This is interesting. Let us all rise from our slumber and welcome not all these criminal people who have siphoned our money into their own account and still want us to eulogise their bad habit. I love d way Kwara youths summon their courages and embarasse this stupid leaders who find pleasure in embezzle our cash. Oleeeee! I will urge Ekiti youths too to rise up to their duties by challenging Fayose too to explain to them how d state allocation has be mismanage and misused. Buhari belongs to nobody so let make use of him now to get back our money from selfish leaders. Kudos to Kwara youths!

stinggy:
Offa, Oro, Omu Aran, Jebba, Mokwa, Erin Ile, i can go on... Pls STFU already and stop claiming this your "I am a kwaran"

...and did you say 'new yam' festival Haba naww

I wnt be as blunt as u ar.....jst jejely walk to afon. The secetariat of asa lg. Ask to get ur indigiene certificate nd watch dem substitute mallam for mr..........wen u all ar ready to accept dat u ar still slaves of d kaliphate....make d offa king or any oda one d topmost of kwara state nd stop crying dat u nt hausa/fulani. Or u seceed from kwara state...

Moreover, check the River Benue and River Niger on the Nigerian Map. God himself already tells which part of Nigeria is the North, South, East or West - Dr OS Ayanda.

Lifestone:
Unfortunately you are not speaking to facts and I don't have a single respect for people like you who uses falsehood to project their cause.
Nigeria deserves responsible leaders and I do not hold fort for rouge leaders.
My argument here is that you've gone rouge in your blind attempt at seeking relevance.
Again the protest was well reported by mainstream media houses and I could recollect that their spokesperson issued a rejoinder.
Those who seek the truth must resist the temptation to employ instruments of falsehood.
As for all the other sluts coming out from you, it's obvious they are in abundance there.

Much words but little sense. Give me a link to validate all the trash you wrote up there and I'll counter you with facts.

The other time when Saraki was stoned at the Eid ground when Ahmed wasn't there, I guess it was the LG workers also.

Old men who have sold their children's futures for a plate of tuwo.