At last I'm done going through the pages of the thread..May God continue to favour all the contributors..Only God knows how much I've benefited from all your experiences,arguments and sermons...let the fire you have for the Good Lord continue to burn within you.

trueking:
@CharlyG1, why don't you open your own website or even a blog or forum? I would assist where I can.

Thank you trueking. I was just discussing this with a friend online. I'm looking it already. And I'll appreciate any help you can provide.
I'll keep the house informed about this from time to time.

God bless you

colik:
At last I'm done going through the pages of the thread..May God continue to favour all the contributors..Only God knows how much I've benefited from all your experiences,arguments and sermons...let the fire you have for the Good Lord continue to burn within you.

You're welcome Colik. We're glad you have been blessed.

God bless you too

CharlyG1:


Thank you trueking. I was just discussing this with a friend online. I'm looking it already. And I'll appreciate any help you can provide.
I'll keep the house informed about this from time to time.

God bless you

Thank you Sir, the Lord is your strength.

@trueking, I couldn't agree more.

Bro Charles your revelations are the spice of Christiandom that many have been waiting for. I'm also pushing for you to open a blog more so for the world, not just for a Nigerian audience or Africa for that matter. There are inquisitive, hungry, clueless and conflicted "internetters" that would appreciate your blog a great deal.

I know without any doubt that this thread is like your baby from Abba through the Holy Spirit. More movies these days depict graphically, your divine revelations, eg, Childhood's End, Shanara and many Syfy movies.

If and when the Holy Spirit gives you the green light, I say go for it and step out in faith. Many family cells, deliverances, answers to puzzling dreams and encounters have been birthed and given from this thread.

Now, we all know it takes money not just moral or oral support to back you up. When that time comes for you to take this message of warnings, upliftment, enlightenment, light, bomb to detonate darkness and help usher in the King of Kings, I'm sure many here will back you up financially, prayerfully, technologically etc. He who has started the good work in you will be faithful to complete it.

I've been magnanimously affected by this thread. And with the support of the leaders here, the globally spiritually famished will fill their bellies too. I'm sure McDonald's will be put out of business.



Shalom

Oppy4God:



Good pm sir please i send you a mail, kindly reply me.God bless you.

Hello Oppy,

I have replied you.

Bootsiegal:
@trueking, I couldn't agree more.

Bro Charles your revelations are the spice of Christiandom that many have been waiting for. I'm also pushing for you to open a blog more so for the world, not just for a Nigerian audience or Africa for that matter. There are inquisitive, hungry, clueless and conflicted "internetters" that would appreciate your blog a great deal.

I know without any doubt that this thread is like your baby from Abba through the Holy Spirit. More movies these days depict graphically, your divine revelations, eg, Childhood's End, Shanara and many Syfy movies.

If and when the Holy Spirit gives you the green light, I say go for it and step out in faith. Many family cells, deliverances, answers to puzzling dreams and encounters have been birthed and given from this thread.

Now, we all know it takes money not just moral or oral support to back you up. When that time comes for you to take this message of warnings, upliftment, enlightenment, light, bomb to detonate darkness and help usher in the King of Kings, I'm sure many here will back you up financially, prayerfully, technologically etc. He who has started the good work in you will be faithful to complete it.

I've been magnanimously affected by this thread. And with the support of the leaders here, the globally spiritually famished will fill their bellies too. I'm sure McDonald's will be put out of business.



Shalom

Thank you my dear Bootsiegal.. Your words of encouragement drove straight into my heart and put a smile on my face
And a big Amen to your prayers.
I'll go all the way for Jesus no matter the sacrifices I'll have to take. After all true christianity is all about making sacrifices.
I know you'll be there to assist when you can. And I believe people will follow the leading of the Holy Ghost when that time comes.


I do not want McDonald's out of business. lol (that part cracked me up)

But I know God means serious business even in this end times, when the world is putting out so many christian flames.


And yes I agree with you that McDonald and many out there would have their bellies filled with God's word by His grace in Jesus Name... Amen
Yokes will be broken and the captives will be set free. Revival will take place and the gates of hell shall not prevail for the Church of God will march on.


Bootsiegal, You have a good heart.
And so I pray that the face of God smiles upon you. May His glory encompass you. May your heart be forever glad, and your mouth never cease to speak of His goodness in your life. And May God bring speedily the answer to every of your prayer request in Jesus Name. Amen


Remain Blessed

CharlyG1:


You're welcome Colik. We're glad you have been blessed.
God bless you too

Amen

[quote author=CharlyG1 post=47383791]HI charly, you mentioned that man cannot order angels to do their bidding. It sounds foreign to me cos a lot of notable men of God do that and encourage that. Well I'm open to new teaching and the truth. please could you shed more light on that area? Thanks and God bless you.

Muttybabe:
GOD SHOULD PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL TIME TO MOVE CLOSER TO GOD BUT IT SEEMS SOMETHING IS DRAWNING ME BACK. AND I KNOW VERY SURE THAT I NEED GOD'S INTERVENTION IN MY LIFE. I WISH I COULD BE A WINNER OF THIS PROBLEM

hello young lady, how are you?

I think there are some of what charlyG1 said that I can relate to. Recently the Holy Spirit started talking to me about stopping some Movies and seasonals that I loved to watch. I realize that anytime I watched them it's as if they poured cold water on my spiritual fire. Chief among them is Game of Thrones, Wayward pines, Empire. Game of thrones IN particular has demonic themes, sexual perversion and immorality has their core message. People are just too blinded to notice . What finally convince me was during a period of spiritual exercise recently the devil was just trying to bombard me with all sorts of immoral thoughts through dreams. I knew they weren't mine because I don't think such thoughts. In one of those dreams, It was like I was watching an action Movie, The fight was so captivating, then inbetween It switched into a hardcore sex scene. At that point my spirit man came alive and declared that this is the work of the devil and then rebuked it, after which I woke up. In another dream I saw myself being tempted with Lust for money. The devil projected to the future during What seems to be my 30th birthday. And I saw the kind of money I have never thought existed in history. It was like a birthday bash with millions More like billions of dollars everywhere. And so called friends and sparsely dressed ladies, dancing with me and getting drunk . Then something happened we couldn't continue to stay there, so we left the place to bother venue which was supposedly my house to continue the party. We entered this big compound inside it was a house painted white. The kind of beauty I have never seen, Then 10 helicopters landed in the house and everything was supposedly mine. So some friends and ladies (Actually demons)with bottles of champagne with them started pulling me towards the house. As we were going in, something from the inside spoke to me to look very well that this is the work of the devil and I should rebuke it. So I tried to resist, but it was very difficult and they keep pulling and teasing me into the house. Until finally I garnered strength and rebuke the devil and the lust for money. Then I woke up. I knew the dream had a spiritual implication but as I was typing here. I started to understand more. The devil is very trickish and we need to build Grace to help for the time we will need it (Heb 4:16) God bless you all

About fallen angels. I think I may have encountered one.
This happened some months after I overcame pornography and masturbation. I was very young in the faith (I'm still very young In it) I had a funny Dream.
I was in an house which looked like an hotel. So I went to have my bath. On Returning Into my room I saw that a lady had sneaked into my room and was on my bed under the duvet. As I looked closely,i saw that this lady was EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL, but I was still scared. So I questioned her asking who she was and what she was doing in my room. Her reply shocked me. SHE SAID HER NAME WAS "SCEPTER" AND SHE WAS AN ANGEL SENT BY GOD TO ME. But something didn't seem right. As I approached her, next thing I saw was that she Naked and she held me. But a scripture came to me from nowhere "If any man be in Christ he's a new creature, old things are passed away, behold all things are become new" and I told her, you can't be an angel of God and I rebuke her. Then I woke up.
Thank God for victory.

etidy:

Oga Charles and process01 has said almost all that is to be said. I will just add a few points
1) You must realize that this is a winnable battle. Many have fought it and won. I was under that oppression too but I overcame it. That I don't even think about it or feel like doing it. That overcomers mentality is important if you must win. 1 Cor 10:13, 1john 5:4
2) This battle is two fold, there is an element of the flesh that you must put under subjection and there is the element of demon spirits which take advantage of your flesh and mind to oppress you. MAKE NO MISTAKE, MASTURBATION IS A DEMONIC OPPRESSION.
3) Pay very specific attention to all processor and Charles have said and DO them.
3) Engage the weapons of the Kingdom
2 Cor 10:4-5 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ.
What are these weapons that pull down strongholds?
a) The blood of Jesus Christ (I call it the jackpot) . The devil has absolutely no answer for the blood. It's God trump's card. Rev 12:11. Generously engage the blood of Jesus always. In purging your thoughts, conscience, environment and others. EAT THE COMMUNION REGULARLY AND WITH NDERSTANDING. THERE IS IMMENSE POWER IN THE COMMUNION. The flesh and blood of Jesus enables us to live by(like) Christ (John 6:53-58), its a spiritual transfusion of divine virtue (eternal life) and this life Is the light of men and it shines in darkness and Darkness has never overcame it (John 1:4-5). Please understand that the communion doesn't have to be one special bread and wine. It was just ordinary bread and win at dinner that he blessed and declared his flesh and blood (Matt 26:26-28). So in that regard you can take it regularly in the quiet of house from just a little bread or even biscuit and any drink. Bless it, declare your expectations(what u want to be free from) as you take it and do it by faith. It works like fire.
2) The Holy Spirit : without enduement with the Holy Spirit, winning against the powers of darkness is a difficult task. Desire to be filled with the Holy Ghost. It's Free, it's easy only desire and ask earnestly from the father (Luke 11:13) . The Holy Spirit is not just abt speaking in tongues But an enrollment to the school of POWER (ACTS 1:8 ). LIVING A SPIRIT FILLED LIFE IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO TOTAL VICTORY. BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT EMPOWERS YOUR SPIRIT BEING (EPHESIANS 3:16) TO DOMINATE YOUR FLESH (Gal 5:16-17). SEEK THIS INFILLING LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. IT'S TOO VITAL IN THIS WICKED TIMES WE ARE IN. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ANOINTING (ACTS 10:38) AND THE ANOINTING CAN DESTROY EVERY YOKE OR BURDEN (ISA 10:27) . He makes you an overcomer (1john 4:4) . The good news is that the Holy Spirit is cheap to get unlike how people make it to look. But t requires us to genuine return to Christ because he's (not a pastor) the baptizer (Matt 3:11). The Holy Spirit is readily available to fill anyone who desires Him, all you need to do is RECIEVE HIM INTO YOUR HEART BY FAITH.( Acts 8:17, Acts 19:2, NOTE THE WORD USED IS "RECIEVE" So he is close by just stretch out to invite him in prayer).
Just those two weapons out of many others are enough
Again pay close attention to all Charles and processor01 said especially viz a viz creating an atmosphere that temptation can't easily set in and the avoiding trigger factors like porn, wrong friends.
FINALLY ,RELAX! ..JUST RELAX, DONT GET WORRIED ABOUT ANYTHING (PHIL 4:6), DON'T FEAR ANYTHING. YOUR ADVERSARY THE DEVIL AND ALL HIS DEMONS ARE VERY CHEAP PEOPLE TO DEFEAT. HE'S BEING DEFEATED AND BASHED, ALWAYS HAVE THAT CONSCIOUS EVEN WHEN IT SEEMS YOU ARE NOT WINNING. THE DEVIL MAY WIN A BATTLE, BUT JESUS HAS SECURED THE WAR FOR YOU THATS WHY A RIGHTEOUS MAN CAN FALL SEVERAL TIMES AND RISE AGAIN (PROVS 24:16). Don't panic, there is nothing special or spoky abt demons and all these spiritual things, the spiritual is actually every believers natural habitat (John 1:8 ). CHILL IN FAITH (HOLD YOUR PEACE) AND CONFEDIENTLY RIDE ON GOD TO VICTORY LIKE A BOSS . Sorry my post was too long. Be blessed

thanks

W

etidy:
I think there are some of what charlyG1 said that I can relate to. Recently the Holy Spirit started talking to me about stopping some Movies and seasonals that I loved to watch. I realize that anytime I watched them it's as if they poured cold water on my spiritual fire. Chief among them is Game of Thrones, Wayward pines, Empire. Game of thrones IN particular has demonic themes, sexual perversion and immorality has their core message. People are just too blinded to notice . What finally convince me was during a period of spiritual exercise recently the devil was just trying to bombard me with all sorts of immoral thoughts through dreams. I knew they weren't mine because I don't think such thoughts. In one of those dreams, It was like I was watching an action Movie, The fight was so captivating, then inbetween It switched into a hardcore sex scene. At that point my spirit man came alive and declared that this is the work of the devil and then rebuked it, after which I woke up. In another dream I saw myself being tempted with Lust for money. The devil projected to the future during What seems to be my 30th birthday. And I saw the kind of money I have never thought existed in history. It was like a birthday bash with millions More like billions of dollars everywhere. And so called friends and sparsely dressed ladies, dancing with me and getting drunk . Then something happened we couldn't continue to stay there, so we left the place to bother venue which was supposedly my house to continue the party. We entered this big compound inside it was a house painted white. The kind of beauty I have never seen, Then 10 helicopters landed in the house and everything was supposedly mine. So some friends and ladies (Actually demons)with bottles of champagne with them started pulling me towards the house. As we were going in, something from the inside spoke to me to look very well that this is the work of the devil and I should rebuke it. So I tried to resist, but it was very difficult and they keep pulling and teasing me into the house. Until finally I garnered strength and rebuke the devil and the lust for money. Then I woke up. I knew the dream had a spiritual implication but as I was typing here. I started to understand more. The devil is very trickish and we need to build Grace to help for the time we will need it (Heb 4:16) God bless you all

Really glad to see this post.

Now, I will speak about a popular showtime series "Game of thrones".
Sometime last year, after so much noise around me I decided to give it a shot even though the Holy Spirit had severally warned me in the past against watching this series. This time the last straw for me was after a strong Christian sister stopped by and narrated how captivating and deep the storyline is so I thought if Sister B can watch then it isn't so bad after all.

I settled down to watch at about 9pm (bought some pizza too ). Chai! How I grieved the Holy Spirit because he kept warning me while watching the first few episodes but I ignored him. Watched on with so many sexually perversed scenes. I went to bed at a little past 2am and the sort of sexual manipulation I experienced in my dream was unbelievable.

Anyway, I later came to understand in clear terms that the devil does not give good things neither does he seek to bring pleasure nor entertain God's children (he hates us)...he only comes to steal, kill and destroy.

2 Corinthians 2:11
To keep Satan from getting the advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his wiles and intentions.


Keep in mind that some believers may watch and gain deep insights from the movie/series while some others may watch and be defiled. I believe that is why God did not just leave us with the Bible alone but gave each child the Holy Spirit to be our guide.

2 Corinthians 10:12
We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise.

Lamasta:
CharlyG1 pls sir help me out

I have a dream during this second day of my fasting in
the midnight, in this dream I saw my family (all of
them even the one that have married and not staying
with us I saw all of us in this our room) together with
our family friend who is a widow with 2 children, a
boy and a girl staying with us in this same house of ours and together with 3 foreigners which are white
Men but one of them looks like an arab all of us were
in this our house together so I ask one of the
foreigners why they came to our house to stay so he
repliied me me that they are in Nigeria to DEVELOP and
BUILD on a land owned by one person thay mention his name which have forgotten and that the project is
a big project cos the land cost about 3 Billion naira or
more after interviewing them we all slept together
comfortably and I observed that there was no
complain just that am the only one that was just
observing why things is so after which I woke up from my sleep.....Pls interpret it in the name of God

Hello Lamasta,

Sorry for replying late to your post.
The dream is a good one, not to worry about the Name of the Person who had the Land project.

The dream signifies that God has visited your family and He is about to do a new and miraculous thing in your household.
This is a replica of an event in the bible when three men visited Abraham to tell him that Isaac will be born and Sodom & Gomorrah would be destroyed. Genesis 18.

These foreigners have told you that their intention is to Build and Develop, that God is about to taking your family into a whole new level in life.

A cleared land or a land to be cleared represents- New work


The three men in your case are angels representing the Godhead (authority of God), just like in the case of Abraham. The Man that stood out looking like an Arab is a representative of God the Father.

3 Billion isn't talkng about physical money but represents a great value(great blessing) coming from the authority of God. So this means that this GREAT BLESSING is coming from the Godhead (God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
The number 3 means Godhead (Divine Authority of Heaven). God is the owner of that land, God is the one doing this new thing in your lives.


You could all sleep comfortably because the message and presence of God brings peace and comfort. You can check for examples, it's seen everywhere in the Bible. Every time an angel or prophet of God brought good messages from God, there was always comfort, peace and great rejoicing.



So these angels representing God's authority are telling you that the blessing that is about to happen in your life and family's is coming from God, out of the authority of Heaven.



It is a good dream. There is a powerful move of God that is about to take place in your life. God wants to do a new thing in your family's lives. He wants to end the problems which affects Nigeria that has affected your entire household. He wants to bring these problems to an end. I claim it for you in Jesus Name. Amen.


Remain blessed

CharlyG1:


Hello Lamasta,

Sorry for replying late to your post.
The dream is a good one, not to worry about the Name of the Person who had the Land project.

The dream signifies that God has visited your family and He is about to do a new and miraculous thing in your household.
This is a replica of an event in the bible when three men visited Abraham to tell him that Isaac will be born and Sodom & Gomorrah would be destroyed. Genesis 18.

These foreigners have told you that their intention is to Build and Develop, that God is about to taking your family into a whole new level in life.

A cleared land or a land to be cleared represents- New work


The three men in your case are angels representing the Godhead (authority of God), just like in the case of Abraham. The Man that stood out looking like an Arab is a representative of God the Father.

3 Billion isn't talkng about physical money but represents a great value(great blessing) coming from the authority of God. So this means that this GREAT BLESSING is coming from the Godhead (God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
The number 3 means Godhead (Divine Authority of Heaven). God is the owner of that land, God is the one doing this new thing in your lives.


You could all sleep comfortably because the message and presence of God brings peace and comfort. You can check for examples, it's seen everywhere in the Bible. Every time an angel or prophet of God brought good messages from God, there was always comfort, peace and great rejoicing.



So these angels representing God's authority are telling you that the blessing that is about to happen in your life and family's is coming from God, out of the authority of Heaven.



It is a good dream. There is a powerful move of God that is about to take place in your life. God wants to do a new thing in your family's lives. He wants to end the problems which affects Nigeria that has affected your entire household. He wants to bring these problems to an end. I claim it for you in Jesus Name. Amen.


Remain blessed

Hello bro Charles, good evening...

Hello brethren, May the peace and love of Christ continue to dwell with us all!


Pls CharlyG1 quick one; is it a good omen to either give or receive money in the dream? Especially when one is believing God for financial break through.

CharlyG1:


Hello Lamasta,

Sorry for replying late to your post.
The dream is a good one, not to worry about the Name of the Person who had the Land project.

The dream signifies that God has visited your family and He is about to do a new and miraculous thing in your household.
This is a replica of an event in the bible when three men visited Abraham to tell him that Isaac will be born and Sodom & Gomorrah would be destroyed. Genesis 18.

These foreigners have told you that their intention is to Build and Develop, that God is about to taking your family into a whole new level in life.

A cleared land or a land to be cleared represents- New work


The three men in your case are angels representing the Godhead (authority of God), just like in the case of Abraham. The Man that stood out looking like an Arab is a representative of God the Father.

3 Billion isn't talkng about physical money but represents a great value(great blessing) coming from the authority of God. So this means that this GREAT BLESSING is coming from the Godhead (God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
The number 3 means Godhead (Divine Authority of Heaven). God is the owner of that land, God is the one doing this new thing in your lives.


You could all sleep comfortably because the message and presence of God brings peace and comfort. You can check for examples, it's seen everywhere in the Bible. Every time an angel or prophet of God brought good messages from God, there was always comfort, peace and great rejoicing.



So these angels representing God's authority are telling you that the blessing that is about to happen in your life and family's is coming from God, out of the authority of Heaven.



It is a good dream. There is a powerful move of God that is about to take place in your life. God wants to do a new thing in your family's lives. He wants to end the problems which affects Nigeria that has affected your entire household. He wants to bring these problems to an end. I claim it for you in Jesus Name. Amen.


Remain blessed

May the Almighty God continue to BLESS and INCREASE you in every area of your life Sir, the hands of the enemies will not touch You in JESUS name......
Reading the interpretation brought TEARS from my eyes as am reading it.....

dazzle101:


Hello bro Charles, good evening...

Hello brethren, May the peace and love of Christ continue to dwell with us all!


Pls CharlyG1 quick one; is it a good omen to either give or receive money in the dream? Especially when one is believing God for financial break through.

Please bro Charles come and answer this question ooh. I gave somebody N1000 out of about N1,700 I was holding in the dream. He rejected N500 I gave to him first. I gave it to him out of love and sacrifice, though he didn't show appreciation. He was a stubborn brother/cousin in d dream....no such brother in real life. I was about going back to collect another money to augment the one left, as it was no longer enough as t'fare, when I woke up.
We await ur answer Sir. @CharlyG1

@ etidy and processor01
I relate with Wat u guys said concerning some movie series and it's a wakeup call for children of God to be watchful. Wen many we first met d Lord, there were things He helped us overcome and there were things He took away from us. Mine was, secular music, video games, seasonal movies. Now its not bad to see a short movie but we must understand dat we are feeding our mind with it and wen we spend great amount of time on dem, we dont know d havoc it has done until we see our selves behaving like or using words we heard in such movies.
In my own case I notice anytime I go back to dem, i start facing temptations dat God had given me victory over in d past and until i stop, it persist. In the school of the Spirit we don't graduate we only get promoted. No one is superman, d devil is very cunning nd sometimes deceives us to think we av arrived and we can't fall into old temptations nd we mustn't be ignorant of his devices. Many atime, dis so called movies are embellished wit some from of moral lesson, it is all part of satan device to lure and gain control of our mind. Let's by all means avoid going back to those things the Holy Spirit has taken away from us.

Please there is this goose-pimple like feeling on my head that I recently notice each time I'm reading either religious books or studying the bible. It's very obvious and I don't feel it outside those times. Any implication?

Please there is this goose-pimple like feeling on my head that I recently notice each time I'm reading either religious books or studying the bible. It's very obvious and I don't feel it outside those times. Any implication? Pls Oyedulef or CharlG help a sis.

Juleedear:
Please there is this goose-pimple like feeling on my head that I recently notice each time I'm reading either religious books or studying the bible. It's very obvious and I don't feel it outside those times. Any implication? Pls Oyedulef or CharlG help a sis.

lol my sis i think u are already starting to know the difference between your spirit man and ur body. With time u will be able to fully differentiate both. When your spirit is getting nourishment, Presence of the Holy Spirit becomes real and the anointing becomes real too. Ur body is kinda unfamiliar with the anointing yet so you get d goose pimples. Its nothing to be scared about. Keep growing ur Spirit man.
Am speaking out of experience. Den i even thought it was evil, went for counsel and a mentor of mine proved to me from scripture thay it was d anointing. I know a person whose hand becomes hot nd if it touch person (laying of hand), dat person is going down .Try to do some bible study on Anointing

This is an amazing thread.

dazzle101:


Hello bro Charles, good evening...

Hello brethren, May the peace and love of Christ continue to dwell with us all!


Pls CharlyG1 quick one; is it a good omen to either give or receive money in the dream? Especially when one is believing God for financial break through.

Hello Dear.. It is not a bad omen.
Money is just a representative of a cost when giving. Meaning, it will cost you something to receive that blessing you're seeking for. (in this case the numbers seen in the dream is needed for complete interpretation)


Money when receiving can represent a blessing or something of great value.


Now, in prophetic dreams it goes deeper. The amount(numbers) given or received would have to be known for full interpretation. One interpretation may not mean the same for another person. The content of the dream will have to be taken into full account. And divine wisdom and insight from the Holy Ghost is also needed for accurate interpretations. Hope you understand.

God bless you.

Lamasta:

May the Almighty God continue to BLESS and INCREASE you in every area of your life Sir, the hands of the enemies will not touch You in JESUS name......
Reading the interpretation brought TEARS from my eyes as am reading it.....

Amen..
God bless you too Lamasta. Keep the fire burning

ngobaby23:


HI charly, you mentioned that man cannot order angels to do their bidding. It sounds foreign to me cos a lot of notable men of God do that and encourage that. Well I'm open to new teaching and the truth. please could you shed more light on that area? Thanks and God bless you.

Hello Ngo,

Anyone that tells you that men and women can command angels to do their bidding is teaching you a false doctrine either out of ignorance or deception.

There is no where in the bible that man has ever commanded an angel to do his bidding.

God's angels are holy and they take direct orders from God and not us. Angels are messengers of God and not messengers of man.


There are many stories in the scriptures that show us when God sent His angels plenty of times to help men (men/women).


When Peter was delievered from prison he testified that God sent His angel to rescue him (Acts 12:5-11)

God sent His angel to deliever Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego (Daniel 3:28)

God sent His angel to deliver the Israelites (Numbers 20:16)

God sent His angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah Genesis 19.


God sent His angels to deliver daniel from the lions and to deliver a prophecy(Daniel 6 vs 22 & Daniel 10)

In every place in the bible you'll see that God sent His disciples to help man, not man commanding the angels. Man has no authority over angels.
Angels are higher in rank than man. When Jesus came as a man into this world, He was made lower than the angels.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Hebrews 2 vs 9 correlates with verse 7.
God made man a little lower than the Angels. Thus, since Jesus came as a man, He had to be made lower than the angels as seen in verse 9.

Matthew 26 vs 53:
Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

This shows that Jesus would have to call on God for God to send Him His angels. Jesus was made lower than the angels at this time so He could not command the angels to do His bidding because He was now like Man (in the rank of man). When satan even tempted Him quoting the scriptures saying:

"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: ''He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.''

Jesus replied 'Thou shall not test the Lord thy God' Matthew 4 vs 6-7


Angels are representatives of God on earth and they have authority over man according to God's leading. And not the other way round.
Remember the angel that made Zechariah dumb? Luke 1:20


Though we have been risen with Jesus Christ, that does not mean we are higher than the angels in rank.

Thus, Jesus gives us the privelege to judge(krino greek: rule or govern) the angels when we're taken up into heaven. This simply means that we shall share in Jesus Christ's authority. We shall reign with Him in Heaven. 1 Corinthians 6


Anyone saying men and women can command angels to do their bidding is either ignorant or is a Liar.

I'm trying to imagine telling an angel to go and do something for me. #Unimaginable. Angels do not answer to man but God. If God does not send an angel to a person, the angel would never go to that person even if the person speaks in tongues or fast and prays for decades. If persistence is constant in prayers to command an angel. It would mean praying to an angel, which is a form of demon worship.

If a person starts saying something like 'Angel Michael i command you to come and do this and do that.. blah blah.. This is already a SUMMONING act unknown to the person. And Fallen/False angels will take advantage of this and appear disguised as real angels. No one would want to see a fallen angel dressed in white appear to them when they keep commanding their so called angels to do their bidding. lol. So please let it stop.


So pray to God using the Name of Jesus. And you can pray to God to send His angels to help you, and not you commanding the angels directly to do your bidding.

Hope you understand.


God bless you dear.

@ etidy and Processor01

Powerful posts. I was blessed.

God bless you guys

Kc3000:
This is an amazing thread.

Thank you for your kind words. We are grateful to God for His presence here.

God bless you

CharlyG1:


Hello Ngo,

Anyone that tells you that men and women can command angels to do their bidding is teaching you a false doctrine either out of ignorance or deception.

There is no where in the bible that man has ever commanded an angel to do his bidding.

God's angels are holy and they take direct orders from God and not us. Angels are messengers of God and not messengers of man.


There are many stories in the scriptures that show us when God sent His angels plenty of times to help men (men/women).


When Peter was delievered from prison he testified that God sent His angel to rescue him (Acts 12:5-11)

God sent His angel to deliever Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego (Daniel 3:28)

God sent His angel to deliver the Israelites (Numbers 20:16)

God sent His angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah Genesis 19.


God sent His angels to deliver daniel from the lions and to deliver a prophecy(Daniel 6 vs 22 & Daniel 10)

In every place in the bible you'll see that God sent His disciples to help man, not man commanding the angels. Man has no authority over angels.
Angels are higher in rank than man. When Jesus came as a man into this world, He was made lower than the angels.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Hebrews 2 vs 9 correlates with verse 7.
God made man a little lower than the Angels. Thus, since Jesus came as a man, He had to be made lower than the angels as seen in verse 9.

Matthew 26 vs 53:
Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

This shows that Jesus would have to call on God for God to send Him His angels. Jesus was made lower than the angels at this time so He could not command the angels to do His bidding because He was now like Man (in the rank of man). When satan even tempted Him quoting the scriptures saying:

"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: ''He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.''

Jesus replied 'Thou shall not test the Lord thy God' Matthew 4 vs 6-7


Angels are representatives of God on earth and they have authority over man according to God's leading. And not the other way round.
Remember the angel that made Zechariah dumb? Luke 1:20


Though we have been risen with Jesus Christ, that does not mean we are higher than the angels in rank.

Thus, Jesus gives us the privelege to judge(krino greek: rule or govern) the angels when we're taken up into heaven. This simply means that we shall share in Jesus Christ's authority. We shall reign with Him in Heaven. 1 Corinthians 6


Anyone saying men and women can command angels to do their bidding is either ignorant or is a Liar.

I'm trying to imagine telling an angel to go and do something for me. #Unimaginable. Angels do not answer to man but God. If God does not send an angel to a person, the angel would never go to that person even if the person speaks in tongues or fast and prays for decades. If persistence is constant in prayers to command an angel. It would mean praying to an angel, which is a form of demon worship.

If a person starts saying something like 'Angel Michael i command you to come and do this and do that.. blah blah.. This is already a SUMMONING act unknown to the person. And Fallen/False angels will take advantage of this and appear disguised as real angels. No one would want to see a fallen angel dressed in white appear to them when they keep commanding their so called angels to do their bidding. lol. So please let it stop.


So pray to God using the Name of Jesus. And you can pray to God to send His angels to help you, and not you commanding the angels directly to do your bidding.

Hope you understand.


God bless you dear.

You are absolutely right.

CharlyG1:


Hello Ngo,

Anyone that tells you that men and women can command angels to do their bidding is teaching you a false doctrine either out of ignorance or deception.

There is no where in the bible that man has ever commanded an angel to do his bidding.

God's angels are holy and they take direct orders from God and not us. Angels are messengers of God and not messengers of man.


There are many stories in the scriptures that show us when God sent His angels plenty of times to help men (men/women).


When Peter was delievered from prison he testified that God sent His angel to rescue him (Acts 12:5-11)

God sent His angel to deliever Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego (Daniel 3:28)

God sent His angel to deliver the Israelites (Numbers 20:16)

God sent His angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah Genesis 19.


God sent His angels to deliver daniel from the lions and to deliver a prophecy(Daniel 6 vs 22 & Daniel 10)

In every place in the bible you'll see that God sent His disciples to help man, not man commanding the angels. Man has no authority over angels.
Angels are higher in rank than man. When Jesus came as a man into this world, He was made lower than the angels.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Hebrews 2 vs 9 correlates with verse 7.
God made man a little lower than the Angels. Thus, since Jesus came as a man, He had to be made lower than the angels as seen in verse 9.

Matthew 26 vs 53:
Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

This shows that Jesus would have to call on God for God to send Him His angels. Jesus was made lower than the angels at this time so He could not command the angels to do His bidding because He was now like Man (in the rank of man). When satan even tempted Him quoting the scriptures saying:

"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: ''He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.''

Jesus replied 'Thou shall not test the Lord thy God' Matthew 4 vs 6-7


Angels are representatives of God on earth and they have authority over man according to God's leading. And not the other way round.
Remember the angel that made Zechariah dumb? Luke 1:20


Though we have been risen with Jesus Christ, that does not mean we are higher than the angels in rank.

Thus, Jesus gives us the privelege to judge(krino greek: rule or govern) the angels when we're taken up into heaven. This simply means that we shall share in Jesus Christ's authority. We shall reign with Him in Heaven. 1 Corinthians 6


Anyone saying men and women can command angels to do their bidding is either ignorant or is a Liar.

I'm trying to imagine telling an angel to go and do something for me. #Unimaginable. Angels do not answer to man but God. If God does not send an angel to a person, the angel would never go to that person even if the person speaks in tongues or fast and prays for decades. If persistence is constant in prayers to command an angel. It would mean praying to an angel, which is a form of demon worship.

If a person starts saying something like 'Angel Michael i command you to come and do this and do that.. blah blah.. This is already a SUMMONING act unknown to the person. And Fallen/False angels will take advantage of this and appear disguised as real angels. No one would want to see a fallen angel dressed in white appear to them when they keep commanding their so called angels to do their bidding. lol. So please let it stop.


So pray to God using the Name of Jesus. And you can pray to God to send His angels to help you, and not you commanding the angels directly to do your bidding.

Hope you understand.


God bless you dear.

thanks a lot. I'm really clear now. Thank you

@CharlyG1, you said we are ranked below the angels but bible said we shall judge the angels. So what does that mean?





1 corinthians 6:3
know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that partains to this life?