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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 5:49pm On Jul 04, 2016
Keep being surprised...who cares! undecided
Tnycee:
I'm not pained bro....was just surprised at your response. Just surprised.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by life707: 6:22pm On Jul 04, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oneshowguy: 10:17pm On Jul 04, 2016
Battery Sulfation

Causes of battery sulfation:

.Batteries sit too long between charges. As little as 24 hours in hot weather and several days in cooler weather.
.Battery is stored without some type of energy input.
.Undercharging of a battery to only 90% of capacity will allow sulfation of the battery using the 10% of battery chemistry not reactivated by not completing the charging cycle.
.Low electrolyte level - battery plates exposed to air will immediately sulfate.
Incorrect charging levels and settings. Rolls recommends a 3-phase charge cycle (Bulk, Absorption & Float). See State of Charge & charging information.
.The longer a battery sits and is not re-charged the more damaging sulfation build up there may be on the plates.

Studies have noted that nearly half of the L-16 battery capacity can be lost if the regulation voltage is too low and the time between finish-charges is too long.

In normal use, battery plates are getting sulfated all the time. When a battery is being discharged the lead active material on the plates will react with the sulfate from the electrolyte forming a lead sulfate on the plates. When there is no lead active material and or sulfate from the electrolyte remaining the battery then is completely discharged. After a battery reaches this state, it must be recharged. During recharge, the lead sulfate is reconverted into lead active material and the sulfate returned to the electrolyte.

When the sulfate is removed from the electrolyte the specific gravity is reduced and the reverse takes place when the sulfate is returned to the electrolyte. This is why the state of charge can be determined with the use of a hydrometer.
If a battery is left standing in a discharged condition the lead sulfate will become hard and have a high electrical resistance. This is what is normally called a sulfated battery. The lead sulfate may become so hard that normal recharging will not break it down. Most charging sources, engine alternators and battery chargers, are voltage regulated. Their charging current is controlled by the battery's state of charge. During charging, battery voltage rises until it meets the charger's regulated voltage, lowering the current output along the way.

When hard sulfate is present, the battery shows a false voltage, higher than it's true voltage, fooling the voltage regulator into thinking that the battery is fully charged. This causes the charger to prematurely lower it's current output, leaving the battery discharged. Charging at a higher than normal voltage and low current may be necessary to break down the hardened sulfate.

Hardened sulfate also forms in a battery that is constantly being cycled in the middle of its capacity range (somewhere between 80% charged and 80% discharged), and is never recharged to 100%. Over time, a portion of the plate's active materials turns into hard sulfate. If the battery is continually cycled in this manner, it will lose more and more of its capacity until it no longer has enough capacity to perform the task for which it was intended. An equalizing charge, applied routinely every three to four weeks, should prevent the sulfate from hardening.

In both cases, the fact that the battery "won't take a charge" is a result of improper charging procedures which allowed the sulfate to harden. In most instances, it is possible to salvage a battery with hardened sulfate. The battery should be charged from an outside source at 2.6 to 2.7 - volts per cell and a low current rate (approximately 5 Amps for small batteries and 10-Amps for larger ones) until the specific gravity of the electrolyte starts to rise. (This indicates that the sulfate is breaking down.) Be careful not to let the internal temperature of the battery rise above 125° F. If it does, turn the charger off and let the battery cool. Then, continue charging until each cell in the battery is brought up to full charge (nominal 1.265 specific gravity or higher).This time needed to complete this recharge depends on how long the battery has been discharged and how hard the sulfate has become.

The next time your batteries don't seem to be taking or holding a charge, check the specific gravity with a hydrometer. If all cells are low even after a long time on charge, chances are you've got some hardened sulfate that has accumulated on the plates. By following the instructions outlined above, the problem may be corrected.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oneshowguy: 10:39pm On Jul 04, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chris81964(m): 2:46am On Jul 05, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oneshowguy: 7:38am On Jul 05, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by viazi: 7:44pm On Jul 05, 2016
DMerciful:
Check if its a smart charger(regulated). Only use smart charger else I'll charge ur batteries to death!
That's the charger!

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 12:16pm On Jul 06, 2016
This is not a smart charger. It will ruin ur batteries!
viazi:

That's the charger!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 3:38pm On Jul 06, 2016
DMerciful:
This is not a smart charger. It will ruin ur batteries!
I think a fuller explanation will be of help. This type of charger is a bulk charger and has its use. I use it 4hours a day connected to a 24v 600amp setup with the rest of the charging done by my 1400w solar panels on 60amp MPPT CC.
To use that charger only or use it without good monitoring is extremely dangerous for you batteries. To leave your batteries empty /drained for long is also bad.
I will rather have this than nothing.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:14pm On Jul 06, 2016
durodee:

I think a fuller explanation will be of help. This type of charger is a bulk charger and has its use. I use it 4hours a day connected to a 24v 600amp setup with the rest of the charging done by my 1400w solar panels on 60amp MPPT CC.
To use that charger only or use it without good monitoring is extremely dangerous for you batteries. To leave your batteries empty /drained for long is also bad.
I will rather have this than nothing.

yeah..a certain level of skill n knowledge is required to use this charger.,,it isnt a smart charger as others hv pointed out.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 8:14pm On Jul 06, 2016
If you choose to monitor it urself and have d time fine...but if left unmonitored and there power supply for a long time the battery can swell due to overcharging and the risk of explosion for sealed batteries is there.
durodee:

I think a fuller explanation will be of help. This type of charger is a bulk charger and has its use. I use it 4hours a day connected to a 24v 600amp setup with the rest of the charging done by my 1400w solar panels on 60amp MPPT CC.
To use that charger only or use it without good monitoring is extremely dangerous for you batteries. To leave your batteries empty /drained for long is also bad.
I will rather have this than nothing.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fatjo(m): 5:03am On Jul 07, 2016
hi. Pls how many watt of solar panel is recommended for a 100ah deep cycle battery. Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Suko92(m): 11:01am On Jul 07, 2016
fatjo:
hi. Pls how many watt of solar panel is recommended for a 100ah deep cycle battery. Thanks
.

U can use any amount ofsolar panel for it in as much as u are using mppt charger controller in ur connection. Bur note if u are using more dan one panel to charge ur battery bank as it wil charge ur battery fast in due time, aw u ar going to arrange ur panel will depend on d voltage of ur battery. i.e 12v or 24v or 48v battery
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 1:39pm On Jul 07, 2016
abunafiu:


I honestly believe no one is doubting the US batts. Most of us including myself are always afraid of change. I have personally r esearched the US batts and I discovered its no diff from our beloved trojan.
Let me share my experience:
pls note: all I write here 2nite is my personal opinion and does not in any way mean I am 100% correct.

Few months ago, I discovered one of my trojans had an internal injury which made the batt read zero volt. I tested all 3 cells and discovered one of them is not connected. (I don't know what caused it).
I knew that if I open the battery, ill be able to fix the problem. As an academician, I began seroius research to find out how the internal structure of the T105 batt look like. My research led me to us batts. I can boldly say that" its either trojan copied us batt or vice versa".
I used the schematics I found from us batt to repair my failed T105 . I observed that both batts are d same in cell technology and internal design. it contained all the feats advertised by trojan. I dont know who is copying who among the two giants.
I even saw a video of how us batts are made but trojan kept theirs a secret. Trojans remain the market leader maybe because of their "packaging" but I believe us batts are similar to trojans.
I hope to use the us L16 for my next client.
Though, I don't think I have ever posted on this forum that I install for people but by d grace of God, I'll do this with us batts to show everyone that there's nothing wrong with them and I personally is not in doubt.
I am aware a friend (pharyn) is likely to be the first to use them within the nairaland solar forum, I want to encourage him to tell us how it went since he has now tasted both worlds.

And for those who cant afford both usa batts, I can boldly say that the mercury tubular being peddled by that aggressive marketer is a very good alternative. I had d privilege of installing 12 units of them with 15 units of 300w yashi mono panels and the result was impressive. I took time to observe the cells and was amazed as I doubted if they were mercury or trojan L16. (pls don't argue except u av seen both side by side).
But I have a strong feeling that mercury may reduce their standard in subsequent batches but the MADE IN USA BATTS(trojans and US) can never compromise standard.
@ op please what charge settings do you use for the Mercury tubular flooded batteries? Na gode
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 4:55pm On Jul 07, 2016
Suko92:
.

U can use any amount ofsolar panel for it in as much as u are using mppt charger controller in ur connection. Bur note if u are using more dan one panel to charge ur battery bank as it wil charge ur battery fast in due time, aw u ar going to arrange ur panel will depend on d voltage of ur battery. i.e 12v or 24v or 48v battery
grin some people wan burn house

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 10:12pm On Jul 07, 2016
DUNKA:
@ op please what charge settings do you use for the Mercury tubular flooded batteries? Na gode

Hard to get OEM charge profile for this battery all my searches resulted to null. Down side of buying little known (on a global scale ) product. Anyways I did get some information of off sukam tubular battery via their technical support in India ( told them I use their tubular batter... I lied)

Anyway my charging profile - based on what I gathered from other Indian made tubular battery like Sukam, luminous and exide - are as follows

Boost 14.4v to 14.6v. Tubular batteries according to most docs I read are said to be fully charged at 14.4v but the fact that some charge controllers are unable to accurately sense battery voltage .. Might be safer to set your controller to 14.6v for boost.

Float is 13.5v

Equalization is 15.5v

Hope this was of help
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by c0ogumo(m): 12:37am On Jul 08, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 1:47am On Jul 08, 2016
bigrovar:


Hard to get OEM charge profile for this battery all my searches resulted to null. Down side of buying little known (on a global scale ) product. Anyways I did get some information of off sukam tubular battery via their technical support in India ( told them I use their tubular batter... I lied)

Anyway my charging profile - based on what I gathered from other Indian made tubular battery like Sukam, luminous and exide - are as follows

Boost 14.4v to 14.6v. Tubular batteries according to most docs I read are said to be fully charged at 14.4v but the fact that some charge controllers are unable to accurately sense battery voltage .. Might be safer to set your controller to 14.6v for boost.

Float is 13.5v

Equalization is 15.5v

Hope this was of help
Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by netotse(m): 11:36am On Jul 08, 2016
c0ogumo:
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EVO2024E with 70A Charger
EVO4024E with 110A Charger
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N100K cheaper than MAGNUM

Email: info@solardepotng.com Mobile: 0812 626 1756

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Oga, do you have the board I referenced in this picture? how much is it? https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/148#47150942
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 1:03pm On Jul 08, 2016
oneshowguy:

Only the best, all of the time. Take advantage of the Long difference.
Long 7Ah battery now available for your UPS in nigeria.

Authorised vendors by APC schneider.....

For more enquiry contact 08123329521

[url][/url]http://www.kunglong.com/

I am actually interested in this. How much do they cost and how can it be procured in abuja



Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trueigbo: 10:44am On Jul 09, 2016
i need a solar system that can carry the following

1. TV set x 1
2. DSTV decoder x 1
3. Bulbs(10w) x 15
4. Bulbs (15-20w) x 2

what are the requirements
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Suko92(m): 11:57am On Jul 09, 2016
JUO:
grin some people wan burn house
Hehe ,sorry my mistake den, am stil learning when it comes to solar/inverter installation. Though am using 125watts panel on my 100amps battery with 20A mppt cc n its been working fine for me n thinking of adding more to it, ur explanation as for d watts panel to be used to above ? Wil be appreciated. Tanx lipsrsealed
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 5:10pm On Jul 09, 2016
Suko92:

Hehe ,sorry my mistake den, am stil learning when it comes to solar/inverter installation. Though am using 125watts panel on my 100amps battery with 20A mppt cc n its been working fine for me n thinking of adding more to it, ur explanation as for d watts panel to be used to above ? Wil be appreciated. Tanx lipsrsealed
I don't know the make of your battery and I don't know if the cells can take 20a. Just add one more 125-130w to stay within the range of 10-15a the avoid what you have in this picture

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 9:14pm On Jul 10, 2016
kiekie1:


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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by c0ogumo(m): 7:31am On Jul 12, 2016
netotse:


Oga, do you have the board I referenced in this picture? how much is it? https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/148#47150942

Please give us a call. We may have the board.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hazelj: 10:55am On Jul 12, 2016
Hello all,
I have 2 pcs of 6v 225aH batteries for sale. Used but in perfect condition. These are premium long life batteries.
Would be best for someone with a 12v inverter or as a replacement set.
Kindly contact me via email jovib7@yahoo.com.
Its going for 25k a pc.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hazelj: 10:56am On Jul 12, 2016
Still available.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BasedOnB: 12:42pm On Jul 12, 2016
Hello everyone. I'd appreciate some help here please.

I have a basic inverter set up which i've been using for a
couple of years without hassles. My inverter is a falcon
series 800va 12v Sukam inverter, and my current battery is
a 150 Ah 12v monilite ('Networking') battery. The battery
doesn't last for long anymore but i still get 3-4 hrs on the
average from it with my led tv/decoder combo after a full
charge (PHCN).

I recently moved to an area with non-existent PHCN supply,
and so i decided to incorporate a solar panel into the set up
to charge the battery. I got a 50W 12V panel and connected
it to the battery. The problem is the battery doesn't last long
@ all. I didn't use the battery for about 5 days in the hope of
getting a full charge. After 5 days, the battery didn't last for
2 hrs after loading my led tv (45W).

Right now, it doesn't even last long enough for me to charge my phone. It is that bad. Please what could be wrong?

The guy that sold the panel to me said i need to get a solar
charge controller to charge the battery, but i seriously doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. I feel the battery isn't just getting enough energy from the 50W solar panel.

Is the solar panel too small for the battery? The inverter isn't a solar inverter, but i've been using it since 2012 without issues.

I would appreciate your responses please.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BasedOnB: 12:50pm On Jul 12, 2016
DMerciful:
If you choose to monitor it urself and have d time fine...but if left unmonitored and there power supply for a long time the battery can swell due to overcharging and the risk of explosion for sealed batteries is there.

Please help with this.

I have a basic inverter set up which i've been using for a
couple of years without hassles. My inverter is a falcon
series 800va 12v sukam inverter, and my current battery is
a 150 Ah 12v monilite ('Networking') battery. The battery
doesn't last for long anymore but i still get 3-4 hrs on the
average from it with my led tv/decoder combo after a full
charge (PHCN).

I recently moved to an area with non-existent PHCN supply,
and so i decided to incorporate a solar panel into the set up
to charge the battery. I got a 50W 12V panel and connected
it to the battery. The problem is the battery doesn't last long
@ all. I didn't use the battery for about 5 days in the hope of
getting a full charge. After 5 days, the battery didn't last for
2 hrs after loading my led tv (45W).

Right now, it doesn't even last long enough for me to charge my phone. It is that bad. Please what could be wrong?

The guy that sold the panel to me said i need to get a solar
charge controller to charge the battery, but i seriously doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. I feel the battery isn't just getting enough energy from the 50W solar panel.

Is the solar panel too small for the battery? The inverter isn't a solar inverter, but i've been using it since 2012 without issues.

I would appreciate your responses please.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BasedOnB: 12:56pm On Jul 12, 2016
bigrovar:


Hard to get OEM charge profile for this battery all my searches resulted to null. Down side of buying little known (on a global scale ) product. Anyways I did get some information of off sukam tubular battery via their technical support in India ( told them I use their tubular batter... I lied)

Anyway my charging profile - based on what I gathered from other Indian made tubular battery like Sukam, luminous and exide - are as follows

Boost 14.4v to 14.6v. Tubular batteries according to most docs I read are said to be fully charged at 14.4v but the fact that some charge controllers are unable to accurately sense battery voltage .. Might be safer to set your controller to 14.6v for boost.

Float is 13.5v

Equalization is 15.5v

Hope this was of help

Please help with this.

I have a basic inverter set up which i've been using for a
couple of years without hassles. My inverter is a falcon
series 800va 12v sukam inverter, and my current battery is
a 150 Ah 12v monilite ('Networking') battery. The battery
doesn't last for long anymore but i still get 3-4 hrs on the
average from it with my led tv/decoder combo after a full
charge (PHCN).

I recently moved to an area with non-existent PHCN supply,
and so i decided to incorporate a solar panel into the set up
to charge the battery. I got a 50W 12V panel and connected
it to the battery. The problem is the battery doesn't last long
@ all. I didn't use the battery for about 5 days in the hope of
getting a full charge. After 5 days, the battery didn't last for
2 hrs after loading my led tv (45W).

Right now, it doesn't even last long enough for me to charge my phone. It is that bad. Please what could be wrong?

The guy that sold the panel to me said i need to get a solar
charge controller to charge the battery, but i seriously doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. I feel the battery isn't just getting enough energy from the 50W solar panel.
Is the solar panel too small for the battery? The inverter isn't a solar inverter, but i've been using it since 2012 without issues.

I would appreciate your response please.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by temizeee(m): 4:08pm On Jul 12, 2016
@BasedOnB abeg stop flooding the thread with yr issue, u need to get a better wattage solar panel.... 50watt sp is just peanut for inverter setup... Maybe you should try and start reading the thread from page one......a 50watt sp won't be 100% efficient self... U need to upgrade.

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