temizeee:
@BasedOnB abeg stop flooding the thread with yr issue, u need to get a better wattage solar panel.... 50watt sp is just peanut for inverter setup... Maybe you should try and start reading the thread from page one......a 50watt sp won't be 100% efficient self... U need to upgrade.

BasedOnB:


Please help with this.

I have a basic inverter set up which i've been using for a
couple of years without hassles. My inverter is a falcon
series 800va 12v sukam inverter, and my current battery is
a 150 Ah 12v monilite ('Networking') battery. The battery
doesn't last for long anymore but i still get 3-4 hrs on the
average from it with my led tv/decoder combo after a full
charge (PHCN).

I recently moved to an area with non-existent PHCN supply,
and so i decided to incorporate a solar panel into the set up
to charge the battery. I got a 50W 12V panel and connected
it to the battery. The problem is the battery doesn't last long
@ all. I didn't use the battery for about 5 days in the hope of
getting a full charge. After 5 days, the battery didn't last for
2 hrs after loading my led tv (45W).

Right now, it doesn't even last long enough for me to charge my phone. It is that bad. Please what could be wrong?

The guy that sold the panel to me said i need to get a solar
charge controller to charge the battery, but i seriously doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. I feel the battery isn't just getting enough energy from the 50W solar panel.

Is the solar panel too small for the battery? The inverter isn't a solar inverter, but i've been using it since 2012 without issues.

I would appreciate your responses please.

JUO:
I don't know the make of your battery and I don't know if the cells can take 20a. Just add one more 125-130w to stay within the range of 10-15a the avoid what you have in this picture

bravoalpha:
Hello house, am in need of an inverter system and was informed that voltron is a safe bet for me and it's reliable as against other brands. How much does the voltron 2000w and 3000w cost and what brand of battery is best with the system. Going through the pages I see that the hybrid inverters also seems to be okay. Now am confused as to which one to get. If I understand correctly, while getting the hybrid, I'll also have to the get the solar panels alongside too.
So is it cheaper or economical to go with the hybrid or it doesn't really make much of a difference. What's the estimate cost setup if I choose to go with the 2000w or 3000w voltorn inverter including batteries and setup as against the hybrid inverters.

Please house, I humbly request

bravoalpha:

Good day sir, we would be glad if you try our GENNEX hybrid inverter and strong GENNEX Gel batteries, we have had clients from this forum, who have installed are still enjoying their systems, if u dont mind to drop your number,or call Gennex on 08145463278

Please all the gurus in the house, I urgently await your response

BasedOnB:


Please help with this.

I have a basic inverter set up which i've been using for a
couple of years without hassles. My inverter is a falcon
series 800va 12v sukam inverter, and my current battery is
a 150 Ah 12v monilite ('Networking') battery. The battery
doesn't last for long anymore but i still get 3-4 hrs on the
average from it with my led tv/decoder combo after a full
charge (PHCN).

I recently moved to an area with non-existent PHCN supply,
and so i decided to incorporate a solar panel into the set up
to charge the battery. I got a 50W 12V panel and connected
it to the battery. The problem is the battery doesn't last long
@ all. I didn't use the battery for about 5 days in the hope of
getting a full charge. After 5 days, the battery didn't last for
2 hrs after loading my led tv (45W).

Right now, it doesn't even last long enough for me to charge my phone. It is that bad. Please what could be wrong?

The guy that sold the panel to me said i need to get a solar
charge controller to charge the battery, but i seriously doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. I feel the battery isn't just getting enough energy from the 50W solar panel.
Is the solar panel too small for the battery? The inverter isn't a solar inverter, but i've been using it since 2012 without issues.

I would appreciate your response please.

shithapuns:
@bigrover, if i get u right, u got 651w from a 660w panel connection?
was it instantenous/momentary....or it was steady for a few minutes?...n on a cloudy day again?
thats super fantastic, my 1kw panel setup normally outputs abt 700w to 760w even on the most sunny of days...though south east states.
whts the make of ur cc?

bigrovar:
Btw this little tool is great for keeping an eye on battery voltage, discharge rate and total cumulate every used by the inverter. It also helped me know the idle load of the inverter. It comes with a current shunt and a diagram on how to connect.. it's really helps me monitor and keep track of my load and discharge.

bigrovar:
I actually got the tool because I could not afford the trimetric 2030. Got this for less than 20 dollars off Aliexpress. Doesn't do the same job as Trimetric though. I use it mainly to keep a tap on my discharge rate, battery voltage and total power consumed in a circle. It is a generic product without a real name. Just search for peacefair. It can handle 100v and 100A

bigrovar:
I actually got the tool because I could not afford the trimetric 2030. Got this for less than 20 dollars off Aliexpress. Doesn't do the same job as Trimetric though. I use it mainly to keep a tap on my discharge rate, battery voltage and total power consumed in a circle. It is a generic product without a real name. Just search for peacefair. It can handle 100v and 100A

earthrealm:


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bigrovar:
I actually got the tool because I could not afford the trimetric 2030. Got this for less than 20 dollars off Aliexpress. Doesn't do the same job as Trimetric though. I use it mainly to keep a tap on my discharge rate, battery voltage and total power consumed in a circle. It is a generic product without a real name. Just search for peacefair. It can handle 100v and 100A

DMerciful:
There are many factors that can affect this setup.
1. A 50w panel can produce 4A when its at its peak power. 4A will take 150/4 =25hrs to fully charge. Now consider you have about 7 hrs of sunlight and due to the variable angle of sunlight you get maximum of 60% averagely from the panel which is 2.4A. With this fact, it will take about 2.4Ax7hrs/day x 9days =150AH of steady sunlight charging for d battery to full.
2. It also depends on how you position the panel to get max sunlight.
3. You need a charge controller to regulate the charging and also give you visibility of what's going on,
In summary, you need to change your battery and get about 200w*2 solar panel and an mppt charge controller to effectively charge ur battery as even a new battery degrades within a short time if consistently undercharge. Since where you stay now has poor mains supply, u need effective solar charging.....cutting corners will be a waste of money.

bigrovar:

Brother
Based on your comment. Here is what I think.
Your battery seems to have reached . EOL ( end of life).
It would be hard to say for sure because you supplied very little details on the type of battery it is. (Networking battery is not a type of battery) might want to supply he picture of the batt to help house Jedi Masters. Can it be revived. Maybe but don't put your hopes on it.
How long have u been using he batteries? How would you describe your regular usage patterns.. like how many hours does it run and how much load do u put on it during the run time.
My preliminary guess is that the batteries died due to being under charged and over discharged. I use the sukam falcon plus. And as much as I love that inverter. I have noticed that it is often times unable to fully charge a battery. In my case.. my charge controller continues to charge my battery even when my inverter has stopped charging. The reason for this is probably because the charging algorithms on the sukam is set on a very conservative side to prevent over charging.
Secondly you probably use this batteries till the inverter start singing low voltage. Nothing kills a deep cycle battery faster. They aren't meant to be 100% discharged. It shorting their life faster than ebola in a human body.
What can be done. Get a new battery but before u do. Have a hand on your consumption pattern. A well designed consumption pattern should be built around using 50% of your battery capacity and ensuring it is replaced fully before you use them again.. which leads us to power generarion.
Bros. That 50w panel is no where near what you need to charge your batteries. You would need at least 300w panels and preferably an mppt charge controller rated at 20ahs
Let's do some maths. So u have 300w panels.. let us take out the usual 77% loses to heat and charge controller efficiencies. 300*0.77 = 231.
So your 300w panel should give u around 230w daily divide that by your battery voltage 230 ÷ 12 =19.2
That's the average you would get from the panels with an mppt controller.
5 hours of sun is more than enough to charge your batteries to full from a 50% depth of discharge. You might want to get a 200ah battery in future. Luminous agm are some of the best in the market.
There hope that answers some questions. There are still so many things you need know. You might want to Google more and read back at the older discussions. Lots of value tressures back there.
My self too am a learner so you can always Google to see if what I say makes sense.

BasedOnB:


Oh, and my battery is a 150Ah Fiamm deep cycle battery. Is there any possibility of reviving it?

GeorgeD1:
butoneday,
thanks for the update. we will talk better when we see in town next week.


those 20v batteries will be 60v for 3 (three) in series which can be used for a 48v system.
same thing goes for 5 (five) pcs which will be 100v and can be used for a 96v system.

remember that even the so-called 12v batteries are just nominal name plate values.
practically when measured they give a voltage above that, some even up to 17 volts!

GeorgeD1:
butoneday,
thanks for the update. we will talk better when we see in town next week.


those 20v batteries will be 60v for 3 (three) in series which can be used for a 48v system.
same thing goes for 5 (five) pcs which will be 100v and can be used for a 96v system.

remember that even the so-called 12v batteries are just nominal name plate values.
practically when measured they give a voltage above that, some even up to 17 volts!

shithapuns:
@basedonB, ur batt looks like a gel/telecomm batt from the picture................if yes...then am sure its 99% dead,based on present earth technology as the high voltage has dried the conducting gel membrane btw the plates ......if its a deep cycle , u may consider opening up the 6 individual cells, and adding 2 to 3 10ml syringes of distilled water/ac water, and try charging the batt again, if flooded, u may consider replacing the electrolyte.....50/50 chance of success.

never connect ur battery direct to solar panel, as a solar panel rated as 12v..may generate up to 20v on sunny days, n this wud kill any 12v within days

Austinekg:
Please what will it cost me to get a solar and inverter set that can comfortably power the following appliances;

1 TV
3 18W bulb
1 decoder
1 DVD
1 Fan

Thanks in anticipation of positive responses.

durodee:

I eventually delved to the realm of thin film panels............14 pieces of 100W DuPont Apollo Panels, all in parallel to a 60amp iTracer MPPT CC............averages 50-59 amps by noon, got as high as 1646.2W or higher as spikes! So far so good!!!!
Trying but unable to load pics ??

chris81964:


Where did you buy your thin film. How are they doing in the rainy season?

durodee:

I think a fuller explanation will be of help. This type of charger is a bulk charger and has its use. I use it 4hours a day connected to a 24v 600amp setup with the rest of the charging done by my 1400w solar panels on 60amp MPPT CC.
To use that charger only or use it without good monitoring is extremely dangerous for you batteries. To leave your batteries empty /drained for long is also bad.
I will rather have this than nothing.

durodee:

I got it off/ through a friend as left over from a project. Contacted him recently for a friend on this forum. He claimed the panels he has now are not from the same manufacturer but a German company. Efficiency said to be better. Panels 140w @ 70 -75v range. He was not with the exact specifications where he was.Price is high 49k @ 350/watt. He claimed dollar wahala.
My system was thunderstruck a few weeks back and my EP solar 60amps MPPT cc was damaged . My measurements prior to the incident was encouraging. I generated 1.1kw by 10.31am despite the day being a bit cloudy. I am presently using an hybrid system which only calculates instantaneous yield and not total harvest. The performance seems OK but I don't have actual figures.