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Ibroboss:
Thats never the picture of a polytechnic in Nigeria, this is osogbo grammar school, osun state...

neva mind the guy

Babysho:
This guy....I don't want to insult you with your super power of mightiest irrational thinking.

Did you just state "Mode Of Dressing" as a reason for Unis to be better than Polys?? Your points are baseless and empty-contented.

I know you were in a Tricycle when you constructed this Ill(no slang,obsolete) write up. Although, I'm going to reply your unreasonable post but when you get home, relax, and repost points that are challengeable, and that should be front page worthy instead of the crap you made out there.


Although, your points are clearly stupid but sadly, some are partially true.
However, someone has already explained that a Graduate shouldn't be judged only by his institution and grade but by his current intelligence and wisdom also.

Nigerians and their "Pride and Show Off Attitude" is what is wrong with this mumu country. I hate Nigeria. I shouldn't be a Nigerian!.

By the way, I'm a Polytechnic student.

Way 4ward is the issue

predatorX:
Oga who masters don epp, JONATHAN NO BE PhD ? Abeg Park wella.
Don't feel inferior brah, I'm not on the same frequency with you, and I'm not beefing universities either. The notion that one is better than the other is what I'm kicking against as a living testimony.
whudda.Phuck does a Cisco certified Internet Expert need a petty M. Sc/M.Eng or PhD qualification for? My next target na CCVP so make you dey dia dey look for PHD, you can get that easily at UNIPORT ask Jonathan to show you the way.
The sooner we forget degree and begin to work with our hands and brains, the better for Nigeria.
All those useless doctors wey dey departments who cannot even write a useful article to improve approach to engineering mysteries nko?

Mowete Respect Sir, all others na wash ooo. Who dia PhD epp.

ure a networker...im pretty sure u didnt learn that or get ur CCNA in any poly!
d highest obtainable academic certificate is a ph.d and its given ONLY in the highest academic institutions (university).

Rick9:
I was offered Admission into UNIBEN first

was it the course u actually wanted to study? if yes, care to share why u rejected?

Harvard13:
was it the course u actually wanted to study? if yes, care to share why u rejected?

yes I was given the course I applied for, Philosophy

Harvard13:
ure a networker...im pretty sure u didnt learn that or get ur CCNA in any poly!
d highest obtainable academic certificate is a ph.d and its given ONLY in the highest academic institutions (university).

Yea, Right! Still clinging to that messed up understanding of yours that A university graduate/degree bests a polytechnic's.
The highest academic qualification in academia is PhD. (this is just lame bragging rights, nothing we do not know already, nothing intelligent involved, no substance perceived).
Point of correction, I'm CCIE. If you know the level of that, then you would know that I can lecture any PhD man in your university's computer engineering department. Should you be oblivious of the fact that Cisco courses are purely academic then, why do you think it is being included in YOUR ALMIGHTY (Superior) UNIVERSITY's and (inferior) Polytechnic's syllabus'

CISCO wouldn't bother their busy minds with crazy nomenclatures such as Doctor or Prof. B.S. But "nomenclature-loonies" like Nigeria have all the PhD's, and Prof but cannot make a single thing to even help their departments. A university bragging about having a Comp. Engineering dept. But Data-centre was designed and built by LG WTF.

You must change your O. T about uni being better than poly because they complement each other, and cannot function alone, but that's gonna be very difficult. Only those who have gone both routes are in a better, informed position to talk. "Those" like me.

predatorX:
Yea, Right! Still clinging to that messed up understanding of yours that A university graduate/degree bests a polytechnic's.
The highest academic qualification in academia is PhD. (this is just lame bragging rights, nothing we do not know already, nothing intelligent involved, no substance perceived).
Point of correction, I'm CCIE. If you know the level of that, then you would know that I can lecture any PhD man in your university's computer engineering department. Should you be oblivious of the fact that Cisco courses are purely academic then, why do you think it is being included in YOUR ALMIGHTY (Superior) UNIVERSITY's and (inferior) Polytechnic's syllabus'

CISCO wouldn't bother their busy minds with crazy nomenclatures such as Doctor or Prof. B.S. But "nomenclature-loonies" like Nigeria have all the PhD's, and Prof but cannot make a single thing to even help their departments. A university bragging about having a Comp. Engineering dept. But Data-centre was designed and built by LG WTF.

You must change your O. T about uni being better than poly because they complement each other, and cannot function alone, but that's gonna be very difficult. Only those who have gone both routes are in a better, informed position to talk. "Those" like me.

nice submission. https://www.nairaland.com/3230475/incessant-poly-uni-squabble-nairaland

predatorX:
Yea, Right! Still clinging to that messed up understanding of yours that A university graduate/degree bests a polytechnic's.
The highest academic qualification in academia is PhD. (this is just lame bragging rights, nothing we do not know already, nothing intelligent involved, no substance perceived).
Point of correction, I'm CCIE. If you know the level of that, then you would know that I can lecture any PhD man in your university's computer engineering department. Should you be oblivious of the fact that Cisco courses are purely academic then, why do you think it is being included in YOUR ALMIGHTY (Superior) UNIVERSITY's and (inferior) Polytechnic's syllabus'

CISCO wouldn't bother their busy minds with crazy nomenclatures such as Doctor or Prof. B.S. But "nomenclature-loonies" like Nigeria have all the PhD's, and Prof but cannot make a single thing to even help their departments. A university bragging about having a Comp. Engineering dept. But Data-centre was designed and built by LG WTF.

You must change your O. T about uni being better than poly because they complement each other, and cannot function alone, but that's gonna be very difficult. Only those who have gone both routes are in a better, informed position to talk. "Those" like me.

bros no deceive yourself...i still say u didnt get any of those networking stufffrom a poly. and BTW, many ph.d holders n networking already have their ccie, stop hyping

predatorX:
Yea, Right! Still clinging to that messed up understanding of yours that A university graduate/degree bests a polytechnic's.
The highest academic qualification in academia is PhD. (this is just lame bragging rights, nothing we do not know already, nothing intelligent involved, no substance perceived).
Point of correction, I'm CCIE. If you know the level of that, then you would know that I can lecture any PhD man in your university's computer engineering department. Should you be oblivious of the fact that Cisco courses are purely academic then, why do you think it is being included in YOUR ALMIGHTY (Superior) UNIVERSITY's and (inferior) Polytechnic's syllabus'

CISCO wouldn't bother their busy minds with crazy nomenclatures such as Doctor or Prof. B.S. But "nomenclature-loonies" like Nigeria have all the PhD's, and Prof but cannot make a single thing to even help their departments. A university bragging about having a Comp. Engineering dept. But Data-centre was designed and built by LG WTF.

You must change your O. T about uni being better than poly because they complement each other, and cannot function alone, but that's gonna be very difficult. Only those who have gone both routes are in a better, informed position to talk. "Those" like me.

bros no deceive yourself...i still say u didnt get any of those networking stufffrom a poly. and BTW, many ph.d holders n networking already have their ccie, stop hyping
oh...and FYI, A proffesional cert is different from an academic own brov

Rick9:
yes I was given the course I applied for, Philosophy

you didnt share why u rejected. my cousin was given maths in UNN but chose to read econs edu @ nwafor orizu. soon she will say she rejected one thing.

Harvard13:
bros no deceive yourself...i still say u didnt get any of those networking stufffrom a poly. and BTW, many ph.d holders n networking already have their ccie, stop hyping
oh...and FYI, A proffesional cert is different from an academic own brov

Keep living in self denial. A PhD holder who is also a CCIE, really That person must be Albert Einstein. Do you know how frustrating it is to get a doctorate in Nigeria? Then you spend another six or more years reading for CCIE?
Please learn something new today, which is: Cisco was once strictly professional but currently it's purely academic leading to a professional certification which is why it is currently included in all tertiary institutions' syllabus'

You, sir are ignorant, get informed

dadabashua1:
dont get me wrong my lovely sister, am not saying polytechnics graduates are not good. but university as an institution of learning is better, and not just any how universities o, Uni like, Abu, UI, unilag, OAU, Etc, like the big reputable ones, there are some universities that the polytechnics are much better than no doubt about that cutie .#smiling

You sounding better and more friendly now unlike your ealier harsh tone

Harvard13:
rodger gini?? lol, go nd ask.
plus HND holders start at a lower level to B.Sc holders (bout level 6 to 7)

Do the asking

mayorgt:
U don't really get my point, u will understand later. ☺☺

Just as you don't get mine too

Realrex:
U're obviously saying this with a bias mind, I did my OND in one Federal poly in the East I can confidently say that unless polytechnic restructure her modus operandi the disparity will prevail, it's obvious I had this notion back then in polytechnic but now I have a different perception about the two institutions. the differences can't be overemphasized but what OP said is right.

Good for you

Harvard13:
you didnt share why u rejected. my cousin was given maths in UNN but chose to read econs edu @ nwafor orizu. soon she will say she rejected one thing.

what did I said I rejected? I be never rejected anything oh

BornnAgainChild:
You sounding better and more friendly now unlike your ealier harsh tone

really? harsh... well am not a harsh guy in nature.

predatorX:
Keep living in self denial. A PhD holder who is also a CCIE, really That person must be Albert Einstein. Do you know how frustrating it is to get a doctorate in Nigeria? Then you spend another six or more years reading for CCIE?
Please learn something new today, which is: Cisco was once strictly professional but currently it's purely academic leading to a professional certification which is why it is currently included in all tertiary institutions' syllabus'

You, sir are ignorant, get informed

and there is a law that says u cant do both your ph.d and ur ccie concorrently? do u think ph.d takes all d time in the world?
networking is included in syllabus brother, CCNA is a pro certificate. dey dont give u any CCNA certificate if u like get A in your school. ull still go and write their pro exam!

Rick9:
what did I said I rejected? I be never rejected anything oh

d UNIBEN admission

BornnAgainChild:
Do the asking

sometimes if you cant ask the public, ask google.

This dichotomy is not only restricted to the private enterprises , the civil service of the nation owned at the state or federal government level also embrace this in their process of recruitment due to the fact that a new employee holding a HND certificates starts at the position of grade level 7 whereas a degree holder does so at grade level 8. Looking at the process of retirement in the civil service, it is learnt that a HND holder retires at the grade level 14 while a university graduate retires at grade level 16 .

At the corner of professionalism , higher percentage of professional institutions in Nigeria reserves an enjoyment galore for university graduate applicants in the course of their professional trainings such as ICAN whereas HND holders require some particular exams before being duly eligible . In the course of attaining postgraduate degrees such as
masters degree and doctor of
philosophy , a HND holder is required to procure a postgraduate diploma of a recognised university before he is eligible to further with his second degree .


from www.informationng.com/2013/06/opinion-the-discrimination-of-hnd-holders-in-nigeria.html

Harvard13:
sometimes if you cant ask the public, ask google.

This dichotomy is not only restricted to the private enterprises , the civil service of the nation owned at the state or federal government level also embrace this in their process of recruitment due to the fact that a new employee holding a HND certificates starts at the position of grade level 7 whereas a degree holder does so at grade level 8. Looking at the process of retirement in the civil service, it is learnt that a HND holder retires at the grade level 14 while a university graduate retires at grade level 16 .

At the corner of professionalism , higher percentage of professional institutions in Nigeria reserves an enjoyment galore for university graduate applicants in the course of their professional trainings such as ICAN whereas HND holders require some particular exams before being duly eligible . In the course of attaining postgraduate degrees such as
masters degree and doctor of
philosophy , a HND holder is required to procure a postgraduate diploma of a recognised university before he is eligible to further with his second degree .


from www.informationng.com/2013/06/opinion-the-discrimination-of-hnd-holders-in-nigeria.html

Beep me when you summarize this epistle.....too long to read

and there is a law that says u cant do both your ph.d and ur ccie concorrently?

i don't think you went to school. if not, you would know how strenuous, nay impossible to run a PhD, then learn CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE, whilst having in mind the fact that they last for just 2years. how do you wanna develop a thesis and at the same time pass a CCIE lab test.

do u think ph.d takes all d time in the world?

ask the lecturers in your departments who finished their B.Sc's in their mid-twenties, but are yet to get their doctorates even in their early-forties despite multiple attempts.

networking is included in syllabus brother, CCNA is a pro certificate. dey dont give u any CCNA certificate if u like get A in your school. ull still go and write their pro exam!

your intellect still presumes that all certificates must be carbon-etched on paper. The world is digital bro, current certificates are encoded, it's called DATABASING.

Majesticniyi:
I went to the best of both: ND in The Federal Poly, Ilaro and B.Sc in University of Ibadan....so I can authoritatively say UNIVERSITY EDUCATION IS A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION. The idea of polytechnic students being more practical oriented was debunked when I got to UI. Not a basis for quarrels though....my ND cert is what paved the way to me working in a multi national.

MODIFIED: at the end of the day, what matters is what you have upstairs....

Please educate the beclouded ones.
This is exactly my recommendation on a similar topic sometimes ago.
Only polytechnic grads who eventually continued in the Uni can tell them the truth https://www.nairaland.com/2073950/opinion-8-reasons-why-bsc/8#34347912

Harvard13:
d UNIBEN admission

I am in UNIBEN Na shooooo

BornnAgainChild:
Beep me when you summarize this epistle.....too long to read

summary
1. you should have asked as i told u
.

2. HND nd B.Sc dont start from same level of payment
.

3. dey dont end at same level
.

4. you need a pgd to do masters/ph.d if u have a HND

then there is a link for u

predatorX:
and there is a law that says u cant do both your ph.d and ur ccie concorrently?

i don't think you went to school. if not, you would know how strenuous, nay impossible to run a PhD, then learn CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE, whilst having in mind the fact that they last for just 2years. how do you wanna develop a thesis and at the same time pass a CCIE lab test.

do u think ph.d takes all d time in the world?

ask the lecturers in your departments who finished their B.Sc's in their mid-twenties, but are yet to get their doctorates even in their early-forties despite multiple attempts.

networking is included in syllabus brother, CCNA is a pro certificate. dey dont give u any CCNA certificate if u like get A in your school. ull still go and write their pro exam!

your intellect still presumes that all certificates must be carbon-etched on paper. The world is digital bro, current certificates are encoded, it's called DATABASING.

its quite easy to insult.
first of, most of my classmates have their CCNA (I Just graduated from ECE UNN and i plan to get mine before i go for NYSC). so if i did mine during my IT like most of my mates and do a follow up between now and NYSC, then another during NYSC, you wanna tell me that i wont have time to prepare for my CCIE between the years i spend in masters and ph.d which is actually research and not some strenuous school activity??

second, for every lecturer that spent 30 years working on his thesis, there is one that spent 5 years on his so if pple can lecture and run a ph.d, work in any office and run a ph.d, yes they can prepare for CCIE and run a ph.d especially if you work in a helping environment.

third, never in my comment did i mention anything bout paper certificate. CCNA is run by an independent company. learning networking in school will help you pass the exam but until u sit for the exam, ur school cant certify u CCNA. no need to argue.

Harvard13:
its quite easy to insult.
first of, most of my classmates have their CCNA (I Just graduated from ECE UNN and i plan to get mine before i go for NYSC). so if i did mine during my IT like most of my mates and do a follow up between now and NYSC, then another during NYSC, you wanna tell me that i wont have time to prepare for my CCIE between the years i spend in masters and ph.d which is actually research and not some strenuous school activity??

second, for every lecturer that spent 30 years working on his thesis, there is one that spent 5 years on his so if pple can lecture and run a ph.d, work in any office and run a ph.d, yes they can prepare for CCIE and run a ph.d especially if you work in a helping environment.

third, never in my comment did i mention anything bout paper certificate. CCNA is run by an independent company. learning networking in school will help you pass the exam but until u sit for the exam, ur school cant certify u CCNA. no need to argue.

Trying to see reason with you is difficult. When you keep mentioning CCNA I wonder what you think it is? even a school certificate holder can sit for it and score 1000 points. I don't wanna sound condescending though, but UNN GOODLUCK on your becoming a CCIE and PhD concurrently.

Do notify me when you achieve that feat......... Cheers
Leaves thread!!!!

cc; herexcellency

moscobabs:
U never make any sense op


No 1...u only gave university curriculum but what's Polytechnic curriculum?

and you are comparing what you can't define.

No 2....Structure?
How many polytechnics have u visited?
hope u r not comparing Poly Ibadan structure with that of AAU or OOU abi they are not universities?

No 3...Courses?

So only Law,Medicine and Arch are top of courses in the country What happen to Accounting , Engineering courses and others? Is there any Professional body tougher than ICAN in Nigeria? OK tel me the % of University graduates that passed ICAN in one seat

No 4...Mode of Dressing ? what is that have to do with the topic sef ...but op how many polytechnics u don visit o?

No 5... Academics staff.- This is the only good point u made in your topic but I remember my Rector in Ibadan Poly was Prof. Alabi deputized by Alh Balogun FCA in 2002/03

op...go and look for job with your university certificate!!!

proudly PolyIbadan.!!!