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truthmans2012:
So you mean those children and women are not enemies by reason of their age and sex? Who told you women don't fight? If they killed only the men, they would still have retained their enemies who would raise war against them the future.

But where did you see anyone: Jews or Christians killing people to convert them?

Why are ISIL, Book Haram, alshabab, alqueda etc killing people? When were they first attacked?

Where in the Bible did God command the Jew and Christians to fight for him?

See what Muhammad himself said:

Sahih Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."

The difference here is: Muhammad was killing for allahh, why Israelites were fighting to defending themselves.

If you justify muslims unprovoked killings, I.wonder what you will be saying if you are unfortunate to be at the scene of bombing and your hands and legs are cut off by bomb.

truthmans2012:
Muslims are killing in Saudi Arabia.

Muslims are killing in Nigeria.

Muslims are killing Mali.

Muslims are killing in Cameron.

Muslims are killing in Kenya.

Muslims are killing Turkey.

Muslims are killing in Syria.

Muslims are killing in Afghanistan.

Muslims are killing in Iraq

Muslims are killing France.

Muslims are killing in the US.

Tell me where allahh's hijadists are not committing crimes against humanity.

Could all of them be misinterpreting the quran?

Why is it that only the quran people misinterpret to commit genocide?


Which god is allahh who wants to ruin the whole world?

If you justify muslims unprovoked killings, I wish you run into the scene of bombing and get your hands and legs cut off to reap the fruits of your wickedness.

aminusanti:
I don't know when u will start reasoning like a normal human being.

Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about.006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist"

Since u know dis Qur'an better than the its followers get me answer to dis

whats Jihad?
Whats d greatest jihad in islam?
Pls, tell me what category would u put the 99% muslims?? and Ninety-eight percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism. And what happened to their interpretation for not killing non-belivers??

truthmans2012:
But you said ISIS and other islamic terrorist groups are not muslims, yet Isis leader studied islam. Everyone can see you are a liar.

I told you to paste where they bombed anybody in the link you gave you couldn't. Stop lying.

SUPERPACK:
Ecclesiastes 3:1
Everything that happens in this world happens at the time God chooses.
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Violence has no religion. The Lord is our strength.

truthmans2012:
Islamic unprovoked killings started since the time of Muhammad (about 1400 years ago) and continue till now. To you, God chose killing the innocent since the time of Muhammad, then, when will it end?

truthmans2012:
Why should there be 1% islamic terrorists?

The 1% is capable of destroying the remaining world population because they use sophisticated weapons.

All of you are dodging the question: why is it only the Quran people read and become terrorists?

truthmans2012:
You see how muslims lie. You claimed the armyofgod does commit genocide and when asked to show where and how they commit one, you ran away.

SUPERPACK:
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men
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www.religioustolerance.org/hom_0027.htm
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www.terroristgroupsjmsn.weebly.com/army-of-god.html
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony

truthmans2012:
I couldn't find in all your links where muslims were attacked for islam.

If anybody committed terrorism, we do not find such example and instructions from Jesus. Same cannot be said of islam where Muhammad and his allahh gave clear instructions to muslims to terrorize infidels.

The difference between the two is that it is out of place for Christians to terrorize while it is a norm for muslims to do so. If you find terrorists in the US claiming to be Christians, is it on global dimension like that of the muslims? It is not global because there is no such command in the Bible.

As you are justifying islamic unprovoked killings, pray that you or your relative will be victims, afterall, martyrdom is a reward for you from allahh.

SUPERPACK:
where did i justify islamic killing pls point it out on any of my post on nairaland?.
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You claim that jesus did nt instruct the christians to kill, but God himself allowed the israelites to kill the pagans and blasphemers in the old testament, under the guildance of moses and joshua,
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The question is why did he allow killing in the old testament bt nt in the new testament?.
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For ur information am nt a muslim and can never ever be one in Jesus Name.

truthmans2012:
You did justify it when you said you didn't care and that your father in heaven chose it.

The Israelites had God's laws as their constitution, there is penalty including death for anyone who contravened them.

Other killings in the OT were reprisal wars on national basis. They were not a religious group like Muhammad and his jihadists seeking to convert people to islam by force.

k911m6104e2:
Bro calm down!
Even in modern warfare, you only attack people with weapons, in this case are soldiers. The ever merciful Jehovah in his whole encompassing mercy should be more compassionate when compared to an ordinary man!

If Jehovah could command an offensive against unarmed children and women, where is the compassion?
What happened to slap the right cheek, turn the left?

Why are you not giving a response on the invasion of Andalucia by Christians and the atrocities of the crusaders?

SUPERPACK:
it is gross hypocrisy when u justify the killings and massacre in the old testament bt frown at the ones going on today. are the islamic sect fighting to kill the whole world or just a state to practice their religion without limit?.
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when the israelites where destroying the temple of the pagans and killing them what was their intention.?
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Why did moses encourage the killing of the worshippers of the golden calf.
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Why did josiah destroy all the pagan and idol worshippers temple when he was the king.
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if u kill somebody for being a pagan what do u intend for him to worship?.

Papist:
Invasion of Andalucia by Christians? Are you crazy? Andalucia was invaded by Moslems coming out of North Africa. Andalucia at that time had been Christian for more than 5 centuries. The Christian kings of Northern Spain simply liberated Andalucia from Islamic tyranny. I'm sure you also are unaware that modern Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine and all Northern Africa were Christian before they were invaded and forced to convert by Moslem Arabs.

SUPERPACK:
it is gross hypocrisy when u justify the killings and massacre in the old testament bt frown at the ones going on today. are the islamic sect fighting to kill the whole world or just a state to practice their religion without limit?.
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when the israelites where destroying the temple of the pagans and killing them what was their intention.?
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Why did moses encourage the killing of the worshippers of the golden calf.
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Why did josiah destroy all the pagan and idol worshippers temple when he was the king.
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if u kill somebody for being a pagan what do u intend for him to worship?.

k911m6104e2:
Islamic tyranny?
Christians were allowed to practice their religion during the period of Islamic Occupation, hope you knew what happened immediately Christianity gained the upper hand? Forced conversions were the order of the day. I should also say there were several massacres too.

All what was done was exactly in accordance to the Bible verses as I would quote below:

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any
of thy gates which the LORD thy God
giveth thee, man or woman, that hath
wrought wickedness in the sight of the
LORD thy God, in transgressing his
covenant;

17:3 And hath gone and served
other gods, and worshipped them, either
the sun, or moon, or any of the host of
heaven, which I have not commanded;

17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast
heard of it, and enquired diligently, and,
behold, it be true, and the thing certain,
that such abomination is wrought in
Israel;

17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth
that man or that woman, which have
committed that wicked thing, unto thy
gates, even that man or that woman, and
shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Are you still saying the all Merciful Jehovah would have survived till the present age without the decree of terror? Would he have survived without commanding Genocide?

On the prospect of Invasion, that was a weapon of subjugating tribes, expanding territories and gaining war bounties in the past.

If every other religion motivated by political resolve was doing this, should Muslims in the past watch their countries eroded by war? should they not have made efforts?

Since you guys claim christianity is so peaceful, why shouldn't the past Christian kings leave their fights for Jehovah? Didn't christ give the order of slap the right, turn the left?

I'm not in anyway supporting the terror acts propagated under the shade of Islam, all I'm saying is people should view matters objectively.

truthmans2012:
All of your above quotes are referring to the community of Israel. The Israelites lived by God's laws and were not allowed to practice paganism. They didn't leave their community to fight idol worshipers. Please note the phrases in bold.

k911m6104e2

SO it should be concluded that the old testament was for Israel and Israel alone? Present day Christians are not to live by Jehovah's law right?

I would also enjoin you to read Numbers 31 too.
Should we also conclude that all violence propagated under christianity in the past were borne out of personal vendetta?

The forceful conversion of pagans and Muslims alike were carried out to gain souls for who, if not Jehovah? The Christian kings that orchestrated these acts were israelites too? Were they reading another type of Bible with inspiration drawn from opium and not the Holy Spirit?

Except if you would disregard the old testament and say it was directed towards the Israelites, the Bible still remains one of the greatest book of violence in the history of Mankind!

k911m6104e2:
Islamic tyranny?
Christians were allowed to practice their religion during the period of Islamic Occupation, hope you knew what happened immediately Christianity gained the upper hand? Forced conversions were the order of the day. I should also say there were several massacres too.

All what was done was exactly in accordance to the Bible verses as I would quote below:

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any
of thy gates which the LORD thy God
giveth thee, man or woman, that hath
wrought wickedness in the sight of the
LORD thy God, in transgressing his
covenant;

17:3 And hath gone and served
other gods, and worshipped them, either
the sun, or moon, or any of the host of
heaven, which I have not commanded;

17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast
heard of it, and enquired diligently, and,
behold, it be true, and the thing certain,
that such abomination is wrought in
Israel;

17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth
that man or that woman, which have
committed that wicked thing, unto thy
gates, even that man or that woman, and
shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Are you still saying the all Merciful Jehovah would have survived till the present age without the decree of terror? Would he have survived without commanding Genocide?

On the prospect of Invasion, that was a weapon of subjugating tribes, expanding territories and gaining war bounties in the past.

If every other religion motivated by political resolve was doing this, should Muslims in the past watch their countries eroded by war? should they not have made efforts?

Since you guys claim christianity is so peaceful, why shouldn't the past Christian kings leave their fights for Jehovah? Didn't christ give the order of slap the right, turn the left?

I'm not in anyway supporting the terror acts propagated under the shade of Islam, all I'm saying is people should view matters objectively.

aminusanti:
I don't know when u will start reasoning like a normal human being.

Research Study places the number of Muslims worldwide to be around 1.6 billion (or 23% of the world's population). So doing some basic math, we get that about.006625% of the Muslim population are "extremist"

Since u know dis Qur'an better than the its followers get me answer to dis

whats Jihad?
Whats d greatest jihad in islam?
Pls, tell me what category would u put the 99% muslims?? and Ninety-eight percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism. And what happened to their interpretation for not killing non-belivers??

true2god:
I don't know where you get your bogus statistics, the last time I checked it is still a crime, punishable by death, to abandon Islam in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, and other Islamic states. This is in obedient to Mohammed who said: 'if anyone leaves the Islamic religion, kill him'.

The last time I checked it is criminal offense to build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia but the Saudis are spending billions of dollars to build mosque and Islamic centers in non-muslims lands.

The last last time I checked the penalty for blaspheming Islam, Mohammed and allahh is death in all Muslim countries. The list is endless. The fact remains, Islam is a religion formed by a bunch of Arab criminals who are bent on global dominance. So your peaceful Islam is a myth that can only exist in the psych of brainwashed Muslims like you. No practical proof supported your 0.06625%. You must be dozing while typing this lies of yours.

plappville:
Allah is a blood socking god. He has socked again in Nice, France. Islam has done too much harm to thé humanity..

true2god:
I don't know where you get your bogus statistics,

the last time I checked it is still a crime, punishable by death, to abandon Islam in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, and other Islamic states. This is in obedient to Mohammed who said: 'if anyone leaves the Islamic religion, kill him'.

The last time I checked it is criminal offense to build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia but the Saudis are spending billions of dollars to build mosque and Islamic centers in non-muslims lands.

The last last time I checked the penalty for blaspheming Islam, Mohammed and allahh is death in all Muslim countries.

[s]The list is endless. The fact remains, Islam is a religion formed by a bunch of Arab criminals who are bent on global dominance. So your peaceful Islam is a myth that can only exist in the psych of brainwashed Muslims like you. [/s]

No practical proof supported your 0.06625%. You must be dozing while typing this lies of yours.

SUPERPACK:
here is a website of a christian terrorist organisation. http://www.armyofgod.com
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C

SUPERPACK:
Can i see ur proof that Isis, Bokoharam and alqaeda militants are muslems.

aminusanti:
Here is my source and where is yours pls??

"http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/06/07/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/"



The Quran itself does not specify a punishment for apostasy, or the “leaving, departing away from, or deserting, one's religion." The Prophet Muhammad is recorded as saying: “‘Whosoever changes his religion, kill him,” that penalty only applies to those who leave the faith and then are found to be working against the interests of the Islamic state even if the purnishment is to kill straight Almighty knows best why.

PLS HOW WILL EXPLAIN THIS VERSE

Luke 19:27 Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence!'”



Isaiah 606. The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD. 

7. "All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory".

Isaiah 35.8 "And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness; it will be for those who walk on that Way. The unclean will not journey on it; wicked fools will not go about on it
"Few points to notice here:If this is the case, then this prosperity has got to be Islam! This is further seen in the "Way of Holiness"

(Isaiah 35:that Arabia will have in it, that no unclean person is allowed to take. This would, without a doubt, then be referring to the Muslims' yearly pilgrimage to Mecca, today.and read the Qur'anic verse below to see the similarities

"Behold! We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House [That is the Kaaba that he built], (Saying): 'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer). And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"


Stop lying my friend and who said the penalty should be death pls educate us with some scripture refs and also explain this to us mr pastor

Leviticus 24:16 states that those who speak blasphemy shall surely be put to death. The seven laws of Noah seen by Judaism as applicable to all of humankind prohibits blasphemy In Christian theology, the Gospel of Mark 3:29, describes blaspheming the holy spirit as unforgiveable eternal sin. 


USELESS. GO SEEK FOR PROPER KNOWLEDGE MY FRIEND



BELOW IS MY SOURCE KINDLY PROVIDE URS OR ESLE...
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/06/07/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/"

gimakon:
Now u want to defend Islam to make us liars? Ok wait let's see who are liars now

Cc Blackfire, ari3l, plappville

aminusanti:
Invite more of those KAFIRS, funny clowns

truthmans2012:
Kafirs are far better than muslims, wicked beings.

It is only Satan adherents that can be as callous as muslims. Allah is Satan.

truthmans2012:
Kafirs are far better than muslims, wicked beings.

It is only Satan adherents that can be as callous as muslims. Allah is Satan.