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Quick Question For Christians by RENOWNED2(op): 12:08am On Jul 24, 2016

Am neither an atheist or Christian, infact,I've never been a fan of name branding but just wanted to ask a quick question. Here goes.

Some Christians use the logic that anything that shows any sort of intelligence must have been created by an intelligent being ie God but they forget that this logic goes both ways.For example some of you say things like" look at the stars, moon,us humans,we had to be created by an intelligent being because nothing this good can come by chance".

But the thing is God is also an intelligent being ie assuming he created the earth. So, does that mean that God was created by another intelligent being huh

Or,if he was formed out of nothing then, why is it so hard to you to believe that the universe or humans are product of the same huh

Thoughts??

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 4:41am On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
Am neither an atheist or Christian, infact,I've never been a fan of name branding but just wanted to ask a quick question. Here goes.

Some Christians use the logic that anything that shows any sort of intelligence must have been created by an intelligent being ie God but they forget that this logic goes both ways.For example some of you say things like" look at the stars, moon,us humans,we had to be created by an intelligent being because nothing this good can come by chance".

But the thing is God is also an intelligent being ie assuming he created the earth. So, does that mean that God was created by another intelligent being

Or,if he was formed out of nothing then, why is it so hard to you to believe that the universe or humans are product of the same

Thoughts??

God is eternal, so the question doesn't work.

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by izzou(m): 4:48am On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
Am neither an atheist or Christian, infact,I've never been a fan of name branding but just wanted to ask a quick question. Here goes.

Some Christians use the logic that anything that shows any sort of intelligence must have been created by an intelligent being ie God but they forget that this logic goes both ways.For example some of you say things like" look at the stars, moon,us humans,we had to be created by an intelligent being because nothing this good can come by chance".

But the thing is God is also an intelligent being ie assuming he created the earth. So, does that mean that God was created by another intelligent being

Or,if he was formed out of nothing then, why is it so hard to you to believe that the universe or humans are product of the same

Thoughts??

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by malvisguy212: 7:37am On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
Am neither an atheist or Christian, infact,I've never been a fan of name branding but just wanted to ask a quick question. Here goes.

Some Christians use the logic that anything that shows any sort of intelligence must have been created by an intelligent being ie God but they forget that this logic goes both ways.For example some of you say things like" look at the stars, moon,us humans,we had to be created by an intelligent being because nothing this good can come by chance".

But the thing is God is also an intelligent being ie assuming he created the earth. So, does that mean that God was created by another intelligent being

Or,if he was formed out of nothing then, why is it so hard to you to believe that the universe or humans are product of the same

Thoughts??

God is a spirit, A spirit is NOT a MATERIAL effect.

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 9:13am On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
God is eternal, so the question doesn't work.

How do you know the universe is not eternal?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 9:50am On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
How do you know the universe is not eternal?

Big bang cosmology.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 9:58am On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
Big bang cosmology.

You accept the big bang now?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 10:07am On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
You accept the big bang now?

Yes don't u?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 11:19am On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
Yes don't u?

Interesting. So you disagree with the Genesis account?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 11:32am On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
Interesting. So you disagree with the Genesis account?

I don't agree with the YEC interpretation.

Also do u accept the big bang theory?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 11:43am On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
I don't agree with the YEC interpretation.

Also do u accept the big bang theory?

So you are one of those christians that have modified the Bible to conform to reality. Well done. I do not fully undestand the BBT to the extent that I would be able to declare it as true or false. I only acknowledge it as the prevailing scientific explanation for the origin of our universe.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 11:49am On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
So you are one of those christians that have modified the Bible to conform to reality. Well done. I do not fully undestand the BBT to the extent that I would be able to declare it as true or false. I only acknowledge it as the prevailing scientific explanation for the origin of our universe.

I haven't modified anything, I'm just not a fundamentalist.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by dorox(m): 12:01pm On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
Interesting. So you disagree with the Genesis account?

I guess you were hoping to get a different answer that fits into your stereotype of what a christian believe should be regarding creation.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 12:22pm On Jul 24, 2016

dorox:
I guess you were hoping to get a different answer that fits into your stereotype of what a christian believe should be regarding creation.

Not 'should be'. 'Is'. Anything different is a modification brought by people like you to conform to modern scientific realities. Unless you want to claim that the Holy Spirit revealed this 'new discoveries' to you. After scientists had already done so.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Maamin(m): 12:27pm On Jul 24, 2016

Op, ignore all the posters above..God is infinite and he is the origin of creation, of our universe..he is the big bang that happened before time began. cool

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by RENOWNED2(op): 1:03pm On Jul 24, 2016

Maamin:
Op, ignore all the posters above..God is infinite and he is the origin of creation, of our universe..he is the big bang that happened before time began.

so you have never wondered about God's origin huh

really?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by RENOWNED2(op): 1:05pm On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
God is eternal, so the question doesn't work.

what do you mean by eternal??Everything has a beginning.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Weah96: 1:14pm On Jul 24, 2016

Don't mind them. The god who became a Jewish man does not have beginning. Simple minded people think it's an offense to use their brains, that stupi.dity is a virtue to enter heaven and collect mansions and gold.

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 1:20pm On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
what do you mean by eternal??Everything has a beginning.

Eternal means God always existed.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Weah96: 1:22pm On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
Eternal means God always existed.

How is that possible? Where did you obtain your information.

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Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 1:33pm On Jul 24, 2016

Weah96:
How is that possible? Where did you obtain your information.

Don't know, just showing him that applying the same logic to God won't work.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by malvisguy212: 1:57pm On Jul 24, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
Interesting. So you disagree with the Genesis account?

does the Genesis account disagree with the big bang ?

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Ranchhoddas: 2:19pm On Jul 24, 2016

malvisguy212:
does the Genesis account disagree with the big bang ?

Without any modifications. Yes it does. Plants did not exist before the sun and the universe wasn't created in six days.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by RENOWNED2(op): 2:32pm On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
Eternal means God always existed.

eternal to who?, us humans?,the universe? or something else.This doesn't change the fact according to your theory that he had to come from somewhere
.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by RENOWNED2(op): 2:35pm On Jul 24, 2016

Richirich713:
Don't know, just showing him that applying the same logic to God won't work.

Lol at "don't know"

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 2:47pm On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
eternal to who?, us humans?,the universe? or something else.This doesn't change the fact according to your theory that he had to come from somewhere
.

Lol my theory, Wat u talking bout dude? I'm just telling it like it is and according to the word "eternal" God always existed.

Re: Quick Question For Christians by Richirich713: 2:49pm On Jul 24, 2016

RENOWNED2:
Lol at "don't know"

That's the beauty of it, I don't have to know how, all I need to know is that it is logically coherent.

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