₦airaland Forum

JackBaueress1:
If you were being disturbed during your jumaat service, why not complain to the church authorities first and if you're not satisfied report to the appropriate authorities before taking laws into your own hands?

They can never reason like that.

Its a pity.

dfav:
Until we Christians prepare to return fire for fire.. there may likely b no Christian left in Nigeria after these usman dan folio jihadists are through with us.

You are right.

hypocritical peice of fleshs will come be blaming them

what will you all do if you sunday service were disturbed deliberatly by anybody.

it is obviouse the church did it delibrately knowing fully well there was friday prayers going on

this look like a setup thou if not why run if you feel you are not doing anything wronge.

tthis was how a church opposite Navy barr. in Calabar turned all there very lound speakers to the barrack. And they will be disturbing the barrack every time event at night.

it was the same christians that went there and sieze thier sound system, they later came and pleaded not to disturbe againand since then they never disturbed again even on sundays.

The issue of disturbing public peace applies to both folds.... Just as the imam make his call to prayer over their horn speaker at 5am so also does the church closeby tune their fake amplifier to the loudest at 12 midnight in the name of vigil, both inconsiderate of others.

I know legislation exist to deal with these issues but our fanatical selves would not allow for civil resolutions to these conflicts.

In the recent past, Lagos state closed down some mosques and churches over what it termed noise pollution and its action was greeted with threats of fire and brimstone in the after life by both folds, both operating under the illusions that their believes have any bearing on the other man.

demolinka:
Una wey dey disturb me by 5:00am, nko? Anyways I don convert their noise to alarm

Both religion are culpable of that nuisance act

I once had and heated conversation around 5am with an idiot preaching salvation and threatening hell fire for those that didn't give their life to Christ. I was ready to have him arrested for disturbing the peace of residents

Just imagine what the stupid fellow said... immediately after a jumat service, what comes to your shallow mind is to go and STEAL... It means the tenets of Islam is still yet to sink in to their brains... no wonder they lack reasoning and a basic sense of decence... just a few however do..

Tetanus really dey their brain! See foolish excuse? Muslims always tie their horn speakers outside their mosque! But they don't want to listen to other people exercising their own right?
Muslims are just so intolerant
I'm not in support of people forming nuisance in the name of religion but Muslims are mostly intolerant

The usual way of justifying evil. These people want the whole world sit on a timed bomb.✴✴✴↕

What of the those turning speakers to make the loudest voice and force all people near and far to wake up every morning? Is the action justified and of any benefit to those who don't practice the same religion?

donodion:
Let us be honest and open minded about this. Nigerians like to quote "freedom and rights" but fail to consider responsibilities that goes with such.We abuse the very same rights and privileges democracy afforded us.

There is no respect for human rights, gender rights, religious tolerance, etc just to mention few.

The Church is located opposite the mosque according to report.Unless the church is having special programe e.g vigil, churches usually hold their services Sundays in the morning and evening during the weekdays.

Its without doubt that Northern Nigeria is and has always been a hotspot for religious crisis..since indigenes are predominantly Muslims.

Why then do we create storm and when it pours we cry victim?.Not justifying the almajiris criminal intents, however from the suspects confession,they were provoked.

Over the period of years we refused to learn from history, but keep engaging in not to so friendly actions that generate sparks of hate ,to the docile and fragile peaceful co-existence amongst us as different ethnics and religious faithfuls.

If we wont respect,tolerate and understand the need to blend mutually, we might as well pull back to our various states and roots of origin,living freely as everyone unruly deems fit.

Wrong.

And tolerance means the church should not practise for the sunday service?

Did they enter the mosque to sing? So because the north is mainly muslim christians should tolerantly stop practising their religions?

You keep asking for tolerance from christians while expecting zero from the Muslims. That is why they keep pushing the limits. Thats is why they are trying to expand sharia law in the house of assembly. Since christians must be tolerant while they are being oppressive

Tolerance must go both ways or else they will one day kill you because you refuse to think like them

ItsMeAboki:
Your verbal insult against the religion rather than the perpetrator is even worse than the physical attack on the church by this gang of boys.
At least they were directing their attack against the immediate cause of their anger (i.e. the church noise making) but you rather foolishly chose to instead condemn the entire religion of Islam as if the religion itself incited those boys to attack the church - even as the police had clearly identified the motive behind the attack as robbery.

By the same token, I wonder what names or insults you would unleash on Christianity if I told you that the same thing happened in Akwa Ibom but this time it was Christian youths who attacked and burnt a church because the church's daily activity was interfering with their own criminal activities.

https://www.nairaland.com/3178357/photos-hoodlums-set-uyo-church-ablaze

Note no religion commits crime but ppl do - so stop this foolish bigotry.

And if you must know, United Nations (UNESCO) recently judged Islam as the most peaceful religion in the world.

https://www.nairaland.com/3213751/unesco-declares-islam-most-peaceful

. Hahahahahahahahha irony
That was a terrible irony
So you couldn't note the sarcasm
With all the Isis shit?, bokoharam, Muslim brotherhood, Hezbollah, shabite, and all nonsensical Islamic groups?
You must be a zombie to belief such award

MadCow1:
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I have to say I agree with this Nigga.. Not as a matter of right but courtesy.


Friday is their day, how about Christians just give them space to handle their business on this day in peace.

so u encouraging this barbaric act?

Moz22:
so u encouraging this barbaric act?

Where in my post did you read that? or where in my post did I imply that?


Try again later..

kolaish:
MY BROTHER, YOU STARTED WELL WITH YOUR COMMENTS BUT LATER YOU DERAILED. WITH DUE RESPECT MY BROTHER, DO NOT LET ANY BODY OR ORGANISATION DECEIVE YOU WITH AWARD, because I KNOW THAT U ARE MORE ENLIGHTENED. AT LEAST MORE THAN 11,550 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED THIS YEAR ALONE BY MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND YOU ARE TALKING OF RELIGION OF PEACE AND CERTIFICATE. PLEASE I AM NOT RAINING INSULT AND IF YOU ARE ANNOYED WITH ME PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT I WILL KINDLY ADVICE U TO VISIT www.thereligionofpeace.com

It is unfortunate that many of you have already been conditioned by years of propaganda by the Christian owned and control world media, a very subtle but powerful tool of mind control which had been shaping your mindset and general perception of today's world, including your moral and ethical values - an ability to distinguish between right and wrong.
Pls just don't talk about killings otherwise I will be oblige to refer to the monumental killings being perpetrated by Christians either directly or indirectly from time immemorial to date.
Let me give you just a little flavour of Christian caused deaths: check out the crusades, the creators and owners of weapons of mass destruction e.g. atomic/nuclear bomb and the first to use it; current world leaders in arms production and sales; current sponsors of terrorists - does the name Middle East ring a bell?

[quote author=greatness22 post=47849734]Yoruba muslims think with their head, but all these hausa muslim, cow get sense pass dem.[/quote all of u are d same jo

ItsMeAboki:
Your verbal insult against the religion rather than the perpetrator is even worse than the physical attack on the church by this gang of boys.
At least they were directing their attack against the immediate cause of their anger (i.e. the church noise making) but you rather foolishly chose to instead condemn the entire religion of Islam as if the religion itself incited those boys to attack the church - even as the police had clearly identified the motive behind the attack as robbery.

By the same token, I wonder what names or insults you would unleash on Christianity if I told you that the same thing happened in Akwa Ibom but this time it was Christian youths who attacked and burnt a church because the church's daily activity was interfering with their own criminal activities.

https://www.nairaland.com/3178357/photos-hoodlums-set-uyo-church-ablaze

Note no religion commits crime but ppl do - so stop this foolish bigotry.

And if you must know, United Nations (UNESCO) recently judged Islam as the most peaceful religion in the world.

https://www.nairaland.com/3213751/unesco-declares-islam-most-peaceful

No, it’s an example of “news satire”.

The website from which you have provided the link publishes satirical news. So they are generally not true and are only served to stir up humour. Till now I was aware of theunrealtimes and fakingnews, but wasn’t aware of this site called juntakareporter till I saw this question. It’s confusing because there is another “proper” news website called jantakareporter. So there’s the difference of the vowel after the initial “j”.

To answer the question, UNESCO haven’t declared anything on this front. And there is no reason why they should take any call on things like this.

PS: The takeaway here is, we should be careful of the source of information on the internet. People can write anything and share extensively. The onus of checking the veracity lies upon us.

Source: https://www.quora.com/Did-UNESCO-just-declare-Islam-as-the-most-peaceful-religion

From my experience and deductions, most Muslims have the spirit of hate and rancor in them.

Every Friday in SULEJA, roads are blocked during Jumat & tons of people pray on d road, nobody moves till de r done with their prayer... So many people r bittered & learned 2 liv with d routine all diz years.

[quote author=olajesu1234 post=47867780][/quote]Egbon mi, i nor be muslim, but i prefer the yoruba muslims. Hausa muslim nah big mistake to islam.

demolinka:
Una wey dey disturb me by 5:00am, nko? Anyways I don convert their noise to alarm

Abi o

Suprnov3r:
Really.... certificate of peace? Thats more like giving Hilter a certificate of zionism. All these UN organisations are trying to appease you guys to reduce the killings spree. No religion needs to be given a certificate they didn't earn except islam to prove they are peaceful


Muslums always trying to claim the victim status. Your brothers have slaughtered 1500 people in the last 30 days. The same mentality ruining the middle east is what is ruining Nigeria.

The reason is simple

Muhammed was a killer and he set bad examples
The koran has a lot of bad instructions
The only hope is that there are some peaceful muslims who dont follow mohanned or the Koran

Islam needs to be reformed. The evil passages needs to be removed and emphasis needs to be placed on those prophets in the koran who lived good lives.

Stop blaming christians and atheists and the rest of the world when they critisize muslims and islam. Only a fool will see fire and call it water. How can you expect people to keep shut when everyday round the world people do evil and they draw inspiration from the same sources and you want us to believe it is not connected to islam? It is as if you expect people to accept it without rationalisation or thinking. Even if na jazz, it cant work. The world is tired of islam. The west are just trying to appear nice because they have done some bad things in the past to certain people and they dont want to repeat their mistakes and you guys are expert at infiltrating communities. All the universities in UK are being paid huge billions so they can have islamic departments to brainwash the world on how peaceful islam is. Nobody is buying it. We just dey observe. Monkey

You are free to believe the hype against Islam and remain perpetually ignorant and entrapped by western media propaganda from the true realities on the ground.
Yes go on, dismiss the UNESCO findings as irrelevant, perhaps in your minds eye you believe it was being dominated and controlled by Muslims - and not Christians; and therefore ask why such a neutral body as the UN would make such declaration.
You could further ask why is Islam the fastest growing religion in the world even in the face of ongoing negative media propaganda.
In the same vein, you could also dispute another independent study which found the Bible more violent than Quran.
http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-compared-the-quran-and-the-bible-to-see-which-was-more-violent-2016-2

And no, we don't need to reform Islam as Muslims have had enough lessons from your mistakes; where Christianity has continuously been reviewed and reformed to the extent that it is no longer God's but a man made religion; where biblical values and teachings are being shamelessly rejected for modern ones, that today Christians are e.g. accepting gay priests and gay marriages in their churches, where the Pope was recently even quoted as preaching that Christians should apologise to homosexuals - lord almighty!

whotiedthegoat:
. Hahahahahahahahha irony
That was a terrible irony
So you couldn't note the sarcasm
With all the Isis shit?, bokoharam, Muslim brotherhood, Hezbollah, shabite, and all nonsensical Islamic groups?
You must be a zombie to belief such award

And you ignorantly believe that terrorists groups such as ISIS, Al -Qaeda etc were created by Muslims?

Stop believing the hype.

JackBaueress1:
If you were being disturbed during your jumaat service, why not complain to the church authorities first and if you're not satisfied report to the appropriate authorities before taking laws into your own hands?

"before taking laws into your own hands" or rather than taking laws into your own hands?

tibaonnet:
"before taking laws into your own hands" or rather than taking laws into your own hands?

The suspect with no fixed address, who also claimed to be a scavenger of scraps on refuse dumps at Suleja and its environs, added that shortly after the Juma’at prayers on the fateful day, he and other youths went to the church premises to attack the church over what he described as the effrontery of the congregation to disturb the peace of the mosque while prayers were going on.

“We went to the church to teach them a bitter lesson so that they will never disturb the peace of the mosque again, especially on a Friday when we are having a prayer. They have the whole of Sunday to themselves and we have never disturbed them from doing their own programmes,” he said.


[s]He pointed out that it was clear that the intent of the hoodlums was not religious but to steal, as the suspect was arrested with two microphones stolen from the church, while others went away with other items.[/s]

it is not religious but the suspected stated clearly that: “We went to the church to teach them a bitter lesson so that they will never disturb the peace of the mosque again, especially on a Friday when we are having a prayer. They have the whole of Sunday to themselves and we have never disturbed them from doing their own programmes,” he said.

The biggest Church and the biggest mosque in Egypt are opposit each other.
Never in history have they fought each other.
But here in Nigeria we see muslims thinking with their anus,
behaving like goats

you people are dammed anyway

Hes so unapologetic see as he fold arms. Release him and he would go for the kill no doubt

Ezenwammadu:
There is this small Hausa community living near my home.They are mostly suya sellers and labourers

Every 4 am they chanting one Islamic song like that.The most annoying thing is that their dog howls.

Irrespective of the noise nuisance they constitue against everybody in my street everyday not minding that they have been warned severally nobody has thought about demolishing or invading their

That is tolerance but the peacefully or pissfully religion goes about destroying churches and beheading women

Is not your fault............. wen your men dey rape and killed nobody attached it to religion violence.

proprince:
The biggest Church and the biggest mosque in Egypt are opposit each other.
Never in history have they fought each other.
But here in Nigeria we see muslims thinking with their anus,
behaving like goats

you people are dammed anyway

Same goes to you, rapist/ritualist.

ItsMeAboki:
Your verbal insult against the religion rather than the perpetrator is even worse than the physical attack on the church by this gang of boys.
At least they were directing their attack against the immediate cause of their anger (i.e. the church noise making) but you rather foolishly chose to instead condemn the entire religion of Islam as if the religion itself incited those boys to attack the church - even as the police had clearly identified the motive behind the attack as robbery.

By the same token, I wonder what names or insults you would unleash on Christianity if I told you that the same thing happened in Akwa Ibom but this time it was Christian youths who attacked and burnt a church because the church's daily activity was interfering with their own criminal activities.

https://www.nairaland.com/3178357/photos-hoodlums-set-uyo-church-ablaze

Note no religion commits crime but ppl do - so stop this foolish bigotry.

And if you must know, United Nations (UNESCO) recently judged Islam as the most peaceful religion in the world.

https://www.nairaland.com/3213751/unesco-declares-islam-most-peaceful

I'm not surprised at the bolded. After all, there are still people who are judging Buhari's government as the best thing that has ever happened to Nigeria. Ironies abound every where! Stupid people with stupid mindsets spewing stupid rankings which are being accepted and celebrated by stupid bigots abound everywhere! A religion whose adherents are the most violent in the world can never be anything near peaceful! There's no difference between Islam and Muslims. Without the Muslims, there won't be Islam. Christians are peaceful because Christianity teaches absolute peace and forgiveness from it's foundation. Every Christian child is brought up with the gospel of peace. Islam on the other hand teaches that every non Muslim is an infidel and therefore should be eliminated. That's a dastard course to violence; perpetual violence. So stop the myopic justification of evil simply because you are unfortunate to be born a Muslim and begin to call a spade a spade.

Suprnov3r:
Wrong.

And tolerance means the church should not practise for the sunday service?

Did they enter the mosque to sing? So because the north is mainly muslim christians should tolerantly stop practising their religions?

You keep asking for tolerance from christians while expecting zero from the Muslims. That is why they keep pushing the limits. Thats is why they are trying to expand sharia law in the house of assembly. Since christians must be tolerant while they are being oppressive

Tolerance must go both ways or else they will one day kill you because you refuse to think like them

Brother, i agree with you and remain on my position on "Respect and Tolerance" which is meant to go both ways.
For how long shall we keep witnessing incessant attacks based on religious differences.? Its simple,lack of Respect and Tolerance.

I have worked and lived in many parts of Northern Nigeria as a Southerner years back, covering remote rural areas as far as Sokoto and Borno.Katsina state , a relativelt small state inclusive.I remembered vividly well the only church i attended services at then was Christ Embassy in Bauchi state.However there was not a single report of attack against such assembly, why? They have a clear understanding of their environment and the indigenes.

I am not in anyway trying to absolve the Islamic radicals, vis-a-vis almajiris and their instigators, their radical tutors from blame, but im definitely saying attack such as this is preventable if we learn to respect ourselves and accept the inevitable that commonly emerges on fridays as a reality.

The particular incident happened on a Friday.....

Every wise non-muslims dwelling in North knows problems often brews after Jumat service.

Roads would be blocked as moslems would fill the mosque to the brim and so many others having their prayers right on the blocked highway.Please note, this is their community, their land.

If perhaps we have a system that checks and monitors the tyoe of teachings that goes on in various praying and worship centers in Nigeria (El Rufais Licensing of preachers comes to mind), i bet there will be less religious attacks across the northern spaces.

Fit2Rule:
I'm not surprised at the bolded. After all, there are still people who are judging Buhari's government as the best thing that has ever happened to Nigeria. Ironies abound every where! Stupid people with stupid mindsets spewing stupid rankings which are being accepted and celebrated by stupid bigots abound everywhere! A religion whose adherents are the most violent in the world can never be anything near peaceful! There's no difference between Islam and Muslims. Without the Muslims, there won't be Islam. Christians are peaceful because Christianity teaches absolute peace and forgiveness from it's foundation. Every Christian child is brought up with the gospel of peace. Islam on the other hand teaches that every non Muslim is an infidel and therefore should be eliminated. That's a dastard course to violence; perpetual violence. So stop the myopic justification of evil simply because you are unfortunate to be born a Muslim and begin to call a spade a spade.

If you believe so then you have not read the Bible; I'll advise you to please read the Old Testament and then come and tell that Christianity preaches peace.
As for the the New Testament, I have already mentioned that an independent study had proven it also to be more violent than the Quran (check my earlier post for the link).
However, you are free to remain ignorant.

Useless religion ...they have forgotten how they disturb from 4:00am to 5:00am every day...stu..pid people